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10593090 No.10593090 [Reply] [Original]

Why is this the /lit/ starter kit? Most these books suck.

>> No.10593106

because literally anyone can go into paint and make a /lit/ starter kit

>> No.10593114

>>10593090
>what is entry level

>> No.10593120

>>10593114
I'm sure there's better entry level books, these are trash.

>> No.10593125

>>10593106
Okay well if /lit/ wants to be taken seriously they need to put a stop to that

>> No.10593127

middle school reading stack

>> No.10593133
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>> No.10593139

>>10593106
>>10593133

Ha ha look at that he actually did what u said the madman

>> No.10593144

>>10593120
Then make your own patrician entry level chart you dingus.

>> No.10593147

this is less a /lit/ starter pack and more of just a basic list of books every human should read

>> No.10593148

>>10593133
Wtf i love dicks in my cheerios now

>> No.10593151

>>10593106
>>10593144
>>10593147
This is on the front page of the /lit/ wiki in the sticky

>> No.10593165

>>10593125
Get a load of this totalitarian cunt

>> No.10593166

I only started reading "seriously" last year and read American Psycho, Siddhartha and The Picture of Dorian Grey due to this list and really enjoyed them.

It's hard to dive straight into some of the books discussed here when you haven't read much in the past, and most of these are great starters. I'm not a smart person and even found Siddhartha difficult to read, having to re-read pages several times. American Psycho is still one of my favourite books.

Also >>10593147 I'll probably end up reading a few more off that list if I just want something easy.

>> No.10593174

>>10593151
Let's be honest, a lot of really old /lit/ had some pleb taste
Not that the board's currently in its ideal state though

>> No.10593185

>>10593166
I feelya fellow brainlet bro. I read a canticle for liebowitz which is fucking scifi and felt like a retard. Probably am one tbqh

>> No.10593188

>>10593166
Okay well maybe those are good but 1984, Invisible Man, To Kill a Mockingbird, and Fahrenheit 451 are straight up awful even if you're in middle school (When most people read these books).

>> No.10593200

>>10593090
There's a different one that is a lot better, but ridiculing an entry list for having easy entry books is ridiculous
That being said I can't change the fucking sticky, if I could it would direct to KJV Genesis
And the /lit/ /lit/ starting point has always been the Greeks

>> No.10593205

>>10593188
hyperbole is straight up awful

>> No.10593208

>>10593090
this is fine for anyone literally entering reading, i'm assuming there's a seperate infograph on how to get started with the greeks anyway.

>> No.10593230

>>10593205
i feel it's more zigzagged

>> No.10593254

>>10593188
1984 isn't even bad it's just overrated by normies, and as a result people who actually read books feel the need to hate it. Orwell is a good writer and 1984 has both an interesting storyline and interesting ideas.

>>10593208
there are at least 10 of those

>> No.10593285

>>10593185
At one point I tried to get into the greeks in an attempt to become a learned man. I failed miserably and couldn't understand a thing.

>> No.10593484

>>10593090
I think this is a starter kit to learn about what /lit/ shitpost the most, it's only missing Ulysses, IJ and some Pynchon

>> No.10593490

>>10593188
Oh fuck off. They're widely accepted books and straightforward entry points into literature because they are clear in communicating their themes and not too heady for the average person.

I honestly don't know what people expect out of what is essentially a beginner's guide to literature. There are a few odd choices but you don't typically introduce people to reading via Genet or some shit.

>> No.10593512

>>10593090
It's actually better than the religious and philosophical reading paint drying drivel that most of /lit/ is reading

>> No.10593550

>>10593188
>1984 suuuuuucks!! am I patrician yet boys? teheee

>> No.10593555

yeah no peterson wtf?

>> No.10593570

>>10593090
No, those are some splendid and accessible books, perfect for a starting kit.

>> No.10593571

>>10593188
To Kill a Mockingbird is a great hs read desu

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>>10593090
>>10593120
>>10593151
>>10593200
This is the real starter kit, with the exception of Faulkner and Borges

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>>10593585
And this
So check yourself OP

>> No.10593598

>>10593090
It's taken from middle-high school reading, because they are simple works to analyse themes, characters, and prose styling. Which is also why they're given out in schools. It's to get people who aren't at high school level to read and understand something within their range. And if you think most of them suck, you're not able to explain how and why those elements of literature are commonly accepted to apply to those books and are well dispatched.

>> No.10593600

>>10593585
What's wrong with Faulkner?

>> No.10593609

>>10593600
Not a damn thing. AILD never really stuck with me though. For me it goes: Sound & The Fury, Absalom, Absalom!, Go Down Moses, and A Light in August.

