/lit/ - Literature

Post this on /pol/ instead

>implying women want men who spend their lives reading books on how to please women

>>10785026
fr if you need this book it's already too late

>>10785022
What is the criteria for being an international bestseller? Considering how books have that slapped on the cover, I can't imagine that the bar is too high.

>>10785041
If a book sells well in any bookstore from another country, then it becomes an international best seller.

>>10785041
I imagine if your book was in a top 5 seller anywhere for at least an hour in at least one foreign country that you can legally slap on "bestseller" with some contrived legal jargon backing it.

>>10785026
This book actually tells you why you should read it in front of women

>>10785022
>giving women what they want
>ever
my wews shall go forth and multiply

>>10785618
heh

>>10785022
I know exactly what women want, and I'm p good at giving it to them. But why should I? The vast majority of them, even the good ones, are basically teenagers: unable to express their true desires or communicate dissatisfaction but through sulking and passive aggression. Relationships with women are a waste of my fucking time.

If you care what women want you've already failed as a man.

>>10785022
>le redpill
Man PUA really try hard to sell this idea that all women want the same thing and btw the advice doesn't work. There is a difference between being a cunt and teasing something PUA don't understand. Just date women a few years younger than you and you will find sucess

>>10785727
>unable to express their true desires or communicate dissatisfaction

*sniff* nobody can, dude. this is basic lacan

>>10785747
lacan sounds like a brainlet. KNOW THYSELF. people can express themselves to a satisfactory degree, even while respecting social norms. it is a simple and useless excuse to say no one can really know themselves and therefore cannot express themselves.

>>10785758
>people can express themselves to a satisfactory degree,
you have triggered the entire Western humanities

>>10785758
>KNOW THYSELF
what a shitty platitude. nmobody can express their true object of desire i.e. object petit a because the unfulfilled desire starts to develop since the mirror stage, evidently pre-language. start to recognize the symptome in yourself would be wiser advise.

>>10785765
it's not a platitude, fucko. it's an exhortation to self inquiry.
>start to recognize the symptome in yourself would be wiser advise.
that's basically the same directive, except couched in modern terms and connoting that there is something "wrong" about the self already. stop being a brainlet.

>>10785761
good. maybe they'll spring to action and do something useful.

>>10785744
I KNOW that you didn't even bother to read a single page of that book.

>>10785793
>To regard females as "sex objects" is both natural and desirable for men[...]
>to stand up and defend this statement is not politically correct these days

I already did, it is subpar PUA crap.

>>10785022

Man, imagine being such a beta that you not only wish to serve random women you've never met but also need a self help book to do it.
Its like can you imagine the jews in Auschwitz sitting there reading a book titled "How to be Enslaved in Nazi Germany: Concentration Camps and You!"

>>10785803
>jews in Auschwitz

>>10785781
>it's an exhortation to self inquiry.
it's criminally uncurious and incredibly self-complacent though

what does it even mean to know thyself if you can't even face your anxiety-filled reality

>>10785063
This is true.

>pua
literature board

>>10785793
>needing a self help book on how to pick up women
There’s a difference between being able to date women and have successful relationships with them and being successful in picking women up. Books like these teach neither, dating and relationships are something that you have to develop yourself because it is based mostly on intuition and your nature otherwise you attract the wrong type of women.

>>10785022
/lit/ sure needs it.
>Hey! Could you please not email me stuff like this? Thanks :)

>>10785805
>if i continue lying about the genocide my friends did it didn’t really happen but i wish it did and im gonna do my best to make sure it does again

>>10785911
>911
jews confirmed for doing 911

>>10785916
top kek, well meme’d
too bad there’s no evidence the Dancing Israelis were doing anything but tailing islamic terrorists and all evidence points to the Saudis and CIA doing the deed which would implicate some Jews but mostly White elites

>>10785612
To build character by trying not to cry from their laughs?

Let's see... women want
1. money
2. good looks
3. money

>it's another thinly-veiled thread about sex or the lack thereof
do you idiots never get tired of this?

>>10785022
I've consciously decided to afk the game

>>10786289
You could've post your dids and vagai for a change.

>>10785022
I cant read. Im just here to shitpost.

>>10786289
Sex is inescapable. Its the uxkint tlrphant in the room, so its better to straight talk about sex than pretend to like Infinite Jest just because you want to fuck an indie qt.

>>10786278
This.

>>10785909
harrowing

>>10785041
a "best seller"
is when a book reaches a certain number of copies sold
I think its like 250,000

adding "international" to the tag line means that worldwide it sold 250,000 copies.

Which is why New York Times Best Seller is probably better becuase that means it sold 250,000 copies in US /Western World.

>>10785022

>W. Anton

Crude, absolutely no finesse.

Is there any particular reason to care about what women want?

>>10785928
the saudis (the royal family) are jews, though

>>10787047
I thought New York Times Best Seller meant that the book sold well in a random selection of bookstores in America.

>>10785909
Top kek, thread saved, new meme is born.

>>10786278
actually:

1. good looks

thats it.

>>10786289
if you were a permavirgin maybe you'd understand. it's hard to think about anything else for too long.

>>10785022
Despite the lurid cover, this is actually a good book.

>>10786278
T. Salty virgin

It took me a while to realize, but reading philosophy and thinking about the meaning of life and truly understanding one's self does exponentially more for somebody who wants/needs to get laid compared to these pseudo-bullshit pickup artist rags. In fact, these pathetic books only make things worse because they will only amplify your insecurities

my coworker must be a closeted mgtow. he keeps dropping random knowledge like "most men never marry," "we've become atomized," "work is a means to an end, all i care about is social relationships," yet he shows near contempt for just about everyone. guy is real smart, smarter than me, so i guess i'm asking - where did this shit come from?

