/lit/ - Literature

>>10690253
did he go to FSU

>>10690213

New content ahoy

>>10690682
fuck off with this

>>10690253
fucking eyes, I feel like her master and her slave at the same time

>>10690687
t. Beterson

>>10690682
>>10690698
These fucking suck

>>10690647

>>10690682
>>10690698
holy....

>>10690602

>>10690738
Please tell me this isn't real

>>10690753
It's his blog

>>10690744
Unironically a good post and a good BTFO of reddit leftist.

>>10690761
ozymandias.png

>>10690738
Jesus fucking Christ GURM

>>10690834
eh, right direction but not as good as >>10690213

>>10690213
anyone got a varg grug

>>10690738

Imagine reaching your sixties with this sentiment still intact.

>>10690932
this one always gets posted. it's reddit

>>10690940
omg that's literally 4chan are you blind?

>>10690213

>>10690834
can I get one of these without the incel projection? I hate tinder culture too (and most women desu) but that way of thinking is cancerous

>>10690785
I didn't subvocalize until I went on /lit/ and there was a thread about it. Now I can't stop. I hate you fucking people.

>inb4 u r now brething manually.exdee

>>10690785
h-how to do this

>>10690936
Was this the screenplay of Black Panther?

>>10690936
But did he ever publish his magnum opie and anthony?

>>10690752
ur not /lit/ unless you listen to Blind Guardian

>>10690726
k e k

reminds me of reading homer. thirteen pages devoted to listing all the sections of the armies and where the come from and who they're related to and who their best friends are and what their favorite colors are

>>10690924
made me lol

>>10691578
The foundation series is the star trek of scifi novels.

>>10690780

>>10690773
ayy i go to the laffy barnes and noble all the time. i've probably seen this forsaken soul.

>middle brow
>middle
more like gutterbrow

>>10690602
reference?

>>10690744
the funny thing is up until the start of 2016 the left had been winning the meme war for ages, seemed untouchable

>>10690773
I once met a philosophy major at an autism social
he said it wasn't hard
he also ate up what another autist was saying about chemtrails
I felt bad leaving a little early because he was a nice guy

>>10690834
>hating on MythBusters
fuck you too, it was fun, it started as an earnest way to examine modern superstitions, and even when it became MythExploders it was always fact-focused
>the real repressed minority is the people who can't get a one-night stand
boo fucking hoo, I've never been laid and you don't see me bitching about it (much)

>>10692236
Oh no! You made the mistake of defending something that 4chan thinks reddit likes. I guess we all have to laugh at you now. Oh well.

>>10690977
seconded

>>10690726
> thirteen pages devoted to listing all the sections of the armies and where the come from and who they're related to and who their best friends are and what their favorite colors are

that's fucking beautiful part though. i wish there were more of these moments of love and detail in modern literature.

>>10692391
meant for >>10691722

>>10692099
Max Stirner.

>>10690253
someone should put a subtle page on the girls mouth

>>10692236
Mythbusters is pre-reddit
only turbo newfags /pol/edditors hate it because adam savage turned into an uber-redditor

>>10690744
>>10690765
>>10692145

summary please?

>>10691001
why would you want to stop subvocalising? if anything you should be getting into the habit of reading aloud more often.

>>10692425
He's basically saying that Reddit and in general internet socialist are fucking retards (to put it lightly) because their "socialism" is entirely devoid of any real world responsibility and instead it's just another dumb label they put on themselves without never having a serious engagement with the ideas of their supposed ideology. But it's more than that, he's characterizing the entire realm of contemporary politics in pop and internet culture as nothing more than mere fashion. He says that the Left can't win the meme war because actually being a leftist, a socialist in this case, requires a full-on serious commitment, it requires being radical, and memes are the opposite of that. If you call yourself a leftist and all you do is shitpost on le epic twitter about the fotm Id-pol issue or about "socialist videogames" or "lefty memes" you're a fucking retard because your "socialism" is nothing more than a fashion choice, and memes are the characteristic product of this culture, hyper-thoughts used to signal your political (again, fashion) choices that don't imply any real world commitment to your ideas and in fact they imply the opposite.

>>10691001
>u r now brething manually
Fuck you! Also: The game.

>>10692417
What's even the point in making tongue-in-cheek jabs at 4chan culture when a reply, reinterpreted as satire, is more humorous than the original post?

>>10690767
one of my alltime favs

>>10690213

>>10692535
>tfw my thoreau grug wasn't included :(

>>10690213
hehe

>>10692601
That's /his/ humour.
Also, Leopold II was chad as fuck.

ass

>>10691656
I was tricked like 5 times, faggot.

>>10692634
lit and his overlap tho

>>10692526
I agree.

>>10692648
delete. It encourages them.

