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Thanks for joining us. Have a banana.
We're in the zone now, folks, and we're almost at the halfway point!

In the previous thread: >>10506280
>great discussions
>pinecone memes
>shit eaters
>having a great time

RESOURCES:
>Annotations and detailed notes on each page
https://gravitys-rainbow.pynchonwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
>Section Summaries
https://www.ottosell.de/pynchon/rainbow.html
>Link to a PDF of the book we're going off of:
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=7D4A0845A31FFBD230D4910CECDEA255

>> No.10566265

This book's amazing

>> No.10566268
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Here's the schedule for the first three parts

>> No.10566565

>>10566265
>harry potter is as good as anything in the canon

>> No.10566611

>>10566245
This book is puerile. I loved it in my early twenties but now that I'm 36 it's just immature and ridiculous

>> No.10566849

might not be up to this part yet: but two pieces of Rossini music mentioned (though I am unsure about the Tancredi one what exactly was being referred to):

(La Gazza Ladra: "more soul in the snare part than the entirety of Beethovens 9th)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MRvDGd02mA

Tancredi:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f03pyLpRPA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=163fvk7hvIo

>> No.10566920

>>10566611
Don't trick yourself

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>>10566611
Imagine becoming a brainlet with age

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>> No.10567317

>>10566611
You are missing the point of literature.

>> No.10567326

>>10566611
What is your favourite novel now? Also checked

>> No.10567815

It makes me uncomfortable that he sexualises the rocket so frequently.

>> No.10567818

>>10567815
do you self identify as a rocket and don't want your kind to be sexualized?

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>tfw I'm 250 pages behind
I'm never gonna make it, am I?

>> No.10568023

>>10566245
hi dogs what is the easiest pynchon i can start with if i havent read any of his novels and barely even looking at a paragraph of GR confuses me terribly
im a newfig and im not a native ingrish spikkar either so pls dont hit me 2hard
>>10566611
nice full house

>> No.10568024

>>10567834
You could most likely read the whole thing in a day but you'd probably worsen your autism in the process.

>> No.10568035

>>10568023
either crying of lot 49 or inherent vice

>> No.10568113

>>10567834
It's Sunday, spend the day reading.


Any favorite scenes, lads? It's more vulgar than I expected before diving in t b h

>> No.10568168

>>10567317
no, i think he gets it. based on these threads, literature is exclusively for asserting your own superiority.

>this is one of them books that you just love to put up your asshole because the prose feels so good against the sides of your rectum that you just never want it to stop

>> No.10568329

>>10568113
A lot of great scenes but funnily the that stucked me the most was slothrop trying British candies. The tickle metaphor also gave me the creeps.

>> No.10568678

>>10568168
This is one of them lonely female neets that are just dying for (yous) from the male specimen, stay strong lads, she is a -7/11

>> No.10568706

>>10568329
Not strange at all, the disgusting British candies scene is the funniest scene in the book. Probably one of the funniest things I've ever read, in fact.

>> No.10568746

>>10567815
What's an obelisk? What's a pyramid?
Phallic symbolism shows up in occult practices all the time. Think Kubrick.

>> No.10568750

>>10568678
stay strong! unite, men! arm-in-arm! together we can achieve the monumental task of finishing a book!

>> No.10568910

>>10568168
>If you people didnt care about prose so much I would be the genre fiction voice of our generation! drats!

>> No.10568963

>>10568750
>>10568678
to be clear, some proof-of-their-ability-to-poorly-interpret-language-context-and-meaning-person poorly interpreted my 'stay strong lads' to mean anything to do with this:
>>10568750
finish the book: when 9.7/10 of any half competent person who read the exchange would be able to plainly comprehensively see it was intended to refer to not responding to the -7/11 (you) hungry mental, artful, spiritually deficient female neet in question. I think your work here is done, and the jury may rest, it has been taken from before here.

>> No.10568987

>>10566611
but you are a 19 year old recent college grad creating bait for shekels

>> No.10569594

>>10568910
>genre fiction is held back by a small group of circle-jerking cock-worshippers who think pretending to read gravity's rainbow qualifies them to comment on not only the entire western canon, but also all aesthetics

>> No.10569629

>>10569594
>knew it
>t.genre fiction writer
>genre fiction is held back by being genre fiction

>> No.10569634

>>10569629
>gr isnt genre fiction
good one

>> No.10569642

>>10569594
>the inspiration for my prose comes from electronics manuals and shoppingmarket circulars and the dryness of my grandmothers pussy and the boredom of groundhogs and prairie dogs

>> No.10569649

>>10569642
>dryness of my grandmothers pussy
jokes on you! the inspiration for my prose actually comes from my often sopping wet licking of my grandmas pussy, so its actually not dry at all, ha!