>>10785022
>caring about what women want
LOL

>>10788096
it's the pretense of being interesting what aids you.

what women look out in dating is for interesting guys, hopefully more interesting than themselves but not necessarily. hopefully the guy they are dating is enough to distract them from their menial, insipid lives.
that's why they are attracted to rich guys. stupid normies confuse being rich with being interesting because society supposedly rewards wit and intelligence with money.

And it's on libgen

>>10785022
You all are so FUCKING pathetic. Looking for sex and love when you could be doing something truly worthwhile.

I dont fall for the silly trick of love that infects human minds rendering them utterly useless. I have achieved peak schopenhauer and have effectively mentally castrated myself. I can honestly say I have reached enlightenment.

>>10785022
Is it not completely obvious?

>>10787894

>>10786278
More accurately, they want:

1. reliability and responsibility (qualities conducive of raising children)

2. good hygiene and fashion sense (qualities conducive of having a healthy social life together)

3. a romantic element in you that is difficult to tame if possible at all, like an inclination / passion (quality conducive of interesting talk and good sex)

I don't need to read a book. Women want:

1.good looks
2.money/status
3.good looks

>>10788265
lol

People who say shit like "good looks are the only important thing" are lazy, talentless, insicure faggots who's rather blame their social problems on something out of their control.
Even pick up "artist" pieces of shit know this.
Most of the sex symbols in media aren't even that good looking to begin with.
At least reconize your fault in this instead of blaming "MUH JAW IS 5 MILLIMETERS TOO SHORT" or "I DON'T HAVE A 6 PACK".
Bunch of fucking autist, bet half of you are americans too

>>10788118
In my workplace a smart person would not say these things. You can get lynched for much less.

>>10786289
>>10787900
Talking about sex and analysing the frame of it is much more interesting than sex itself.

>>10788203
>when you could be doing something truly worthwhile.
Like what?

>>10786278
They want a guy with a good sense of humour and strong.
So a ninja-clown.

reading this now makes me realize what a repulsive indecisive feminine faggot I must look like

these sort of books seem to trail off into retardedness the more practical advice they offer

If you need to read something like this then you're too far lost already

>>10788455
What you laughin at, boy?

>>10789909
>What you laughin at, boy?

>>10787340
they’re not at all, that’s a Shiite lie made up by international fascist propaganda syndicates they’re just extremely greedy semites

>>10789921
I make you laugh, I'm here to fuckin amuse you?

>>10789933
so how come israel has beef with all the muslim countries in the region except saudi arabia? really extracts my oil

>>10789935
Just... you know, how you tell the story...

>>10785022
Post an excerpt or one of the points

I don't understand how PUA can know the things they do about women and still want to be around them.

>>10789940
they don't have beef with Jordan-Egypt-Saudi Arabia because they're all US allies. however Jews are not allowed into Saudi Arabia and the Saudis actively fund terrorism that harms Israelis. Its an ambivalent "the enemy of my enemy is my provisional pseudo-friend" relationship, im sure if Zio elites had their way SA would be a democratic open borders nation with Jewish investment and businesses allowed inside. The relationship between Israel and Egypt is strained, bloodstained, but they are not actively warring with each other nor trying to destroy each other anymore. Its really Syria-Iran-Lebanon-Qatar that are completely at odds with Israel

>>10785022
>talking to women in 2018

>>10785022
>has to read a book to have women attracted to him and wanting his dick
LMAO.
Never going to make it.
I can't imagine how ugly and unmasculine some of you must be.

>>10790145
the ugly part is all that matters you can be a sniveling pussy twerp as long as you are handsome and above 5'10 you're fine with women, they're really much dumber than autists realize. All that matters is Face, Height, Frame, Cock Size, Wallet Size, Social Circle in that order

>>10790112
but that's what i mean, jews aren't even allowed inside saudi arabia, but if poland passes some law about the holocaust that has nothing to do with israel they go buts, and saudi arabia banned jews, but when israel goes on a bombing spree against some refugee camp u never hear a peep from the saudis meanwhile even gay ass jordan gets mad, so like wtf

>>10790154
i don't give a shit either way, but it's like iran has jews in it's fucking parliament, meanwhile jews are completely banned from saudi arabia, but israel never says anything bad about the saudis only iran

>>10790152
>tfw poor, but good lucking with actual personality, going to marry a girl with a multi-million dollar inheritance.

>>10790152
>women won't talk to me and it must be because of the things I can't change rather than the things I can
Fag

>>10790154
well you mixed premises together that aren't related to each other to engineer a conclusion that doesn't follow

The Saudis don't care about refugees and never have, they refused to take Palestinian refugees for 70 years and so have other Arab states. They're very clandestine and selfish as a nation. Poland passed laws where you can't talk about Polish complicity in the Holocaust and also banning people who are not direct descendants of victims from collecting reparations (which is justifiable, though the first is absolutely inexcusable censorship and revisionism). Jordan gets mad because the Jordanians know most Palestinians are their people LARPing and don't want their co-ethnic getting murdered. Israel also does military operations near the Jordanian and Syrian borders constantly which upsets them and the Lebanese. Its just a different situation but the Jordanians are not actively trying to kill Israelis or oust the Jews from Israel. You're missing the point which is that the Saudi-Israeli alliance is tentative, strained and mutually advantageous a lot like the CCP and USSR's alliance in the 50's before they split. They have a common enemy in Iran and they both feed from the same hand, the United States. Jews are not liked at all by the Saudis and the Saudis are not welcome in Israel. Of course the richest elites from both nations intermingle and fraternize often outside the borders of their countries but we saw this even with the Nazis and the Anglos, there were British bankers going to lunch with Nazi finance ministers while the war was raging. The elites don't really follow the same rules as the populations. But, the official position is that Israel is not an immediate threat to Saudi rule and they both want Iran gone for different though converging reasons (Israel wants to steam roll Syria and Lebanon, seize access to natural gas, water, minerals and oil; Saudis want to control the oil supply in the Persian Gulf and the Levant). Geo-politics does not work along a Jews vs Us dynamic like /pol/ thinks which is why no one from /pol/ will ever work for a strategic institute like CSIS or Catham House or as a pentagon consultant