>>10692526
>>10690744
Very interesting post and he's quite Zizekian in his analysis. (when Ziziek talks of a new wave of "muh irony and clicktivism detached false-left-social consciousness)"

One thing I will add; having been in and seen some really fucked up situations in the third world to which the poster oft-refers that are a world away from the leftist twats he is rightfully criticizing, there is immense humour among the very people who are in dire situations

Take a slum-dweller; they aren't "muh serious," all the time; they live as humans in the most appalling conditions and you'll find they have their own memes and social jokes that mock their own situation. They are for more socially conscious and humurous than the very leftists that seek to silence any and all humour with the slum-dweller as the subject..

>>10692484
why

>>10692685
What do you meme

hewa

>>10690744
Summary:
Too many people talking with full-stomachs

>>10692696
DELETE YOUR POST

>>10692526
George Orwell said more or less the same thing about middle-class socialists in Wigan Pier

I know I know, its Memerson, but he sums it up well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVJOTYzAW1U

>>10690692
that was rather poetic my man

>>10692638
Who is this pls?

>>10692730
cioran

>>10692736
Ah thanks, only saw pics of him as a young man so far.

>>10692665
/his/ is a retard containment board for /lit/

>>10692425

>>10690682
>>10690698
love these

>>10692811
I saw unironical oldfags on facebook (yeah I know, oldfags on facebook), talk about GG all the fucking time.

>>10692526
that's retarded

>>10692709
He did bro.
He did.
He was from the upper classes and knew how the left leaning intelletcuals viewed the very people they said they supported.

Nye Bevan's - In Place of Fear is criminally overlooked by these left intellectuals because
>muh mining working class lads can't write well

>>10690692
cappped, checked.
>/lit/ prose/poetry thread collection when?

>>10692694
because that's where the beauty of good prose is. the meaning of the words is one thing but their sound is another, and if you read just for meaning and ignore the sound you lose half the content of the writing. not subvocalising is a second rate way to read good prose, like looking at black and white reproductions of a painting - you might understand the subject but you've lost the rhythm of the writing.

I'll admit that with average prose or with translations this doesn't matter as much, on the other hand if you really want to understand a poem you absolutely have to read it aloud. same for the KJV, which was written specifically to be read aloud and doesn't have anything close to its full impact when read silently.

>>10692973
That book sounds interesting, whats it basic point?

>>10692977
Here's the best one I ever capped in a Rupi thread.

>>10693010
:) and they say Australian lit sucks

Now do one about "jobs and growth"

>>10692924
t. twitter socialist

>>10692996
Still getting through it.
It rejects more far-left marxism and communism in favour of democratic socialism but not the pussyfied kind.
A very good argument for standing up to power in the political and economic arena through a most simple philsophy; Stop being greedy smug pricks and help men evolve and progress and stop making excuses and help create a better world in pragmatic terms not merely intellectual masturbation and onanist theorizing

Nye Bevan is probably one of the most influential and legendary Socialists that has ever lived;
From a mining family and village and with a stutter (He became friends with the King later featured in the "King's Speech," should really be about Bevan but he's not upper-class enough!)
He literally talked the talk and walked the walk showing that one man with the support of many can do great things with sheer will
He built and fought for the NHS, built housing, schools, hospitals and built the social security system etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0eEa5ZOUtc

His book is in the public domain via India's free public library online (google)

A true internationalist too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZmw8XIoZeY

>>10693079
Also described America as having
>Technical brilliance
>Social blindness.

>>10693079
Sounds like my kind of thing. I'd probably consider myself a democratic socialist. Thanks for the rec, I'll see if I can find a copy of it somewhere online. I hate digital copies

>>10692236
>i haven’t been laid
hahahahahahahHahahahahahahaha

>>10693192
If that is the case i wish you well and if i could i would refund you any money for that purchase if you found it to be trash and below your expectations.
It's simple, to the point, biographical and just to me speaks so much sense

>IN MANY, WAYS it would have been better for a book of this sort to have been written by a person detached from day-to-day preoccupation with political affairs. Yet, as I come to write, I begin to see that there are advantages possessed by a political practitioner like myself that are denied to anyone living a more cloistered life; for in the pattern of my own activities has been woven the main strands of the political epoch which began with the end of the great war of 1914-1918.

>I started my political life with no clearly formed personal ambition as to what I wanted to be, or where I wanted to go. I leave that nonsense to the writers of romantic biographies. A young miner in a South Wales colliery, my concern was with the one practical question:
>Where does power lie in this particular State of Great Britain, and how can it be attained by the workers?
>No doubt this is the same question as the one to which the savants of political theory are fond of addressing themselves, but there is a world of difference in the way it shaped itself for young workers like myself.
>It was no abstract question for us.
>The circumstances of our lives made it a burning, luminous mark of interrogation.
>Where was power and which the road to it?