>> No.10593616

>>10593609
AILD benefits greatly from being short

>> No.10593622

>>10593600
Not entry level, atleast not Sound and Fury

>> No.10593628

>>10593622
As I Lay Dying is perfect entry level once you've passed 8th grade

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>>10593144
But then he would have to create content and expose himself to possible criticism, and he is too much of a coward for any of that rubbish.

>> No.10593795

>>10593585
>p&v translation of notes from underground
are you kidding? their translations suck

>> No.10593799

>>10593793
Nice projection fag.

>> No.10593819

2010 was a different time. We should really try to update the old charts.

>> No.10593829

>>10593819
New chart should include:
>Infinite Jest
>Ulysses
>Gravity's Rainbow
>Culture of Critique
>Ego and His Own
>Fanged Noumena
>Stoner
>Iliad and Odyssey
>Bible

>> No.10593833

>>10593795
It's an arbitrary cover you fool same with Fagles

>> No.10593846

>>10593829
>>Culture of Critique
>>Ego and His Own
>>Fanged Noumena
>>Stoner
These don't belong. But someone should go through all the charts on the wiki and remake them.

>> No.10593976

>>10593090

I would consider these all relatively easy to read and in some way prepatory for further reading.

>Foundational Texts

Illiad & Odyssey
Homer

The King James Bible
Various

The Metamorphosis
Ovid

Paradise Lost
Milton

The Complete Works
Shakespeare

>19th Century

Lyrical Ballads
Wordsworth and Coleridge

Complete Poems
Keats

Middlemarch
George Eliot

Moby Dick
Melville

Huckleberry Finn
Twain

The Brothers Karamazov
Dostoevsky

Anna Karenina
Tolstoy

Selected Short Stories
Chekhov

Selected Short Stories
Maupassant

Madame Bovary
Flaubert

A Doll's House
Ibsen

>20th Century

Heart of Darkness
Conrad

The Importance of Being Ernest
Wilde

Winesburg, Ohio
Sherwood Anderson

Dubliners
Joyce

The Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man
Joyce

Complete Poems
Yeats

Sons and Lovers
D.H Lawrence

Complete Short Stories
Hemingway

The Great Gatsby
Fitzgerald

As I Lay Dying
Faulkner

The Metamorphosis
Kafka

Journey to the End of the Night
Celine

>> No.10593990

>>10593976
>Lyrical Ballads
>Wordsworth and Coleridge
Does this have Coleridge's best work or is he secondary?

>> No.10594001

>>10593846
>These don't belong
We need to meme these even harder until there is no choice.

>> No.10594003

>>10593829
Lol

>> No.10594008

>>10593990

Only a few poems, but Coleridge isn't really an easy poet. He's very good but not easy. Has Rime of the Ancient Mariner.

The idea is to confine it to reading you could get done at a slow pace over the course of a year or so. I tried to pick stuff that's had the biggest impact on what you would end up reading, which is modern and contemporary lit, as well as putting in just enough to wet the tounge on Victorian and earlier.

>> No.10594009

>>10593976
that's pretty slim compared to the charts for those things and broader movements in the sticky.

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>>10594001
Well then here's a chart for you. Tell me if you think it's missing anything.

>> No.10594017

>>10594009

Its entry level not an overview.

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>>10593090
>starter kit
>doesn't include The Stranger

>> No.10594205

>>10593976
I agree with most of these but especially with the fact that there need to be a lot fewer American books on such lists. That Americans cant read proper literature doesn't mean the rest of us wont.

>> No.10594235

>>10594010
What the fuck is wrong with you? The Gulag Archipelago is a great book.

>> No.10594291

>>10594235
No one on here cared about it before it appeared on Peterson's meme list.

>> No.10594295

>>10593090
that's a list for teenagers and people who have never read anything in their lives anon. Its not meant to be for adults who finished highschool with decent grades in Language Arts

>> No.10594323

>>10594010
Land isn't forced desu he is a perfect chan meme thinker his pseudy prose is spot on

>> No.10594486

>>10594291
>the best, most fluent thinker of our time likes it so it must be shit!

You're on lit, remember

>> No.10594570

>>10594010
fanged noumena and gulag archipelago have been on this board a while and definitely were not forced
the rest I agree with

>> No.10594788

>>10593090
Fuck all of you, Invisible Man is a great book and I've never heard otherwise, give me some reasoning why it's shit tier and not good for entry level readers.

>> No.10594814

name a single book from that list that isn't good for someone starting in lit.

>> No.10594821

>>10593976
>The Metamorphosis
>ovid
do ya mean Metamorphoses dummy?

>> No.10594824

All of them are good, short, and easy. OP is either trolling or an edgy teen trying way too hard to fit in by not liking entry-level books.