>>10790152
just wear a peacoat or a velvet blazer all the time, i've seen the most cringy spergs with speech impediments, acne, low intelligence, and so, get all kinds of interesting from girls just because they wear some kind of blazer or jacket, men are shallow since they like round asses and perky tits, but women are even more shallow since they don't even care about the guys genes, just if he managed to find a "mysterious" blazer at a thrift shop, like "woah u found a peacoat at salvation army? cleary your genes are desirable and you will be able to protect and provide for a family!" women are just not that smart

>>10790191
That's bullshit, women care about genes, that's why they want tall and attractive men.

>>10785022
“…I wrote The Manual because I rather meet my beautiful women than teach guys get girls…”

http://www.w-anton.com/about-the-author-w-anton/

>>10790185
>mfw when some jidf shill writes this long ass thing

dude like i said i don't really care save your essays for /pol/

>>10790197
well ya of course u can't be a manlet everyone knows those guys are insecure and have small dicks, that goes without saying

>>10790202
ok man whatever you can believe whatever the fuck you want, but when you come on neutral boards and then people contradict you calling them JIDF shills makes your position look weak
>>10790191
please shut the fuck up you PUA parasite narcissist
>>10790197
this. there is only one truth FHF and then dick size, wealth, sociability
>>10790180
that's not what I said, however being attractive, then tall, then strong and big, then well endowed, then wealthy, then well liked by lots of desirable people has a marked effect on success with top tier women. Its not hard to get an ugly chubby gf by being a mediocre bug with a bad face whose skinnyfat. Its extremely difficult to get a 9/10 or even 8/10 gf if you are 5'6, have a 5" penis, are not that popular (but maybe have really close ties with friends you care for) and are just funny and pleasant to be around, even if you put yourself out there and do all the right things. Biology matters, we are not ghosts inside of meat suits, we are our bodies and genes. Darwinian selection is real, women are the sexual selection mechanisms for our species, they will pass you over for a less funny, dumber, nastier guy who is taller, sexier and wealthier. There is nothing immoral about this, they're just protecting their eggs from low fitness mates. Sex is not divorced from reproduction, if it was people would randomly picked partners or would pick them based on just personality traits, but this is absolutely not the case at all. Dating apps prove this as does not being blind at parties or social events with younger adults

>>10790224
>makes your position look weak

i don't have a position you paranoid moron, the fact that questioning why saudi arabia and israel never make public statements about each other really triggered tf out out of you lol

>>10790224
>please shut the fuck up you PUA parasite narcissist
>this. there is only one truth FHF and then dick size, wealth, sociability

lolllll

>>10790227
your position was that Jews weren't killed in the holocaust, then Jews did 9/11, then Saudis are Jews, then "why don't Israel and SA talk about each other" (which it wasn't it was why don't the Saudis attack the Jews or oppose them, which I answered), now you're acting like you're just asking innocuous questions. You weren't asking innocuous questions you were insinuating things, I pretended you were asking innocuous questions and then answered all of them thoroughly to the best of my abilities
>>10790231
biodeterminism rules everything around you faggot deal with it

PUA's are psychologizing predatory snakeoil salesman who pick on genetic sludge that will never do better than a 7/10 one night stand or a 6/10 GF. You cannot break the great vaginal ceiling anon if you do not have a handsome face, huge wallet or big cock/lots of friends. It is proven over and over with scientific studies. I am not a narcissist for repeating what is basically evo-bio common sense. You are a narcissist for spending all your fucking money on peacocking and trying to sell people your self-help garbage. All that matters is your genes that's it. If you got good genes, then excellent you will have lots of sex and fun times with friends. If not, then you will have to subsist off of intermittent sex, less friends and harder time having attractive mates. This is scientific, this is backed up by literally endless studies on human mating patterns.

both of you are mentally ill and need to look closely at reality without inserting cognitive biases

>>10790254
>your position was that Jews weren't killed in the holocaust, then Jews did 9/11, then Saudis are Jews

what the FUCK are you talking about? seek help my dude jesus christ

>>10790258
see: >>10785805 >>10787340
>>10789940
>>10790154
>>10790164
>>10790202


Regardless I've answered all of your questions, you can try to gas light or bend my words but its clear from the first what I was saying to you. Goodbye /pol/

>>10785022
I don't think so buttercup

>>10788492
t.

>>10785022
>What women want
/lit/ has read the Wife of Bath's Tale and knows the answer

>>10790254
I've seen lots of guys who are my height (5'5) walking around the streets with cute little gfs they're pretty average looking face wise too. I think you just want a reason to not try and better yourself. I was this way too once and it's a waste of time. These things are outside of your control, nothing you can do about it so work on the things you can. Don't be a slave to your own insecurities.

>>10788492
Europoors have life on easy mode when it comes to sex and relationships fuck out of here.
Dont assume because you can be an autist who doesnt even know how to drive a car and get laid that it's just as easy everywhere else. Oh and if somehow you're still too autistic you fuckers have prostitution. Europeans you should be banned from discussing this topic.

>>10785022
>"Dedicated to all the beautiful women in the world, especially those I have made love to."

fucking shivers, man.

