/lit/ - Literature

>>10608097
he looks like he needs a glass of water

>>10608097
You do realize that Nietzsche killed himself right?

Well Nietzsche did love tragedy

>>10608097
Isn't taking self-help advice from a dude on antidepressants like taking dieting advice from a dude that's 300 pounds?

>>10608099
>>10608114
>>10608120
This is what your average christcuck looks like.

>>10608123

>>10608097
>Cries like a bitch
while reading Ayn Rand. That's the saddest part

>>10608240
that's not genetic fallacy it's called being prudent

>>10608097
how the fuck can men cry in front of others? My toxic masculinity won't let me, I only cry silently in my bedroom.

>>10608114
What? No he didn't.

>>10608240
Muh fallacies

Lmao, typical Peterson brainlet

>>10608114
He died of pneumonia, how is that suicide?

>>10608097
Actually a very Nietzschean thing to do

hahahahahah how is crying on camera even real hahahaha just wait till your done crying to record. like nigga wash up and start the recording over again haha

A man that doesn't cry has something wrong with him. A man that cries over petty things also has something wrong with him.

Even Achilles cried.

>>10608304
A man who purposely cries on camera and then uploads it has something SERIOUSLY wrong with him.

>>10608304
I'm too dead inside to cry

>>10608304

>>10608304
Bitch-ass pussy.

Can I get a source on this anti-depressant claim?

>>10608123
why would this negate any advice given?

>>10608460
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A6g_geYeL4U

>>10608097
Looks like he didn't clean his room that day.

Imagine producing a frumpy daughter like this lmao

>>10608468

>Peterson is on the pharma-jew

Do you guys think his dick has stopped working yet?

>>10608477
in that pic he looks like if you took a byronic hero, aged him by 30 years or so, gave him alcoholism and placed him in the modern world. a strange mix of moody darkness and modern ennui

>>10608485
damn that's an impressive chin...is this shopped?

>>10608468
>Okay Mackayla, ready to see what you looked like four years ago?
>I guess so
>Well too bad fatty, here comes the tape

>>10608468
>she's been on anti-depressants since 12

what the fuck

>>10608509
i had a hearty belly laugh at this post

>>10608509
she isn't fat, what's wrong with you

>>10608499
Reeeeddit

>>10608507
No, it's Jewish.

>>10608513
(((Jordan B. Peterson))) experimented on his daughter from a young age with experimental drugs because he's a (((psycho analyst))).

>>10608526
but why tho

>>10608533
dude wat

>>10608513

Shhh, don't question daddy Peterson, daddy wants what's best for you, just give him shekels on Patreon and he will show you the way.

what percentage of psychology students do you think are mentally ill people whose main motivation is trying to understand their own illness? I'd say 100%

>>10608644
anecdotally 100%. My mum used to work on a medical disciplinary board which encompassed psychologists. All of the crazy fucks who had harassment cases against patients were psychologists. One psych called my mum and told her that he would kill himself unless she stopped investigating him. Another was disciplined because he got a flight delayed because he had a temper tantrum about the airline not having PJ's in his size, They're legit a bunch of narcissists and charlatans. Also if a wom*n says she studies psychology just walk away its not worth dealing with that perfect storm of crazy

>>10608123
relevant to the discussion

>There is a false saying: "How can someone who can't save himself save other?" Supposing I have the key to your chains, why should your lock and my lock be the same?"

t. Nietzsche

>>10608097
>>10608468
>Take life advice from me, the man who raised a basketcase daughter who hallucinates and wants to die
>also buy my rug special price of only $3000

Making fun of his daughter and their depression is just fucked up. They endured some of the most fucked up shit and you're making fun of them for that? I wouldn't wish that illness on my worst enemy.

>>10608838
Reeeeddit

>>10608644
I study psychology online so i can only speak for myself since i don't interact with any classmates. I chose to study it simply out of interest in the field. I know i have some mental issues, but those didn't influence my decision (as far as i know). I've lways liked psychology, even before i knew i was fucked up in the head.

>>10608276
underrated

>>10608513
>>10608811
Peterson has shit genes which enable chronic depression. Did you even watch the video?

