/lit/ - Literature

Why are you in /lit/ and not /new/?

I can only stand so much bile.

>>1050261
A handsome reply.

How should one deal with one's bees swarming?

>>1050272
Divide and conquer.

What do you do with a problem like Israel?

Where's your philosophy at?

That shit looks DRY.

>>1050289
There are of course many players in the Israel-Palestine conflict: Israeli citizens, the Israeli government, Mossad, Palestinian citizens, Hamas, Lebanese citizens, Hamas, Iranian citizens, The Iranian government, The Revolutionary Guards, Syria etc. etc.; and the "problem" to be solved is based upon the rest of the world stepping in, and making it undesirable to commit to further militirization and war.

Because as it is, the Israeli government, Ahmadinejad, Hamas, and Hezbollah all find it beneficial to posture for war, and sabre rattle. it won't end until there is a reason not to.

What's your opinion on this sexy lady?

Who was phone?

>>1050339
I would kill myself before being forced to read something that vapid. The pain simply wouldn't be worth it.

While I'm a fan of Friedman-style (not his Monetarism, however) capitalism under the present economic order, if humans are to survive they will have to realize the necessity of moving away from a consumer-based economy -- and that will not involve capitalism. Global consciousness will soon have to rise to the level of realizing that the world is indeed burning; and if they have to stop and ask Mr. Bankman for paper notes to fix it, then they deserve to die.

Any more?

Is Reagan the worst American president in history or even close?

History, physics, politics, philosophy...wonderful.

You, sir, are a scholar. I don't even need to ask what you study or major in because it would be a waste of breath.

The better question would be what you DON'T study.

>>1050382
It's in the stars

>>1050394
why dont you gargle his balls while your at it

>>1050404
>your
Plebeian grammar. How amusing.

Has the greatest writer/artist in human history yet to exist?

What should a computer science student take as a minor that ends after first/second year?

I ruled out Philosophy & Physics. Perhaps Maths or (I think) Business?

>>1050414
I would suggest finding something that will put you on a path to discover what you would like to apply your computer science skills to.

An international relations class, world history, astronomy, anthropology; but if not, math is always good.

you can't unread that bullshit. fuck your mind.

How to I stop being socially anxious?

>>1050394
Best possible question. That is the question that defines the pyramid of knowledge.

I find it very difficult to answer, however, as it's not a matter of broad subjects that are unnecessary; rather, it's about knowing what pieces of them to choose to study, and knowing what pieces will help you in your goal.

Still. Here is a list that will not lead to the top:
-An excess of fiction
-A business degree
-A journalism degree
-Too narrow a focus on any one particular subject
-Any personal investment, or will to believe, in one viewpoint or theory
-And, as a rule of thumb, anything that will not help in a hypothetical role as world leader.

>>1050509
Find something to learn, or be skillful at, that will give you confidence in front of any person that you might meet.

Imagine yourself training to be worthy of sitting across from Putin. When you can be confident in yourself in front of this man -- then -- you will be ready.

I think this might be the worst thread i've seen yet on /lit/

good job op.

>>1050538
But I'm not even worthy of sitting in front of Bush 2 ;_;

Which books are your favorites?

What's your opinion on the art of Francis Bacon?

>>1050331

>Implying Mossad isn't part of the Israeli Gov't.

You're full of shit. I wager you haven't read a single one of those books.

>>1050557
Mossad is about as connected to the elected representatives of the Israeli government, as the CIA will be to this guy when he gets elected.

>>1050549
Historical biographies, autobiographies, or anything with anecdotes involving important people. The stories help put things together,

Khruschev's book is a gem.

>>1050607
Im sorry to inform you that I only got less then 1% of the primary vote and will not be participating in the general election.

>>1050545
If I actually cared, or tried very hard to put effort into a 4chan thread, I wouldn't be the master of knowledge, now would I.

>>1050645

Nice Great Books set.

Which works of fiction do you approve of, if any?

>>1050679
Fiction is great for building vocabulary, especially 19th century literature, but I only spend time on non-fiction now.

My favorite novel was Moby Dick by far.

>>1050695
What pieces of art do you daily enjoy for emotional depth then?

>>1050701
I have a telescope, and am an amateur astronomer.

The moons of Jupiter were spectacular last night.

Does /lit/ have no loftier questions?

I never understood what is means when a cosine wave leads the sine wave and the sine wave lags the cosine wave. Nor phase-shifts. Explain?

How disappointing

ITT: Great poems

They throw in Drummer Hodge, to rest
Uncoffined -- just as found:
His landmark is a kopje-crest
That breaks the veldt around:
And foreign constellations west
Each night above his mound.

Young Hodge the drummer never knew --
Fresh from his Wessex home --
The meaning of the broad Karoo,
The Bush, the dusty loam,
And why uprose to nightly view
Strange stars amid the gloam.

