/lit/ - Literature

What should I read if I like the malazan series? Also what are good, but not dated cyber dystopian books?

>>10587828
Reading GotM, does it ever stop setting up every scene with a some horrible image of a field of rotting baby corpses or some other stupidly grotesque imagery?

third for webnovels are novels too

sanderfag a hack

Ohhh, I still hafta read that thing huh? Got a few days left...

Today is the 25th, meaning the 27th is in two days, meaning that this is the last thread before we get to see if anyone except me actually participated. In the next thread we discuss this story and pick the next one!

>>10587828
>What Have you accomplished for sff so far?
I've finished HG Wells Classic Collection I, the second book in the Farseer trilogy and before the month is over I'll be done with the third and last. I've also bought Roadside Picnic and the Foundation trilogy.

Asked in the last thread but it died. Any sci fi horror recommends? Open to whatever

>>10587930
Didn't read :P
Might read next time or not :3

If I make the next thread I will try to remember to name it Reading Trial Edition and use that pic.

>>10587930
Well, I read it. At least the possibilty of dialogue is set. I guess.

>>10587968
>Didn't read :P
F in pieces.

The 'Trial' is there to indicate that this was a test run lol

>>10587987
>I read it
Disregard Fs, cruising speed regained.

>>10587891
Speaking of webnovels, am I the only one who found most of Wildbow's naming choices for class-S threats infuriating?

>Khonsu should have been Chronos
>Khepri should have been Beelzebub
>Simurgh should have been called Ziz by people other than Tattletale
>Glastic Uaine should have been Mab

>>10587964
>Open to whatever
Taking you up on that. Horrorish I guess, mostly just a dark setting. Fun cover though.

>>10588017
Not the original asker, but is this actually good or is it something you just know of?

Is this a good parody? Like, is it actually worth reading?

>>10586307
>tell us your other 4 before I will consider even looking into this.
Anon asked me this in the last thread, in response to my assertion that A Voyage To Arcturus is in my top 5 /sffg/ books.

In no particular order, except the first being my favourite, my other top 4 are:

Gene Wolfe - The Book of the New Sun
Tolkien - The Lord of the Rings
Philip K Dick - Ubik
Borges - Labyrinths

Probably doesn't help you much. It's a fairly safe list. Moreover, Lindsay's Arcturus is absolutely nothing like any of them. It's very difficult to describe... do you know how when you're reading Book of the New Sun for the first time, at certain points you have no idea what's going on, but you keep reading because of the ideas and vivid imagery and sometimes just the prose? It's sort of like that. It's essentially an exploration of philosophical/religious themes, but completely raw and fantastical.

>>10587964
>Asked in the last thread but it died. Any sci fi horror recommends? Open to whatever

Philip K Dick's "Three Stigmata" is absolutely horrifying.

There's also Roberts' The Meme Itself, but that's more horror as an excuse to explore philosophy.

Three Stigmata is actual horror.

>>10588103
I was about to correct you before I remember that horrifying scene where the protags fucking knee gets pulled out, that was pretty metal

Any recommendations on books like Doctorow's Little Brother and Homeland? Does not have to be YA (better if not, actually), just a fiction book that deals with though internet+law stuff

>>10588001
I know it's a test run.
We could all just chose a book though, make a goodreads group about said book, then shitpost about it to our heart's content.

Looking for a new series of Fantasy books and I was thinking of starting Wheel of Time. Is it good/worth it or should I pass on it?

>>10588169
It would help if you told us other fantasy series that you enjoyed or disliked

>>10588177
Good idea.

Pretty new to reading novels in general but so far I've read and enjoyed: Song of Ice and Fire, Witcher, Stormlight Archives and Lord of the Rings.

So pretty basic shit so far. Been looking for recommendations and a friend told me about Wheel of Time, but I've heard mixed things about it.

>>10588120
For the convenience of anons who haven't read those books, anon here is referring to The Meme Itself.

I'll just underline my own opinion that the above is fairly conventional horror, which Three Stigmata is genuinely one of the most horrific and disturbing things I've ever read. PKD wrote a lot of books, Three Stigmata is the only book that he was unable to proofread once he finished the first draft, because it scared him too much. Apparently he never re-read it.

>>10588225
>which Three Stigmata is
WHILE Three Stigmata is

>>10588017
guy who asked, i'll check it out. thank you!

>>10588103
thanks. i'll check it out.

>>10588200
I haven't read Wheel of Time myself. What I've heard from people is that it starts strong in the first few books and then gets weaker. From my POV it's never been worth the time investment.

>>10588200
Also, as a fan of LotR and Song of Ice & Fire, one of my favourite fantasy series is the Farseer Trilogy by Robin Hobb.

The story spans the trilogy but if you love the world then there's loads of more books set in that world. It's one of my favourite fantasy series. Possibly the best "coming of age" traditional fantasy story imo. Hobb's characterisation is second to none.

>>10587843
Please respond.

>>10588088
thanks for responding. i hated ubik but ive read and loved everything by wolfe and borges. ill give it a go. thanks for the rec.

>>10587891
Another month passed. Big Fatty Zhang and the others trembled in fear, worried that Bai Xiaochun really was killing himself from working too hard. Even as they were working up a plan to go get rid of Xu Baocai, a huge rumbling could be heard coming from Bai Xiaochun’s hut.

As the sound echoed about, the spirit pressure of the second level of Qi Condensation erupted out from the hut, spreading for dozens of meters in all directions. As soon as Big Fatty Zhang and the others sensed it, they looked up with expressions of shock.

“Little Junior Brother has broken through!”

“The second level of Qi Condensation! He hasn’t even partaken of the Ovens’ snack arrangement for more than half a year, and he’s already reached the second level of Qi Condensation! That’s pretty rare!”

“It took me a whole year to reach the second level of Qi Condensation….” Even as they were making exclamations of shock, a crash could be heard as Bai Xiaochun’s door opened, and he burst out, looking exhausted and disheveled. However, his eyes were glittering brightly.

Big Fatty Zhang and the others were just about to hurry over to offer congratulations when Bai Xiaochun flashed through the air and nimbly landed on the bamboo fence that surrounded the Ovens. He clasped his hands behind his back and tilted his head up proudly, looking off into the distance with a profound gleam in his eyes. He looked every bit like a proud, lonesome hero.

Big Fatty Zhang and the others exchanged dismayed glances.

“What is he standing there for? He looks so weird….”

“Did little Junior Brother… get possessed or something?”

Almost as soon as they looked over at Bai Xiaochun and his odd appearance, they heard his voice echoing out, sounding proud and wise.