All males want women. However, not all males will admit this, and very few actually act like it. Instead, most of them focus more on making money than on making love. They put more effort into getting a promotion than getting a
girl. They spend more time with males than with females and more time talking
about women than to women. They do this because they believe they need to, not because they really want to, and they have either no idea or too many bad ideas about how to get girls because no one teaches them how to seduce women properly. Despite its
significance in life and the universal expectation of the male to take the
initiative, courtship is something males are left to discover and learn all by themselves, and most never do. Parents teach their sons all kinds of things, but they do not teach them how to find the woman of their dreams or what to do
when they see her. Boys certainly do not learn about seduction in school either, despite spending more than a decade there preparing for supposed real life. All that males have are their friends, who are just as clueless as they are, and ideas from movies, stories, and ads — ideas that are conceived by similarly
uneducated and inexperienced people and sometimes carried out with ulterior motives, such as selling a certain product. Thus, most males never really learn how to get the girls they want and just come up with foolish ideas they try repeatedly until luck lands in their favor or a female finds them. This results in a hilarious mess to watch for those of us who
know how it all really works, but the mess is not as entertaining if you’re in the
middle of it.

Most males make excuses about why they avoid women altogether, or they approach women but always with an excuse. The specific methods and maneuvers can vary endlessly, but they all have two things in common: They are both indirect and ineffective, and they include pretending to bump into women,asking to light their cigarettes, joining dance classes, asking for directions, dressing outrageously to get attention, asking friends for introductions, forming strong friendships with women first, passing notes in class, offering to buy drinks, and buying a cute puppy hoping it will run up to a woman or draw her attention. It seems as if males will try anything other than walking up to women all by themselves and talking to them without hiding their intentions as if women
were highly dangerous or uninterested in men.
To be indirect and to rely on contrived circumstances to meet women is the norm, so no one ever steps back and considers this process or its necessity, even though it is ineffective and odd. This pattern is overlooked because it is so prevalent, like trees in a forest.

However, this approach makes very little sense to me. Life is too short. I do not have time to talk to the attractive woman’s unattractive friends first or tolearn how to dance salsa to meet more women. If I see a woman I find interesting, I walk straight up to her and tell her so, and women absolutely love it! While few males believe they will live forever and would laugh away the accusation of holding such a belief as silly nonsense, most still act otherwise.With the decisions they make on a daily basis — and the way they reason in the heat of the moment and postpone things until tomorrow — weeks, months, years, and even decades can go by without much change in their situation with women. Slowly but surely they are wasting their lives away one day at a time.No male wants to do this, but most believe it is necessary and inevitable, and this belief governs their behavior.

The manner in which any male pursues women is based on his mindset, on
all the beliefs he has garnered about what women want and how to best give it to
them. While most males believe that women are attracted to things that are not
natural to begin with, such as money, this is not the case. There is obviously a
natural way to attract women that does not rely on anything external, certainly
not on anything manmade like money. All males are actually born with these
instincts but learn to repress them while also learning to believe that women
want things they actually do not want, and that is what this book is all about.
To understand males’ general behavior, such as why they spend more time
pursuing money than women, one has to examine their general beliefs. Our
underlying beliefs determine our behavior. Our mindset controls our manners.
The trouble is that we are not always aware of our beliefs or where they
come from, and if we have believed something for a very long time, we are not
likely to challenge it. This is dangerous. Blind faith in any endeavor tends to
make people waste their lives on things that are not necessary and to do all kinds
of foolish things, and the endeavor to seduce is no exception. If you want to
become better with women, your first priority should be to make sure you are
heading off in the right direction instead of following the crowd, especially
considering the fact that most males are not particularly successful with women.
You have to understand what makes most males believe women are to be
pursued indirectly and where these shared beliefs come from. It is surely not
from experience, since even unsuccessful males seem to believe they know what
women want.
A male who wants to get better at seduction must understand what women
want, what they are naturally attracted to, and how that differs from what he has
been raised to believe.

>>10791527
>>10791531
from the book intro, faggots, in case someone wants to read it.

>>10788118
A mixture of Micheal Hollebeque, Schaupenhauer, and life experience: I can say this with confidence because I’m probably him

>>10790224
Never gonna make it if you keep thinking like this

>>10791534
I read this first sentence and it was terrible so I stopped reading
PUA will always be stupid bullshit for I secure betas who can't take responsibility for themselves

>>10785855
>what does it even mean to know thyself if you can't even face your anxiety-filled reality

The two are linked together. Knowing yourself is facing your reality sincerely.

>>10791604
it's actually pretty decent so far.

>First, the tighter a necklace or scarf sits around a female’s throat, the more attractive she looks because it is a symbol of submission to have something around your neck, like the rope around the neck of a pet or slave.

>Second, the more a female looks upward when she is photographed, the more attractive she looks because it is a sign of submission to look up to someone else, much like a pet or a child does. The higher the camera is above her head, the more feminine she looks, because it is symbol of physical smallness if she has to look up.

so post us a link to the pdf so we can read it

>>10791629
I don't believe you

>>10791637
>Second, the more a female looks upward when she is photographed, the more attractive she looks because it is a sign of submission to look up to someone else, much like a pet or a child does.
Well no sweetie the effect of this is to magnify the upper part of the face, in particular the eyes, because large eyes are attractive as part of neoteny.

>>10791637
This is the autism that people who aren't shameful wastes of life see when they read PUA shit: the weird obsession with power dynamics, the offputting referral to women as "females", it's all really pathetic and probably written by a manlet tbf.

>>10791662
normies know this stuff by instinct, ur just mad someone took the time out to tell the tism kids

>>10791662
I've read the first 20 pages and he says that he calls attractive people men/women and people as defined by their biological sex males/females, so that's just nomenclature.

