/lit/ - Literature

>>10953886
C) I read because I like stories.

>>10953901
So, like a child?

>>10953886
A & B

>>10953886
>>10953901
All of these.

>>10953886
Exploring ''ideas'' can give aesthetic pleasure.

>>10953909
Yeah, like humans in general

A. I really don't care about prose.

Probably A if I had to choose between the two. Only a handful of authors have prose that I like; beyond that, it'd be foolish to seriously critique prose of another language, even if you're a pretty decent reader/speaker of it. The exchange of ideas (to excite, surprise, intrigue, and more) was basically the point of language, literature, etc., so it's not like A is unheard of.

>>10953901
fpbp, though

>>10953886
A and B. Like Borges.

Mostly A.

>>10953886

I read to feel, anon

Cause I'm a sentimentalist.

>>10953886
the first mixed with the second. simply reading for the second is pseud behavior and its unsurprising that this board is ensconced in that kind of performative intellectual hedonism. not surprising at all

B

I don't mind A if the ideas are really good, but a lot of the time they aren't (even among the classics) or at least they're old enough that the ideas have been absorbed by the culture and become common place so it's nothing revelatory.

>>10953909
fun things are fun

>>10956063
Dogs eat dog food.

>>10953886
I don't think there's a real difference, at least in the text itself.

>>10953886

A, only because I haven't explored all the ideas yet. At some point I will have, at which point I will have to either stop reading, or start relishing the way ideas are expressed rather than just the ideas themselves. But in that case, it would still be the ideas themselves that were primary; a well written book with bad ideas (bad in the sense of illogical or incoherent, not just wrong) would annoy me.

both

>>10953886
>>10953901

A combination of the three. Although I tend to get turned-off if the book's plot is just like some kind of giant strawman allegory.

>There are three points of view from which a writer can be considered: he may be considered as a storyteller, as a teacher, and as an enchanter. Amajor writer combines these three—storyteller, teacher,enchanter—but itis the enchanter in him that predominates and makes him a major writer.
>To the storyteller we turn for entertainment, for mental excitement of the simplest kind, for emotional participation, for the pleasure of traveling in some remote region in space or time. A slightly different though notnecessarily higher mind looks for the teacher in the writer. Propagandist,. moralist, prophet—this is the rising sequence. We may go to the teachernot only for moral education but also for direct knowledge, for simple facts.Alas, I have known people whose purpose in reading the French andRussian novelists was to learn something about life in gay Paree or in sadRussia. Finally, and above all, a great writer is always a great enchanter, andit is here that we come to the really exciting part when we try to grasp theindividual magic of his genius and to study the style, the imagery, the pattern of his novels or poems.
>The three facets of the great writer—magic, story, lesson—are prone to blend in one impression of unified and unique radiance, since the magic ofart may be present in the very bones of the story, in the very marrow ofthought. There are masterpieces of dry, limpid, organized thought whichprovoke in us an artistic quiver quite as strongly as a novel like MansfieldPark does or as any rich flow of Dickensian sensual imagery. It seems to methat a good formula to test the quality of a novel is, in the long run, amerging of the precision of poetry and the intuition of science. In order tobask in that magic a wise reader reads the book of genius not with his heart,not so much with his brain, but with his spine. It is there that occurs thetelltale tingle even though we must keep a little aloof, a little detachedwhen reading. Then with a pleasure which is both sensual and intellectualwe shall watch the artist build his castle of cards and watch the castle ofcards become a castle of beautiful steel and glass.

>>10953901

>>10956681
thank god he was born before asmr or he'd never had bothered with literature

>>10956681
very nice

>>10956681

Hard for the novelist to inform the reader anymore when there's so much easily-accessed information on the internet. On one hand, novels lose a bit of their value, but on the other, the writer themselves should have a richer understanding of the world.

>>10953886

A mostly but I'm always to concede that a book doesn't owe me that and find other reasons to enjoy it.

Usually I like to think about why the author might have written about what they did and why. I don't really understand people who trash a book before trying to think more about what it's doing. There's good ideas in any piece of writing. Well, not all. Certainly not erotic fan-fiction but you get what I mean.

>>10955094
this

>>10953886
Aesthetic pleasure. I read non-fiction to explore ideas.

>>10956681
>the magic o'fart

What did he mean by this?