“Xu Baocai is a consummate Chosen among the servants of the Spirit Stream Sect, matchlessly vicious, and famous far and wide. His cultivation base is even in the terrifying second level of Qi Condensation. However, my cultivation base is also in the second level of Qi Condensation. A fight between us will be an even match. It will likely be a fight talked about in all the lands, a battle that will shake the entire sect. However, it must be fought, no matter how much blood and gore flows, no matter how many bones are shattered and tendons… wait a second. No, this battle is far, far too important. I have to keep practicing cultivation!”

Having finished speaking, Bai Xiaochun looked around for a moment, then flicked his sleeve and returned to his room. The door slammed shut behind him as he began another session of secluded meditation. Big Fatty Zhang and the others swallowed hard, and exchanged glances. Finally, Third Fatty Hei said, “Don’t tell me we gave Junior Brother some spoiled food?”

Second Fatty Huang shivered and replied, “Oh no! This is bad! Junior Brother is drunk on spiritual energy! He’s gone crazy from cultivation…. We mustn’t provoke him now!”

What went so right?

Posting some OC I made a few months back, starting with >>10588567

>>10588584

If I'm looking for generic fantasy adventures, which books in the warhammer setting should I read?

>>10588594

>>10588512
what was meant by this

>>10587843
>cyber dystopian books
The Stars My Destination

>>10587930
i really wanted to but i just started classes again so ive been busy. ill definitely participate in the next one. especially if we get to vote on the book.

Recommend me a book based on this phrase:
>can't rape the willing

>>10588754
Friday, Robert A. Heinlein.

Somebody rec good magic gunfights.

>>10587843
>What should I read if I like the malazan series?
Probably The Black Company and The Drenai Series

>>10588804
there was a good one in https://www.novelupdates.com/series/when-a-mage-revolts/
I think it was around chapter 250 or so
I guess it wasn't technically a gunfight since only one side had a gun but I think it counts

>>10588512
xianxia writing style:
protagonist: "hey you, what is the name of that city over there?"
farmer: "oh, that's Big City Name"
protagonist: "Big City Name?!?!"
narrator: "Xen Shaofeng's eyes glowed with a ferocious glow, for Big City Name was the home of the legendary cultivation school Thousand Purple Cauldrons"

>>10587964
Hull zero three
Metro 2033
The Strain by Del Toro
Clive Barker

i made a thread but i think it belonged here instead

so this:

>Among the sovereign Demons with explicit access to this world, Doom scarcely bothers with the affairs of Noninfernals and Lesser Spectral Consorts, while Shadow Fiend passes through almost exclusively on collecting expeditions. The Shadow Demon, however, has always taken a deep and abiding interest in the material plane, as if sensing that mastery of this gritty dimensional nexus might be the key to total domination of all realities. Summoned first by minor wizards, the Shadow Demon granted every wish and put on increasingly impressive displays of power until he had the full attention of the greatest demonologists, and through them the various lords, tyrants, autarchs and hierophants who depended on sorcery to buttress their mundane power. So great was his deception that all his summoners considered themselves the master and Shadow Demon the servant; meanwhile, he eroded their identities and made their minds his own. In the end, most members of the cult were hollow puppets, extensions of his evil will. What Shadow Demon's next step would have been remains open to speculation, for around this time, Nevermore the Shadow Fiend bit into a particularly nasty-tasting soul and discovered that it held nothing but a foul nougat of Shadow Demon's essence. Alerted that a coup was underway, and that the ancient equilibrium of the Umbral Pact was about to be destabilized, Doom and Shadow Fiend briefly joined forces to destroy the burgeoning cult. Combining spells of incredible force, they undid Shadow Demon's centuries of patient work, reducing his cult to smithereens--and all its members to a bloody splatter. Nothing remained except a tiny speck of demon shadow. Immortal and irreducible, this mote of evil was enough to seed the Shadow Demon's next scheme, and in fits and starts, over further centuries, he began to regroup. Whatever that speck of shadow touched, it tainted, and its influence gradually grew. A chaos of damaged parts pulled together, reknit, and combined to give Shadow Demon a form even stronger than his former. He is all but complete now, and his plan for infinite dominion lacks all of its former weaknesses. It would seem that such a being of pure malice and malevolence, a threat to all creation, would be forever out of place in our world...yet Shadow Demon does not lack for followers.

Is a neat little excerpt from Dota 2's wiki. I don't play the game but I got linked to the wiki by a friend and I've been reading all the biographies of the characters in the game. They are neat little quips and I was wondering if anyone knew of a repository where more stuff like this exists? Short stories maybe? Or just general writing?

>>10588908
scp

>>10588088
>Gene Wolfe - The Book of the New Sun
>Tolkien - The Lord of the Rings
>Philip K Dick - Ubik
Absolute shit tastes. Don't want no recommendations from your pretentious pseud ass.

>>10588169
>>10588200

>>10588512
Whomever wrote this should be shot asap.

>>10588918

how about general sci-fi? scp is good I'm reading it now. is there a broader repository of literature somewhere?

>>10588946
Absolutely not, Bai Xiaochun is the best Xianxia protagonist because he never learns a goddamn thing.

>>10588924
the time has come to reveal your top 5 /sffg/ books

Is there a way to avert this from reaching the natural conclusion?

>vampire hypnotizes autistic kid into luring his friends away and shooting them

>>10589138
i got you pham. here's how you solve this problem:
>tab back into your writing program (word/librewriter/whatever)
>hit ctrl+A
>hit delete
>start writing something less retarded

if you need anything explained further I'm here for you

I'm a newb to /SFfg/, but I've read Dune, Hyperion and Book of the New Sun as they seem the three most shilled sci-fi/fantasy books on this board. What do I go to next after these? (I liked them btw)

>>10589182
Orphans of Chaos.

>>10589182
lotr, sandersmeme, OP shit.

>>10588225
iv read three stigmata. please tell me what i thought of it and what i understood to be its themes

the only stuff that i can think of as being creepy was the barbie drug land thing. but since barbie is hot and i always thought of the song/video barbie girl, it was fun and sort of hot for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyhrYis509A

>>10589193
>>10589190
Tried LotR in the past and didn't care for it, will check out the others, thank you.

Pls rec me the lit equivalent of a B-movie

I'm not necessarily looking for "so bad it's good", but just like crazy out there ideas, kind of semi-surrealistic, outsider fantasy

>>10589407
Dinotopia.

>>10589181
would it sound better if I specified the following?

>the vampire in question is a middle-aged, morbidly obese female warlord
>the killing is politically motivated and serves to end a stalemate
>the autistic kid is one of her dhampir and was chosen specifically because his lack of obvious vampirism, harmless appearance, gullibility and absent grasp of secrecy or subtlety makes him the object of least concern in every situation

>>10589415
Fuck yea buddy totally what I was looking for. Anyone got any more jems?

>>10589107
I don't have any top 5. I've read hundreds upon hundreds of books. Hell, last year I read 101 books. You think I keep track that "these 5 out of the 1200 books I read are my favorite"????

