/lit/ - Literature

Philosophy is what people use as a coping mechanism when they can't make peace with reality.

>>10745423
His own will was was asceticism and he had to rebel against his own will, in order to achieve The Will.

>>10745438
Reality, in this case, includes wondering what reality is.

>>10745440
No. The Will is the same for everyone and everything. He said that by means of asceticism you reduce the Will and reduce suffering. If he was naturally ascetic (which he wasn't.) why would he want to increase suffering?. Also read about his life. Everyone agrees he didn't practice what he preached too much, only in cases were it was convenient like not marrying, even though there are multiple accounts of him trying to get young girls.

Virgin Nietzsche vs Chad Schopenhauer when?

>>10745502
kinda

>>10745423
>Bro do as I say, not as I do
Yes?
He said what the best way of living was, it looks like it required strong self discipline and maybe he didn't have enough.

>>10745519
I think he did give pretty good reasons why to live like the ascetic, but it just adds some in-authenticity to his work if he didn't live the way he told other people to live. If he was so smart to write The World as Will and Representation which I do think is a genius piece of work, how come he didn't have the discipline to live the "right" way.

The more Schopenhauer threads i see the more i want to read what he's all about. Is there a good work to start with that's short enough to sneak into my reading list?

>>10745423
Kierkegaard had his number

>>10745575
Try reading Hegel, hate it, burn his books. That's all you need to know about Schoppy

Fucking hell

REEEEEE Third time's a charm

>>10745546
>in-authenticity to his work if he didn't live the way
It doesn't have to, he might have tried his best and accomplished subtle benefits we're not aware of. Even if it's not a miraculous conversion story like Augustine or whatever.

>>10745575
I think "wisdom of life" (can be found online) is a good place to start.

>>10745423
Must the sculpter of a beautiful statue also be beautiful?

>>10746747
I expect the man giving me sculpting advice to be a fucking sculptor.

>>10745590
Wtf I want to read Kierkegaard now

>>10745579
Based
K was ourguy desu

>>10746764
Kierkegaard generally tried to live what he preached which is admirable

>>10745502
theyre both virgins

>>10746764
do it

>>10746833
Schopenhauer had sex, lots of conquests, he became pessimistic and stopped being sexual as he got older. Nietzsche probably visited a prostitute which is almost definitely where he got syphilis from, it would be ironic if his losing his virginity was the end of him

>>10745423
The only philosopher, who lived by it, is Diogenes

>>10746924
>Schopenhauer had sex, lots of conquests, he became pessimistic and stopped being sexual as he got older.

Is there any evidence of this account that didn't come from Schopenhauer?

>>10745423
I appreciate him for his essays still but he's probably the worst, most ineffectual philosopher of recent centuries.

>>10745423
Just because you can see the peak doesn't mean you will reach it.

Rest in peace fallen heroes.

>>10745423
He'd be an emo redditor if he were alive today.

>>10745423
When are you going to make the Ligotti sour-grapes thread again? God, normie rhetoric is pathetic.

>>10746758
Got em

>>10747166
What an "effectual" philosopher?

>>10745423
>ctrl f: "Tu Quoque"
>0 results

This is simple stuff guys. No need to make a meal out of it.

>>10745579
Thank you for the neck pain.

>>10746764
Kierkegaard is so good, I've never found a single fault with him

>>10747256
No one is saying his ideas are invalid.
The thread was a observation that he largely didn't live the way he told others to live in his magnum opus and essays.

>>10747329
Who cares?

>>10747345
A man is judged by his actions, not his ideas.

>>10747345
It's a little strange. It would add something to it if he was like "Look, this is how it's done." Lead by example. I think he might have thought that he would never get this well known and that people wouldn't dig into his personal life. He only got popular later in life.

>>10747356
Maybe, but you need ideas to rationalise your shitty life. Look at normies. A lot of them believe in karma or horoscopes in order to make some sense of their shitty lives. You don't literally have to do what you think is right, you just have to hold it in your mind in order to feel better about yourself.

>>10747356
ideas are actions

>>10747363
>you just have to hold it in your mind in order to feel better about yourself.
Sorry anon, you aren't going to make it

>>10747275
FUCK OFF
>>10745590

>>10747368
And down is up?

>>10747373
By "not making it" you mean I won't be paralysed by constantly feeling guilty about things I'm not doing without ever improving? Take your rules too seriously and you'll quickly be disappointed. Keep them loose and you might be able to cope with your shitty life. It's what the masses do to stay asleep because that's what works. Any form of rationalising is basically just telling yourself pretty stories so that you can sleep better at night. And even if you have stories that drive you to suicide, they're driving you to suicide because it's the least painful option.

>>10746924
Lol ok Arthur

>>10745590

Too bad kiggy was just a worse version of Schopenhauer with no discernable writing talent

>>10747910
>kiggy was just a worse version of Schopenhauer

>>10747356
Philosophers are certainly judged by their ideas if you are judging them in the capacity of their being a philosopher.

>>10745423
>isn't a vegan soyboy
>drinks the drink of the elite
>owns a gun instead of being a cucked pussy
>worked hard for money and fame

literally nothing wrong with these

>>10747910
>kiggy was just a worse version of Schopenhauer

What

>>10747384
No you have a dualist understanding of reality based on essences and bodies. ideas are an activity in the nervous system and require activity to propagate as well. All things are actions, and in a relative space up can indeed be down

begone schopicuck