>>10608097
there's this new self-help book (12 rules or something?) that he might benefit from

>>10608951
yeah, i bet he hasn't even read maps of meaning what a fag

>>10608575
just ignore the redditfags pretending to be /pol/

if he browsed 4chan instead of reddit he would know he needs to power lift to cure depression

>>10609084
he claimed to have benched 225lb.
powerlifting doesn't really cure depression, first of all in some stages of depression it's impossible to make any progress in it, but secondly if it works it's a good self-esteem boos every PR, but eventually you'll reach a plateau and that may actually make things worse, lifting by itself increases stress, failing PR increases it even more.

>>10608369
same crack kills

un ironically: nietzsche would cry on camera today

>>10608132
>Peterson
>christcuck
This has to be bait. Whenever Peterson is asked "do you believe in God?" he responds with "define God," or some other non-answer. If he truly believed in Jesus Christ he would be preaching the gospel instead of hiding behind agnostic bullshit.

>>10608475
underrated af

>>10609134
he's a christian larper

>>10609112
i think it increases the sense of self sufficiency, i wasn’t strictly thinking on the aesthetical consequences (which is good) as a boost of self esteem. focusing on something, ending a set... that helps rewiring. te stress induced by exercise returns its fruits because it rebuilds you stronger.

>>10609134
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIB05YeMiW8

>>10609129
he was too proud and shy and stuck up. i seriously doubt it. he would probably release one video where he discusses some dry historical topic but with some flair, originality, and an air of authority. then shortly after he would become inexplicably embarrassed about it, and in a fuming rage unmerited by the circumstance delete the video, and then delete his youtube account

>>10609141
Yes, he's a larper. He isn't a real Christian.

>>10609141
he knows his target. conservatives and increasingly libertarians signal a lot on christianity as a statement against islam. he’s strategic about that.

>>10609141
he literally is

>>10608644
Kek

>>10608097
https://youtu.be/AgE9rxMZRpw?t=1m37s

Can someone explain to me why this lunatic is taken serious? He literally claims the objective truth behaves as a lie because it doesn't align with his political agenda.

>>10608464
How wouldn't it? Psychology is interesting, but obviously not all facts. If I'm going to believe someone, I want examples and results.

i’m browsing rapidly his channel, every title is typical youtube clickbait. i can’t respek him. he’s anti aesthetic af. cringey. i can’t even put into words.

>>10609148
>Do you believe that Jesus rose from the dead?
>............................................................I cannot answer that question.
later
>It depends on what you mean by Jesus.
later
>I would say at the moment I'm agnostic about that issue.
He claims to be a Christian but whenever he gets asked about Jesus's resurrection he gets extremely wishy-washy. Like >>10609141 said, Peterson is a Christian larper.

>>10609192
I know, if he owned up that historically there is evidence that Jesus was resurrected, perhaps I would take him more seriously.

>>10609149
he would obsess over a detail where he thinks he might be seen as naive person by trolls, get embittered about that, realize he’s overreacting and feel ashamed. he was too sensitive, he wouldn’t resist a day in a world where every word you say goes to an anonymous target who might reflect your image in all sort of ways. he might die of self awareness after one snarky comment.

>>10609144
The period when I fell into severe depression years ago (straight-up psychomotor retardation) was ironically when I was at my strongest and every other girl checked me out. If someone is in trouble because of no friends, regret over academic choice, bad financial situation and so forth, like I was, their main priority should be to fix those problems and not use lifting as escapism, like I did. Not saying people shouldn't lift, they should, it's great, just not a cure.

>>10609209
sorry about that. i was catatonic so exercising, even just walking, was a nice step forward. but i was already in the mindset of actually wanting to get better.

>>10609208
you, my friend, have understood nietzsche. i know nietzsche hated being pitied, but man i feel so sorry for him sometimes it makes me depressed. he was a sad case. very lonely guy.

>>10608249
I only cry in front of my father, but that's only because I love him and feel so goddamned blessed to have a man like him love me.

