/lit/ - Literature

Toni Morrison
75

Stephen King
200

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Rupi Kaur
198

James Joyce
0

Albert Einstein
1000

Adolf Hitler
1488

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Keith Cozart
300

Pynchon
49

i dont read books
134

>>10844416
Leonidas
300

Patrick Rothfuss
162

Jordan B Peterson
99

>>10844521
kek

Donald Trump (Art of the Deal)
Huge

>>10844416
Jordan Peterson
114

>>10844416
I have an IQ of 127 apparently. This is pretty average for a college graduate yeah?

>>10844416
Pynchon
142

>>10844432
Underrated post.

>>10844416
Terry Pratchett
Enough IQ

>>10844544
Yeah pretty much. They say required for college is around 115, tho idk who came up with it.

>>10844416
Borges
113

>>10844416
Bolaño
2666

>160

Op pls gib me sum IQ.

>>10844416
Will Durant. 131.

>>10844416
>You're
Is this a meme?

>Murakami
>1Q84

Borges
Tested as 135

IQ is meaningless though. We still haven't discovered an accurate way to measure human intelligence yet.

>>10844603
this is /lit/. Do you have to ask?

>IQ is meaningless though. We still haven't discovered an accurate way to measure human intelligence yet.
>Tested as 135
Man are you sure that this is your IQ? Didn't you just swap your IQ with your weight by accident?

>>10844656
t. IQ in 120

>>10844645
IQ correlates very strongly to a large suite of desirable mental traits though, even if it doesn’t test them directly. The things IQ does test directly are extremely important to any demanding pursuit, so much so that we’ve found pretty firm IQ cutoffs to succeed at various professions.

Of course you wouldn’t use IQ to determine someone’s value as a person but it’s far from meaningless just because it’s possible to waste potential.

>>10844656

>thinking that putting shapes in order means you're a genius and even remotely near the level of intellect as people like Da Vinci and Werner von Braun

Sure, this might measure some level of problem solving, logical thinking and cognitive ability.
But what about all of the outliers?
What if there some retard Rain Man guy out there who couldn't count past 5, but what was able to compose the most powerful moving music ever written, on the same level as Beethoven? Would you consider this man to not be a genius, just because he doesn't fit your arbitrary model of what a genius should be?

>>10844678
>outliers exist so the data is worthless!
You clearly have no idea about the state of psychometrics specifically or rudimentary experimental methods generally.

>>10844678
that stupid shit isn’t real

>>10844678
Well I am not saying that my friend, I was just trying to make a joke. Also how many people like Rain Man are there? Almost all the time the results of IQ tests are very accurate, you cannot dissmis them just because they can't be applied to certain individuals, can you?

>>10844416
Cao Xueqin
Don't know

>>10844416
Céline
130

>PKD
>why would I remember my IQ when it’s not in the top 5% of score results

>>10844668
This is what I hate about people who put this much trust in psychology, you consider correlation to be something much greater than it is

>>10844744
>you consider correlation to be something much greater than it is
Except if high vs low IQ's correlate enough with outcomes you can predict ad infinitum then it is a sound way to predict outcomes of individuals. That doesn't mean IQ is completely sound , but it does matter.

Tolkien
121

kafka
130

>>10844744
I think you’re way too simplistic a thinker to deal with the kind of data we have and instead have staked our a position you think is safe because it refuses to inspect challenging information but is instead just ignorant and dated.

Tolkien or Homer
145

>>10844645

It's not meaningless

>>10844772
>correlate enough
That's where it falls apart. Every study I've been linked to doesn't show anything more than a vague correlation. It's never proportional or anything along those lines which is why I still don't think IQ is anything more than a test designed to determine if a child is retarded (and loosely determine intelligence in adults).

>>10844782
>the kind of dota we have
The data psychologists exaggerate the importance of so they can pretend their field is actually meaningful

>>10844800
>loosely determine intelligence in adults
That is the entire point of the IQ scale you fucking idiot. This whole argument is just you erroneously claiming that psychologists use IQ in some other way and getting mad about it.

>>10844833
If you admit that it only loosely determines intelligence then why are you defending it all? The ability to solve sudokus also loosely determines intelligence but I don't think anyone believes it should be considered as the standard way of doing so.

>>10844889
because the avg iq of people majoring in the most cognitively strennuous fields is always higher than slightly less rigorous fields and this holds all the way down to early childhood education majors who have an avg iq of like 98.

Math and Physics are the hardest subjects humans study besides philosophy, CS and Eng. The 3 highest iq’s per manor are Math, Physics and Philosophy who would have fucking thought? People with higher iq have higher edu attainment, higher test scores, higher information retention, faster reflex response, faster eye movement, more accurate vision and color discernment, they do well across all their subjects and tend to be physiognomically distinguishable from stupid people as well. you can hide but an AI will probably soon predict your IQ from reading your face, eyes, proportions, scanning your dna

>>10844898
Judging by your post your IQ is no higher than 80, /pol/tard.