Yet portion of that unknown plain
Will Hodge for ever be;
His homely Northern breast and brain
Grow to some Southern tree,
And strange-eyed constellations reign
His stars eternally.

Drummer Hodge by Thomas Hardy

>>1050832
Given a circle cut into equal quarters by two perpendicularly bisecting lines, the the sine function will measure the height, and the cosine function will measure the length horizontal. The sine starts at zero height, and the cosine starts at 1 on a unit circle. When the line connecting the origin and the outline of the circle is swept to the vertical, the sine is now 1, and the cosine is zero. The two functions swap values (without regards to negative sign) every quarter turn, hence the 90 degree lead of the cosine function.

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

What skills and abilities do you think it would be useful for more people to learn?

I'm 21 and I can't really do anything, I'm kinda grasping as straws trying to figure out what to do.

>>1050852
That's a great find.

Francis Bacon, how can we save >>1043381 ?

The "Write a short story in exactly six words" thread?

Can we do this by going to http://4chanarchive.org/
Press "Request interface"
Select /lit/
Enter thread id, "1043381"
Write captcha
Submit!
Very important question.

What are your spiritual and physical beliefs?

>>1050882
How I do I archive a thread?

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What is the difference between fruits, compounds fruits, false fruits, vegetables, true berries, false berries and drupes?

Everytime I try to research this I get very confused. Could you outline the differences in a simple manner?

>>1050875

Be a welder.

>>1050889
Thanks Francis Bacon? Would you suggest the people archive this thread?

>>1050885
" It is true, that a little philosophy inclineth man’s mind to atheism; but depth in philosophy bringeth men’s minds about to religion."

-Francis Bacon

I'm very much found this to be true.

The thinking pattern of they day seems to be: "Well, since the world is full of bad things, and I'm unhappy, that means God doesn't exist.". It is easiest to come up with pseudo-reasonings for the non-existence of unseen intelligences, but if the same amount of time was spent searching for its existence or trying to find it through logic, I believe their beliefs would be much different.

I'm certain, that in infinity; and in realms of existence below and beyond time, there is a mind at work.

What's your favourite instrument?

What do you never see an old man eating?

This is my body, & I'm kinda shy.

How would I even start to go about seducing a mature women?

>>1050930
Aren't you just morping something scarily not understandable by a human mind to something you are comfortable not understanding: a member of the same species and gender.

>>1050944
How is it that this is so true?

I do not have any memory of an old man eating. At all.

Is there even any photographic evidence?

>>1050952
No. That is why they die.

>>1050930
Good quote, I'd have to say I agree with it and you too. Whether it's an omniscient, omnipresent and/or omnipotent, conscious being is open to personal interpretation and belief - nowadays the word 'Universe' seems to be becoming more and more popular among the new-age believers.

My next question, I guess, is why or how you claim to be 'certain' of such a statement? Personal experience? A comfortable level of ignorance (no offense intended)? Active choice, while still holding an open enough mind to potentially accept something else?

>>1050948
Are you implying that science is any different?

>>1050948
Most great mathematicians have had a strong connection to the divine. Cantor and Godel are two in particular.

And yes, any Creator would exist in a realm unfathomable. I enjoy something akin to Plato's "world" of mathematical truth. It has no place, and no time.

>>1050968
Don't you feel like you are, erm, "offending" the universe by being certain about the highest state of the natural and supernatural world with one puny human brain? Don't you feel like that is something nobody should be certain of?

Yeah, Francis. You seem fairly ignorant.

Quantum mechanics suggests that we know nothing, that - even - nothing is real. Yet you claim certainty of bizarre and outrageous claims.

>>1050930
>>1050968
Isn't relying on a "deeper level of philosophy" and the words of great mathematicians just a great way to be a unextraordinarily religious and feel superior to both atheists and the everyday religious person? It feels like a defense mechanism.

Not to mention he doesn't seem to appreciate art created by man often.

>>1050993
>Quantum Mechanics suggests we know nothing
>nothing is real

I don't know how to respond to such a statement.

>>1050983
Take the word "certain" as "strong belief", then.

>>1050999
Excluding religion and mathematics I guess...

>>1051010
Haven't looked into Quantum mechanics?

>>1051016
The term "Quantum Mechanics" has been bastardized by New Age book peddlers, charlatans, and fools uttering inane statements about ontology.

Don't bother me with it.

>>1051025
That is not quantum mechanics, you see. Read what the physicists say.

That is like saying "I don't care about astronomy, as it has been bastardized by these astrologers".

>>1051025
>Evolution of 'knowledge', or differing theories and supposed understanding of the mystery of life scares me
>Don't bother me with it

>>1051036
As in, don't bother me with ridiculous statements such as: we know nothing, nothing exists etc.