>>10609192
It's pretty clear he had an experience with hallucinogens in which he met Christ. He'll never say it in public because of his position, but you can piece it together yourself pretty easy. His belief structure is probably far too unorthodox for public opinion, but he probably has a more personal relationship with Christ than you do. Spiritual gatekeeping is an atheists game anyways.

All you people going against Peterson are no different than the Pharisees who went against Jesus and tried to slander his name.

>>10609260
Or he could be pandering.

>claims to be Ubermensch
>cries like little bitch when a horse gets treated like the untermensch he is

>>10609221
he had the most acute, deep mind. i think he functioned very visually in his mind. he gets never unjustifiably verbose even in his most intricate ramblings. he understood instinctively the underlying motives under every persons behavior, their fears, their obsessions. very plutonian, in a sense that he felt deeply whatever was going on but he also felt imprisoned by the intricacies he could understand, probably fearing other people could read him as well as he could about everything. but he was unfortunately cringe made flesh and longed to be loved and accepted perhaps even by people he despised. which was hard being that eccentric and at odds with what it takes to be loved and accepted (a bit more agreeableness than he could offer)

>>10608097
Someone please link the video.

>>10609291
In Canada, you don't have much a Christian base to pander to; he was pretty much doing the opposite by being a leading intellectual who was openly religious. You don't live up here do you?

>>10609309
>longed to be loved and accepted perhaps even by people he despised.
I once saw an excerpt from a letter he wrote in which he said that a minutes conversation with a stranger on the street was enough to convince him of the vanity of his writing, to want to throw it all away. Something like that. I wish I could find it.

>>10608274
Also very Kafkaesque...

>>10608123
nice ad hominem you made.

>>10608252
i`m psychologist, a fucking lot of colleagues have mental health problems, even depression, that doesn´t stop them to scientifically give aid to others, you a re a pleb, next time you find you are sick please seek for a 100% healthy doctor, fag.

>>10609403
>"just follow these twelve easy steps to overcome your problems"
>is on medication for depression
>self help author
>can't help himself
there is something wrong with this picture, it's not a fallacy

>>10609417
>misspelled the name of the guy who did the illustrations because he didn't give a shit; just give me the money bruh

>>10609403
true help can be given only by monks who successfully overcame all sins, not by a sinner.

>>10609352
would be nice. i’ve read all his works but never digged into his personal literature

>>10609403
he clearly isn’t in the position to give help, just look at his target which is mostly libertarian tards failed yuppies. if he actually was looking out for people to help would care more about the traps he treats with condescension.

>>10609450
oh, come the fuck on, get the fuck out with your hippie false deeper bullshit

>>10609486
pretty sure he's being sarcastic

>>10609475
he can't become a best-seller trying to help 0.3% of the population

>>10609134
Even if he were a full Christ(cuck)ian like yourself, it would still be bad, Christcuck.

>>10609511
so he baits to whiny bullies with a martyr delusion about flymon os peach

>>10609403
>i`m psychologist
stop larping, you arent

>>10609403
being psychologist and being depressed is like being a dietologist and being obese or anorexic

>>10609198
Lol

>>10608838
What did they endure? Any particular tragedies?
As far as I know she grew up in a first world country with a rich daddy. There are people who've had it much worse yet don't go around attention whoring

>>10609286
kike

>this one eunuch who can't stop trying to tarnish the name of a successful psychologist on the back-end of an imageboard
Why?

>>10609720
That's rhetorical, by the way. I think we all know it's because you're upset that someone in a position of power isn't pandering to your mental illness.

>>10608644
I thought I was studying psychology due to intelectual curiosity and wanting to be useful to others. But then I tried to off myself and am now being medicated for depression.

>>10609720
WHAT IS UP, FELLOW KEKBOY!? Did you get your sweet new Peterson book? CODE PEPE!!

>>10608132
what the fuck is this drama-quenn's problem?

>>10609417
not sure why there's so much hate for this guy
He's not an incel like half the people on this board. He's got a good family, a stable marriage, and a good source of income.