>>10791662

>the offputting referral to women as "females"

This gets me too. You can just smell the autism, stale cum and entropy lingering in the air of the room of a person who does this consistently.

>>10791680
same with the people who use autistic terms like "white male"

>Men who know how to get girls meet more women in a weekend than you do in a year

it was ok and then...

>>10791680
What's wrong with the word females?

>>10791690
Again, if you don't know, you'll never make it

>>10791698
In Spanish female animals are referred to as "hembras" and male animals as "machos", I always thought "females" and "males" was the English equivalent. Seeing both sexes from a biological point of view.

>>10791711
Autistic people do it that way but people that aren't retarded will say "men and women"

>>10791730
Gotcha.

>>10791341
lol

>>10785022
1 word
>painal
If you don't wreck a woman's shitbox on first rape you're not worth it

>>10785802
>>To regard females as "sex objects" is both natural and desirable for men[...]
This is a true statement. All women subconsciously "objectify" men so it's necessary for a man to do the same if he wants to be on an even playing field when talking to girls.

>>10791730
Woman, chick, girl, female, who gives a fuckk.

>>10785022
What good is a singing lesson for somebody who is mute?
What good is a dance class for somebody with no legs?
What good is a sex-manual for someone with severe autism?

>>10792076
u 2 can get poosy, man.

>>10792076
the worst thing i ever heard in my life was when some little asian manlet said wrt to me "if i looked like that i'd get so much fucking pussy" he was one of those clingy little betamen who always has his arm around some poor girls neck, i'm like he clearly doesn't understand autism

>>10791303
^

>>10791662
Roastie toastie>>10791665

>>10793989
I can show you my dick if you want

>>10785022
kek

>132 replies
woah

>>10788805
I know this image is used for shitposting, but anyone who looks at the image should ask what it is about it that is so harrowing. Why do their stares frighten the onlooker? What about them makes a man feel shame? The image convinces the observer that everyone in the room has seen past the charade and into the pores of his self-doubt and insecurities, and so he feels exposed. It masterfully picks at his social anxieties and antagonizes him.
So how does the image enable this feeling? It plays on his self-perception. In order to rationalize their reaction, he looks at himself critically and find flaws that may or may not be there. Once these flaws are recognized, he devastatingly ask if his being is suitable for society.
The man who answers this question correctly is the one who lives happily. What makes a man suitable to others? Is it his wealth, or his appearance? His charisma and cleverness? Perhaps the emanation of his physical strength over others? The man who fails to answer this question pessimistically accepts his rung in the ladder. The wealth does not add up; his physique compares poorly; or perhaps he is not as charismatic or clever as the man across from him. And of these things that he cannot or will not change, he accepts them as a criterion for scalding criticism against himself.
The man who answers correctly understands who he is. The wealth does not add up, but it is sufficient; his physique is not the best, but he tries to maintain himself; he is not the most clever man in the room, but he strives to be the better man. For the faults he can change, he seeks to improve, and for those he cannot change, he stoically accepts them. Unlike the man who fails, however, he does not let the things he cannot change be used against him for judgement. He believes that a man who will not respect him because of things he cannot change is not worthy of his own respect. And so he solves the puzzle of the judging crowd. It is they who are not worthy, and not himself.
(Of course, the man who answers correctly takes one axiom to justify his answer - that he strives actively to be his ideal self. Were it otherwise, he would be deceiving himself, choosing to instead rationalize his lack of progression towards a better version of himself.)

>>10796148
Damn, this is actually oddly inspirational
gj anon

>>10796148
that pic just looks to me like the observer just shouted "PRAISE KEK" and started chugging a half gallon of milk

>>10796148
>What about them makes a man feel shame?
Nothing. You're just a spinelles westernised pseud first worlder who's afraid of being looked at in a weird way by fucking women and who seeks to overcome his unresolved teenage tensions through shallow, fake deep philosophofizing.
Probably a virgin as well. You disgust me.

>>10785022
why would i need some stupid nerd book when my tinder game is poppin off harder than my kindle

>>10786278
A response of an illuminated intelligence

>>10788265
A response of someone who consumes too much vegetable proteins

>>10796148
I don't find the image harrowing at all.

>>10796148
While I do agree that part of the equation is to basically accept yourself the other part is to deal with the concept of ostracization. Basically whenever people around you are looking at you like that you have to also be sure that you are not only enough for yourself but also enough to deal with the world if you are left one on one with it. You don't have to be completely rational about it or figure out every little thing that you would do (even though this may help) but you have to know that you will be alright.

>>10785740
The main goal of a man is to reproduce so you spend your entire existence trying to woo and please women anyway. That is, if you want to be a true man or whatever the fuck.

Someone superficially mysterious and at least somewhat attractive.

>>10785026
>>10785612
>>10786251
making them laugh is half the battle anon
also
>he doesn't use the garish dust jacket to hide the Daodejing

>>10787894
this
what they want is good looks
what they need is money

>>10785026
Based Checkmate Anon.

>>10785022
If this worked then everyone would be doing it and so you should do the opposite of what the book says to appear different.

Essentially:
>Women are not logical machines with a user manual

The absolute state of the cess-pool of waste that is American culture promoting this crap

>>10785747
>>10785727
>tfw when this explains much pain

>>10785744
>>10785903

I think excessive porn, relaity tv, and PUA twats have single-handedly fucked a generation of men which admittedly J. Peterson is now trying to help

>>10791990
You don't need to do this you melon; men do this innately.

The issue is trying to boil a man's interaction, love and romance into a fucking American self-help manual.

Absolute bellends the lot of the PUA lot. Would probably call Keats a cuck.