>>10844914
dumb nigger cattle

>>10844915
verified

>>10844898
And the case is likely true for their ability to solve sudokus, it doesn't actually tell us anything meaningful about intelligence.

>>10844918
do you have long abstract discourse with your cat regularly anon?
>>10844921
physics and mathematics are the two most important, least accessible fields of human knowledge. any fucking midwit can become an expert at completing sudoku puzzles, and i guarantee the highest iq humans would beat most would-be masters of that skill. you’re missing the point, there is an extremely strong correlation between higher iq and higher cognitive function. someone who scores 100 will not write a single useful paper in theoretical physics, a person with 160 iq is almost guaranteed to be a chess player, physicist or mathematician. why? can you explain this for me anon?

>>10844924
>mathematics
>not accessible
I'll bet you think vectors are complicated.

>>10844924
>any fucking midwit can become an expert ay completing sudoku puzzles
Same goes for IQ tests
For someone who fantasises about the purer forms of knowledge I'm surprised you put your faith into a shoehorned intelligence test that wasn't even supposed to be one when it was first conceived.

>>10844926
laughable go back to fawning over your social programs and higher moral plateaus
>>10844936
then why do people who score below ~120 iq show significantly less aptitude for the hardest subjects like nuclear physics and theoretical maths? are sudoku masters as intelligent as the top 3 physics students at Stanford who all score above 130 on their iq tests? why are business majors not interested in math very much? why do women go into biology but not so much physics?

>>10844946
Contain your autism. Psychometrics doesn't even have a proper definition of intelligence yet pretends to be able to measure it. Can you really still believe IQ is a proper way of measuring intelligence despite this?

>>10844800
Send the studies!

145
Sigmund Freud

>>10844957
What would you suggest as replacement of IQ anon?

>>10844432
Bang bang

>>10844982
Accepting that we don't understand enough about the brain and mind yet to
Psychometrics is like the modern day alchemy.

Faulkner
I don't know my IQ

>>10844982
But why do you need any psychometrics to begin with? To show off your calculated intelligence? But that's the definition of being a pseud. Instead of measuring you own intelligence you could actually do something that will illustrate your wit to others, like writing a good book.

>>10844992
Well I am interested in potential ability. But yeah we can just go with how succesful of a thinker I am that smart I am.

>>10844491
Kek

>>10844995
Potentiality doesn't matter until it is actualized.
Natural oil is useless until it is turned to gasoline.

>>10844992
And I am not that interested in individual cognitive ability, I am more interested in ability of certain collectives.

130
kafka

same like the other anon above

>>10845005
And to make some racist conclusions, amirite?

>>10844982
One adjusting for historical oppression and economic standard of living.

>>10845008
Yeah man I am totally rayciiiist, all I do my free time is that I look at skull shape of black guy and determine that he is a natural rapist.

>>10845021
cewl
I hope you'll find out one day that psychometrics inherits the same emthodologic fallacy as statistics. They are just numbers that have little in common with reality.

>>10845028
>Some random anon and his "studies" debunked entire field of psychometrics.

>>10845034
Pfft, that's not just me. IQ tests have been a target of criticism since they appeared.

>>10844921
What do you think intelligence is other than the ability to solve problems? You seem to be defining it as the ability to do literally anything and pronouncing the ability to solve problems as meaningless because there are things one can do besides solve problems.

>>10845041
Yeah criticisms not total denial of their validity.

>>10845028
>separating statistics from any field of science
If you think “statistics” is fundamentally worthless then it’s not just psychometrics you’d have to dismiss.

>>10845051
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient#Criticism_and_views
>>10845052
Statistics isn't entirely worthless but it's applicability is sufficiently limited. Statistic data is never enough to make vaild conclusions.

>>10845046
Whose problems?

>>10845059
>Stephen Jay Gould
>Legit criticism

>>10845059
>statistical data
>validity as a Boolean
Yikes. Please get educated

>>10845059
>Stephen J Gould
Oh come on now , don't do this. This is like someone citing Rushtom

Verne
80
20000 when I'm on Adderall

Kanye West (Glow in the Dark)
300 (like the Romans)

James Joyce
A lot

>>10844416
>160
Aren't people with such high IQS put onto a list or record? I understand it's clear bait, but I'm just curious.

>>10844416
Author Ernest Hemingway
IQ: 115
Testosterone: 923

>>10844544
>>10844592
What? The average IQ is 100 at most, and colleges don't test for IQ scores.

>>10845142
It is estimated IQ needed to succesfully finish a college.

>>10845142
And 100 is not average of college student its average of society.

>>10844416
Jk rolling

52

>>10844416
Douglas adams
42

>>10845013
I am horrified that this probably isn't ironic.
Thinking niggers have any value should lower IQ score significantly

>>10845239
Assuming that anon typing this isnt nigger himself.

>>10845059
>but it is applicability
>making a 3rd grade mistake in a discussion about intelligence
pretty much an auto-loss tbhfam

patrick rhotfuss
92

>>10844957
Read IQ in the Meritocracy

Karl Marx
17

>>10844416
>Nescio
>I don't know

Gaddis.