>>10589138
Read Fat Vampire by Adam Rex

>>10589190
*spankings intensifies*

>>10589200
>please tell me what i thought of it and what i understood to be its themes
Low iq anon. I thought you would have killed yourself by now.

>>10589407
>>10589460
Daniel Black
Trysmoon saga

>>10589511
He's probably way happier than you are desu, stop projecting and bullying low iq anon.

>>10589521
Are you the anon that watches William's twitch/whatever? How far along is he with regards to releasing something?

>>10589511
honestly any time iv seen it talked about its put for as one of dicks most nonsense books. i think a radio dj was talking to him about it and said it the perfect example of a drug fueled pkd book because it was so crazy and random but then pkd shoots back that its literally the only book hes ever wrote where he wasnt high off his ass the whole time

im not some common poster as you seem to think i am. i just wanted to see how many buzzwords and silliness /lit/ attacked to it. its a fine book i guess but i think iv read almost all of his other books and like them more

>>10589483

>>10589562
You really think that's bait. I read about 130 books last year. I know it's hard for some poseurs on this board to imagine but there are actually dedicated readers in the world.

You know what's annoying? Having one really fun idea that you want to write a story around, creating a solid story around it with a bunch of characters and themes that feel so perfect...

and then you realize that one idea you started with doesn't fit the rest, so now you've got a story to write, but then you'll have to wait until after that to introduce your flavorkinetic MC who kicks monster ass with applied food science

>>10589495
As a rule, I don't trust any book that puts its breach from cliche in the title is worth the brain cells it costs to read it. though I remember liking abraham lincoln: vampire hunter when I was like 14

>>10589596
Flavor anon... how did you go from molecular tastes to brainwashed autistic children?

>>10589685
It's a long story, but when I first settled on the idea, I thought its uselessness was hilarious and started building off of that by making the MC's journey satirical. Yes, he's the chosen one with magic powers, but the powers are useless, the one doing the choosing was a bastard and the thing he was chosen to do was horrible.

From there I just compounded it by making him act the way any normal person would when they find out about magic and assume he's going crazy. All this shit sort of pointed towards dark fantasy/horror so I tried building into that by having some of the more minor threats into monsters associated with hunger: vampires being a prime example

The problem was, as I built out his conflicts, the people around him, and his personal arc, I found that the first story – which needed to conceal a lot of the other plot elements – was perfectly self-contained and a whole different genre from the rest of what I had planned. In the end it made more sense to make this a different story and just cut away the connections

>TL:DR
The story grew in ways i didn't want it to, but what did grow fit together a lot better than the other stuff I came up with so I decided to cut away the fat and go with what I had

>>10588146
>We could all just chose a book though, make a goodreads group about said book, then shitpost about it to our heart's content.
Nah, I'm no fan of outsourcing to goodreads/irc/discord/whatever, 4chan related stuff should stay on 4chan or it leads to fragmentation and "inner circles".

>>10588200
>>10588270
I would also recommend Farseer trilogy over WoT. I'm not as big of a fan as anon but it's on about the same level as WoT and way shorter meaning if you do not like it there is an early exit point before reading more set in the same world.

>>10589750
Are you the anon who was asking for zombie info forr the past few seeks

>>10589884
nah, I've been asking about different stuff.

This story is... I'll admit its got flaws. I still have to work out how a lot of things are going to figure in, and I'm honestly not happy that I don't get to use a single one of my meticulously thought-out superpowers or gods for this, but my other ideas won't come together and this one has some heart to it and I think that's what counts

>>10589580
no one cares about you or how many books youve read. this notion should be familiar to you since it is practically the same situation of your useless and meaningless real life in which you are lonely and unloved. and no, by replying to this it will not get any better.

>>10589483
4chan is for adults only, you can't be here if you're 12.

>>10588804

>>10588924
I'm surprised you think Tolkien and PKD are pretentious. Where is the pretense in enjoying Tolkien? Who is that going to impress? Tolkien isn't inaccessible just wordy. PKD is also fairly easy to read, the narrative may sometimes be disjointed but he conveys stuff in a straightforward way.

Gene Wolfe and Borges sure, they're undeniably complex, but if you sincerely enjoy them then there's no pretension. I don't think a pseud would actually re-read tBotNS.

>>10588836
>>10588682
Could you give me a quick rundown for both? Not spoilers, just basic plot.

How long will we have to wait, bros?

>>10590370
Depends whether we can impede Trump or not.

>>10590370
NEVER EVER

>>10587964
This anthology was pretty good. You can find it for dirt cheap online too

>>10590281
I'm sure I was on 4chan and lit longer than your ass. Plus I have the added benefit of never using reddite, like you did, before your ass migrated over here.

>bragging about how much time you spend here

>>10590698
I started browsing four chin when I was 16, back in 2003.

Also,
>not getting the joke
>R*DDIT
Ok :-)
Assuming people make fun when they actually don't is a clear sign of pic related, which is absolutely ugly on men.

>>10589182
How much did you like BotNS? Because there's also Long and Short Sun to read.

>>10589483
What's the point of reading if you can't remember what you've read?

>tfw you get closer to writing something that isn't complete shit every day

>>10590863
>spend more time lurking /sffg/ than actually reading

>>10590885
I remember what I read. If a book comes up that I read I can shitpost/discuss along with everyone else. It's just that I don't have favorites.

I read to fill the ever expanding void that is my life, my existence, my reality. The reason I read so much is to find the gem that glitters ever so in the emptiness. Even if it shines for but a brief moment, it's glaring substance is usually enough to tide me over until my next endeavour.

>>10590907
>tfw I dont know tf

>>10588032
Depends on what you mean. I did read it. The book is nothing special, but it was entertaining enough, and I thought an obscure rec was appropriate.

>>10591017
But if you remember, how come you can't compare? Don't you recall your enjoyment? Can't you tell a shitty book from a great book?

>>10591080
Are you human? What kind of question is that? Any single person could answer it. People (humans) remember things, but they never remember it all and never all at the same time. We (humans, as opposed to what the fuck you are) can't just compare every single thing to everything else and rank it top to bottom the way computers do. Some people hold a list of their favorites, and when they read something better than everything else on the list, they pick one, discard and replace it. But if someone never had a list in the first place, creating one is so much harder.

So, how do individuals of your species choose their favorite books?

Can anyone please offer some Eastern European High Fantasy? I really like the Witcher saga.

>>10591105
you've written a short story's worth of words explaining how well-read you are but you haven't mentioned a single book title that a person with good taste, as opposed to that poor anon who likes books you don't like, would read. Congratulations.

>>10591080
I have to agree with anon here >>10591105
What's your favorite X? questions always bothered me because I just couldn't understand how people can possibly choose. I eventually decided that this isn't an existential ponderable for most humans. To alleviate my discomfort I simply chose a highly enjoyable book and decided that it would henceforth be my "favorite" in any such discussion.