Peterson has a genetic predisposition for clinical depression so it isn't really his fault. he's done everything he can do. He also said that he came off the antidepressants

>>10609450
We are all siners. God doesn't save us because we deserve it, but because he loves us. But you have to accept his love and try to love others because God loves them too.

>>10609720
Guy is an obvious charlatan. Amazing how successful he’s been duping people.

>>10609774
He’s not even sorted out bucko. I bet his room is dirty af.

>>10608097
Why hasn’t this loser killed himself yet?

>>10609771
THE MADMAN DID IT
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/851464151708950528?lang=es

>>10608123
>isn't getting advice from a person with the exact flaw you're seeking to get rid of a bad idea

I'd say no, depending on if it's justified

Surgeons deal with patients who have godlessly unfortunate illnesses and ailments.
Some people have just seen some shit. most advice is for the speaker and not the receiver.

memento mori meme and all that

>>10609815
this can't be real

>>10609815
Time to kill myself, again

>>10608249
I only cried when my dog died

>>10608794
>put on your own oxygen mask before assisting others

t. people that don't want to die for stupid reasons

>>10609815
>modern philosophers
Humanity is a disgusting species.

>>10609815
So this is the world we live in...

>>10608123
not really, since he says he recommends taking antidepressants if they help you. it's actually just being consistent.

>>10609927
>>10609903
>>10609838
>>10609836
>Not escaping from the underworld

>>10608304
>even a psychopathic murderer cried
wtf i love crying now

>>10608123
If the 300 pound guy actually dates, his advice is more valuable than a good looking guy's. Because it means he has actual game. You must be retarded to not get that.

>>10609681
juvenile rheumatoid arthritis that basically crippled her for years. imagine being a kid and being in excruciating pain for days on end and not being able to play. iirc she had a total ankle replacement at 12 or something.

>>10609192
he waffles on the christian question. in an interview on quillette released yesterday he said he doesn't call himself a christian.

>tfw i could heem every here

>>10610012
Diets, retard. Not dates. Petersonfags literally can't even read.

>>10608485
Don't let those boys on /pol/ tell you that your dick is small because you received vaccinations as a child. It's just small because you're a little guy.

>>10609352
jesus he was fucked. dude just needed to shoot the shit with baker and slap a hoe's ass. i know he was adamant about not drinking and "no fun" in general.

>>10610096
>i know he was adamant about not drinking and "no fun" in general
he suffered from a ton of illness so he didnt have much choice in that regard. tons of migraines, vomiting, deteriorating eyesight, sensitive stomach, etc

>>10609141
>>10609151
>>10608132
>Doesn't believe in Christ beyond a social tool
>Is a Christcuck
wat, ur like a little babby

>>10608097
But Nietzsche was a total bitch.

>>10608123
not really, as they'll often be knowledgeable and experienced in the topic.

>>10608249
I haven't cried since I was like 12. I got emotional expression and investment beaten and bullied out of me since birth.

>>10610216
pathetic

>>10609863
t. brainlet

>>10609447
Lol are there illustrations in the book. for babies who cant read yet

>>10608513
I went on anti-depressants and anti-anxiety meds when I was 10. I'm 20 now and I slowly stopped taking them when I turned 19. The meds helped, but only a little bit.

>>10609186
populist.

>>10608468
lmfao this kills the individualist

>>10608644
I just became a clinical psychologist a year ago. I was fucked up in the head, but I was able to sort myself out almost completely when I was in my early 20's. I didn't start going to college until I was 24. I decided to get into psychology because I was interested in the topic and I thought I had an unique perspective. A lot of my classmates were fucked in the head too. Some of them had things under control, but there were a lot who were still looney. One of my classmates killed himself in his dorm room during my junior year. I didn't know him that well, but supposedly he was bipolar and had mommy issues.

>>10608811
>the man who raised a basketcase daughter who hallucinates and wants to die
Yes, certainly he raised her in such a way as to engender hallucinations. It's hard to approve of what's in that video, but some of you guys are right out of the intellectual gutter

>>10610461
what's your specific degree and where did you get it? are you analytically trained?

>>10608240
The argument in that example appears to be perfectly valid, doing something because a fortune cookie tells you so is ridiculous.

