/lit/ - Literature

>>10815326
Undertale isn't literature though, retard.

>New sincerity
The past two centuries were a mistake

stop trying to force a literature movement

no one gives a shit about anything hedonism runs rampant. we are 10 years from collapsing back into huts and spear fishing

>>10815326
Your argument is the same as saying /lit/ should be used for the discussion of paintings because there was a modernist movement painting. Just because there was a New Sincerity movement in literature doesn't make it valid to discuss New Sincerity in relation to non-/lit/ topics. You do realize art movements aren't by confined to one medium?

>>10815438
Can't wait! Anyway it will more likely be sprawling slums and reheating chicken from the KFC dumpster.

>metanarratives
>sincere

>>10815402
>literary analysis cannot be applied to an arguable frontrunner of a primarily literary movement which makes reference to, is influenced by, and interacts with literary works and themes, and of which large portions could be made into literary format without significant loss of artistic fidelity.


>>10815438
I'm just trying to tie you up intellectually so the lack of energy expenditure towards becoming healthy impacts your ability to be aware of your surroundings in the coming apocalypse, after which I will sneak up from behind you and hit you in the head with a rock and steal your supplies and printed DFW memes.

>>10815444
If I thought the painting in question conveyed significantly complex and artistically valid information best understood in literary complex, then yes.
Moreover, this board does frequently discuss other forms of art in this way, and even less complex discussions i.e. >>10812713 are permitted.

>>10815476
*best understood in a literary context

I blame an imbalance of humors

>>10815461

absolutely undertale is only sincere on the surface. while it plays with themes such as "friendship and vulnerability is important", it does so under a smug self-awareness that it already knows those things already. the game is a solitary experience in which you're sitting there, alone, preaching those values into the thin air.

you're not believing in the power of friendship with undertale, you're scolding the outside world for not behaving as a better friend to you. when you elect to save a monster instead of killing it, you do so thinking "all of those guys are killing monsters, but me, i'm different (i was always different), i'll befriend you. if only other people were as good of friends as i am"

shit is the exact opposite of sincere. there is no market for sincerity, if anything we are in the New Fake Sincerity era, in which people are faking being sincere with no self awareness whatsoever

>>10815326
wtf is undertale

>>10815444

This is exactly what I want /lit/ to be. Intellectual discussion of pop culture including philosophy. Why can't that be a thing?

undertale is gay
you're a fag

>>10815518
because that's not what it is
if you want to discuss things like that go to /tv/ or /co/ or /v/ or /his/ or /pol/ or any of the other massively brainlet-infested shitholes on this website

>>10815508

I still love how the enemies from Undertale reflect the exact types of people you encounter everyday on 4chan. People who come to this website do so to talk to others but in the process they put on a hardened mask to fit into the culture. I don't care how many insults people throw others' ways, you're all pussycats underneath. The game lacks depth but it seems to resoundingly 'get' this type of Internet sub-culture (for lack of a better phrase).

>>10815508
>the game has these qualities because I have assigned them to it

>>10815526

That's a terrible piece of advice

>>10815559

>this book has these qualities because I have assigned them to it

What's the difference?

>>10815326
Because if it isn't about Jordan Peterson or John Green, the mods don't want it on this board.

>>10815559

no this is my examination of how other people interpreted it. i fell for the pink pussy too, played it and was like "Wow that was great im jazzed on fucking friendship." then i looked around at other people and became really depressed at how much of a shallow husk i am

>>10815326
DFW is garbage. The only thing sad about his suicide is that it didn't happen before he started writing. He's a fucking hack, always rehashing the same shitty feel-good gimmick. You should be ashamed for liking anything written by him. He never had talent, never had genius, and he killed himself because he knew it and he realized he was not going to be able to trick people into thinking he was any good. His works are written for angsty white kids from the suburbs who think their parents didn't love them enough, and even for this mediocre audience, he should still appear as what he always was : devoid of any talent.

>>10815584
>the pink pussy

yo man what

>>10815658

for the temptation, you know, the indulgence. the mental indulgence

>>10815704
I thought you talking about the cat

But then you don't believe that one could feel sincerely different about being kind to others after playing the game?

>>10815431
THIS THIS THIS
I want to go back...

>>10815508
>>10815584
A much better game about friendship is the visual novel Little Busters.

>>10815476
>still didn't disprove that "Undertale isn't literature"
Where you did you learn your rhetoric skills? Tumblr?

>>10815728
>reeeeddit

>>10815758
ouch, I don't go to reddit..

>>10815713

you could use this as some kinda theoretical scripture to reinforce your desire to be kinder because it will make you mentally feel superior about how kind you are, and you will want to live up to your own expectations for yourself

it doesn't suddenly become New Sincere though. it's full of the same cynicism, irony. it's possible if we get more of this fake trash guilting us into caring, we might actually one day give a fuck

So now I wonder, have I been arguing with the mod who was apparently butthurt enough to ban me for the first thread after this one got some replies?

>>10815843
>>10815795
>>10815732
>>10815728
>>10815713
>>10815704
>>10815584
>>10815576
>>10815560
>>10815568
>>10815559
>>10815542
>>10815526
>>10815518
>>10815508
>>10815476
>>10815452
>>10815444
>>10815431

>>10815843
>>10815843
ha enjoy your ban evasion ban u useless bum

I don't think moot would've allowed people of such low character to have such middling power.
But hey, you get what you pay for.

>>10815854
Working around bans is trivially easy

>>10815518
>This is exactly what I want /lit/ to be. Intellectual discussion of pop culture
holy fuck i can't imagine a worse fate

>>10815518
I hope people aren't confusing you for me, the illustrious and well read OP.

Because discussing art goes on /his/ and videogames on /v/.

>>10815876
A casual perusal of the shitposting in this board would indicate otherwise