/lit/ - Literature

>>10922859
I'm redpilled, so I prefer the literature of my white ancestors

>>10922859
Not Brazilian, Mexican in fact, but can you tell me where to start with Clarice Lispector?

>>10922859
>the way the story itself happens.
I meant "develops", sorry.

>>10922868
Felicidade Clandestina is a collection of short stories, it should give you a good idea of her "raw writing" style.

>>10922859
I feel that Luis Fernando Verissimo doesnt get enough love.

I mean he is far too good at comedy to be overlooked

>>10922930
What do you recommend from him, anon?

>>10922859
I'm reading Lavoura Arcaica by Raduan Nassar, it has been a great read. However, the writer left writing in the 70's and never got back on it. It's kind of surreal giving his immense talent, does anyone know why he did it, exactly?

Do you guys know the Vampiro de Curitiba?

There's no Brazilian writer as good as Borges.

Must suck always playing second fiddle to Argentina.

>>10922980
Have you ever heard of Machado?

>>10922984
No, and neither has anyone outside of Brazil.

>>10922859

Most recent BR literature I have read was Vidas Secas. Very good and very universal, I'd say even non-BRs would identify with it (I sure did in part and I'm not even familiar with the Northeast climate).

Honestly though, reading where I live is actually difficult for many reasons. I have a lot of anxiety with the possibility of home invasions and whenever I have to leave the house I am very suspicious of street beggars and other minor burglars who sleep close by on the near streets. This existential dread about assault (that will probably never be realized because it's actually not that violent of a neighborhood) is really crippling and I keep getting up to peek at the window and what not. I am very close to saving enough money to move to a place far from "downtown", and since most of my work is remote I'll more or less lock myself innawoods with internet so I can read in peace.

>>10922980
Guimarães Rosa is better than everything written in spanish, and you can't even discuss this, it's just the truth.

>>10923020
what do you recommend by him?

>>10923020
Have you even read Borges?

>>10922980
Machado is much better than him, no offense.

>>10923052
Machado the Spanish poet?? Better than Georgie???

>>10923020
He's good, but Borges is Borges.

>>10922936
His Ed Mort short stories are a good start, essentially a spoof on noir detective stories

I fucking hate that book from Helena Morley.

>>10923052
lol no

>>10922956
What of it? Is it any good?

Believe me or not, I'm a distant relative of Trevisan. He's like distant uncle. Only seen him once at a funeral. Looked like an asshole.

>>10922859
Brazilian /lit/fag reporting in.

Overall Cortela writes for the pleb. I recommend you to read Carlos Drummond de Andrade and Clarice Lispector if you're interested in brazilian authors.

You can read Machado de Assis as well. In my opinion Machado is the best brazilian author. He writes with maestry, using the best words for the best situations.

Sorry for my bad english.

>>10923057
>>10923076
Machado de Assis. But I can see that there is an Argie here who is adamant in his love for Borges (nothing wrong with that), so I'm not gonna extend on my opinion and an useless discussion.

>>10922868
"A hora da Estrela". I recommend 'cuz this is the most popular by far. In brazillian schools we read "A hora da Estrela" in literature class to know more about brazillian literature.

>>10923099
I'm not an Argie, you don't have to be Argentine to see how superior Borges is lol

>>10923097
what do you make of Guimarães Rosa?

>>10922859
im reading this. its cool so far.

>>10923193
didn't know they were brazilian.

>>10922859
Why is our lit so lacking in the universal department? All of it is just social critique, commentary, irony
It's all so tiring, so repetitive. I blame Machado; all br things read the same after him.

>>10923097
Pode escrever em português para mim, anon :3

>>10922936
Comédias da Vida Privada is comedy gold. Him and Fernando Sabino got me into reading with their everyday situation chronicles.

>>10923282
Do we even have anyone of notice in modern br lit? The most recent I can think is João Ubaldo Ribeiro and even him wrote his great stuff in the 80s/90s I think.

>>10923499
its sad really, brazilian literature is kinda obscure nowadays, but you still got people like Jô Soares and Paulo Lins pumping out books every once in a while

COME TO BRAZIL THREAD

>>10923560
Are Jô books any good? I supposed those were just pop literature shit.