>>10796148
the implication is that the crowd finds you displeasing and wants you gone. Its an act of social violence, their gaze I mean, you are expected to vacate the premises. The whole crowd wants you dead or out of sight and out of mind. What you and everyone else fails to realize because they're obsessed with self narratives is that there are people who do not measure up to standards, for instance female sexual selection standards and they are rejected, not only this but they are berated, tortured, mocked, blacklisted, harassed and ostracized for their rejection. You don't just get to have sex withheld, you are told to fuck off out of the space where selection happens. An ugly virgin is unwanted, they are a walking plague carrier, they are an ugly sight, they are a bad omen, a human curse, a blight. This is not something one can simply rationalize away.
>>10791441
inceldom is rising in Europe as well
>>10791600
you're preaching a lie. There is no making it. Everyone who makes it was already on the verge of making it. I'm not a virgin, I've had sex with a beautiful woman I was in love with and enjoyed it as did she. I've been in love, I have friends, I go to school. I get attention from women in class, on campus, out and about and off of dating apps, decent looking ones I would be proud to take home to my parents or show to my friends. What I am trying to illustrate is that there is an iron law of selection. FACE HEIGHT FRAME DICK SIZE WEALTH SOCIAL STATUS in that exact order. Anyone who excels in that hierarchy of traits, which is almost entirely from genetic endowment will outslay anyone else who is defficient. Yes there are ugly short men with cute gf's, yes there are average short guys with decent gf's, yes there are kind of ugly but rich guys with hot gf's these are called exceptions. They are not exceptions because of their agency, they are exceptions because of two factors: luck, which absolutely exists and if you don't believe it you are an anti-intellectual of the highest order and of course genetics. Those are more fit losers who are doing well for themselves, yes the ugly man is a loser, he lost the genetic lottery, his kids will bear his shame even as he impregnates his hot wife (who cheats on him), looks are basically the most important thing you have going for you. Genetics and luck are everything and those who make it have both in spades. There are more average guys with ugly gf's who they don't like, who they whine about, and who they can't leave because they'd have to beg for pussy from other ugly chicks just to get laid. Women can date up, women can command attention from men who are higher sexual status than them because all men need to get laid, women just want attention and intermittent pleasure.

>>10785022
>Americans need a book to operate around women
Embarrassing

>>10800380
Fuck off. It's simply not so mechanical

>>10800386
Not really our fault. Our women have been reprogrammed into wanting careers and hookups instead of relationships and motherhood. They operate like a gang, and any hint of settling down with a man is an act of betrayal. See how the college female operates: her peers ask her why she hasn't broken up with her boyfriend yet. Why should she be limited to one man when there are so many handsome, attractive, virile men around her?

Its an obsession with youth and beauty and the fear of growing old that has turned women into turbo sluts. Ask any woman if she would rather die young or old.

They'll choose the first one every time.

>>10800429
its a lot more mechanical than you or anyone else will ever let on, if you opened your eyes and did some research of your own instead of remembering fond ancecdotes and self-help crap you'd see how very real what I've said is anon. Just look, LOOK with your eyes at this world, its not a very nice place. Women aren't beautiful lovely little flowers waiting for the right bee, (You), they're wild animals with incredible appetites and only the most handsome beasts can have them. This is the way of the world, this is the way we were made, total evil ruthlessness and hatred of the weak. Every single human culture exalts powerful, handsome, lethal men, beasts of prey. All women have the same desires, as do all men.
>>10800443
no its just material conditions changed and epigenetics took over from there. look up social epistasis

>>10800380
>PUA discovered IRON LAW of attraction!

how do women know ur dicksize until you fuck them? how do women know your wealth until they see where u live? lot of posers with bmws who live in the fucking projects, etc.

dumb list, get a clue, nerd

>>10800485
one thing that's been turning me off from /lit/ lately is the constant posting by mentally ill people, they seem to be infesting every other thread

>>10800497
>how do women know ur dicksize until you fuck them
other women will tell them, and as soon as your pants come off they can see it. Also speaking of why men go on dates, have sex and then get ghosted.
>how do they know your wealth
from how you dress, your hair, your job, your car, what restaurant you take them to, how educated you seem, what your friends look like, your Instagram. Unless you are a sociopath who is fronting hard you will be found out quickly.
>lots of losers with BMW's who live in the jects
yes and women are told by each other about them, they can also smell when guys are fronting from a mile away if they're high quality and experienced. I know because I've talked with them about guys pretending to be rappers and coke dealers on IG and then they show up and they can't afford dinner and want to fuck in the car because their apartment is garbage. You also just ignored all the other phenomena associated with endowment (like height, handsize, skull size, manliness, sports background) and wealth (all the aforementioned plus a million other details that would give away wealth).
>get a clue nerd
you're just embarrassing yourself man

>>10800514
why are your resorting to attacking my character instead of what I said? did i touch a nerve or are you intimidated and don't have a rhetort beyond suggesting what I said isn't rational by way of my insanity? I'm curious anon, what is it that I said that you take issue with? Do you really think women aren't more attracted to male models and baseball players and frat boys than they are bug nerds and retail workers and UPS employees? Are you daft?

>>10800549
ok women are attracted to attractive men, not a surprise... then you start talking about lethal beasts and evil ruthlessness and shit, seek help

>>10785022
no thanks I already know what I want

>>10800597
i mean women are attracted to hyper-violent men. The guys on death row always have a posse of chicks sending them letters and stuff

>>10796148
>>10800380
The point flew right over your head
If a group of people won't show a man respect at his best, then they aren't worth his time or respect. At that moment, what more does he have to lose? Do you disagree with that? Or are you so concerned with other people you'd let them take a shit on you for their sake?