>It will be seen at once that the question formulated itself in different fashion for us than it would have done in a new, pioneering society or in the mind of someone equipped by a long formal education. In such cases the question shapes itself in some such fashion . . .

Stay sharp lad.

>>10693216
You too budd, maybe one day we'll even burn this MF to the ground. One can dream :)

>>10693216
>I leave that nonsense to the writers of romantic biographies
I'm a such sucker for humility.

>>10690682
>>10690698
not bad but that guy is usually a fag

>>10693577
Indeed, he needs to be taught a fucking lesson for being so gay.

>>10690744
Sometimes a meme is just a meme.

>>10692600
What the fuck.

>>10693192
How can Democratic socialism truly exist when you have to use force to instill your political agenda? Not very democratic

>>10690213

This and the comic with the Northwest hipster were so true I remember the threads where all the faggots got butthurt.

>>10690765

Unironically kill yourself you dumb boogee cunt.

someone has more like this?

>>10692236
>I've never been laid
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

>>10692236
>I've never been laid
literally how
in the 21st century
how

>>10692526
I fail to see why that wouldn't apply to fascist aswell.

>>10690682
This is an accurate portrayal of postmodernism, though.

>>10690566
what the fuck is this, 2008 /b/ folder?

>>10690744
Absolutey astute in how memes intrinsically create a separation from subject, enabling the evasion of responsibility.

However, it is also true that irony, a mocking detachment from one's own positions, assumptions and prejudices, yes, even moral ones, is necessary - indeed not a barbarous but a necessary element of civilisaiton and self-reflectivity. In fact I would say that if one is always approaching the world from a context of "authentic relation", of reponsibility and overflowing seriousness without the possibility of relief, detachment, of an allowance for change in perspective, temporary or otherwise, one is liable to become brutal, an ideological abscess. Dangerous, malignant. Sick in the brain. Perilously spooked - common affliction of capital-L Leftists.

Both authenticity and irony can become means of evil relations to other human beings.

>>10690936
this one always gets posted. it's reddit

>>10690744
he underestimates (or maybe doesn't bother writing about) the subversive power of humor, but other than that i don't see how this remotely belongs in a /lit/humor thread.

>>10690744
Rafiq is a pretty fiery lad

>>10694776
perhaps the most egregiously naive statement ever made

>>10694763
Because fascists live in a fantasy world

>>10690682
>they hate anything objective
>they love all that is subjective

Not even dad jokes are this horrible.

>>10692600
Anon was right.
https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/2018/02/jk-rowling-created-army-liberals-now-they-are-turning-against-her

>>10695226

>Alice’s magic wand is made of pine, and it has a phoenix feather in its core. The 17-year-old Italian knows this because she uses Pottermore, a website where Harry Potter fans take quizzes to find out what life would be like if they lived in the wizarding world. On Twitter, she spends two hours a day updating her profile with clips, quotations and pictures from the books and films. But while Alice loves everything about Harry Potter (she has read each of the seven books 14 times), she does not like JK Rowling.

This is existential horror on the level of Ivan Ilyich.

To get what I mean, give a thought or two to how much time a day you spend on 4chan

>>10693820
the one where the guy poems about menthols and coke?

>>10690253
is that sadler?

>>10695226
>An entire generation grew up with Potter, and many feel it informed their liberal politics (one political scientist even claims the series “played a small but not insignificant role” in electing Barack Obama).
>Rowling taught a generation liberal values – now, they’re using them against her.
>“This is a series I have dedicated years of my life too, and one that has continually let me down.”
>“The final nail in the coffin” for Terry was when Rowling tweeted about muting fans for “abusing” her, as Terry felt the author was dismissing feedback from the LGBT community.
>“I won’t burn my Harry Potter books or anything ridiculous like that because she already has that money from me,”
>the largest army she has helped to create – a generation of millennials who grew up reading her books and have fiercely liberal values – is now out of her control
wtf did they expect out of very watered down christianity anyway, stop getting your education out of children's genre fiction in your 20s, and read a book that isn't part of a series once in your lifetime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebfjuk2fHJo

>>10695289

If you're implying I hate 4chan, you are very wrong. This place may be 90%+ complete garbage and ignorant shitposting, but even that is redeemed to a degree by its authenticity. As for the rest of it, that golden minority, I have seen information, passion, humor, and true insight on a level I rarely see from other human beings IRL. I'm not going to throw in my personal life details, because I don't want the "lying on the Internet" retort, but I'm not a social pariah by any means. And I would say, in the tangent of college education, that 4chan has done as much or more to enrich me than most of my college professors.

From /fit/ and /lit/ and /his/ and /ck/ and /pol/, I have heard the opinions, minority as they may be, of people who have actually driven me to better myself and inculcated a desire to look honestly at life and see what matters. A lot of that is my own nature, but this place has been a useful influence. If you can wade through the shit and find the gold, 4chan will edify you rather than corrupt you.

