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>>10812254

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDGWr8kMBk8

>>10812254
I can't think of any one guy to do it, but I have assorted bits and pieces.

Chomsky is extremely opinionated and kind of an ass to people that question him, so it should 't be hard to find instances of him being in the wrong.

Here is something that stuck with me:

http://www.monbiot.com/2012/05/21/2181/

The first political theorist I recommend to everyone is James Burnham. "The Managerial Revolution" and "The Machiavellians" are both towering works of political theory, and they have much to say to rightists and leftists alike.

If you're looking for a more full-throated rebuttal of Chomsky's brand of leftism, F.A. Hayek's "Road to Serfdom" is a classic text skeptical of collectivism.

Frankly, most of the interesting right-wing writing is happening in serial form on the internet these days, though. Intellectual energy abounds on the dissident right, and getting ensconced in that world for a while will definitely be a palate cleanser after heavy doses of Noam.

>>10812254

Some antidotes to the Chomsky world-view:

>Burke "Reflections on the Revolution in France"
>Hayek "The Road To Serfdom"
>Hazlitt "Economics In One Lesson"
>Solzhenitsyn "Gulag Archipelago"
>Jung Chang "Wild Swans"
>W.G.Simpson "Which Way Western Man?"
>Leszek Kołakowski "Main Currents Of Marxism"

The last is the intellectual heavyweight; it's not easy going though.

>>10812614
>If you're looking for a more full-throated rebuttal of Chomsky's brand of leftism, F.A. Hayek's "Road to Serfdom" is a classic text skeptical of collectivism.

But Chomsky is a libertarian and an anti-collectivist

>>10812694
Shh, don't tell them.

No one OP, he is right.
People who have tried to argue with him get demolished.
Accept it and embrace anarcho syndicalism + libertarian socialism.

>>10812715
He has never properly articulated how an anarcho-syndicalist society would look like or how it can be achieved. Just like most radical leftists, he is better at criticizing the current system than presenting any concrete alternative to it.

>>10812715
honhonhon

>>10812694
Except he lends his support to strong-men like Chavez and is part of a syndicalist internationale.

>>10812254
https://samharris.org/the-limits-of-discourse/

>>10812759
Go back to /r/badphilosophy

>>10812726
that's because anarcho-syndicalist is not a political model, is a political tactic of the left, the political tactic of taking responsibility for nothing and asking for everything, but taken to even more autistic heights

>>10812602
monbiot is an idiot though

>read chomsky
>feel like 1984
>bitch please

take the real redpill

>>10812726
>>10812767
It will look something like the Paris Commune

>>10813072
what did the Paris Commune produce to eat?

>>10813127
What the ... so you have never heard about it until this thread?

>>10813167
answer the question, how did they feed themselves except for leeching from the countryside?

>>10812254
The Anti-Chomsky Reader

>>10812665
>Chomsky
>Marxist
wew

>>10813193
>David Horowitz
i don't hate the guy, but can he write anything? he seemed like a meme on the theory side on any interview i saw him and too emotionally hurt by the left

>>10813202
>too emotionally hurt by the left
the panthers murdered a friend of his so yeah desu.

>>10813184
They didn't need to leech from anyone because the Commune was created in preparation for war you idiot. Nobody was thinking about food and shit when it was still assembling government and industry before they got invaded by the French Army. Maybe if they won, you would have an answer to your stupid question

>>10813283
>the Commune was created in preparation for war
>Nobody was thinking about food

>>10813283
>Nobody was thinking about food and shit when it was still assembling government and industry
so it was just a meme at that point, i get it

>>10813300
But their attempts to reorganize society in those 3 months is the practice or prototype for anarcho-syndicalism.

Also Paris leeches off the countryside like every other capital city, Commune or not

>be me
>Uber right wing
>Admire Chomsky
I guess not s lot of people realize this , but anti-capitalist sentiments in the right have deep syndicalist roots in them.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_syndicalism

>>10812254
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there you go

>>10813990
>Newfag forgets about the word filter and has deep problems with Reddit spacing
You have to go back

>>10813990
kys

>>10814035
No

>>10813283
>we're going to be sieged, we have no time to worry about food

>>10812665
It's actually easier to penetrate than Marx's Capital - which isn't really worth the full read. There wouldn't be so many revisionist offshots of Marxism if the original held up well.

>>10812727
watch the video again

>>10813986
>uber right wing
>still using the left/right paradigm

No wonder you admire Chomsky, you fag.

>>10816677
>we don't exist
>we're nazbol
>we're everything
>we're democratic and left economic and rw
>haha we stole it
you should all count to 3 and strangle each other

>>10812254
there's no counter to chomsky apart from sociopath autists who think everything is machine. If it weren't for Chomsky your entire society would be a totalitarian Skinner box, you a machine to be programmed, and if you were ever upset about anything that would be a defect in you to be corrected, not a valid criticism to be considered by authority.

>>10812254
>Counterweight to Chomsky
a lobotomy

Was watching some of his lectures from the '80s and realized old boy just seems much more out of it nowadays. A couple decades of shaking your fist but ultimately having no effect on society will do that to you.

>>10816954
working with/among the DoD and MIT will do that to your brain

>>10816954
i think as he gets close to death he's finally maturing, i heard some talk he gave last year where he was talking like "tha'ts just how the world works" or something, like he finally realizes being angsty about the world is dumb

also now that he's losing his filter due to senility it was fun to hear him say how he always hated catholics until he met some communist catholics in el-salvador or something lol

>>10816795

How is this already not the case?

>>10816954
He's an intellectual, not a revolutionary. I do think he's laid down some excellent groundwork that future generations might pick up on.

In fact, given the age we're living in, I wouldn't be surprised if it's around the corner. (Not necessarily violent revolution btw)

The best thing is to focus on his weaker work, since that's what would usually make someone question whether he's all-knowing. His early discussions of libertarian anarchism are like this. They're the product of a different time, and thing he clearly has the least confidence in. He only ever speaks about it in a very vague way and at this point appears to have almost completely stopped in favor of more concrete criticisms of policy and discussion of history. When it comes to ideology, he stops seeming so authoritative. Once the foundation of his thought appears weak, then you might start to see more cracks elsewhere.

>>10812254


Chomsky is trash.

>>10817036
this is a trash comment, kys

>>10812726
because he is an anarchist and isn't going to tell people how to live or order their lives!
he says it will have to be worked out as you go
he does point to existing possibilities like the recovered factory movement and mondragon

>>10812254
>antidote to Chomsky
Any author, really. He's garbage. Start with Sapir.

>>10812254
james petras