/lit/ - Literature

>>10789567
no

>>10789567
Books are more becoming things you publish just to say you’ve published a book. You shouldn’t except anyone to actually read it, just like posting papers are for academics, you don’t really except anyone to read, just hope someone does you a favor with a citation here and there.

>>10789567

>tools

It's funny, I was just thinking of the same word.

>>10789567
>retard with 1 retweet: the opinion: the bait thread

>>10789602
>57 likes

>>10789626
57 isn't a lot, especially on twitter, especially when they're "likes" [?] and not retweets, especially when they're possibly mostly by bots, especially when the originally tweet is not worthy of discussion

>>10789644
nigga you're a bot

>>10789579
want to know how i know you've never stepped foot inside a research lab?

>>10789567
>listening to a book when you can read faster than they talk

>>10789567
He's right about journalism though

>>10789661
>implying I can

>>10789661
>>listening to a book when you can read faster than they talk
I can only read 6-15 pages an hour but I prefer reading

>>10789567
t. utilitarian last-man madness.

>>10789661
if you're reading faster than the ordinary speed of speech you may as well not be reading at all, since you clearly don't give half a shit about prose.

>>10789567

>no time wasted, he posted on twitter

>>10789679
dumb as shit man

>>10789829
Found the subvocalizer.

>>10789579
>published research papers in journals are never read
Haha holy shit
Why do so many anons here have to shit on things they literally don't know the first thing about

>>10789956
bahahahahahahaha suck my dick from the back

>>10789962
Quality post anon

>>10789974

>>10789567
Philosophical ideas remain best expressed through writing and best understood through reading, so no, it isn't true. Perhaps in the future though.

>>10789567
Books as a medium have been obsolete since the invention of the camera. There literally isn't a single thing the books do that another medium can't do better.

The only purpose books have now is writing one in the hopes that it gets adapted into a movie.

This is a special kind of stupid

>>10790037
Being attractive will get you 100 times farther than being smart will

>>10790043
Farther at what though? I don't care about humanity. I seek their annihilation.

>>10790043
>implying my appearance would matter if I just want to write books

The internet gives you a pool of information miles wide but only an inch deep.

Why are roasties so prone to dunning kruger?

>>10790051
;_;7
Rest in peace, Aniki

>>10790060

>>10790053
But the internet has thousands of books in PDF form

>>10790037
This is kind of stupid.
People tend to devalue what they don't have, i'm not athletic so i don't give a fuck about athletic ability.

>>10790037
I wanna be a cute girl

>>10790092
Congratulations, you are mentally ill.

>>10790043
there's a very strong correlation between iq and income level so wrong.

>>10790037
Well now we know it's bait.

>>10789567
>get information
>youtube
>podcasts

>>10790135
success=large income
Amerimutt detected

>>10789567
Hes right. Theres no need to read whole books. Just go to the feelies and enjoy the scent organ.

Now take your soma.

>>10790050
>I don't care about humanity. I seek their annihilation.
>>10790051
It does, appearance makes people care about the books you write.

>>10790043
It really won't, unless material accumulation is what you consider 'farther'

>>10790369
the original statement that being attractive will get you "farther" which is incredibly vague. if we're talking money iq wins out, same with women. you can buy as much sex as you want when you're rich.

>>10790377
>It does, appearance makes people care about the books you write.
No it really doesn't.

>>10790067
>i'm not athletic so i don't give a fuck about athletic ability.

This is a bad example. If you cared about athletic ability you would become athletic. People who are athletic got that way by being interested in athletics.

Maybe the example works if you're quadriplegic or something.

>>10789829
t. brainlet

i don't speed read, i don't skip words, still read about twice as fast as most people talk.

What is the Summa Theologica of youtube?

I prefer to live in a comfy silence

>>10790373
Underrated

>>10790522
Common Filth

>>10790526
Damnit, I meant to reply to >>10790508

>>10790135
Nope, it only does for a small range (100-120 or so), beyond that it correlates with autism unemployment mental health issues etc

>>10790405
Name 5 authors without beards

>>10790706
https://pumpkinperson.com/2016/02/11/the-incredible-correlation-between-iq-income/

>>10789679
Same here.

audibooks/podcasts are only useful if they aren't particularly challenging. if you're able to parse a novel or lecture completely through audio then it isn't a challenging book or you aren't paying attention

>>10790722
>pumpkinperson.com

>>10790043

not exactly. pretty people still end up getting abused and manipulated. look at all of that shit with #me too. also you wouldn't want to be beautiful in a place like jail. the only time where beauty > intelligence is when we live in a safe society where nothing really matters, like this one

>>10789567
Retention from podcasts is basically 0. Listenting to a conversation isn't the same as a lecture. It's entirely passive.

Podcasts are reflective of our lazy times, where you can feel as if you're learning without doing any work.

"One day a good fortune befell him, for he hit upon Lane's translation of The Thousand Nights and a Night. He was captured first by the illustrations, and then he began to read, to start with, the stories that dealt with magic, and then the others; and those he liked he read again and again. He could think of nothing else. He forgot the life about him. He had to be called two or three times before he would come to his dinner. Insensibly he formed the most delightful habit in the world, the habit of reading: he did not know that thus he was providing himself with a refuge from all the distress of life; he did not know either that he was creating for himself an unreal world which would make the real world of every day a source of bitter disappointment."