127-142 (different scores at different points)

the Pharisees
90

>>10844416
Flaubert and Kafka
135 by wechsler
Also, IQ works well for populations, less so for individuals, but is still useful

>>10845391
this

Thomas Pynchon
71

>>10845095
Underrated.

>>10845365
Underrated


Bertrand Russell
~103

>>10844432
Rip fredo

Beckett.

My IQ is roughly 155 - on the Mensa home (pencil & paper) test. I'm not sure how reliable it is compared to, say, the WAIS.

Akira Toriyama
Over 9000

>>10845365
kek

Adolf Hitler
6,000,000

Bret Easton Ellis
less than zero

pynchon

never measured but i estimate it's around 250

>>10844416
Bernard Cornwell
Around 120-127 as I recall.

>>10845142
THe lower part of the bell curve falls out as schooling progresses

>>10844982
number of consecutive days you tripped on LSD

>>10844416
Brandon Sanderson.
8

>>10844416
>/mu/ thread
fuck off and never come back

is /v/ not working for anyone else

>>10845059
>wikipedia for your criticism

>>10844432
O bla

129
William Gibson (fiction)
Alfred North Whitehead (nonfic)

100
Ernest Hemmingway

Camus
153

>>10846723
Yeah, it's dead, but why would you even want to go to that shithole in the first place.

Stirner
IQ is a spook

>>10844416
>>10844416
>I'm gonna make a thread on /lit/
>*You're* IQ
>160
>DFW, literally the king of trying hard to appear smart.
>The longer the book, the better.
>Approve of me

>>10846854
are you being ironic yourself?
it's a joke thread

iq tests are for detecting retardation in children
kinda like this thread

cavalieri
105 iirc

>>10846886
brainlet detected

>>10846926
He has a 105 IQ so it goes without saying that he's a brainlet.

>>10846657
>>10846652
>>10846637
all good posts

>>10846881
Are YOU being ironic?

>>10846957
senpai didn't notice mine :/

>>10846977
are you? can't you see a joke when you see it

>>10844416
OP
-12

>my diary desu

>>10845124
good to see someone else here with High-T

>>10847245
this doesnt even make sense

Jules Verne
120

>>10845142
>and colleges don't test for IQ scores.
m8, what do you think your grades, SAT-test and all that is?

Steve from smash mouth
139

>>10847321
He thinks those things don't correlate to IQ scores to a significant degree because he had never in his life given the topic a moment of thought or research before he saw this thread.

>>10844645
>We still haven't discovered an accurate way to measure human intelligence yet

How about number of Rick and Morty episodes watched

Philosophy:
>Aristotle
Literature:
>Goethe
My IQ is 131, but Im certainly dumber than my IQ would suggest

Books are for nerds
137

>>10847663
you still squeezed a kek out of that stale meme, nice

Tappei Nagatsuki

135

myself
infinite

(i'm god btw)

The Voynich Manuscript

-1/12

>>10845142
Your IQ just got lowered by 10, my friend.

>>10844416
James Joyce
135

anon
200

>>10845187
>college students have higher than average IQ
You're still in high school, aren't you?

Homer
99

>>10844416
I just purchased infinite jest. Never read Wallace before
> Mfw

>>10847663
Negative or positive correlation though?

>>10844416
I hate this board so much but I can't stop coming back on it.

your least favorite author
infinity

>>10844416
Rowling
300

>>10847399
you’re right but the average college graduates iq is probably much closer to 105-110 than 115-120 anon, just talk with most people who have degrees for a few minutes its really obvious they’re not above 1 SD

>>10844416
Evgeny Zamyatin
503

Kerouac
Druggie%

Gabe Newell
2

>>10847834
YLVTL

>>10844416
sam harrison but he's basically tied with Taleb

100+1SD(15)=115

Rand
If I recall correctly, my IQ was somewhere in the 250-275 range last time I checked.

Rand
If I recall correctly, my IQ was somewhere in the 250-275 range last time I checked.

>>10847663
To be fair Rick and Morty is very clever and conceptual just like Borges. You may be onto something.

Antoine de Saint-Exupéry and Hergé
141

Guillermo Del Toro and Rick and Morty

2T5444V/5544441

marcel proust

83

>>10844598
Kek

>>10844521
Same. My IQ is 90 though

>>10845142
Average college graduate has an IQ of 125-130 apparently

Stanislaw Lem
Something like 90 probably lol

>>10845213
kek

Jordie Peteson
24

me
0א

>>10850359
I think that's outdated. Once upon a time the average IQ of a Harvard student was 125 but as the best schools get harder to get into and more degrees become available on the low end the average of IQ of people with any bachelors degree has plummeted while the average IQ of graduates from elite universities has skyrocketed to the point that the average IQ of a present-day Harvard grad is in the neighborhood of 140 these days while the average for any college grad is closer to 110.

>>10845142
t. high schooler