>>10690692
I'm gonna steal this, it's pure gold

>>10695472
Wading though the shit to find the gold is worryingly addictive, especially now that the site's deterioration is accelerating so rapidly and the gold is becoming vanishingly rare. This site is going to be the end of me.

>>10695603
This sounds sadly familiar
Is it worth it anymore?

>>10690682
>>10690698
Embarrassing.

>>10693210
>>10694178
>>10694243
Oh wow! You had SEX! Congratulations!

Just kidding.

Having sex is literally the most basic, desperate, tragic, hopelessly-void-of-meaning, outrageously obnoxious, troublesome, costly, and downright pointless cry for help that the universe has ever screamed. Wow, you were born as an objectively good looking, decent looking, or perhaps borderline acceptable member of your species. WOW! INCREDIBLE! You managed to procure a willing (which in evolutionary terms, willing translates roughly to "fucking desperate for at least a few reasons") mate and managed to somehow perform the act of intercourse with her! WOW! This his literally only been taking place for HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF FUCKING YEARS! WOW! Except guess what, you probably wore a condom... which means you failed at submitting yourself to an act which means absolutely nothing. The only thing left to do now is kill yourself.

>>10690785
>but in truth it is the person watching me who is a fool

>>10695792
This but unironically.

>>10690936
>mastication of what the nigger made not
wow

>>10695603

When, in real life, was the last time you had a substantive discussion about literature or politics or philosophy with a group or even another individual who you could trust to A. Have a thorough (or even decent) understanding of the subject and B. Be able to continue the conversation even if it turned out you disagreed with them?

Looking at the last six months, I think maybe once or twice, with my old English (a Shakespeare and Emerson and the classics lover) teacher who is a Constitutionalist and devout Catholic.

>>10695383
>>“I won’t burn my Harry Potter books or anything ridiculous like that because she already has that money from me,”
So money is more important than principles?
Holy fucking cow.

>>10695813
Ironically this.

>>10695226
>>10695383

it's kind of funny because it had the opposite effect on me. i loved harry potter but then had a strong (internal) reaction to JKR all of a sudden coming out and claiming all of these things that werent present or hinted at anywhere in the book. dont know if its called canon, or whatever its called, but its just a case of someone whose fame ran out try to renew it. not even about politics or ideologies

>>10693782
Man, I wish we'd have more pro-/lit/ memes...

>>10696133
Upvote.

Bondage is the intellectual's fetish, but fetish is the intellectual's bondage

>>10696438
This is an accurate portrayal of postmodernism, though.

>>10694833
>sure, you shouldnt never be serious, but neither should you always be serious!!
Thanks, Becky.

>>10696396
this but in reverse

>>10696680
I remember that lol

>>10696644
Thiis iis aan aaccuuraatee poortraayaal oof poostmoodeerniism, thoouugh.

>>10696644

>>10691639
Socrates being a bitch is the funniest thing to me, chiefly because it's so apparently in the original text and these memes only bring it to the forefront.

There's the What I Read/Expected/Got for his dialogues, and I LOVE "if it's loved by the people, the state and the gods, then of course it's just bro... SIKE!"

By Zeus!

Unff just post more Socrates memes please

>>10697920

>>10695792
Hey buddy.

You know you're going to die in 50 years?
All that knowledge and introspection you've accumulated while everyone else had sex will be lost in the ether and be of value to nobody.

have some fun will ya you autistic sperg.

>>10690744
Trying to read this image has injured several of my eye muscles

>>10690761
I take more of a Jonah-approach. I am, however, still waiting to get out of the fish.

>>10692629
that's not even how it works reeeeeeeee

>>10690744
Sounds like a bunch of nonsense. Every time someone tries to explain some human experience (humor, love, etc.) it never adds up.

>>10693079
>conservative politics
>20th century
Honestly, pick one.

>>10690566
Smiled at the innocence

>>10697928

>>10697927
Holy fuck, my philosopher.

>>10697163
kek

>>10693079
All liberalism is disgusting. The only good liberal is a dead liberal.

>>10691001
Neither did I, but I'm not mad
Isn't it a good thing?

>>10698095
>All liberalism is disgusting. The only good liberal is a dead liberal.

Definitely a burger 'Murican.
What a non-sequitur;
How is that post anything approaching a classic liberal?

>>10690744
TLDR;

Leftists will not win at memes because some things they are unwilling to mock so their memes are always stale and boring.

He then goes onto explain that this it is good that leftists don't mock somethings and that leftists should abandon memes because it is bourgoisie for some reason.

>If the postmodern ironic subject was actually susceptible to the conditions of life faced by the grand majority of people in the world, if their mothers were sod into sexual slavery, and abused just to support them, if they had to work long hours as children, if they were immersed in the hell that was the wars of the Congo, if they lived as the average Indian slum-dweller did, they would not be so keen on finding the world so funny, now would they.