>>10608838
>>>/reddit/

>>10608468
Will she inherit the cult, is she the next in the line of succession?

>>10608468
>punished peterson: a hero denied his meds

>>10608249
It's ok to cry, this is just a big cosmic joke.

>>10609450
Show me a monk that overcame his sins. Even priests are imperfect.

>>10608477

>tfw you will never marry Mikhaila in order to obtain best dad

>>10609792
why are you talking in 3rd person

>>10610692
this is "i know you are but what am i" tier humor

>>10608123
its almost worse since the guy who is 300 isn’t fucked for life, he can change. the person on anti-depressants is already dead. their brain will never ever recover

>>10610696
it still managed to get a reply out of you so i'm leaving with a full stomach.

>>10610170
this. lost his shit over a horse.

>>10609782
You can say this for Tao Lin and Jimmy Dore but /lit/ never goes there.

>>10609403
>psychology
>scientifically
pick one my dood

>>10608304
> and swift-footed brilliant Achilleus looked on him in pity, / and spoke to him aloud and addressed him in winged words: 'Why then / are you crying like some poor little girl, Patroklos," (16.5-7)
Even Achilles knew crying was for little bitches.

>>10610776
>Even Achilles knew crying was for little bitches.
he did more crying in the iliad then any other character

>>10610781
He spent the first half of the Iliad pouting like a child and putting all his comrades at risk because Agamemnon cucked him, and then he spent the second half murdering the entire Trojan army in a temper tantrum over the death of his boyfriend, which was indirectly caused by his previous pouting. Achilles was more of a little bitch than any other character.

>>10608123
my sister who is an MD says that genius professors also tend to be heavy smokers

>>10610906
So do retarded bums.

>>10610917
the point being the most prestigious professors in medicine being heavy smokers does no discredit to their expertise

>>10609403
>giving aid to others
>not being able aid oneself

wait wait wait how about not jumping over the topic faggot. your fucking colleagues can rip off depressed idiots for money, but if they can't even help themselves, their help is very questionable

>MUH DEPRESSED MAN CAN'T BE A PSYCHOLOGIST

lol fuck off you cunts. Do you not realise that the depressed have actually thought about the mind and therefore have a better understanding?

Would you rather take road safety advise from someone who has never been in a car crash to someone who has?
Would you rather take sexual health advise from someone with no STD or someone with HIV?
Would you rather take reading advise from someone who was illiterate until the age of 20 or someone who was blessed with reading from the beginning?

The answer to all 3 is obvious. You want advise from people who have been where you are, and are where you are heading and therefore know how to avoid it. The advise 'please be careful when shaving your ballsack' is more meaningful coming from a man with blood pouring down his legs than a man with a perfect hairless crotch. Maybe some of the retards here need to reconsider their positions.

>>10611098
it's simple:
peterson markets self help methods.
he's depressed.
therefore his methods don't work, or atleast work well enough to produce results for their own author. that does not inspire confidence in the methods.

>>10610216
based

>>10610950
this post is without meaning

>>10611098
this was an incredibly stupid post. You take advice from people who have made good choices that have prevented harm. After the fact it is too late.

>>10611098
>The advise 'please be careful when shaving your ballsack' is more meaningful coming from a man with blood pouring down his legs than a man with a perfect hairless crotch
heh

>>10608872
>Peterson has shit genes which enable chronic depression
aren't genes just a meme?

>>10609221
he looked so awkward, it's weird that the only picture where he looks like a normal human being was taken when his brain was already completely mushy and destroyed, and his sister had propped him up to display to her Nazi friends

>>10610734
>Jimmy Dore
doesn't he get like 50 views per video?

>>10608477
oh stop it shes cute
i like her

>>10610863
Until he learns some humility and better judgement.
You know, one of the major points of the story.

>>10611270
yes, nobody is criticizing the story, anon was just showing how retarded it is to use Achilles as an outstanding example of non-crying men

>>10611213
No, memes are social genes. To quote my old lecturer, "Volleyball is a meme."

>>10608249
This.