>>10591373
Any anon that says your taste is bad should be prepared to offer an example of good taste.

>>10591441
Oh, I agree with this too. Memeanon has always had atrocious taste anyway.

>>10591441
>>10591468
Maybe you need to help anon and ask the question differently. "Name 5 books that you really like" maybe.

>>10590885
>I read to fill the ever expanding void that is my life, my existence, my reality. The reason I read so much is to find the gem that glitters ever so in the emptiness.

Where do you guys get your books from if libgen fails you?

>>10591510
barnes and noble
audible
amazon

>>10591510
Used book store.

>>10591534
What if I want to pirate books though? As in, amazon doesn't allow certain books here. I had to get my kindle through some shady business.

>>10591540
do you live in china or kazakhstan or something?

>>10591540
Used book store is like pirating except you pay a pittance for the luxury of physically browsing the inventory and receiving your pirated copy with a free reader attached. Truly the pirate patrician's way. Yer not some kind of poorfag swabbie are ye?

>>10591248
That's because I am someone else.

Finished Oathbringer yesterday. Between this and The Bands of Mourning I feel like Sanderson is moving more deliberately towards his works having greater implications for his Cosmere as a whole.

Some specific stuff that sticks out:

Does the feruchemical means of storing investiture thereby allowing anyone to use it extent to non-Scadrian investiture as well? In other words could it be used as a means to store something like Breath, Dor or Surges/Stormlight?

Did Dalinar actually Ascend to proper godhood and somehow create a new Shard from the remnants of Honor? Or did he just reach the next level of Bondsmith? We've seen two shards combine to make a single (Preservation and Ruin into Harmony), but never a brand new one fashioned from the remains of a dead one. Does this mean the Shards Odium/Rayse killed on the Elantris world could also be revived? Or did he just kill their wielders and not the power itself?

Honestly the little bits of connection to the rest of the Cosmere is what makes reading his stories that much more fun. I especially liked the heavy presence of Warbreaker characters (and even abilities) that have worked their way into Stormlight Archive.

Nightblood is still best sword.

Is the Thrawn Trilogy worth reading? Almost finished the Foundation cycle and I thrist for more epic scale space opera goodness

I will read Dune as soon as I find a good edition (not many sci-fi books are translated into my native language but I hope the new Villeneuve film will convince some publishers to actually do it)

I found this on /v/ and was very unsatisfied to discover that it is, in fact, not a real book

Is there any good fantasy / sci-fi literature that came out of Japan? Or is it just comics?

>>10591608
just manga im afraid.
there is some japanese sci-fi but it really isnt all that good.
many mangas though are adaptations of light-novels or novels. just pick your favourite manga and chances are its got a novel version of it. however the chances that it is translated into anything but moon is slim if its not a popular series.

>>10591595
What language is it?

Thrawn Trilogy was pretty good (says myself as a thirteen-year-old). I've heard pretty good things about Night's Dawn, but I've never read it. If you want to be a dinosaur, try Lensman. If you want something very modern, Count to a Trillion.

>>10591595
Also, Dune's language isn't really that tough. If you can post and read here you can probably manage it in English.

>>10591608
I can think of a couple. There's the one with the Abhs, Seikai no Monshou I think, there's Lodoss, and I think I remember one space opera about that warship, yamato or something.
>Is there any good fantasy / sci-fi literature that came out of Japan? Or is it just comics?
If you restrict to good ones, then it's mostly manga, although rare and few.

>>10591540
Are you able to access google? I got mine mostly out of there, form different sites. Mobilism has some, but not all. If you can torrent, you can find most books.

>>10591644
>>10591649

Glorious Italian, and thank you, I'll check those out

As for language, I usually prefer reading books, esp. fiction, in my native language for several reasons

>>10591540
irchighway

>>10591017
>I read to fill the ever expanding void that is my life, my existence, my reality. The reason I read so much is to find the gem that glitters ever so in the emptiness. Even if it shines for but a brief moment, it's glaring substance is usually enough to tide me over until my next endeavour.
That's pretty deep anon.

>>10591190
>Can anyone please offer some Eastern European
Metro 2033
Roadside Picnic

>High Fantasy
Oh. Disregard that then.

>>10591468
>Memeanon has always had atrocious taste anyway
Who is this memeanon? I see this name mentioned more than once in this general

>>10591592
Some people suspect that dalinar might be ascending to become a new shard from the remnants of Honor. It would probably be Unity.

Also god damn that scene was fucking cool

>>10591608
Do you want to count visual novels? There are a number of good sci-fi VNs.

>>10591867
Hmm, yes, tell about 'em (even if I don't know if it really counts as /lit/ but oh well)

>>10591873
If you aren't familiar with VNs, I'd suggest Planetarian. It's a short post-apocalyptic game about the relationship between robots and humans.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/316720/planetarian_the_reverie_of_a_little_planet/
There's also the Muv Luv trilogy (these are on Steam as well but the pages are down temporarily), Steins;gate, Himawari.

>>10591761
>gibbous moon, that lustrous pearl
>still deeps aglimmer with heavenly silver
>unhallowed dimness sleeps, depths content
>
>eldritch glow, the demons weal
>pultrid glare aroils the deep
>rended is the peaceful veil, awake
>it comes
>it comes
>it COMES
>MEMEANON!!!! D: D:

>>10588512

So this is the power of Cixin Liu

>>10587843
Cyber Dystopian:

Neuromancer, Burning Chrome and the Blue Any trilogy by Gibson
Gnomon by Harm's way
Autonomous by Newitz

>>10590320
>Nogwarts.webm

Has a book ever scared you?
If so, what book was it, how scared, and why?
If not, what would you say is the emotional limit of the horror genre?

In general, what emotions do you think books are capable/incapable of producing in the reader?
Some of them are obviously possible, even common, like sadness, happiness, disgust, confusion, concern, discomfort, anxiety, amusement, love, and hatred. But I've never once felt anything I could call fear while reading. Am I just missing something, or is it a fundamental limitation of the medium?

>>10590885
>he remembers what he's read
I don't even remember THAT I've read something. The only reason I know I read at all is that I used to keep everything I finished and filled a few bookcases. Otherwise for all I know I've just been a victim of chronic narcolepsy for the past decade.

>>10591979
I don't think I can say I've ever been scared by reading a book, but Blindsight was a real mindfuck, with some things I hadn't considered.

>>10591873
Baldr Sky is the cream of the crop in sci-fi. Even has pretty good gameplay.

You're gonna get a fucked up version in English eventually, it seems.

>>10591937
A pinging sound rang out as the flying sword flew in again and again, but each time, it was sent spinning away. Finally, the pale-faced young man’s spiritual energy was more than half depleted, and a look of despair appeared on his face.