This is very funny.

>>10690785
It's funny because when I read Shakespeare and stuff I actually have to force myself to vocalize the words out loud to get a feeling for the rhythm and force myself to imagine the scene in my head.

>>10694763
He brings that up too tho

>>10690744
>Someone took time out of their day to write an autistic rant about why the left can't meme which boils down to
>"Because we get too butthurt about it"
>There are even more autistic morons responding to it , projecting some kind of intellect in the matter without ever thinking they could *possibly* be over thinking it
Humans were a mistake

>>10698432
Shakespeare is basically poetry so that makes sense honestly

>>10690977
>>10692361
literally just cross out paragraphs 3 and 4

>>10690744
Finally, a thorough explication and proof of why the left can't meme.

>>10690834
not funny at all, you may have messed up up my day geez

>>10690970
lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfR9iY5y94s

How many times did he beat?

>>10697928
Suck my cock, dude.

>>10690773
The Pharaoh bit makes me laugh every time

>>10691630
Holy fuck, that last one is hilarious.

>>10698735
How many times did he beat himself?

>>10698729
thank you for posting the video, I wouldn't have seen it otherwise.

>>10695792
>>10697998
https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/563eft/
>>10697928
>>10698790

>>10690566
gotem

>>10695792
>t. virgin pucciboii

>>10698885
>https://www.reddit.com

>>10698885
>>10698957
Here you go.

>>10698656
>t. triggered leftist who can't meme

>>10693079

As an aspiring author and political scientist I find your mention of his having a stutter really interesting. I've had a life-long struggle with it and it can be just as debilitating as any chronic condition. I've considered dropping out of many career paths as a result of it, but seeing him with a similar problem refreshes my will.

>>10698992
Leftists can't meme is a meme.

>>10690744
the left can never win memes because they do not allow fun, let me tell u a quick story, i was at some protest in the bush years and i had taken a bus trip to dc that was organized by some local stalinists, well, on the way back the bus driver put on a jim carrey movie, dumb and dumber i think, and everyone myself include just say there trying not to laugh, there was only one proletarian guy in carharts and timberlands who was an out of the closet laughter, at one point he just couldn't hold it and let out a belly laugh, everyone else just sat there sulking, this is why the left will never meme

>>10690253
saddled by sadler.

>>10696680
lol

>>10690213
foreigner fag here, I don't get it

>>10699053
>and Political shientisht
kys faggot

>>10698415
I like girardanon's interpretation better.

>>10699162
From one foreigner to another it has nothing to do with you not getting it.

>>10699071
Your acknowledgement of the 'Leftists can't meme' as a meme, makes it as such. And who invented that meme? /pol/!

Checkmate.

>>10690977
i agree. women are terrible, but for even worse reasons than the ones mentioned there

>>10692811
This one just makes me sad
I've been on 4chan since an online friend from SA linked me weeks after moot made it
/sp/ prior to 2012 was the greatest board to ever grace this site, no contest
That image is accurate enough to make my soul hurt. Reddit fucking ruined the internet, it will be remembered as a more catastrophic eternal September in the grand scheme of things.

durrrrrrr i actually believe that i'm manipulating my social status by changing my consumption habits
durrrrrrr
*reads some obscure germanic philosopher nobody cares about*
*tries to alpha dudes by making odd remarks about their entertainment choices and bringing up his own*
*meets girl who has read hegel or some shit*
*becomes obsessed with her and tries to lick her butt*

4channnnnnnnnnn

>>10693782
Damn that's literally me.

>>10699272
>>10692811
06-07 golden age, the old memes, demotivational posters, old /b/ etc

10-12 silver age, oldfags left, old traditions died out but many boards got their unique culture by this time period

13 and beyond, lost

>>10692811
>tfw the mercy of death is denied us

>>10699272
>/sp/ prior to 2012 was the greatest board to ever grace this site, no contest
>a board for sports
>the greatest anything
I do believe your nostalgia has blinded you. To quote a once oft said line, /b/ was never good. And that applies to all boards.

>>10699590
>he doesn't know that spuh used to be more that sports

>>10699602
Like what? I never browsed it.
>his first example involves a dedicated tripfag

>>10690734
would be much better without the last panel

>>10699602
Sweet fucking christ
Every time I think I've seen the most concentrated form of weaponized autism, some sperg takes it an order of magnitude further
How have I not seen this in the five years since it was posted

>>10699963
how have you not seen this? im a genuine newfag and i know what this is

>>10690698
>usually (((French)))

>>10699602
what if anon was UTV all along :O

>>10692811
I was a young under age b8 when I first came to 4chan years ago, right before the dawn of the fappening, /pol/s cuckening, and gamergate.

