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> had had

>> No.10734467
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> whomst've

>> No.10734476

>hitlerto

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> thereupon whereas

>> No.10734490

>And but so

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>arms akimbo

>> No.10734497

>>10734493
english has some horrid expressions.

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> -grabs him by the throat- back the fuck off!?!?

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>>10734501
> kiss you ass

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10734558

> whomsoever
> hitherto
> whence
> insofar
> henceforth

>> No.10734562

>>10734558
>inasmuch

>> No.10734622

>get got

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10734811

> whatever
> whatsoever

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>albeit

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10734835

> happenstance

>> No.10734843

>>10734835
I like that word desu

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10734847

> so so
> so-so

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10734856

> yonks

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> henceforth
> whence

>> No.10735084

>a female character calling a man a "fucking asshole"

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>theretofore

>> No.10735173

>>10734461
>To-day

>> No.10735184

>>10734558
What's wrong with any of these?

>> No.10735240

>>10734461
> das dass

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>the

>> No.10735249

>whereby
>methinks

>> No.10735254

>>10735240
*dass das

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>>10734493
vommed all over my laptop, unironically too

>> No.10735264

>>10735249
methinks is literally ogretounge

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> insofar as

>> No.10735360

>>10735254
There's nothing wrong with "dass das". It's regularly said in everyday speech by Germans and nobody thinks it's weird.

>> No.10735769

>jářku

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>that that

>> No.10735837

>>10734461
>I'd have had to have had

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>>10735837

>> No.10735891

>a great many things

>> No.10735893
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10735893

>>10735837

>> No.10735952

>>10734490
>be cry

>> No.10735992

> to-and-fro

>> No.10736062
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>>10735891
when I wrote shitty SEO articles and a shitty marketing job I used this phrase as much as possible because it was a few extra words

>> No.10736299

>yesteryear

>> No.10736310

>det er det det er

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10736313

>having had

>> No.10736807

>>10734622
>get get get get
>got got got got
>blood rush to my head lit hot lock

>> No.10736928

>>10736807
kek

>> No.10736936

>"___," he cried

>> No.10736938

>>10736310
better det than detter, anon

>> No.10737197

>>10735837
This one is beautiful.

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10737213

>sad like drizzling rain

>> No.10737242

>>10734558
Whomsoever is great, fuck you.

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10737289

>>10736807
>double kazoo intensifies
www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfpLjZCfeg0

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10737298

>>10734558
STOP expressing yourself

>> No.10737369

>>10735837
>I'd've had to've had

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10738893

saving this thread

>> No.10738913

>>10734558
>tfw never use "whence" in writing
when is this even appropriate to use?

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10738921

>>10735871
>thusly
>therefore
>irreconcilably
>now with

>> No.10738928

>grok
>!=

>> No.10739039

once you start using the word via, you cant replace it. You cant stop.

via via via

>> No.10739119

>>10734835
Serendipity is far superior

>> No.10739122

>>10735360
Name one sentence where "das dass" is grammatically correct or makes even the slightest bit of semantic sense.

>> No.10739124

>thiverto

>> No.10739126

>>10734461
On a similar note: I've noticed that I've used the word "had" a lot in a recent story I wrote (a good portion of it is a sort of recollection of something that happened in the past, however). Is this something that is particularly annoying to you guys as readers? Is there something I can do to fix this?

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>moreso
>albeit
>notwithstanding

>> No.10739144

>>10739126
>a good portion of it is a sort of recollection of something that happened in the past, however
well that's just it
Don't write in past tense fucing idiot

>> No.10739146

>thus

>> No.10739148

>>10739126
that part in american psycho (the movie) where bateman is talkin to the detective and hes like "had it been burglarized?" and the dude is like "no it hadn't" it just sounded fucking stilted and im like did they do that on purpose to make fun of waspy rich dudes or like was it just a bad dialogue

>> No.10739193

>>10739148
hmm let me think >>>/tv/

>> No.10739219

>>10739144
It's about someone recollecting an event though. It happens in the past.

>> No.10739224

>>10739148
>im like did they do that on purpose to make fun of waspy rich dudes or like was it just a bad dialogue

>TFW you want your characters to talk like real people but you also don't want readers to think you're an idiot who can't write good dialogue.

I'm not sure exactly who pointed this out, but characters in books basically never talk like people do in real life.

>> No.10739243

>in excess of

>> No.10739245

>>10734461
had had

>> No.10739249

>>10734461

The OP is wrong. also

>the which
>that that (used to wonderful effect in the Gettysburg Address

I like both of these but I'm just playing along with the meme.

To this very day, I remember having read somewhere "Do let's", and later trying out this new language/correctly incorporating same into something I wrote for the class. The thing came back with a mark because the pleb teacher had never encountered this form before, and mistakenly believed that I'd confused word order or placement, or something along those lines. There's nothing like /knowing you're right and know better than the adult in the third fucking grade/, and growing up, and having adult vindication on same.