>>10800614
wait but your iron law of attraction didn't include number of bodies, u forgot to add that, where would be in the ranking? like face, height, numbers of kills , wealth

>>10800623
im not that guy, and he is being autistic, but i think he is more or less right. it's not so black and white, but it is a lot more 'primal' than our society like to pretend

>>10800629
but i'm pretty, tall, wide shouldered, and big dicked, but i never get laid so something doesn't add up with your list there bro, but if those are the excuses you tell your tiny dicked self for why u never get laid that's cool i guess, but keep it to yourself no one wanna read that

>what women want and how to give it to them
Femanon here, excited to find a book that will help me self-actualize

>>10796148
>TLDR
>Ego is man's best tool and worst enemy.
>You must be able to engage in critical self-reflection.
Why did you waste your time typing out that block of text Anon?

>>10800597
but that's just your taste or lack thereof I don't give a shit if you don't like the poetics of what I'm getting at you pseud
>>10800620
no the point from the picture, not from the insipid CUTE anon post, is that the group decides what lives and dies. If you are rejected you must leave that deme, you must go to another ecosystem and find other people to consort with and mate with. If all the popular kids at your school hate you, reject you, ridicule you and berate you constantly YOU are the one who has to leave, they don't have to do shit. They needn't even think another moment about you as soon as you leave. You're selected out of that gene pool. Your little narrative about being holier than thou means nothing, you failed in that environment and you must seek refuge elsewhere. People love to romanticize their mistakes, their rejections because knowing you are at a loss and worse for it is horrid for one's sanity. Of course the strong will spin a narrative and leave, but no matter what in the eye's of an objective observer you're a fucking loser and that's what that picture implies. That person is not wanted
>>10800648
I don't believe you
>but if those are the excuses you tell your tiny dicked self for why u never get laid that's cool i guess
yeah I really don't believe you man

>>10801130
>I don't believe you

that's how i know you're an ugly manlet, you walk around thinking "if only i were a foot taller i'd finally get laid!" kys

>>10800288
>The issue is trying to boil a man's interaction, love and romance into a fucking American self-help manual.
>namedrops like mad

Who are you to be drawing the lines?

>>10800272
is this J. Peterson person giving free handjobs?

>>10800380
>FACE HEIGHT FRAME DICK SIZE WEALTH SOCIAL STATUS
>tfw I'm just a tiny bit above average for all categories

If you guys pandered to yourselves as much as you pandered to women you would find yourselves dating a lot more of them.

>>10800531
this desu

I know what women want.

The problem is that usually most women don't know what they want. Either that, or they refuse to admit what they want because it sounds shallow or they recognize that it's more of a best-case scenario than anything.

>>10800698
made me kek, PUA books are the JBP of roasties

>>10802166
me too but i never talk to women because i have autism, the worst thing is to get busted staring at a chicks ass because then she's going to try flirting with me for a week before she realizes i'm a social retard and moves on to some chad

>>10801541
kek
>Only if you're not a marxist

>>10801419
Who am I?
>The gals dem sugar

I'm no-one.
I mentioned Keats and that is all. The absolute state of you not understanding that there is a fucking reason the brightest and most creative have grappled with such deep issues and I'll be damned if critiquing the worst elements of American culture distilled into a book for bellends will answer perplexing questions of life and women.

If you must know, I am also your Uncle who comes around when your dad's away.

>>10800531
>other women will tell them
This is true. I often hear them laughing.

>>10785909
Oh no...

>>10786278
1. Good looks
2. Hygiene
3. Cavalier attitude
4. Money or status
5. Good body
6. Aspirations
7. Humor

>>10785022
No. I don't care what women want. I'm creepy. I pace my room at four in the morning whispering responses to hypothetical 4chan arguments that might arise from posts I have read but never responded to. Leave me alone, and let me masturbate to rekt threads in peace (or should I say pieces lol).

>>10785022

>reading a book with a colon in the title

>>10803336
>the brightest and most creative
>perplexing questions
My point exactly. You are not equipped to grapple with such concepts at a high level, let alone set the rules for discourse.

>>10804119
>Muh rules
>Muh rules
>Muh questions
>Muh rules

Are you repressed anon?

>>10804147
You're doing it now

>>10804151
I set no rules.
I merely pointed out the banality of the OP's book, the author and PUA movement and American self-help books in general.

Obviously too much fluoride in your water.

>>10804179
>I set no rules.
>I merely pointed out the banality of the OP's book, the author and PUA movement and American self-help books in general.
Contradiction

>Obviously too much fluoride in your water.
If you're talking about that thread on /pol/, I'm the OP so if either of us know anything about the toxicity of fluoride, it's me.

the only PUA advice that I have ever truly found helpful in all of my autism towards women is that, in the end, when you meet someone you are attracted to, you should always try to have fun and show them you can be someone who can enjoy himself, make people laugh or at least make them feel at ease.
Being interesting/mysterious, good looking, smart, affluent and whatever is important, but it doesn't really matter if you are a bag of anxiety making everyone nervous, an insufferable arrogant cunt or someone who takes everything seriously.

I've always been surprised that people on 4chan are always >tfw no gf when they are some of the funniest people on the Internet, it's not that hard to make someone laugh unless you have legit autism

>>10805166
Making girls laugh has literally never helped me
Also, 4chan's sense of humor is incredibly masculine and does not translate into humor girls find funny irl

>>10805170

This will sound offensive but it is the truth
Women typically have the same sense of humor that a little kid does

>>10805170
it's not about making them laugh, because you become too clowny and it's hard to take you seriously, it's about making them have fun, I don't know if you get the difference, because it's kind of subtle but noticeable.
I mean, I'm a loser when it comes to women, but this guy's approach is what I've found most helpful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1tiiv4Wg7M

>>10801275
setting aside the panic in your attempt at "bullying" me, its interesting that you concede that you need to be tall, attractive and well endowed to have confidence and do well for yourself. As confidence is derived from what you are, arrogance from what you fancy yourself to be like, conceit from what you misinterpret. thank you for proving my point implicitly anon, also 2/10 I've heard worse from IRL retarded hicks.
>>10802093
no because female socio-sexuality is determined by biological factors you have little control over. all of these social psychology self-help statements you people have made in this thread have absolutely no defense against the female size-up. I'm sorry
>>10803343
dick pics too
>>10801556
everything except for height I have slightly above avg and for this I am thankful, but I weep for those who have never made it and who suffer the PUA parasite

>>10803865
How do we stop being hyper avoidant autists?