He had been fighting in duels for years, but this was the first time he had encountered an opponent who hid like a turtle in a shell. However, he wasn’t willing to give in yet. He had joined the competition with the express purpose of taking 3rd place. Staring at Bai Xiaochun with bloodshot eyes, he furiously roared, “Get out from behind that shield!”

Bai Xiaochun wasn’t scared at all by this young man, so he didn’t have any reservations about staying behind the shield and shouting, “If you’re good enough, why don’t you come on inside!”

Strange expressions appeared on the faces of everyone in the audience as they looked at Bai Xiaochun, not sure whether to laugh or cry. The gaunt young man was so angry that blue veins popped out on his forehead as he clenched his jaw. Finally, he bit his tongue and spit out a mouthful of blood. When it landed on his wooden sword, the entire thing turned the color of blood.

Discussion immediately broke out in the audience.

“Blood Spirit Magic!”

“For him to use that magical technique shows that he really has been driven to madness!”

The blood-colored wooden sword moved even faster than before, and emitted double the pressure. Blood-colored light spread out in all directions as it shot toward Bai Xiaochun.

A boom rang out as the wooden sword pierced a full three inches into the shield. Rumbling could be heard as it tried to pierce further, but failed. In fact, because too much force was being exerted, cracks began to spread out over the sword.

A moment later, a pop could be heard as the entire wooden sword… shattered into pieces, which slowly floated down to the ground.

The gaunt young man’s eyes went wide, and blood sprayed out of his mouth. His spiritual energy was vastly depleted, his magical item destroyed, and he was so furious simply passed out.

>>10591478
He's the one who reads a thousand books a year and has an IQ that must be described using scientific notation, maybe he can figure it out.

>>10591540
I dunno, maybe read the /lit/ sticky.

>>10591577
>pay
>pirate

>>10587843
>What should I read if I like the malazan series?
Prince of Nothing series since it's pretentious and edgy like Malazan.

>>10590344
I love the Drenai books, but I really wouldn't recommend them for something similar to Malazan.

>>10592503
>He's the one who reads a thousand books a year
>what is reading comprehension
I said I read 101 books last year, and that I read a total of 1200 books(at least that's what's documented on goodreads).
What are these ESL fags even doing in here if they can't comprehend? It's like that fag from the last thread talking about you can't use "their" and plural. I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same person.

>>10592590
Nobody tell him.

>>10591373
>how people can possibly choose
Maybe, instead of sperging out about how many books he have read, anon could have mentioned a couple of books he really enjoyed?

I can't say which book is my favourite but I would have no problem listing 5 of my favourites.

recommend me some books by this guy

>>10592616
Some people place different value on the meaning of language. I was trying to illustrate that difference. "List your 5 favorite books" and "List 5 of your favorite books" are two very different things to such people. Is it autism? I don't know.

>>10592773
Of course there is an difference but there takes a special kind of autist to make such a big thing out of it instead of just listing 5 favourite books with a disclaimer stating that they're simply 5 favourite books.

>>10592791
Yes, exactly. It's more common than you think.

>>10590609

I'm gonna trust one this anon, but I'm still wary of Dean Koontz being the first name on this list

>>10592826
Is he bad?

Why did nice prose in fantasy and sci-fi drop off a fucking cliff? I mean you have writers like Robert E. Howard who only had a high school education and lived out in Bumfuck, Texas yet wrote prose that absolutely shits on damn near every modern fantasy book from writers who actually went to college. Some of whom even got DEGREES in writing.
>inb4 dinosaur meme

>>10592654
>How to be a pussyhound: An Introduction to the Socialist Workers Party

>>10592841
Short answer: Everybody wanted to be Hemingway.
Long answer:
https://bondwine.com/2007/01/19/1977-from-zeuss-brow/

>>10592841

So are we allowed to talk about Worm here?
Despite being capeshit it technically qualifies as SF. I would make a thread on /co/ for more responses and discussion, but whenever I do the same vultures show up pretending to be mods and whining "THIS ISN'T /co/! TAKE THIS TO /lit/!" and shit.

>>10592654
>enlisted
>easily recognizable tats
Out you go.

>>10592931
It's a webnovel.
Is there a book you can direct me to?

>>10592946
Are you fucking kidding me? Just because it's a webnovel, no discussion of it can stay alive for long on /co/. Just because it has capes and isn't pretentious, it can't stay alive in /lit/. The fuck am I supposed to do?

>>10592826
Yeah, his story blows but it was published in the late '80s so the editors knew he'd shift copies. There are some gems, like PKD's "The Father-Thing," Campbell's "Who Goes There?", "The Man with a Thousand Legs," and my personal favorite (though its not really sci fi) "Orange is for Anguish, Blue is for Insanity"

>>10592841
To be fair, while several dinosaurs write decent prose there is nothing amazing about it. However, I agree that they outshine most of modern authors. I'd put at least a part of the blame on the amount of authors, nowadays we have thousands of fantasy authors, that some of them are shitty is not so strange.

>>10592953
>The fuck am I supposed to do?
Why don't you try /int/, my home board. They're good lads they'll take care of you.

>>10592953
Have you considered that maybe no one actually want to talk about it? If there is interest in a topic a couple of nerds crying >>>/whatever/ won't matter.

Found this at a garage sale for 50 cents, is it a hidden gem or is it shit? this will determine when I read it in my long list of novels I need to get around to

>>10592968
People can and do talk about it on /co/. People see the thread on /co/ and join in for discussion and artposting and shit. The mods eventually delete the thread by 200 replies no matter what because they think the same as the crying nerds who pretend to be mods, but are never seen in the movie threads to cry for them to fuck off to >>>/tv/.

>>10591790
Cultivation seems to be a lot better at the whole scheming thing than Odium.

I'm betting Taravangian is also somehow a part of Cultivation's plans given his visit to the Nightwatcher

>>10592958
The Father-Thing was PKD? I remember it feeling pretty normal for Golden Age SF when I read it in Tomorrow's Children as a kid.

>>10592960
>nowadays we have thousands of fantasy authors, that some of them are shitty is not so strange.
Who are the ones that write good prose?

>>10591510
Your local library

>>10593013
>Cultivation

*Eyes glow with spirit energy*

i want a book about a guy just going around enslaving and raping women.
no lovey dovey shit.
just pure abuse.

>prose this
>prose that
>doesn't have good prose
>has great prose
>list some prose
I thought the pseuds stayed in outer lit

>>10590344
Black Company is a basic 80s era fantasy setting mixed with the aesthetic of a masculine anime like Beserk/Votoms.

>>10588512
>>10592499
How the fuck do people read this shit? It's embarrassing. It makes Conan look like War and Peace.

>>10592931
Who's the the centurion again?

Also, am I the only one who thought khepri should have been beelzebub?

>>10593678
Are you trying to use Conan as an example of bad prose?

>>10593507
Go to bed, Martin. You're drunk.