>>10610007
>psychopathic murderer
Soldier*

>>10611619
I wouldn't say social. The original notion is 'idea gene', which is far more accurate. Hermits can have memes and be infected with new ideas they then begin to spread, you know. Social viruses carry and disturb the memes, this is perhaps the better way to look at it. Hence we can be influenced by dead societies and their memes.

>>10611098
Just because someone walked the wrong path doesn't mean that they know what's the right path. The answer to your questions is not obvious at all, I'd lean to take the opposite option of yours.

>>10611228

So Nietzsche staged a photo were he is a symbolic horse pulling the carriage of known super-slut Lou Salome, a woman he was desperately in love with, and she is presenting a whip and a devious expression.

This picture just screams femdom fetish, and yes, it was staged by Nietzsche himself. Could it be that this inclination lies behind the insufferable pseudomartial bravado of his writings, that they were a way to distance himself from an obscure realization that he was in fact a slave by nature, and absolutely loved it? Could it be that the infamous Turin horse finally made him realize what he had been all along, finally made him reconcile his nature with himself, but the force of the collapse of the aristocratic persona he had spent a lifetime of writings building up snapped his mind?

>>10609774
>not sure why there's so much hate for this guy
>He's not an incel like half the people on this board. He's got a good family, a stable marriage, and a good source of income.
that's probably why

>>10611752
>>10609774

You seem to be misunderstanding. The hate of Peterson is derivative. It is hatred of Petersonfags and Petersonthreads that is primary. Shitting on the idol is not done out of ill-will towards the idol, it is done to anger the worshippers.

>>10611758
this tbqh. anything bad i may have written in this thread was just done in the good spirit of shitposting. in reality idgaf about peterson, he seems like an ok guy except for all the money grubbing

>>10611098
>Would you rather take reading advise from someone who was illiterate until the age of 20 or someone who was blessed with reading from the beginning?

Just fucking lol at this larping. You have never, ever taken reading advice from such a person, you pseud.

>>10608249
>toxic masculinity
bitch

>>10608253
he probs got it from frenchin that horse

https://sys.4chan.org/lit/imgboard.php?mode=report&no=10608097

>>10609774
>He's got a good family, a stable marriage, and a good source of income.
you sound like you wanna suck ur dads penis

>>10611872
only fags don't want to suck their dad's penis

>>10611872
stop projecting, degenerate

So, what's his problem this time?

>>10611880
sucking dick isn't gay if you say "no homo"

>>10610680
hesychasm is the closer i can think of. zen masters. generally people who can guide you via accepting rather than exasperating a war against depressed, bipolar angsty teens on tumblr.

>>10610520
It's a bad, needlessly fuzzy example anyway. A more to-the-point one would be:

>Nazi scientists have discovered X
>X cannot be true because it was discovered by Nazis and Nazis are evil

>>10611763
same for me. i don’t think he’s dumb or low iq, certainly he’s a good speaker but i can’t give mad pros just because he’s rich. shall we shut up at rich people?

>>10608132
Except he's crying over Ayn Rand. It's still weird, but not Christian at all.

>>10611952
about what concept is he crying about? i feel bad for him he’s like girls who cry at rupi kaur

>>10609817
Except surgeons are actually trained to do what they have to, proved themselves in exams and can operate anytime while Peterson has to compensate his own failings with his position among the crowd. He's a good man but he's painfully banal and cringy, especially with that carpet selling. In more traditional times he would be great as a priest.

>>10611971
Yeah, but a europe Priest. Selling Beer on the side.

Who better to tell you about some dark places than someone who has been there himself and lived to say "trust me you don't want to go there bucko"?

>>10609309
He felt depressed about his inferiority to Wagner, which was later compounded when the whole masturbation scandal at Bayreuth occurred. This more than anything was what would drive him of the edge.

>>10610696
reddit

>>10612037
He's still there, so it seems like a bad idea to take advice from someone who doesn't even know the way out.

>>10608097
link?

>>10609815
Oh for fuck sake, now I know where all these cancerous Petersonfags come from

>>10611962
>about what concept is he crying about?
the decline of Western man