>>10805439
you need to put yourself in a situation where people will make fun of you and where anxiety might freeze you to the point you wanna cry
either you survive and become more social, or you die socially

have you guys ever tried chatting with someone at random on the street?

I would like to remind those of us who are insecure of our sexual potential, that threads like this are cancer unless you are willing and able to take edgy advice like this >>10800380 with a grain of salt.
The confident way some people manage to blabber on about their twisted worldview, it's sometimes enough to fool one into thinking they actually have a clue..

>>10785022

No. I won't help your stupid book sales which don't matter, and I won't increase the net suffering in the universe by bringing new beings into it via the act of sex. Nature is evil.

>>10785022
1)Virginity is not in itself a contemptable thing. If the goal of your whole existence is getting your dick wet, i am both very happy and very sad for you.

2) a fucking virgin is devirginated. if you cant be bothered to make a working insult, im not sure why we should follow your suggestion.

You are dealing with /lit/ here anon, not /hc/.

Stop reading that book anon. It's making you snobbish for no reason.

>>10785740
This
Don't live your life for a bunch of thots.

>>10806318

Read this instead.

>>10805432
Nope. I am ugly as fuck but because I stopped pandering to girls and started improving myself and making myself a more interesting person girls started to respect me. Of course, I think I am super boring and ugly, but if you can show a girl you are passionate about something other than getting in her pants, you can come across attractive and confident.

Yes, if you go after vapid whores you will get rejected, but in the end dating is a numbers game anyway

>>10785022
bruh i dont care what women "want", especially when i'm prettier than them and wearing a jacket that cost more than their cars

>>10806703
> but in the end dating is a numbers game anyway
yes and maximizing your numbers comes from looks

>>10806809
No it doesn't. Maximising your numbers comes from putting yourself out there. Tinder and dating sites work, but really you want to be doing stuff of your own accord - joining clubs, meetups, events. Places where you can meet people but doesn't entirely hinge on whether you pull a girl or not.

>>10806471
I recommend this. This is the only self-help book that has actually helped me

>>10807004
>Tinder and dating sites work, but really you want to be doing stuff of your own accord - joining clubs, meetups, events.
yes if you're attractive they work very well

>>10807019
did you just completely ignore the second part of what you quoted? No wonder you have trouble with dating sites with that kind of selective reading.

Trust me, nothing is more ugly than a guy crying about how ugly he is. If you're really that ugly looking then take the L and work on other parts of yourself. At the very least make yourself happy.

>>10807032
im not having trouble. reiterating the point that face, height, frame, dick size, net worth+income, social status are the hierarchy of traits women are most strongly selecting for. There is undeniable, irrefutable proof that women allocate their attention based on male expression of those traits. Those who are blessed with them are dominant and the one’s who are not have less chances to mate

You are on 4chan, what women want has been debunked here and is a regular topic on pretty much every board.

>>10807046
You sound like me when I was single. Most of these 'rules' of what girls want are in your head, and most are insecurities than can be fixed. I am a chubby bearded mudslime looking guy and I found a hot white girlfriend.

>face
Is mostly about skin. Fix your diet and wash your face.

>height
Is really only a problem if you're noticeably short. I am 5'11 but most girls believe I am 6ft

>frame
Can be fixed in gym. Also looks at your posture.

>dick size
doesn't matter until you're in bed. plus it's like height, unless it's noticeably small it won't be a problem.

>net worth+income
As long as you are earning enough to be comfortable then this is basically negligible. Any girl that bases her attraction to you on this isn't worth your time in the first place (this rule is more important than anything - you have to be selfish)

>social status
again, any girl that rejects you because you don't meet her 'social status' standards is a waste of time.

The important thing to take away is that by having this AWALT mentality, you are giving them the power to hurt you before you have even tried. The other important thing is to not get angry if a girl rejects you because of something like income, but instead realise that she is the kind of shallow girl that would've caused problems in the future as well. Be selfish.

>>10785022
But I'm gay. So what do I read instead?

>>10801541
handjobs of the mind maybe.

>>10805315
>women are little kids with boobs
mind=blown

>>10805432
t. manlet

>>10806797
so please enlighten me as to why you would post such an ugly picture on the interwebz then, pretty boy with an expensive jacket?

>>10807091
Hogg

Femanon here.
Women want ass to mouth, face fucking, spit, urine and getting slapped.

>>10807348
More like every woman who goes on and mentions theit femininity on a site with generally held misogynistic views is likely to have severe mental issues and a pathological craving for male approval. Either a giant attention whore looking for prey or one of those weirdo chicks who got bullied by boys at school and is now unable to get off in any other way or integrate with normal feminine society. Much like how male feminists turn out to be either cucks or serial rapists.

>>10785022
Read this instead.

TL;DR version: Be as vague and cryptic as possible. People will spend the rest of their day trying to figure out what the fuck you said and will eventually become obsessed with you.

>>10807592
Damn.

>>10807364
tl;dr

>>10785022
Nah, because I don't want to give women what they want.