I'm majoring in Physics. I'm aware to a good degree as to what physics is.

>still in university
& so Socrates had shown that the self-proclaimed wise, were not, etc...

>>1051048
"Nothing" doesn't really exists if there's a Higgs field.

>>1050968
Most great mathematicians had a strong dislike of the divine. Russell and Tarski are two in particular.

>>1051072
Russell had a major part of his life's work defeated by Godel's Incompleteness Theorem.

Cantor lives on as well.

More?

>>1051083
Both Cantor and Gödel became crazy towards the end of their lives. Cantor even died in a madhouse.

As a proponent of specific knowledge, that is to say, seeking enlightenment through studying history's great minds to the profundity which you have already displayed, do you at all feel your arguments and opinions, expressed through the use and implied acceptance of rigid, concrete definitions and terms bolster or weaken your arguments?

In other words, is truth a wordless, formless reality, and in attempting to articulate it definitively, you therefore lose something "in translation"?

>>1051130

And if so, could the argument not then be made that fictional writing and other forms of imperfect expression seeking to translate only some smaller fraction of that infinity of knowledge through allegory, allusion, simile, metaphor, and other countless literary devices which, by definition, deny reality, effectively giving the lucid and free-associating mind a clearer understanding?

>>1051124
Yes. And Godel died due to self-induced starvation because of an "obsessive fear of being poisoned" without his wife to check his food.

Einstein had a deist tendency as well, and Godel was one of the people he most respected and enjoyed talking to.

>>1051148
effectively give the*

>>1051150
How does this back your argument? For every religious inspired authority you quote one can find an antagonist.

I propose you elaborate more on physics or philosophy thereof.

>>1051148
I think that Melville and other Romanticist authors understood that quite well. What the author has seen or is imagining can not be directly transmitted, so the meanings are left to allegory and imagery for the reader to match with his own experiences.

The study of how truth is arrived at through words and argumentation, originates in Greece of course. The story of Rhetoric and the Sophists is a very enjoyable one.

What is the artistic concept behind Leonardo's "Vitruvian man" [other than the proportions]?
What are your thoughts on expressionism?

>>1051226
I admit that I'm not an expert on the arts.

I get the feeling of a blueprint of the man when I see that painting. And I'm it resounded with the idealism and religiosity of the time.

>>1051271
Are you not the "Master of knowledge" ?

Is general relativity a non deterministic theory?

H-holy fuck, this guy may have read over a dozen books. I'm backing away now--eyes cast down, groveling, and dribbling a mix of urine and my own acrid, fear-tainted sweat as I slither back to my shame-lair.

I challenge you to prove me wrong that I am the universe.

I'm in my little bubble that I can influence with my beliefs, the things I seemingly don't have control over are in the control of my sub-conscious, that's why when I became a better person less bad things happened in the world. Other people may or may not be in their own little bubbles connected to mine.

>>1051271

What are your thoughts on the subject of fate versus determinism?

>>1051281
In its original application it was not, as the mathematics was not probabilistic. It's a matter of popular awareness that general relativity has not yet been fully reconciled with "Quantum Mechanics", so the question is meaningless, as it is in incomplete theory.

>>1051295
Roger Penrose and Stuart Hameroff have made strong arguments for the mind as non-deterministic.

On a personal level I've seen a sort of Karma at work, in a sense that what-goes-around-comes-around.

>>1051296
honestly, did you ever attend a GR class?

>>1051308
Here's one of his books.

Forgive me of this is a stupid question, but I desire only to learn from my social betters: what is your opinion on turkey bacon, and do you get royalties from it?

>>1051311
No. I've been talking out of my ass. Haven't you been paying attention?

Anyways, I've got to go. I think a fair share of my knowledge has been imparted.

Good night /lit/.

good night dear fraud

>>1051308
Interesting, but do you have any thoughts of the universe as a whole in this regard?

Is the universe but one massively complex pattern that we have no hope of comprehending? Or is it the very nature of its complexity that lends us the ability to believe in determinism?

I would ask: if we cannot know our fate, then is there a correct answer as to whether or not it exists?

>>1051296
Seems like you know nothing about general relativity. The problem of naked singularities still exists without the context of quantum mechanics. Also since when is a physical theory required to be causally closed?

>>1051326
What am I supposed to do with all this turkey bacon you miserable fuck?

>>1051362
Yeah and a lot of mathematical proofs still have problems without the context of the number 3.

>>1051380
could you elaborate on this?

>>1051387
No, I don't want to set a president.

>>1051380
It seems to me you mistook the importance of numbers in mathematical proofs.

>>1051399
Try raising something to the 3rd power without a 3, Feinstein.

>>1051402
easy, but i think you can work it out yourself. i'll just hint at zfc.