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Anonymous Thu Jan 18 23:16:57 2018 No.10557504 [Reply] [Original]

What are some good books that point out the negatives of hedonism?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 18 23:20:50 2018 No.10557519 >>10557504 >initiate your literature enquiries with writings from the geographical area of Greece.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 18 23:21:21 2018 No.10557522 >>10557519 haha he said it a clever way

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 18 23:21:49 2018 No.10557524 There is a little Mediterranean country you might want to look into.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 18 23:23:30 2018 No.10557535 >>10557504 I'd prefer to-the-point books, but indirect stories whom's themes criticize hedonism/over consumerism/materialism work just fine too. >>10557519 >>10557524 Any particular suggestions anons?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 18 23:24:30 2018 No.10557539 If You Give a Mouse a Cookie

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 18 23:25:28 2018 No.10557545 >>10557504 The Portrait of Dorian Gray.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 18 23:26:37 2018 No.10557553 Charles Bukowski drank some wine and had sex with some females and sometimes he was sad as a result lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 18 23:27:08 2018 No.10557555 >>10557535 Plato's Protagoras.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 18 23:35:49 2018 No.10557592 File: 30 KB, 357x384, 1491494926887.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >hedonism >negatives

Anonymous Thu Jan 18 23:43:14 2018 No.10557617
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>>10557592
Self indulgence is destructive. You can't prove me wrong.

>>10557545
>>10557555
Thank you, ill look into them. Wasn't Protagoras the sophist, and Plato's arch nemesis?

>>10557553
What
>>10557539
My faveorit meme answers are the ones that aren't technically wrong. Thank you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 18 23:43:53 2018 No.10557618 >>10557539 Kek

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 00:05:12 2018 No.10557709 infinite jest

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 00:07:29 2018 No.10557718 >>10557504 the sorrows of young werther breh

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 00:11:29 2018 No.10557730 >>10557718 Why is this so familiar. Where have I heard of this from before

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 00:14:42 2018 No.10557740 File: 127 KB, 1674x960, 5727_eightbit2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10557539 Hearty kek

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 00:23:58 2018 No.10557778 >>10557730 the for further readings page, at the back of a penguin book?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 01:09:05 2018 No.10557937 File: 129 KB, 701x755, 1499608139541.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10557778 Probably. Either that or someone else mentioned it in conversation. I wish I had a better memory desu

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 01:22:28 2018 No.10557992 File: 344 KB, 1520x2333, 81nEWYyHgBL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10557504 Against Nature by Joris-Karl Huysmans

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 01:26:42 2018 No.10558011 Brave New World T B H

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 01:28:48 2018 No.10558022 >>10557539 Perfect

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 01:32:25 2018 No.10558033 >>10557545 This would be more apt for criticizing welfare

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 01:38:27 2018 No.10558059 The Great Gatsby

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 01:47:36 2018 No.10558088 >>10557504 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_hedonism https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/hedonism/

Anonymous Fri Jan 19 02:09:58 2018 No.10558154
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>>10558059
Already read it! But yes I agree, this is a perfect example of what I'm looking for so thank you anyhow :)

>>10557992
>>10558011
I'm taking note, thank you very much anons. I dont know anything about these pieces, are they enjoyable?

>>10558088
Worthy links anon, thank you much for the effort.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 04:00:42 2018 No.10558392 >>10557524

Anonymous Fri Jan 19 04:08:02 2018 No.10558404

>>10558154
If anything BNW shows show's how great things could be if people weren't stuck up on shakespeare
literally everyone gets a happy ending, or at least their own place in their world, except for the one guy who tries to hold onto a past that's long gone (and is a stand in for the authors love of British '''culture''' so fuck him)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 04:09:41 2018 No.10558407 File: 150 KB, 261x370, Gabriele_D'Anunnzio.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Implying hedonism is bad Bunch of plebs ITT

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 04:17:45 2018 No.10558421 >>10557504 >justify my ideology for me >find me evidence to support the things i already believe without evidence

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 04:19:21 2018 No.10558423 >>10557504 Story of the Eye

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 04:34:36 2018 No.10558443 >>10558421 In reality, here's what should happen >Reccomend me books that prove me wrong about the negatives of hedonism

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 04:46:16 2018 No.10558464 >>10558421 shut the fuck up, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 04:48:39 2018 No.10558470 >>10558464 no u

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 06:58:46 2018 No.10558663 File: 587 KB, 1200x1750, a03.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10557504 Start with the evolas

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 07:06:41 2018 No.10558677 >>10558011 Came to post this. An easy introduction to it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 08:14:54 2018 No.10558784 Newfag to literature here, never knew so many classics were anti-hedonism

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 08:27:57 2018 No.10558811 >>10558011 This is the only correct answer. t. hedonist

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 08:46:53 2018 No.10558885 >>10558421 OP destroyed

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 13:04:41 2018 No.10559657 Non-Fiction:- Life At The Bottom, Theodore Dalrymple Prose Fiction:- The Great Gatsby, Fitzgerald The Brothers Karamazov, Dostoevsty The Rum Diary, Thompson American Psycho, Ellis Drama:- Henry IV, Parts 1 & 2, Shakespeare

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 17:34:17 2018 No.10560840 >>10557592 godamn nigger that's a cute ass duck

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 18:40:26 2018 No.10561205 >>10557545 Facebook quotes before Facebook existed: the book

Anonymous Fri Jan 19 21:06:50 2018 No.10561917

>>10558421
Point taken.
>>10558443
Please, go ahead.

Honestly I'm surprised this thread is still going. If any of you want to recommend pro-hedonistic material, feel free.

I sincerely doubt it will convince me that unlimited sex and booze (as an example) is benefit though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 00:54:02 2018 No.10562839 Transgressive fiction in general, Irvine Welsh, Selby Jr, Burroughs, etc.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 09:24:22 2018 No.10564010 Atomized no amount of liberation can fix a broken man

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 11:31:31 2018 No.10564365 Gorgias by Plato

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 11:43:26 2018 No.10564406 >>10557524 Modern day Greeks have nothing to do the Ancient Greeks. National identity is constructed, don't forget

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 11:45:13 2018 No.10564410 >>10558011 >negatives of hedonism >Brave New World, a society where you literally have non-stop sex with genetically engineered qts >negatives

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 12:08:16 2018 No.10564500 File: 19 KB, 317x475, EE9F8746-498F-4A5B-AD8E-496BD0DED3A7-1272-00000140CB8FC9E8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 12:17:55 2018 No.10564523 >>10564410 Spoken like a true betacuck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 13:35:00 2018 No.10564787 >>10557504 The Biple.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 13:36:29 2018 No.10564792 >>10558407 Such a mediocre poet

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 13:45:37 2018 No.10564821 File: 14 KB, 350x499, 31TVTyUS6YL._SX348_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The final word on the subject in my opinion.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 13:48:19 2018 No.10564830 >>10564821 The final words by Goonan hopefully

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 13:55:18 2018 No.10564860 >>10557539 If you give a moose a mortgage

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 16:21:04 2018 No.10565514 >>10564830 KEK

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 16:23:47 2018 No.10565524 >>10564365 Remind me how. I took that dialogue to be more about teaching, what can possibly be taught.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 16:25:56 2018 No.10565535 >>10562839 B.E.E.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 20:26:01 2018 No.10566555 File: 59 KB, 501x480, app pio X.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10557504 >cringie tv meme Neck yourself

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 23:16:46 2018 No.10567064 >>10557709 This. Every character in it pursues pleasure and tries to avoid pain. That anon may've just been meming, though.

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