>> No.10739283

>not least of which is
>one's self
>moreover
>, so to say,
>we as it were (Wittgenstein in translation does this constantly)

>> No.10739322

>as per

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>>10734461
>henceforth

>> No.10739328

>>10738913
means the same thing as "from where"

>> No.10739345

>per se

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>>10738921
Two.

>> No.10739695

>>10738893
is that jeff goldblum

>> No.10739699

>>10739148
I rewatched the movie very recently and there's a lot of weird choices in takes they used, some of the deliveries of lines by secondary and throwaway characters are stilted or forced, especially the asian girl who massages Bateman's face saying "so soft, so smooth." Nobody fucking talks like that.

>> No.10739702

>>10739345
>per se pronounced as "per say"
>per se written as "per say"

>> No.10739706

This is such a fucking stupid board.

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10739736

> faux pas
> not pronounced Fax Pass

>> No.10740634

>in conclusion

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10740709

>Zoinks!

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>disclude

>> No.10742089

>>10739249
I had an elementary teacher who didn't know how to pronounce "cicada" and evidently wasn't familiar with the word at all when it came up in a book

>> No.10742513

Will Smith will smith.
Will Will Smith smith?

>> No.10742521

>indubitably

>> No.10742522

>>10739249
You were an idiot back then and are still.

>> No.10742544

>Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo

>> No.10742652

I just the word "just" way too much, both in my writing and everyday speach. How to fix this? It's an awful habit, and I just want to stop.

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10742657

》不了了

>> No.10742658

>>10742513
How much will will Will Smith smith if Will Smith will smith will?

>> No.10742663

>>10734461
If it's good enough for Virginia Woolf it's good enough for me

>> No.10742664

>>10738893
>>10739695
I can't help but see the merchant face

>> No.10743333

>>10742652
just stop

>> No.10743533

>wide plethora

>> No.10743540

>>10735837
lol

>> No.10744998

>>10738913
Honestly, whence is a fine word on its own. It becomes a problem when people say:
>from whence

Also
>thusly

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>thither

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10745047

>moresoever
>accordingwise
>indubious

>> No.10745073

>I bel-
-ieve that cut-
-ting words in ha-
-lf is one the grea-
-test of murders to aes-
-thetics.

>> No.10745078

>>10742658
>Not
>How much will will Will will if Will will will will.

>> No.10745082

>>10739122
you fucking mongoloid he obviously said dass das is ok. das dass is not. dense cunt.

>> No.10745345

>>10745078
>How much will will Will's will will if Will's will will will will

>> No.10745566

>>10739224
you can write good dialogue whilst also making it heavily mimetic, flawed like real life speech etc

it's all about proper intuition

look at how DFW does it

>> No.10745594

>>10745566
>whilst

>> No.10745619

Spanish fag here
What's the difference between
>"It will take a while to make you smile" and
>"It will take awhile to make you smile"
Is the second sentence grammatically correct? Help please

>> No.10745624

>>10734461
>thusly

>> No.10745631
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10745631

>would that it were so

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10745640

>indubitably

>> No.10745643

>>10739702
>perse
Persian in French. E.g. Ce pauvre con est un perse !
Ass in Finnish. E.g. Anna persettä!

>> No.10745741

>>10742652

Tools -> Search & Replace -> delete everything

>> No.10745959

>>10734461
It's past perfect possessive, perfectly valid and inevitable.

>> No.10746225

>>10734558
Whemce is fine, "from whence" is the real cancer

>> No.10746230

>>10736310
Det e det det e

>> No.10746253

>>10739695
i said these exact words out loud and after that i read your post, holy fuck

>> No.10746264

>tfw love had had

>> No.10746627

>>10745619
A while is a noun phrase, whereas awhile is an adverb. I believe the latter is incorrect since it is not modifying a verb (a while is just being used to say “a period of time” instead of describing any verb).

>> No.10747062

>>10746264
based Stein

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>>10735240
>das ass

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>'d

>> No.10747222

>>10739706
>shoves you

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>unbeknownst
>clad
>vice versa

>> No.10747555

>afeard

>> No.10747562
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10747562

>Shall instead of will

>> No.10747575

>>10735260
Miliband looks hotter with a beard

>> No.10747941

>>10739345

>per se
great when it's used to mean what it's supposed to mean
should be shown in italics since it's foreign

>> No.10747969
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10747969

>>10735837

>> No.10747986
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10747986

>peradventure

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10747988

>Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo

>> No.10748130

>>10742513
>>10742658
>>10745078
>>10745345
If Will Smith's will will will to smith well, and Will's will will will will well, will Willow Smith will to smith well as well, as well as Will's will willed to?

