/lit/ - Literature

the internet is for faggots

>he doesn't include checking on smartphones every 10 seconds in his scenes

>>10867620
>his writing includes baffling forced transpositions of texting and instant messaging and data-override metaphors and other tired dumb shit that has been tired and dumb since the 90s

>>10867620

I genuinely want to write a story about this but I have no idea how to go about it, stylistically. Like >>10867638 said, most of the shit that's been attempted hasn't worked very well.

>>10867620
By creating writing that doesn't depend on digital trends but still catches the attention of the modern reader and forces them to focus on the themes rather than any shiny gadgets or gimmicks.

you just need to include it in the same way before writers would write about a brief phone call or a letter. nothing more honestly. there’s no need to make it contrived

>>10867620

>>10867638
Dracula did shit like that and it's a great book.

>>10868360
that was straight forward letter shit

>>10868386
You're forgetting the shorthand, gramophone diary entries, and newspaper clippings.

>>10868404
it's all letters to me, the object has merely shifted

>>10868414
>it's all letters to me
I'm sorry that you're retarded.

>>10867624
Bless this post.

>>10867620
>his writing doesn't focus on a secluded failure who spends his days indulging in socially unaccepted hobbies and, from these hobbies, developing an esoteric worldview that he believes beyond a shadow of a doubt to be correct
Write what you know.

>>10867620
>his writing isn't entirely in greentext
why even come here if you're not going to use your experience in your writing?

>>10867731
Write about what it's like to live with the ball-and-chain called 4chan.

>>10867624
anon, i don't think you realize but you are on the internet right now. fucking stupid nigger lmao

People are missusing the internet. The internet is only supposed to be used as a tool and for shitposting.

>>10871051
He was joking, retard... gosh

>>10869944
fucking kek

>Nearing the table, William removed a large phone from his pocket and placed it next to his knife and fork. He sat down and began swiping through his phone for the duration of the meal, unaware of his wife and children's existence except for the sound of their open-mouthed chewing and occasional cheers as they beat a level of Candy Crush.

>>10871073
Well what was television supposed to be for? It certainly didn't turn out that way?

Here's how an internet-ADD-inspired text would go:

it was a cold and stormy- DING it's instagram. new story. i'm 4 seconds in and hit back because i really don't care for jane. better check twitter scroll scroll scroll not much of interest today OH wait this article sounds good. CLICK i skim the headline- don't need to see the rest but i'll forward it, no in fact, i'll share it to facebook that way i'll look like i'm smart reading FUCK YEAH SCIENCE, ha! someone's already liked my pos- fuck it's my mother. disappointment. i better take a selfie so at least some of the boys will give me a like. this is going to take 45 minutes- i'll have to shower-blowdry my hair-make up-pick an outfit- then try 50 different poses until i snap the right pic. NOT right now, i need to check my email. SPAM SPAM SPAM- fuck this, what's on reddit today?

thats not what i want

>>10871073
>The internet is only supposed to be used as a tool for shitposting.
FTFY

>>10871081
the anon you responded to was clearly joking too.. are you thick or something..? baka

Nathan Hill already did it.

>>10871104
>it was a cold and stormy- DING it's instagram. new story. i'm 4 seconds in and hit back because i really don't care for jane. better check twitter scroll scroll scroll not much of interest today OH wait this article sounds good. CLICK i skim the headline- don't need to see the rest but i'll forward it, no in fact, i'll share it to facebook that way i'll look like i'm smart reading FUCK YEAH SCIENCE, ha! someone's already liked my pos- fuck it's my mother. disappointment. i better take a selfie so at least some of the boys will give me a like. this is going to take 45 minutes- i'll have to shower-blowdry my hair-make up-pick an outfit- then try 50 different poses until i snap the right pic. NOT right now, i need to check my email. SPAM SPAM SPAM- fuck this, what's on reddit today?
That's actually how I browse the Internet.

>>10867620
There was no major literature about the printing press either.

>>10869944
So much this, but i want to read more like internet dialogues between these sophists

>>10871095
They would not even be sitting together at the table. They would all be snacking on junk food while lying on their beds or sitting on the couch.

>>10867620
Listen retard. The internet has ruined the dream. It has demystified life. For every thought, there’s a tweet. Solitude does not exist because some asshole or bitch is free to text you whenever they please. We communicate, but there’s nothing human in it. The internet is completely and utterly devoid of anything that lends itself to the magic of existence. God does not exist in the internet. It is a distraction from all that is life.

Literature, on the other hand, is committed to representing the experience of life, of being human, to others.
>B-but since the internet is a part of my life, shouldn’t it be represented in my novel?
No. Fucking air ventilation systems are a part of your life too, but nobody cares or wants to read about it. It does nothing to elucidate the human experience. It’s an inhuman experience really, faceless and nameless users posting memes, arguing, and ordering shit they don’t need on websites they never asked for. Who the fuck wants to read about that?

The internet was a mistake. I hope it gets shut down and we can foget it ever happened.

>>10872294
way to hyperbolize everything, fag

How many novels are about telegraphs again?

>>10872321
Great argument

>>10872294
To me, the internet is the dream. It gives me life. Without it, I'm faced with the horrifying lonesomeness and bleakness of my existence.

>>10872385
It does, in a more encompassing way, what literature aspires to do. Truly the greatest work ever written.

>>10872294
I love this rant, specifically
>For every thought, there’s a tweet. Solitude does not exist because some asshole or bitch is free to text you whenever they please
But I disagree that all-in-all it's a mistake.