>> No.10569747

>>10569642
>I forgot the dullness of the buttend (and I do mean, and wish to stress.. the Buttness) of rubber knives

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>>10566245
Hey faggots let's talk about the book actually. Here's a slow pitch- what's the book saying about reality imitating fiction?

>> No.10571479

>>10566268
holy fuck. If this is your first time then gl.

>> No.10571491

>>10566611
yeah, M&D is better...

>>10570705
Seems like an extension of Modernism that takes it to logical extremes; basically that if reality is inherently unknowable, then stories of them moreso.

>> No.10571494

>>10571491
*stories of it

>> No.10572830

>>10566245
So far in this thread
>childish nonsense

There was quality in the last thread anons, it's time for quality anons to start posting again.
Don't make me ask questions you all about postmodernism just to keep the thread alive again anons.

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>>10572830
>tfw to intelligent

>> No.10574110

Guys if you think
>What the fuck was that part about
Then post it as a question here so we can get something discussion going.

>> No.10575292

>>10574110
What this guy said, come on: i'm sure there are parts that weren't clear and other anons might be able to help.

>don't ask me what the Kirghiz light was though. I DONT KNOW EITHER OK. NO-ONE DOES

>> No.10575337

>>10575292
>>10574110
we all gave up ages ago. shitposting = more fun than reading.

>> No.10575420

>>10574110
Ok I'll bite. What the fuck are the schwarzkommando? I know it means "Black commander" but I don't understand their role in everything. I know vaguely of Germany's occupation of Southwest Africa but beyond that, what is Africa's connection to the V2?

Where we are, do we know what the schwarzgerat is? It's somehow related to 00000, right? Is that known too? Reading the wikipedia page and other writings makes me forget what I'm 'supposed' to know at this point.

Are some of these things supposed to be unanswered at this point in the book?

>> No.10575458

>>10575292
Why does Franz vd Groov commit genocide on the dodo's and more importantly, why does he focus on the egg?

Does anyone understand Walter Rathenaus speech?

[Spoiler]Whats the deal with Lyle Bland 'transcending' through Masonic magic? [/spoiler]

How long did you guys who finished it take to finish it?

>> No.10575594

>>10575420
>Schwarzkommando
Means Black Commando's, not commander. That should already help. They are a group of black special forces running amok in Germany, the radio program about them was intended as propaganda to scare the germans before they knew it was real thing
>Schwarzgerat
Idk where you guys are, so i don't know. I figured it out pretty quick. Yes it's related to the 00000, but chasing it is gonna take a while.
>>10575458
There was decent discussion on Van Der Groov's Genocidal tendencies in GR reading group thread #2 if i'm not mistaken. Check the archive.
Anons thought it was a Calvinistic response to 'an abomination' before god. The western obsession with Death is a theme throughout the book, hence the part with the egg as well (I have to be honest, that part and the kirghiz light remained mysteries to me).
If i'm not mistaken Rathenaus speech ties in with the Death obsession. I don't remember the exact details, but reading up on Rathenaus actual history helped me back then.
About Bland one of the only things I can remember for certain is that he's not the only one trying to transcend, turning to mystery to escape the world.
Help my memory with the name here, is he the guy lying on his sofa a charlatans/ specialists in the occult visit him untill he decides to become a spirit? Or was he the guy that's related to Slothrop (like a friend of his family?) Is that known by now?

Any other anons wanna pitch in here?

>> No.10575597

>>10575594
He's the guy on the sofa and the family friend ('uncle Lyle')

>> No.10575687

>>10575292
>Kirghiz light
what are all possible etymologys of Kirghiz? And what are all context lines of when the term comes up?

>> No.10575736

>>10568329
I, too, enjoyed the British candy scene a lot. That, and the shit eating, loli-fucking and negro-toilet-fingering

>> No.10575944

>>10575597
oh ok, i thought i was confusing two characters. I'd have to reread the part to give you a decent answer, but my copy is currently in Brazil (and i'm not).
>>10575687
Are you asking me or telling me to pay attention to the etymology? I just assumed it meant Kirghiz, like.. the place and the people in Kirghizstan. Were the scene actually takes place. As far as i can remember, it's only described as something Tchitcherine and his witness in the wilderness that was apparently mind-boggeling and then it's mentioned a few more times throughout the book.

If have any insight at all, please, do tell me.
>>10575736
No-one does loli-fucking quite like Pynchon does.

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>>10575337
gravity's rainbow is just one long shitpost though

>> No.10576450

>>10576175
this is a great exposition of how even a strong and powerful man could be completely overcome and conquered by his care or desires in relation to the female

>> No.10576462

>>10576450
how a man could gladly, willfully put up with so much of womans shit

>> No.10576465

>>10576450
>strong
>powerful

uhh... read the book bro.

>> No.10576512

>>10576465
Is a Brigadier General not generally a pretty powerful position in the world? A strong, brave leader of manly men?