/lit/ - Literature

>>10618179
Context?

I'm currently reading his book on Nietzsche and I can say with sufficient certainty that he's a hack.

It's railroad, not roulette, you faggot, there's another TMV song with roulette in it

>>10618198
expand; i accuse you of hackery in your hack-labeling

great thread

>>10618211
so...this is the power of a body without organs...

From all those threads about him i never got a clear picture of what he wants or what his vision of the world is. Is it time to actually read his books?

>>10618179
Where's the lost chapters at?

>>10618569
Found em.

>>10618576

>>10618179
I don't know but exoskeletal is an excellent word

>>10618179
Is he in the Death Grips?

>>10618453
He loves to state the obvious in unnecessarily convoluted language while namedropping Freud a lot.

>>10618635
>Nietzsche and philosophy
>Convoluted
lmao

>>10618635
jejejejejejjeje

>>10618676
Is he watching some lobster cuck him?

>>10618670
you’re a pseud
>>10618693
the lobster thing is a forced meme

>>10618699
Seriously how the fuck is Nietzsche and philosophy "convulted"? Maybe it's because of the nice introduction written by Vattimo I have in my copy but I found it pretty digestible.

>>10618622
is that Finn Wolfhard?

>>10618705
This anon is right. The section on the eternal return with the dice-throwing is pretty out there, but other than that the book is really clear. Some have actually accused Deleuze of giving too systematic a reading of Nietzsche considering all the uncertainties of his philosophy. Deleuze might do some weird shit with Guattari's, but his figure based works are usually just solid readings

>>10618731
they just cant deal with it
for them it is just le wile to power and crush the weaks
mein gott i just got infuriated

>>10618747
>>10618731
>>10618705
i wanna gas all of you for being annoying

you're reading deleuze and you still believe in meaning? lol

>>10618771
anon dont worry it will make sense someday
dont expect to be 12 and to understand almost the pinnacle of western thought (pinnacle as long as it is almost contemporary)

is like quantum mechanics u need first newton
.

>>10618782
kek
he probably hasnt checked her rhizomes yet

Logic of Sense and Difference and Repetition are his most important works. Fight me AO/ATP/N&P fags.

>>10618179

WOOAAHHH YEEAAHH

>>10618998
Haven't read Logic of Sense but D&R is a masterpiece. It is the key to understanding all his work (including the D&G books). AO is a bit overhyped imo, but ATP is brilliant.

>>10618998
>loved C&S
>cant understand a single fucking thing in D&R because of all the references to philosophers i havent read yet
when the FUCK is my copy of ethics coming in the mail

>>10618731
Spot on. The dice roll stuff sticks around though, it's present in almost all of his work, including the Guattari stuff, but in more subtle ways. The Eternal Return stuff returns (kek) incessantly as well, but that was a rather original contribution to how thr Nietzschean concept is perceived so I can't blame Deleuze for mentioning it constantly.

>>10618998
Logic of Sense is batshit crazy at times even for Deleuze's standards, but oddly enough it clarifies some other concepts in a really simple language and I actually recommend reading it before or alongside D&R which is very convoluted at times. Just keep in mind that the entire surface - depth dualism, which is the whole point of the book, is abandoned by Deleuze later on (not as concepts but as a dualism).

As for D&R and LoS being more important than AO and ATP, let's just say that if you got the point of Deleuze's project than you'll see why there's a continuity between them and why AO and ATP build and clarify the previous stuff in a manner which isn't obvious enough to make the previous texts more fundamental. N&P is the best intro book to Deleuze and the foundation so it's in this sense the most important work, but not in other ways.

>>10618782
Sense is even better than meaning.

>>10618453
Haqfir?

>>10618510
What he ultimately wanted was to jump out of a window, and that's not really the type of philosopher/psychoanalyst that we should look up to.

>>10619868
> implying we should look up to any psychoanalyst whatsoever

Luckly Deleuze wasn't a psychoanalyst.

>>10618190
rhizomes

>>10619868
Why did he jump?

someone. please.

>>10621643
We've had a ton of threads explaining him in detail. Check the archive.

>>10621619
Testing his line of flight.

>>10621643
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS35vUMhww4
Go watch this.

>>10621827
Deleuze for the Desperate isn't that good as an intro or overall. It's more of a philological approach of following each concept in isolation. There are much better Youtube videos about Deleuze (M. DeLanda, S. Lotringer, N. Widder, Ian Buchanan not the actor, etc.)

>>10621836
Yeah but they aren't comfy.

>>10618179
the schizo aesthetic is truly beautiful

>>10619276
if you don't understand the references to Spinoza, Bergson, Nietzsche, Hume, and Proust, then you didn't really understand C&S

>>10619276
>>10622714
What are the odds that C&S stands for one (possibly random) volume rather than both (AO & ATP) ?

Only plebs say C&S when they mean AO or ATP and not both. Just saiyan.

>>10619599
Lol what?

>>10621800
wrong

>>10618635
>"name dropping Freud"
Absolute brainlet detected

>>10621800
lmao

>>10624312
80 IQ detected

>>10624327
t . 79 iq brainlet.

>>10618179
Was the joke his name? ie "Deleuzed in the Comatorium"

>>10619868
Or look down on, now that he jumped.

>>10618179
he's just throwing random shit together, retards pretend it means something.

>>10624646
He jumped because of a respiratory illness that basically drives people insane for a breath of fresh air. No joke. Hospitals started making sure that patients with that condition were housed on the first floor because there were so many incidents.

>>10625295
Which is brilliant. What more could you want from life?

>>10625295
>hasn't read deleuze
>doesn't know why it looks like word salad because hasn't read deleuze
>doesn't understand deterrritorialization
>doesn't understand what a rhizomatic form of consciousness or philosophy would look like
>doesn't know how become a BwO
very sad