>>10922984
It's shit.
Don't start with this lgdsjfubgsdu

>>10923560
No love for Dráuzio? Or is Estação Carandiru not recent enough

I wish I could feel about Machado the same way I feel about Mann or Márquez, both of which are able to go right through the language barrier. It feels like Brazilian literature is 50% beauty of the language and wise textual construction that only a native would perceive
I do like Alienista, though

>>10922859
>>>/int/

Does anyone have some underrated authors recommendations?

Pic related, just finished it, thought it was pretty good.

>>10923601
one of the first things you learn in university when studying literature is that there is no such thing as "pop literature shit", I used to have the same prejudice against his books and then I just read pic related than most of the so called "great" works literature.

>>10923095
Trevisan ainda esta vivo??

>>10924931
correction:

> I just read pic related and it turned out better than most of the so called "great" works literature.

keyboard putzed out there

>>10923637
just havent read it yet, its on the list tho

>>10922859
>Could we have a Brazilian thread?
Sure
>7-1

>>10924879
Hey anon, how good is it? I bought it for 2 reais recently, together with some 20 other BR books (whole thing was 5 reais). Is it just some regionalist bull? I feel most of BR lit is just that, with very few exceptions.

Also, to the anons that rec'd Lispector A Hora da Estrela: is that really her best work? I didn't reeeaaally enjoy it (not nearly as much as other people do), but I've got another book by her, Uma aprendizagem, did you guys read that one? Cheers.

>>10923020
Except for Quixote desu.
>>10922980
Borges is pretty shitty in all honesty.

>>10925027
This is lit you shitlord, go to /sp/

>>10923073
Me too. Tá prestando vestibular pra que?

>>10923184
I only read "Grande Sertão: Veredas", i can't tell if he's a good write in all his works but i must admit that "Grande Sertão" got my interest in the first pages. I'm from the brazilian northeast, i know well hows the climate and vegetation wich the book describes. I can guarantee you that he describes well hows the life on my region.

>>10923341
Achei que o OP fosse um gringo interessado na magnânima literatura brasileira. Falarei em português de agora em diante, anão.

>>10924879
Ariano Suassuna. I see most of the brazilian /lit/fags saying that Suassuna writes for the pleb but i discord. "Alto da Compadecida" is a great piece of art. The author is clearly influenced by Giovanni Boccaccio's Decameron. It's a great comedy. If you plan to read Suassuna you'll be able to laugh and know more about the northeast culture.

>>10925027
No brazilian give a fuck about that shit anymore, we accepted that footbal is just loss of time.

>>10925058

Hey, the beginning is kinda slow, but after a while the characters start to make sense... the final part is great, the best

UMA

DUAS

>>10926278
TRÊS

QUATRO

DELICIA

>>10923239
they are not. but i am. hahahaha. if you want some brazilian stuff to learn try "maketing existencial" from the ultimate based brazilian philosopher Luis felipe Pondé

I have no idea what to make of Tolentino.

Ultimately, I think he was all set for being one of the foremost poets of the century, but simply failed because he was too much of a romantic, too much of an abstractionist, too much of a Christian.

The man writes whole sonnets in which not ONE image can be seen and rhymes 'avestruz' with 'contraluz'. He writes poetry as if he were writing a (bad) continental philosophy treatise. He shouldn't make such mistakes. He knew so much better.

I sometimes suspect the whole idea about spending thirty years writing those books is a lie, and that he actually wrote them in one or two years, which would explain such bizarre mistakes.

''E a História é isso, um recobrar-se à contraluz,
uma aquarela de perfil, retroativa,
tendenciosa e surpreendente porque viva
ainda, ou talvez ainda mais, no avestruz


que liberta a cabeça do areal e conduz
o instante que passou à cena remissiva.
Nesse voltar-se atrás para existir eu pus,
como tu, minha fé também, que a sempre-viva


do amor também é história, Alexandria, e são
duas breves metades o que foi e o que é.
O palmeiral do ser vai secando de pé,


olhando para trás seus leques secos vão
resumindo a avenida atravessada, e até
que o tempo vire espaço e a vida é essa atenção.''

Beautiful verses, but where is the life?

>>10927294
>the whole idea about spending

I meant to say 'the whole idea that he spent'.

>>10924932
Ainda vive, mas não faz mais nada. Mal sai de casa.

Starting Macunaíma rn
what am I in for?

>>10922950
He said that he's done with Literature. He doesn't have nothing to write anymore. Something like that, I read in a interview.