>>10593714
Centurion is Dauntless, the guy who can make himself incrementally powerful a little each day, which is cumulative and permanent. He got trapped in the timestop bubble in Leviathan fight.
Khepri fits more because of solar imagery with Scion and also because the sequel Ward also has craptons of sun-related words as chapter titles

i'm reading the witcher short stories and wondering if they're worth it

wondering if when i should finish the first law trilogy

so what's this place like

>>10593745
No. I'm using it as an example of escapist power-fantasy pulp.

>>10593808
The Witcher short stories are the best of the bunch but all of the full novels are enjoyable. Not amazing but enjoyable.

I really enjoyed The First Law trilogy. Especially if you play close attention to the characters and their motivations and realize which characters are inversions of archetypes and which ones are stereotypes (hint: it isn't who you think)

Pretentious as hell.

I'm reading Blindsight.

They just entered Big Ben for the first time.

I have no idea what the fuck is going on.

Are there actually Vampires like fucking Dracula or are they a metaphor for something because the narrator is autistic? Because if they are real vampires than that is retarded. I thought this was supposed to be a hard science fiction novel not Star Trek.

>>10593972
You desperately need to stop speed-reading, anon. It's completely explained that the vampire myth comes from an extinct race of predatory humans whose genome was reconstructed from autists and psychopaths.

>>10593985
Not that other anon, and you're correct, but the 'vampire' part is really unnecessary and the least believable

>>10593996
What's hard to believe is someone getting that far in Blindsight and not catching the paragraphs of exposition explaining that the vampires are not supernatural beings.

>>10594011
Then what is the fucking point of calling them Vampires.

Vampires are supernatural.
If you want emotionless highly intelligent super predators then just call them something different. Have them be a bunch of Post-Human science experiments, not vampires.

>>10593678
It's in the style of traditional Chinese storytelling. Also most LN/WN translators tend to be hobbyists so some of the prose gets lost.
https://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/l/literature/chinese/romance-of-the-three-kingdoms/

>>10594062
because he's writing a novel and he wants an emotional response? The complaint was literally "I can't tell if it's Dracula," don't try to make me responsible for Watts' stylistic choices.

>>10594011
I was just confused because I thought I was going to be reading a hard sci-fi novel and all of a sudden we have fucking vampires flapping around and since the narrator seems to be autistic I thought maybe he was exaggerating or something.

Also the Gang being multiple personalities could have been explained so much easier. I figured it out eventually but I was so confused for way too long.

>>10594062
>Then what is the fucking point of calling them Zombies

>Zombies are created by witch doctors. If you want shambling masses of diseased predators than just call them something different.

>>10594075
Maybe you need to try something less challenging. Stick to Sanderson and Chinese webnovels.

>>10594011
I *know* they're not actually vampires, but even the whole genome reconstruction stuff was absolute bollocks from a scientific standpoint, even the hyperthreading stuff equates human thoughts with computational 'thought' way too much. again, to me that was the weakest part

>>10594142
This is what I was responding to:
>Are there actually Vampires like fucking Dracula or are they a metaphor for something because the narrator is autistic? Because if they are real vampires than that is retarded.
Why are you trying to make me defend the novel? I'm attacking an anon here.

>>10593972
>>10594062
>>10594075
>>10594142
is that you brad torgersen?

>>10591190
>>10591752
Wait, are you saying no High Fantasy of note has come from the entirety of Eastern Europe other than the Witcher?

>>10591534
>>10591538
>>10591674
>no bibliotik
fufufu

>>10594142
And this is why hard sci-fi is retarded as fuck. Only spergy goobers read it.

>>10592953
>>10592931
how many pages is it? sounds interesting

Somewhere along the way I screwed up as a writer and lost my originality. Now I'm legit embarrassed to tell the story I want to tell and I'd feel more comfortable writing something so generic it's cringeworthy

>>10594189
>hard to get into
>ratio starved as fuck
It's not worth the effort. I don't think I've ever encountered a book that was on bib but not libgen, mobilism or mam

>>10592993
Well, then it seems to me that regardless of what the mods think /co/ is the place to post.

>>10593028
I hardly read contemporary fantasy so I can't fully answer that question.

But to be fair, Rothfuss' prose is quite good. I believe that's why he've won so many fans even though his books are shit.

>>10594684
just write

>>10594726
>tfw downloaded nearing 2gb of books now
>haven't seeded even 0.1
Honestly not sure how my account hasn't been taken away by now.

>>10594355
It's 30 arcs with roughly 1.68 million words total. It's right here, enjoy. https://parahumans.wordpress.com/

>>10594922
I'll do that for next time, thank you

Sanderson will fucking die before finishing everything he has planned for the Cosmere, like Jordan before him with WoT

>>10594188
I'm saying from what I read witcher is the only Europe fantasy I read that I recall. I read a bunch of scifi though.

>>10595817
We know this. At least the YA crowd wouldn't be left hanging.

Which ever shill anons recommended vurt go kill yourself. This book was complete trash.

>>10595817
Die of what? Not old age. Nigga is not even 45 and he writes like 4 books a year.

*blocks your path*
check your goldPrivilege

I promised myself I'd read 20 books last year but didn't read a single one.

>>10596221
With the rate Brandonson writes, and the things he has planned to publish, it's estimated that it would take 30 years to complete the cosmere. More now that he pushes back cosmere books, and keeps adding Young Adult cash grabs.

>>10596302
How's the gri this time round? Any cannibalism? Any more of that hand on chest/finger in air shit like the first book?

>>10592568
I recommend them if he wanted a fantasy series with 10+ books to read

George R. R. Martin Doesn't Need to Finish Writing the Game of Thrones Books

https://www.wired.com/2017/05/george-r-r-martin-game-of-thrones-books/

>Since Game of Thrones began, Martin has published just one new book: A Dance with Dragons, the fifth in the Song of Ice and Fire series. (OK, he technically released A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, but that was a prequel and—actually, let's just not speak of it.) Martin thinks he could finish the next one, The Winds of Winter, this year. Maybe. Who knows? Last year, during Season 6 of the TV series, the show fully bypassed the published blueprint of Westeros, the world of Martin's fantasy epic. Fans freaked out—how could he let this happen? George, stop going out and having fun, these fans demanded, get in your house and finish the series. The internet’s favorite joke since around 2012 has been to yell at Martin whenever he’s found to be doing something other than furiously typing. The animating theory of the joke is that it’s his duty—his imperative—to finish the story he began.

>Guess what? It’s not. Twitter, you, me, everyone, needs to get over it. The Song of Ice and Fire is not the Westerosi enchiridion any more. Martin's story, the world he built, lives on TV. And now that HBO is cooking up spinoff shows based on the original, it’s official: The TV universe has eclipsed the books and become the Game of Thrones canon.