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10748530

>had had to have had

>> No.10748544
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10748544

>Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo

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>>10748544
>James while John had had had had had had had had had had had a much better effect on the teacher

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10748564

>>10734461
>what's more
>not so fast
>supposedly
>crowned by
>beyond all doubt
>verily

>> No.10748568

>>10745566
i think Cormac McCarthy's books have some of the most realistic dialogue in any book I've read

>> No.10748585

>>10748564
>not supposably

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>>10734461
>Floccinaucinihilipilification

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>be that as it may

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10748674

>>10736807

>> No.10749853
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10749853

>>10734461
>chthonic

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>>10734493
problem?

>> No.10750020

>>10739706
and still one of the smartest in this god forsaken place.
really makes you think uh?

>> No.10751088

>>10746253
honest to god, I looked at this picture, said "is that jeff goldblum", then looked at the first comment, was wowed, THEN looked at your comment.

>> No.10751144

Holy shit haven’t laughed this hard in ages.
thanks, niggers :’)

>> No.10751236

>>10739249
This this

Also, there is nothing wrong with 'and and'. For emphasis.

>> No.10751818

>>10751144
You're welcome newfriend. Le epic 4chan thread amirite!

>> No.10752249

>>10747555
afear'd or afeared*

no need to thank me englishlet

>> No.10753684

>>10734461
Albait

>> No.10753850

>>10734461
>>10734493
>>10734558
>>10734811
>>10734831
>>10734835
>>10734847
>>10734856
>>10734993
>>10735084
>>10735138
>>10735173
>>10735249
>>10735327
>>10735778
>>10735837
>>10735891
>>10736299
>>10736313
>>10738928
>>10739140
>>10739146
>>10739324
>>10739345
>>10740634
>>10740709
>>10742521
>>10743533
>>10745022
>>10745631
>>10745640
>>10747261
>>10747562
>>10748530
>>10748564
>>10748599
>>10748614
>>10749853
Nothing wrong with these.

>>10738921
Only 'thusly' is wrong.

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10753895

>>10734461
>unshonederneath

>> No.10753928

>>10735837

i'd have had to of had***

>> No.10753968

>>10753928
I'd af to've ad

>> No.10753997

>>10748568
Check out Gaddis if you wanna see god-tier dialogue

>> No.10754197

>>10739736
>faux pas
>not pronounced Fox Poss
fixed that for you

>> No.10754479

>>10753850
>Only 'thusly' is wrong
Controversial statement. Delete your 4chan account.

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10754488

>should of

>> No.10754582

>>10751144
Get the fuck off my board

>> No.10754619
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10754619

>>10734461
>penis
Oh!

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>>10748530
That that had had to have had that that that had had had had that that that had had to have had.

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10754714

>Aforesaid.

>> No.10754720

>>10754708
Do I get a prize for fully understanding this?

>> No.10754758

>>10734461
>to've had two of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR5x8u0SAYg

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10754781

>'literally'

>> No.10754782

>>10751144
le epik /b/ army
LOLOLOLOL

>> No.10754797

>>10734461
>had had
where did you actually read this in print

the entire premise of this thread is destroyed, everyone go home

>> No.10754807

>>10754797
not OP, I can find you many examples in Swann's Way

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10754962

>>10754708

>> No.10754975

>>10752249
m-m'lerd...

>> No.10754982

>>10754797
>where did you actually read this in print
Everywhere. Fucking everywhere. The """"""scholarly"""""" publications of tomorrow will all unironically feature this. t. college English/writing tutor

>> No.10755926

I amn't.
Any story?
Sure he beat him out've it.
Would you ever fuck off would ye?
Ah sure, i'll risk it for a biscuit.
I hear these on the daily and they drive me crazy

>> No.10755937

>>10739119
Funny, I've always hated how that words feels on the tongue

>> No.10757539

>>10754962
>>10754720
You're like small babies

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10757559

>>10757539
forgot pic

>> No.10757634

>>10734461
>qua
>Dasein

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>>10757559
>Reading Heidegger while tripping or stoned

>> No.10759490

>oftenly

>> No.10759511

What books are you guys quoting?

>> No.10759530

>Apropos

>> No.10761224

>>10753928
I'd've had 't've had

>> No.10761241
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10761241

>problematic

>> No.10761880

how is this thread still here after like a week

>> No.10762058

>>10736310
der skal være mere plads på skiltet mellem jens og og og og og lars.

>> No.10762072

>>10745566
>look at how DFW does it

to see all the mistakes an author can make and know what to avoid, yeah

>> No.10762128

>>10762072
>implying DFW isn't praised for overcoming the ultimate linguistic struggle of the postmodern movement
>implying his attention to detail in recreating and describing the use of language wasn't absolute God Tier

hate all you want on his prose if it's not your cup of tea, but don't shittalk his ability to get language

>> No.10762336

>>10734461
>that that
>at-at