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Sup /b/ros
What book has the best break down of the trinity?

>> No.10665818

>>10665816
Catechism

>> No.10665820

>>10665818
Not a book

>> No.10666745

>>10665816
Augustine on the trinity, but read Augustine's Sermon 52 first as it functions as a summary of his whole trinitarian thought.
Also the relevant sections of Barth I guess.

>> No.10666860

>>10665816
lmao dude they ARE all the same thing because their not REEAAALLLLL

>> No.10668558

>>10666745
Doesnt he only do it from a christian stand point?

>> No.10668635

>>10665820
What purpose does an anal pedant like you serve?

>> No.10668659

>>10668635
I understand the trinity intuitively, and it's really cool to see where else it shows up.

>> No.10668665

The Quran, you fucking polytheist

>> No.10668677

>>10668665
Im not a polytheist.
I have my own God, and belief system that I have created.

>> No.10668709

>>10668659
Firstly, not sure how your comment applies when we were talking about the Catechism not being a book.
Secondly,
>I understand the trinity intuitively
really? C'mon man... Don't let hubris get the best of you lol
Even the Church can't pinpoint the mystery of mysteries

CCC 234
"The mystery of the Most Holy Trinity is the central mystery of Christian faith and life. It is the mystery of God in himself."
And you say you understand it intuitively, not through intense study and contemplation.
Cmon bruv

>> No.10668714

>>10668659
>Trinity
>intuitive
You don't understand the Trinity.
>>10665816
Focus on the historical development of the doctrine. I find that the best way to study the Trinity is through a negative approach, looking at the various heresies that arose and how each opposes the orthodox conception of the Trinity. Read about the councils, the creeds, and how they opposed Arianism, Monophysitism, Modalism, Adoptionism, Tritheism, and all the rest. Know the common analogies for the Trinity- water/ice/steam, father/son/husband, three-leaf clover, etc., and be able to explain which heresy each is implicitly endorsing. Familiarize yourself briefly with the debate over the Filioque.
And watch this video, because it's funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQLfgaUoQCw

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>>10668709
>>10668714
I don't care if you believe me or not.
But I understand the form of the trinity and how it the aspects are all related to each other.

I'm not looking for just the trinity as God, Son, Spirit, but the other forms it also presents its self as.

>> No.10669293

>>10668709
>>10668714
If the Trinity is so hard to understand, then why isn't it ever directly discussed in the Bible? You would think some newfag church would write to Paul for help understanding it. Instead everybody seems to understand it implicitly. Maybe it's more intuitive than y'all are making it out to be.

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>> No.10669316

>>10665816
Hegel's philosophy of religion
at lest if you aren't obsessively trad religious

>> No.10669350

>>10669315
>unironically people actually look like this in the current year

>> No.10669388

>>10669350

people don't choose their face anon

>> No.10669442

>>10665816
not the Bible HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Caths BTFO'd into 3018

>> No.10669504

The Trinity is a relational entity, explained by an Aristotelian conception of substance. God is a single perfect substance, but his perfection necessitates a relation of love within the one substance. John tells us that God is Love. This is to be taken literally - if God was only the Father, how could he be equated with love? The person of the Father loves the person of the Son who loves the person of the Holy Spirit etc. From this proceeds the love of creation as well.

t. not a Christian but I read some scholastics, if you accept the basic propositions then the Trinity is not a big deal