>And that is fine. It really is. Not in a "the world is burning down around me and I pretend this is fine" kind of way. It’s OK because the world of Westeros is not a concrete thing— it's still being built. Hell, it’s being realized beyond Martin's imagination, faster than he's able to write sentences. You know who that's good for? You, the fan of that world. More for you!

>There's this notion that whatever came first—a book, a film, a TV show—has to be the sacred writ of any major pop culture property. That's simply not true, especially in the case of Game of Thrones, where the global phenomenon has largely been about HBO's series. And there's no reason the show can't be like The Godfather or The Shining or Blade Runner or even Jaws. (Full disclosure: That's a film I have a personal and ambivalent stake in.) The cultural impact of all those films surpassed the books upon which they were based. Or think about the Star Wars novels and comic books that came out after the original movies. Are they verboten? More than anything, they're just more windows into a world people can't get enough of—something Martin's future books are about to become. Either way, none of these offerings ruined the source material. None of them ruined the stories that came before.

>>10596914

Books where best grill wins in the end?

>>10596926
Ranger's apprentice xD

>>10596914
I don't even care at this point

>>10596914
Of course a woman wrote that article.

>>10596914
havent read game of thrones or watched the show.
from what ive gathered ive only missed a sub par fantasy series with incest and rape happening a lot.

>>10596970
Basically, yeah. I kind of despise it when works have a shit ton of pointless sex in it.

>>10596937
It was a serious question though.

>>10593494
The Gor series by John Norman

>>10596553
>promising yourself to read x books
Full retard. If you really want to read more, pick a single book you want to read and then try to read at least 5 pages a day.

>>10597099
5 pages is too few, I'd suggest he read 2 chapters a day, or around 25 pages.

>>10596914
>It’s OK because the world of Westeros is not a concrete thing— it's still being built. Hell, it’s being realized beyond Martin's imagination, faster than he's able to write sentences.
>implying this whole article is not a clever way to taunt GURRM into writing faster

>>10597105
Nah, the idea is to remove the gigantic obstacle that starting to read is. Reading 2 chapters might seem like a mountain to some but every one can read 5 pages (or if you can't start with one). After a while you'll find yourself reading way more than your 5 pages a day, and enjoying it.

Promising and forcing yourself to read genre fiction will only burn you out.

>>10596634
>How's the gri this time round?
There's some gay but almost entirely consensual.
>Any cannibalism?
The asteroid belt is infested with cannibalistic Obsidians who strap corpses to their spaceships.
>Any more of that hand on chest/finger in air shit like the first book?
Nope, just some annoying bits with the Red Holocaust Museum. Half the characters are convinced the Rising was a bad idea.

>>10596914
>Or think about the Star Wars novels and comic books that came out after the original movies. Are they verboten?
Yes, yes they are, they were flushed down the toilet so the cinematic universe could be handed over to someone else.

>>10597306
I want to see more art that shows off just how huge the Golds are compared to everybody else.

>>10596970
>>10596990
The story/plot is more interesting on the show than it is in the books, but it's still smutty softcore porn plain and simple.

Which of these should I buy?

Which of these should I buy?

>>10597726
>1, 2, 3
Don't know.
>4, 5, 6
Buy.
>7
Don't buy.
>8
Maybe buy.

Any thoughts on Peter Hamilton? I read this and Judas Unchained and enjoyed them, but I don't know if I enjoyed them enough for another 2000+ page commitment to one of his other series.

Anything worthwhile to read on kindle unlimited?

I enjoyed Will Wights traveler's gate trilogy but I don't know if signing up to the service is worth it just to read his new series

>>10597744
Grabbed two more possibles.

>>10597805
Have not read any of them.

>not getting that fatass Tolstoy buffer stop instead
Become the pseud and join the outer containment board anon.

>>10597813
Fatass Tolstoy buffer stop?

>>10597805
>>10597726
To Say Nothing of the Dog is very cozy time travel, pretty slow moving, essential if you're a Jerome K. Jerome fan.

>>10597815
The big white book in the shelf behind you. Pic related is a buffer stop.

>>10597825
I understand now, thank you.

Fellow anons who read and recommended me these books. Did you find anything simular?
Super sales and Daniel Black were great. The way they implemented game mechanics without it being shitty was wonderful.

I actually enjoyed these books more than last year's BIG authors. These were more enjoyable than Sanderson, Jemisin, Sullivan, and the few other big names I read. Them being self published has no bearing on quality.

>>10597821
Sounds nice.

>>10597834
I have not read any of these and i don't intend to either but I have the hugest boner for the wolf-girl on the Super Sales cover.

>>10597834
if you dont mind typical cliches theres otherlife wich is also by the super sales author. that was enjoyable. then theres alpha world which i have had me crying like a bitch at multiple parts. it really gets your heartstrings. theyre fairly similar.
>>10597875
you should really read it. if nothing else just to form your own opinion. the worlf girl on the cover is andrea and is one of the best grils in the book. the audiobook is fucking fantastic. the performance for andrea was amazing.
andrea plays a huge role in both of the books too so she isnt just some side character.

>>10596970
GoT was the series that made me finally realize HBO is mostly garbage. They use sex and violence to trick idiots into thinking they're watching something good.

>>10597953
>you should really read it. if nothing else just to form your own opinion.

>>10598053
i fail to comprehend how your picture is related in any way. i was refering to super sales. which is not erotica in any way.

http://thewertzone.blogspot.ca/2017/12/new-black-company-novel-confirmed-for.html
It's happening!

I have an audible credit. Could I have a grim Fantasy recommendation? I can jump onto the first of any series.

>>10598116
how grim we talking there senpai.

>>10598164
GRI is not mandatory. But a plus.

I haven't read either Prince of Thorns, The Black Company or Book of The New Sun.

>>10598116
First Law Trilogy is the obvious suggestion, but if you want HILARIOUSLY over-the-top grimness and nihilism (with a heaping helping of pretentiousness) then Prince of Nothing.

>Raistlin gets a younger body
>tortured by blue balls
hee hee

>>10596914
>Father: Richard Dreyfuss
>His family is Jewish.

Everytime

>>10598214
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2253471.Dark_Lord?from_search=true

>>10597953
>otherlife wich is also by the super sales author
I read everything those authors in the pic has released. I need more.

>>10598099
It was confirmed for decad, it's just that it keeps being pushed back.

>Want to read a SF book
>Try to buy it online
>Out of print
>Cheapest decent copy ~$50
>Kindle edition $6
This happens often enough that I'm considering just buying a Kindle. I've never used one before, though. Anyone familiar with them?

>>10598551
why not just dl it lol

I thought the Felix parts of the book were better than Starship troopers. It was very good
Shame we wont get a sequel

>>10598632
Even if I did that I'd have to read the book on my computer screen. I've tried doing that before and it's awful.

Are blood song books 2 and 3 as shit as everyone says they are? Or just the pov change being too jarring for most people.