By God I was completely in love with this site, everything about it screamed brilliance. And I watched the years roll by and I grew up on this site and witnessed everything this post had. And even now I know in my heart, that those early days of 4chan years and years ago were significantly better.

I remember when /b/ was one the craziest places on the internet for me, and now its just a porn dump.

I miss how this place used to be.

>>10695383
>wtf did they expect out of very watered down christianity anyway, stop getting your education out of children's genre fiction in your 20s, and read a book that isn't part of a series once in your lifetime
Please elaborate. I got lost at "Stop getting..."

>>10696644

>>10695634
What happened to the anons who made the ages of gold and silver? Where could we find them now?

>>10700761
You sound like a newfag.

I don't like you.

>>10699220
what do you mean

>>10700785
I'm a fag, but not a new one, although I'm new to /lit.

>>10699602
Beautiful.

>>10691656
AHAHAHA

>>10691656
up-boate friendo

tip*

>>10698735
I bet that canal stinks like a sewer. BeatrIce was an ape and Dante a creepy loser who is famous for shitting out a dumb power fantasy.

>>10700507
>>10695226

>>10692629
audibly kek'd

>>10697046
Sidevote?

>>10692811
>tfw you'll never get to experience the golden age of /lit/

>>10698986
this but unironically

>>10690726
>the translated poetyc by edda
this shit always triggers me

>>10692811
it's funny because having a facebook meme miner thread is the very example of /lit/'s death

>>10690767
Is there actually a book about a guy who wakes up with a knob on the back of his head, or have I just read this pic so often that I've internalized it?

>>10691716
>mfw reading this gave me frisson

>>10692236
>>the real repressed minority is the people who can't get a one-night stand
>boo fucking hoo, I've never been laid and you don't see me bitching about it (much)
I don't think the post in the screenshot is portraying tinder onenightstands as a good thing

>>10692629
oddly enough the fidget spinner is an apt analogy for the trinity, however indecorous.

>>10692811
What actually made this place good?

>>10699602
literally one of the funniest fucking things I have ever seen

>>10691044
Here's the version without the laugh track

>>10701548
scream track

>>10699602
>That was 5 years ago...

>>10701417
The closest analogue I can think of is The Metamorphosis

>>10690738
How can writers be so oblivious? It's like when JK Rowling opens her mouth and says stupid shit.

Funny thing is this isn't even new. Socrates gave up and just figured there was supernatural inspiration for artists since they clearly don't understand their own work in a real way.

>>10690744
I'm not even about to try and read through that to make sense of it. But memes are quite democratic. Many more are created than survive and they rely on ridiculous humor. Humor is subversive and the left currently controls what is and isn't acceptable. If it was the other way around memes would serve them.

>>10692580
ouch

>>10691689
>his figs
Yes, I would be guffawing in ecstasy if this donkey did that to my "figs"

>>10690566
i dont get it. someone explain this please, brainlet here

>>10692580
holy shit in so fucking glad i quit school

>>10690602
tooooop kek

>>10692580
I don't want to be the 80%. This year (my second) I'll be a good boy and do my homework diligently!

>>10699326
that was such a cringy thread, one of the worst ive seen on this board in a while

>>10692982
The Allatians believe that they have a writing system superior to all others. Unlike books written in alphabets, syllabaries, or logograms, an Allatian book captures not only words, but also the writer’s tone, voice, inflection, emphasis, intonation, rhythm. It is simultaneously a score and a recording. A speech sounds like a speech, a lament a lament, and a story re-creates perfectly the teller’s breathless excitement. For the Allatians, reading is literally hearing the voice of the past.

But there is a cost to the beauty of the Allatian book. Because the act of reading requires physical contact with the soft, malleable surface, each time a text is read, it is also damaged and some aspects of the original irretrievably lost. Copies made of more durable materials inevitably fail to capture all the subtleties of the writer’s voice, and are thus shunned.

In order to preserve their literary heritage, the Allatians have to lock away their most precious manuscripts in forbidding libraries where few are granted access. Ironically, the most important and beautiful works of Allatian writers are rarely read, but are known only through interpretations made by scribes who attempt to reconstruct the original in new books after hearing the source read at special ceremonies.

>>10699602
This is such obvious bait desu.

>>10691656
FUCK

>>10691689
does anyone have the faceapp version

>>10691700
>german "intellectuals"

>>10692580
I am a spoiled brat whose parents shelled out $50,000 to put me through an English degree. College was a joke. I never heard of anybody failing. I applied myself to my studies but it didn't matter one way or another. By my final year I began to notice the professors getting bored as I did, and I realized all along lectures have been full of THEIR cut corners, full of THEIR glances at the clock. Professors are not noble intellectuals but grown up bourgeois children. Lessons are reduced to memorizable bullet points. We learn the functions of an equation without understanding its inner workings. College is exactly the false learning Kierkeegard spoke of. There is no societal progress in learning. Taking bullet points on the canon and reducing everything to the hashing out of dialectics teaches you nothing but how to attend College.