>>10790775
>>10790753
No, it's all the same in terms of retention. Movies, reading, or listening.
If you really want to understand shit you have to write and create.

>>10790844
>No, it's all the same in terms of retention.
Not only is reading better for retention, reading from pages is better than reading from a screen.

>>10790761
kek

>>10790859
provide evidence

>>10789567
So as a person who studies history and who wants to make real essay videos, I'd like to know who on youtube this guy is talking about. Who on youtube is giving actually good lectures produced by them? Because all I see is shit that turns it's topic into kitsch you listen to while drinking a morning coffee. Primers and baseline explanations of what things are aren't real information. I don't see the next great history professor or a Chris Marker level filmmaker putting shit out, so what am I missing? What's all this information that's supposedly at my fingertips? Vikingtards getting mad about Deadliest Warrior results? "The Philosophy of Rick and Morty?" John Green bitching about the sexism in the Odyssey? These are bite sized primers that give you an outline, they do not teach. And the ones that almost do, have much less to offer than one book on the subject. The Extra History on The Bronze Age collapse was just the cliffnotes to 1177. Though I do respect them for their "lies" epilogues, they aren't just throwing "this is a myth (citation missing) the truth is this (citation missing) and so feel free to go make a coworker feel dumb in small talk" at you like there is only one position.

>>10789579
>except instead of expect
>twice
jesus please hide your age a little better

>>10790964
lots of universities upload lectures to youtube, friendo

how do you guys even find the time/will to read
started working and i never want to anymore

>>10790989
It's definitely a struggle, I'm with you there.

You have to will yourself to.

>>10790775

I don't know about other podcasts, but I am very interested in history and listen to Dan Carlin/Hardcore History a lot. It may not give you a very thorough and complex understanding of the things being dealt with, but it gives a good overview. I usually make notes and then write them in a Commonplace book.
Combine that with the reading list supplied alongside the podcast and my own list of books I want to read regarding the topic and it proved to be pretty helpful to me.

>>10790062
RIP Billy Harrington he was a good man PepeHands

>>10789644
>anon debating the value of likes and retweets
The sheer circumstance of /lit/.

>>10790989
You don't be a pussy bitch. I read every day for 2 hours after work, at least, with potential for more on days off but not always depending on what vidya I'm really into (or not). As soon as I get home I make a cup of coffee and crack a book at the kitchen table and stay there until I'm "done" (according to whatever is my self-imposed quota).

>>10789567
Not much has been said about the importance or the curation of information. So many non fiction books with titles like Slow, Focus, Bliss, compile disparate info that is all available but hard to find.

And its the journey, the connections and the skill of the writer which makes it a unique experience.

>>10790775
There aren't that many ideas worth retenting and the rest is page filler. There are often interviews of the author on podcasts where they give away everything that's worth anything in the book away in course of 20 minutes. Then there are youtube videos of random people explaining the book with hand drawn illustrations. If there is still something you don't "get", there is the world of internet with quora answers, articles, blogs etc.
There really is no point reading books.

>>10789567
Maybe for idiots who read as slowly as someone speaks. I read 100 pages an hour with an average novel: listening to audiobooks is beyond frustrating.

>>10789567
>imagine being this retarded
why live

>>10792442

That's why I listen with 32x speed and skip silence mode.

>>10792450
That sounds pretty patrician. 32x, eh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zACrFp_EHJA

>>10790530
Haha no you didn't

>>10792442
>muh speed reading
let's see the list of books you've read, i know you've got one, champ

When it comes to non-fiction "concept" books like The Black Swan, Anti-fragile or The Fourth Turning I would say these books can be summarized in 10-20 pages without losing much value in the process.
>>10790508
half hour of Hegel

>>10789956
There are a good number of papers read by the handful of people authoring/editing/peer reviewing and never actually read outside of that. Insular is an understatement.
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/impactofsocialsciences/2014/04/23/academic-papers-citation-rates-remler/

>>10789567
>We have YouTube
Stoppedreadingrightthere

>>10793846

Exactly. Youtube is pretty much for people who can't make up their own opinions on matters and need others to tell them what to think or how to react, this problem is getting gradually worse with society.

How do you even listen to a philosophical work? I'd have to rewind all of the time, you can't read most major philosophers without carefully going through the text and referring to previous arguments.
Audiobooks seem okay for genre novels, but not much else.

>>10793846
youtube is the last word nigga

Audio books aren't necessarily useless. When you hear something spoken, each word hangs in the air for an equal amount of time, but while reading you can skip ahead if you think it brings in nothing new and miss valuable meaning. You'd be surprised how many things you can overlook, even if you're paying attention. Especially if it's something you've read many times before, I suggest listening to it because it allows you to see the text in a whole new way. If it's poetry, hearing it is a must.

You can't follow everything at the speed of spoken word though, sure.

>>10789653
>>10789956
>>10790971

never understood how americans cant understand sarcasm.

>>10793725
Sorry, no list. I wouldn't know where to start. I've been reading books of all types for 40 years, taken four degrees, and taught university for over a decade now.

>>10790067
>People tend to devalue what they don't have
sometimes it is the other way round, because people don´t see their talents

>>10794084
>Audio books aren't necessarily useless

bitch nigga detected

>>10794368
>bitch nigga detected

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>>10789984
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