/lit/ - Literature

>>10645204
I really don’t like him
It’s not that I hate him but I just don’t like him. His voice is annoying, he seems like the type to give you a lecture, and his face is unattractive. I have nothing against him trying to get people to self improve but his fans are really annoying

>>10645204
well, Nietzsche did get BTFO'd couple times.

Peterson would've never needed antidepressants had he only read Nietzsche and not everyone who BTFO'd him.

>>10645215
He's a plebian's idea of a genius. Think of people who think Blade Runner 2049 is a good movie, those are his fans.

>>10645223
baiting pretty hard aren't we, mr. leftie nihilist?

Saying yes to life - trying to make the best of a bad situation - is a race to the bottom.

I dislike how he accepts the Schopenhauerian diagnosis of life but then goes on with 'well you know eh got to have bloody kids! life is suffering so lets pass it on eh!" with no justification.

>>10645229
I'm not left wing nor am I a nihilist.

Get better taste, pleb.

>>10645215
>he seems like the type to give you a lecture
You mean like a professor?

>>10645204
comprehending the ubermensch does not make you into the overman.

>>10645263
No like in the middle of a conversation

>>10645204
>Claims to read Nietzsche
>Is a christian mainly because of its set morals
so this is the power of a pseud....

>>10645255
He did a debate with David benatar on anti Natalism and his lack of philosophical sophistication, predictably, got exposed.

>>10645330
I've yet to listen to that.

Benatar also did one with Sam Harris in which I found Benatar a bit frustrating in his carefulness.

He wouldn't even push the 'kill everyone painlessly in their sleep' button.

>>10645330
link for the lazy:
http://cliffcentral.com/renegade-report/renegade-report-jordan-b-peterson-david-benatar/

also fun to see normie level reasoning in the comments

> singh99@gmail.com • a month ago
>Benatar is very nihilistic in his worldview. scary! I do not agree with other people's assessment that Dr. Peterson lost this discussion.

the front page will be only peterson threads and you will know our suffering

>>10645204
I like anime

>>10645204
do you have anything to share with /lit/ other than talking about YOUTUBE VIDEOS? read a book

>>10645330
It wasn't until this debate that I really started disrespecting Peterson. His arguments were embarrassing ("I have a daughter who suffered a lot, and if we were to ask her if she'd prefer not to have been born, she'd say No") and dishonest (First ten minutes: "Life is suffering", last ten minutes: "I never said that life is suffering").

>>10645593
I like anime

>>10645603
Yeah, that's very clever. Keep it going. It's gonna accomplish a lot.

What are some good (if any) counterarguments to Peterson's position on postmodernism/neomarxism?

>>10645623
reading a book and not being a slave to whatever mass media chose to force feed you this month.

>>10645623
Everyone that understands postmodernism knows that jordan has never even read a "postmodernist" book, his philosophical basis is fucking tragic
This faggot literally considers himself a rational person but doxxes people and tweets out their personal facebook accounts on his twitter

>>10645623
he doesn't even comprehend what marxism is, let alone neo-marxism.
he's an ignorant hack who, surprisingly (hah!), is a psychology professor.

>>10645643
>This faggot literally considers himself a rational person but doxxes people and tweets out their personal facebook accounts on his twitter
Not really seeing the inconsistency there. Is it "irrational" to post people's Facebook on Twitter?

>>10645623
All responses to this will be nonspecific garbage.

>>10645651
I admit the use of rational is pretty bad
I guess what i meant was a person who considers himself a ethical, moral man that always looks at both sides of the argument and never would dare to send his angry teenager fans to harass someone

>>10645447

Does Benatar make Utilitarian-Materialist arguments? Those are usually awful. It is useless to reject the world inasmuch as it hurts you but to otherwise agree with its ostensibly good parts.

>Peterson is such a hack, he never even read Carl Mark's The Capitol
The only thing more pseud than Peterson is the average anti-Peterson fag.

>>10645682
no, and if you are familiar with the antinatalist position you will know that it is irrelevant whether life is "good" or "bad"

>>10645686
he is critiquing something that he doesn't understand nor has he probably even read it
This is literally what he argues against doing, he is not only a hack but a hypocritical hack

>>10645623
I like anime

>>10645691
What? Surely the basis is that suffering outweighs pleasure.

>>10645723
I like anime

>>10645710
>>10645736
anime is a superstimulus. like sugary snacks and porn, it rots your incentive structure

>>10645691

I don't agree with perpetuation of any kind but the Antinatalist argument seems to be more against particular aspects of life - work, disease, terror - and the claim that life is a net loss because of such things rather than the argument that life is fundamentally wrong in and of itself.

Stop replying to youtube threads. Or keep replying and flood them with cancer. Fuck youtube. Fuck mass media. Fuck low attention span faggots who have to be force fed everything. Have some dignity

>>10645785
>I'm the one who has been responding with "I like anime" over and over again, but apparently no one gave me the attention I so rightfully deserve, so here's my more explicit take on things: I'M MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GONNA TAKE THIS ANYMORE!

Reminder that suicide will provide no relief if you are lukewarm and base your decision on a tally of sorts whereby you conclude that you mostly want to do it but could still conceive of not wanting to do it were things quantitatively different.

>>10645223
Blade Runner 2049 isn't a bad film. It's far better than Three Billboards or The Shape of Water or any other shitty movies from 2017.

>>10645816
kys

I'm so glad i found a board on 4chan dedicated to discussing my favorite e-celebrity!

>>10645261
I've always heard that Bladerunner 2049 was an adequate film

>>10646193
Adequate and dull, like Drive. There is nothing terribly bad or good to be found.

>>10645672
to be fair I think the "other side" started the whole doxxing/public shaming thing

>>10645330
it's kind of impossible to argue with. Before you discuss anti natalism you kind of need to agree on how you even get there in the first place

>>10645447
Is Peterson at all able to view things in a detached manner?

>>10646319
Jordan has 423k followers, with a ton of borderline insane children being in his fanbase there is an obvious intention of targeted harassment.
as for public shaming one needs to remember that jordan is a public character with a shit ton of support and these students are literally just some 20 year olds

>>10646078
>blade runner better than three billboards

Please elaborate

has he read Deleuze?

>>10645655
This

>>10645634
ie "read my neo-marxist frankfurt school buddies until you agree with them!!!"

HOW COME 90% OF ALL PETERSON THREADS ARE PETERSON HATE THREADS? DON'T YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO?

>>10646535
Deleuze is half-useful half retarded nonsense from a schizo dipshit suffering from narcissistic personality disorder

>>10645280
>Reading Nietzsche means accepting everything he says as unquestionable fact

>>10646078
You didn't like The Shape of Tolerance?

>>10645204
Does he use anti depressant?