I have not had a day of hard work in my life. I am not rich enough to be a credit card hedonist but bourgoise enough to be completely soulless and indifferent to everything. The bourgoise hate me for wasting my potential, the proles hate me for being a smug pampered bourgoise. I am a superfluous man. I have no dignity at all.

>>10701417
in kafkas diaries theres a short "story"/scene where a guy wakes up with a sword along his spine, the hilt sticking out at the back of his head

>>10701417
There is, though I'm still working on it.

>>10702281
You should know that the professors who go through the motions like that are now incentivized to do so. They are paid on salary and if they have tenure there's no reason for them to be stellar teachers. Their livelihood is in their research and publications. Teaching is secondary and compulsory.

I went to an elite uni that had one of the youngest tenured professors in the world. She had to teach a survey introductory course and she was VERY clearly pissed off about it and doing it begrudgingly. At first I thought she was a disgrace but now I think she was just being aboveboard about the whole thing. She recognized how utterly pointless it is to project a humongous powerpoint and condense 500 years of intense philosophical development into a few months of surface-level learning. She was just vocalizing what everyone already knew.

I know this doesn't help you and doesn't really solve your conflict but I just wanted to chime in and say you're not alone. I'm doing a master's degree in the humanities right now on my parents' dime and I feel like a pathetic rodent every day. My only hope is I can somehow pay them back one day. I intend to pursue a career close to my family so I can be there for them when they need me later in life. I don't believe I will be a revolutionary, nor will I synthesize some grand hitherto unknown branch of knowledge. So my ambitions are getting humbler.

>>10690213
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jX60BDHWf8

>>10702213
He still used plenty of hours every day for 3 months so he could troll some fm playing trip on sp. Even if it started out fun and ironic it still is some kind of mental illness.

>>10690213
>>10702541
fucking slayed me

>>10699053
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vgye4SvAzQ

Hope you overcome

>>10691716
idk why but "you're not sure which ship is being referred to" got me pretty good

.

>>10690698
ew

>>10701466
oldfag here. I'll try to explain from my own perception.

I think the main difference (which >>10692811 gives a sound explanation for the reasons, imo) is the insane increase in % of a certain amount of people in the last few years. The "/pol/" type. The "yay 4chan is a place to say nigger without being called out" type, let's call them reddit ppl.

So, for me /lit/ was always a place where people talk about literature/philsophy speaking their minds (or even shitpost speaking their minds, whatever). I think the main reason that people ended up here was because of that. Some "concrete" examples and how the influx of /pol/ ppl changes that:

- You can actually criticize a well regarded work without a bunch of people being afraid of agreeing with it because "muh, what they are gonna think of me" and actually have good discussions about it.
^ reddit ppl are usually just like "gtfo pleb" "lmao" "nigger" or posting the kind of thing above just as "moby dick is shit" without actual discussion

- You can express opinions that you are unsure of and wouldn't express otherwise if it wasn't anon because you are afraid of your "lit cred" among people you know. This also leads to different and interesting kinds of discussions
^ reddit ppl are gonna usually just (you) with memes or do that kind of thing in a "sky is green" way, without any thought

- You can express controversial opinions the same way, leads to good discussions the same wal
^reddit ppl express this kind of stuff just for the sake of edginess and because "here they can" all the time

- You can get pretty good recommendations about everything because of the kind of people this attracts (people who wanna have serious discussions instead of the common sense parroting that you have everywhere else because people are more worried about "cred" than actual discussions. this kind of people tend to know more actual good stuff, specially stuff less famous elsewhere).
^ reddit ppl tend just meme ad nauseam and be edgy when it comes to that

I could go on and on and on, but you get the point. Pretty much any "this is good about /lit/" is worsened by the reddit effect. This used to be a place who used to attract people who are fed up with the common sense parrots, hipster pseuds and "my YA is as good as your literary fiction" type of people and pretty much only that. But now we have reddit as well (the really bad part of reddit).

Did we have shitposting? Yeah. Did we have memeing and >start with the greeks all the way in recommendation threads? Sure. Way less though and they were funny.
I think it's still a good place. We still have the same good and the same bad things. The problem is that we have way less of the good and way more of the bad. And when you have too much of the bad it sorta of stop being funny and becomes annoying. Actual humor here used to be way more funny and original as well, the % of repetition of "edgy fun" has increased a lot as well.

>>10700906
>canal
stop shitposting about shit you know nothing about

>>10703236
As an example, one thing that I have seem that changed A LOT are policital discussions. Imo this board used to be pretty 50-50 left/right wing (or at least both were well represented). I lean pretty heavily to the left, but this was a place that when right wing people talked (all the time tbqh) it would be with actual "good" arguments. And it would generate good discussions. Like, even political opinions that are near absurd for me would sometimes be said here (and rebuted as well) with something that at least resembled good reasoning.