Should have never read this shit as a standalone, it sets up too much for the future, sucks if it doesn't deliver on anything.

>>10598643
That cover manages to be both awesome and underwhelming at the same time

>>10598551
>I've never used one before, though. Anyone familiar with them?
Check the last couple threads.

>>10598697
Its a much better cover than some of the newer versions

>>10598551
I've used a Kindle 3 Keyboard for 4-5 years now.

Overall I think it's great. E-Ink displays are functionally the same as reading a piece of paper, not like using a tablet or computer screen, which is basically looking into a lightbulb.

>>10599169
I'm literally too lazy to hold up books any more, just lean back in my chair and read on my monitors.

>>10597805
>>10597726
I decided to buy all of them.

>>10599204
Awesome, post in an upcoming /ssfg/ how you feel about Hyperion and Neuromancer when you're done with them.

>>10598027
It's the pretension that annoys me. Violence is absolutely fine if done right, current Syfy shows have turned extreme cartoony violence into a staple; smut is also fine, some of the best exploitation films relied on nudity and fucking to move the plot along or to set the tone(the rape scene in I Spit on Yout Grave is still haunting). It's the fact that the violence and the nudity are just there so that the show looks mature which is, ironically, childish.

And the plot is shit. The acting by the apparent leads is atrocious. Some of the battles are fine, but not spectacular. The screenwriting is subpat and it feels like the show is a collection of well shot, mediocrely acted vignettes with some sprinkles of greatness here and there. It's basically Rome with a big budget but for dummies.

I really enjoyed childhood's end. What other books should I get, /lit/

>>10588836

If I liked the Black Company would I also like Malazan?

>>10590370
>>10590450

>>10599772
Moon is a harsh mistress

Can anybody give me a book with a feel similar to pic related? The unspoken history of the world was great. It's all show, no tell.

Also the idea of this new world after these giants were all over the place. Ruins of old society, but not in an edgy way. People are just tryinna live.

>>10599813
Erickson sites Cook as one of his main influences, and I can definitely see it, but Malazan is a much bigger investment of time and effort than Black Company. I thoroughly enjoyed it, but I wouldn't recommend the series if you're looking for light reading. The scope of it is immense and it takes a lot of reading before you can start piecing together the larger story, or even individual character arcs.

>>10598214
>I haven't read either Prince of Thorns
Good. Don't.

>>10596914
The TV show is hot garbage though. They've badly mangled his characters and setting and made the story ridiculous. If Martin has a critical flaw it's wasting time on things that aren't essential, but the meat of the story is still great. The characters are still great. I fall in love with them all over again whenever I reread his books.

By contrast HBO's series is a fucking joke.

>>10598696
the series takes a huge nosedive after the first book, nothing I enjoyed in the first book was present in the sequels. Try and find a summary of 2 and 3, it's not worth your time unless you really have nothing else to read

>>10600052
Well it is for a TV audience so they have to dumb things down. Even if the source material itself isn't exactly challenging stuff.

I just finished Heir to the Empire. While it was a fairly fun and easy read, I found the writing to be very clunky (I should count the number of uses of "sardonically") and the story to be emotionally weightless. I was also disappointed by how one-note the new characters are. There were a few really interesting scenarios, however, like Luke stranded in space and Leia on Kashyyyk.
Are the other two books in the Thrawn trilogy any better?

>>10600281
Stop reading that meme garbage, they're Dune prequel level of quality.

>luke and luuke

There's a containment general on /co/, fuck off and never come back.

>>10600295
So should I take that as a "no"?

>>10600328
You should take a footlong dick up your ass or start reading good scifi.

>>10591908
>Steins;Gate
>no Chaos;Head or Chaos;Child mentioned
I'd say theme-wise, these two are better than S;G. It's sad how overrated S;G became thanks to the anime, to the point where people don't care about the better titles in the same series.

>>10591873
999 and Virtue's Last Reward.

>>10600362
If you can stand that pompous annoying MC talking for more than 5 minutes you're a better man than I.

>>10600369
you're going to upset him

>>10600380
ZTD is worth it for the memes alone desu.

>>10600374
I mean
I found him fun, and as time went on, I realized his "WRONGSIDERS REEEEEEEEEEE" thing is really neatly tied into one of the main themes of the story (won't specify because lol spoilers) and into his own character. I recommend you to keep reading.

When will you finally admit that Denna is a well-written character? Yes, it's possible she fuck various men for money, but hey, a girl needs to make a living.

>>10599772
The Three Body Problem

>>10591908
Don't recommend garbage like ML.
>>10600394
>we live in a timeline where ZTD exists
Fuck you.

>>10600355
Did a Star Wars book molest you as a kid?

>>10596914
I just don't care anymore, he's had long enough. If he had actually plotted things out in a reasonable way then he'd never have gotten himself into the mess that he did at the end of SoS. He expanded the scope of the novels way way too far and now he has to try and find a way to end them that is satisfying to people who've spent decades building up the climax in their heads. He could've made an interesting low fantasy series about politicking in a psuedo medieval contex, but instead decided he needed to keep fucking around with the plot until a major character is half a world away five books in. Fuck Grrm he squandered his potential and he has to live with the fact that most people will remember his work as the trashy TV show it was destined to be.

>>10598643
Felix's chapters were incredible. The rest, very mediocre. And what an anime ending ey?

>>10599204
>lord Valentine's castle
Hope you like juggling

>>10599204
Never heard of Stephen Hunt but otherwise that's a solid stack.

>>10598696
Yes it is.
Nothing happens for 70% of the book.
The queen is the biggest Mary Sue ever.
>kidnapped by pirates
>shown a scroll for 5sec
>"sorry I can't read"
>little did they know that I learned the old form of high sumerian when I was 7 and this is a simple rank 3 encryption matrix with ascending key
>"captain, I challenge you to a game of chess"

It does get points for GRI content though, even if it's always off screen.
>kidnapped by other meaner pirates
>dude sucks everyone's dick to be kept alive
>doesn't mind taking it in the ass too

>>10597763
I'm not much of a fan, but he's pretty consistent. While I don't think you'd be disappointed, personally I'd recommend trying a different author just to take a break. If you liked Hamilton's brand of science fantasy, try Ada Palmer's Terra Ignota books (Too Like The Lightning) or Dan Simmons' Hyperion.

where the new thread at bitches >:(

>>10600442
In an alternate universe he would've said yes to the movie deals he was offered around the time LOTR blew up. Maybe that would've sped him up.

>>10600519
Yeah but did you expect anything less? Became obvious who Lewis was

Dont die /ssfg/

>>10601705
make a new thread dummy is this your first general

>>10601718
why don't you fucking make one lazy ass nigga

>>10601732
i'm not the one complaining about a thread on page nine

>>10601743
shut up and make the new thread fag

>>10601787
>>10601787
>>10601787
New thread