>>10872452
no one is forcing you to use twitter or be online anywhere

>>10872294
This post reads like the authors true feelings on the matter were falsely exaggerated in order to provoke a response. Despite that I kind of agree, but Pandora's box is already open, and there is no way that everyone would consent to getting rid of something so useful as instant communication. That common Star Trek plot of an enlightened advanced civilization voluntarily giving up technology is completely ridiculous.

>>10871104
This style could actually be quite funny if it was just a short story or somthing

>>10871104
Was pic related meant to be the cure for this kind of ADD?

>>10867624
i agree wholeheartedly

>>10872294
I unironically agree with this, except for the internet being a mistake. The internet wasn't a mistake, giving normies easy access to it was the mistake.

>>10872294
>Fucking air ventilation systems are a part of your life too, but nobody cares or wants to read about it.
>Imblying.

>>10872510
It's not impossible, we did effectively give up on nuclear weapons.

>>10872294
fuck you, the internet is super fun

>>10872294
>The internet has ruined the dream. It has demystified life. For every thought, there’s a tweet.
How is this not worth talking about you absolute retard?

>>10868414
> the object has merely shifted
Away from letters

>>10871203
that anon you responded to was also joking, are you a thick skulled mongolodian retard by any chance?

>>10874326
THEN WHO WAS PHONE?

>not having emojis
>not having transvestite characters
>not having a gay wedding scene
>not having the word "Google"

If your writings don't have all four of these now a days you will never be the next big writer

>>10874465
I should have typed who was joke
I should have typed who was joke
I should have typed who was joke
I've ruined everything.

>>10874509
nah it's fine, simple ironic memes don't lend themselves to modification

now you fucked up tho, this post is cringe

>>10874588
>still using cringe in current year
Maybe you're right, but I'm going to wait for a second opinion. For all I know your definition of cringe means slightly unfunny.

>>10874710
i was just kidding anon, are ya thick?

>>10874732
cringe. I'm laughing at your stupidity because I was kidding too.

>>10874795
i was just joking there too, my dude.. are you having problems following the conversation or smth?

>>10872294
Web 2.0 is certainly one of the reasons the internet has grown into an abomination, people who browse social media are dooming themselves.

>>10874870
But if your second post was a joke then your first post wasn't a joke, therefore this post must be a joke, because both posts cannot simultaneously be jokes, meaning that your second post was in fact sincere.

>>10874916
anon i don't think that's how logic works.. ya dummy

>>10871051
>riffs off the joke and makes it unfunny
>anime
like clockwork

>>10875011
This is an anime website and no one is forcing you to stay here

>>10872294
>God does not exist in the internet.
We must dissent.

>>10872385
Yes but if the Internet didn't exist you might channel those feelings into a literary masterpiece.

>>10868360
wtf i hate Dracula now

>>10872294
>Solitude does not exist because some bitch is free to text you whenever they please
>The internet is devoid of the magic of existence
FUCKING NORMIES WHY DO THEY COME HERE GET THE FUCK OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>10875040
>muh anime website
this is /sp/ country la

>>10872893
I doubt it was "meant" to be the cure for anything. My reading of PK was that Wallace was praising those who could work through boredom (and, of course, he wanted to show off with his one-sided dialogue, huge footnotes, and odd vocabulary).

>>10876002
What are you talking about? Stop abusing the word normie, you’re just larping and we all know it

>>10873076
Go read a jonathan safran Foer book or something, you normie fuck

>>10876064
if you don't see the magic of the internet, and if you have "bitches" texting you, and you have the gall to complain about it as if it's something unavoidable then you're a complete and utter normie

. . .

>>10867620
if the story is set in present day, I don't see a problem mentioning the Internet, but I wouldn't get to bogged down in it--if you are trying to write something that will age well and be timeless, anyways. I've read books from the early 2000s that utilize IM and it's really cringe

>>10868414
texts are letters too

>>10871051
>weebshitter completely misses the point to post a smug animu grill
like pottery

Why haven't you wrote your magnum opus novel about a fat, loveless, imageboard browsing NEET yet, /lit/?

>>10877780
What point is there to miss in that post?

>>10877796
the joke maybe?

>>10877801
The joke being? Spell it out for me.

>>10877811
saying the internet is for faggots on the internet as an pretext for not including the internet in the writing without any other explanation
jesus christ I can't believe I just spoonfed you a fucking joke, get checked for brain damage

But I am, I aim to interweave the onset of the internet with the search for the first Quantum computer laced with conspiracy and dark web antics.

>>10876097
There’s nothing, absolutely NOTHING, more normified than finding the internet magic.

>>10877792
I'm unironically working on it.

>>10877792
>he hasn't read the distinguished classic, "my diary desu" by Anon

>>10877792
Because I'm too busy posting on 4chan. I hate being away from the site when I have active posts cause I'm worried someone will reply to me and I won't get a chance to respond. I know it doesn't really matter, but it still distresses me, and I don't want to let anybody down. So I keep clicking and scrolling, scrolling, scrolling... and then I make another post.

>>10872294
this but unironically

I'm surprised we are not seeing a big anti-internet movement yet, something like vegetarianism I don't know.

Things are going to get worse btw.

>>10872294
texting and facebook and snapchat and shit are prime examples of technology induced oversocialisation, Ted was right

>tfw rationalize my internet use as being acceptable because I need to be in touch with contemporary life to write but I never write because I spend too much time online

>>10869944
Huysmans wrote A Rebours over 100 years ago

>>10871678
poor analogy

>no one on this board has read Amygdalatropolis

>>10878431
>Iktf