I usually hate political discussions elsewhere, because it's just a big circlejerk where people just reinforce the shallow opinions of anyone that thinks like them, or just "hahaha you're dumb" "hahaha look at this" people who think differently. Here people would say things that completely oppose my views in a way less shallow and more reasoned way and make me actually think about stuff. Or refute my arguments with something that actually makes sense (the same way I would try to do to theirs).
Reddit ppl tend to just meme edgy right wing stuff forever and that's it. Or parrot the same stuff over and over. It's pretty much facebook political discussion with some extra edge added.

This actually used to be one of the few boards where you would be called out for super edgy and unjustified racism or misogyny tbqh. Now the norm is pretty much to do that in meme form. /pol/ is pretty much memes you can't post elsewhere. Political discussion here has to a great extent become that as well.

>>10702304
I don’t believe you. Post dick pics or I’ll know you’re not writing anything.

>>10690936
>Made one of the earliets posts in that thread
>Not in any of the screencaps
It’s horrible to know this sort of pain exists.

>at the Symposium
>sophists everywhere, feet hurt
>pic related offers you mixed wine
>"I- uhh..."
why are you so nervous anon

>>10692811
I’ve always heard /sp/ was so great but what made it great?

>>10703379
For the purest love is that which most begs to be filthy

>>10703236
good post.

>^ reddit ppl are usually just like "gtfo pleb" "lmao" "nigger" or posting the kind of thing above just as "moby dick is shit" without actual discussion
BIG FUCKING SURPRISE the cancer that ate /lit/ can only speak in the language of upvote or downvote.

4chan is still an amazing site, and i have no doubt a lot of what you say is true (I have similar rose-tinted nostalgia for POE-News and IRC channels). when the brainlets move on to the next thing hopefully we can get back to a free and anonymous site of quality. there really is no substitute for 4chan. no registration, no minimum or maximum post length, a completely free and anonymous exchange.

i've noticed some threads on /lit/ especially are so arcane that nobody posts in them. OP or someone will start a discussion and it dies for lack of ability in the readers.

>>10690773
every time

>>10703379
noice

>>10691700
top bantz

I've browsed this board since 2010 and it's about the same as it always was. Maybe a little bit better because there is a certain degree of self-awareness and elitism that's expected of posters, unlike the earliest days when you had people making South Park references, trollface posts, and Douglas Adams threads

There are many leftists ITT who are resentful about being purged by their ideological equivalents from /pol/. Now that is different. Marxists used to be a lot more common here and much more comfortable sharing off-topic leftist viewpoints in attempts at on-topic threads, but they've since been pushed to leftypol and the backwaters of /his/. Some still hang around and poke their heads up occasionally, and they make their whiny voices heard in meta threads like these.

Anyways, they are doing their best to craft this narrative that the days of Brownbear and I'm a huge Orson Welles were some sort of Enlightenment-era French salon where people regularly discussed the complexities of Kant and didn't scoff at black literature. Then, the story goes, pol ruined everything and forced everybody to roll their eyes at Zora Neale Hurston and watch Jordan Peterson interviews with Joe Rogan.

This is just not true. Don't believe me? Check the archive.
>>>>/lit/thread/S426778
There has always been an undercurrent of racism and rightist thought on 4chan, it's just more explicit now

>>10690698
>>10690682
no offence but these suck and you're a faggot lol

>>10697928
The inevitably of death is no excuse for living an unfulfilling life. The search for purely physical or carnal pleasures is fine in moderation, but there are better things to do with our time.

>>10702281
>>10692580
>t. anons that never went to a rigorously intellectual college

>>10699162
Many New York communities became middlebrow and predictable through gentrification.

>>10693782
>cum-stained copy of freakonomics
that's grand

>>10703678
this thread was still more fun to read than similar contemporary ones. I'm not convinced oldfag, post more links.
>ZING!

Backlog is already enormous, so why not?

>>10690682
>>10690698
a bad joke if to mock postmodernists
a bad joke if to mock anti-postmodernists view of post-modernists

you guys realize that by replying to that postmodernist comic so much, you have all guaranteed that it will be re-posted here forever.

>>10693782
>tfw information systems major and philosophy minor
>sort of the best of both worlds
Should I take another minor in computer science or English? CS runs concurrent with my major degree so I'd have to take less classes to get the minor. I have no solid plans for a career and want to be an actor or director.

>>10690932
this is how's my brain thinking lately, am i fucked?

>>10697941
nice.

>>10699715

>>10702616
I have been posing as a supporter of a team I don't even like for nearly a year on /sp/
It's just funny