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This is the real 2017 chart, or at least as real as we are gonna get.

Do not entertain the /pol/ Discordfag who is running a "poll" as s vehicle to push his shitty memes. There is no "discord" boogeyman rigging his poll except for his own Discord.

>> No.10499066

>>10499048
This is seriously better than what the current poll has so far, which is pathetic.

But it's probably ran by the same people anyway.

Sage and report both.

>> No.10499121

>>10499048
Is cunts didn’t vote for Culture of Critique, it wouldn’t be there. I’m tired, here’s a very open poll: http://www.strawpoll.me/14776329

>> No.10499144

>>10499048
>This is the real 2017 chart
I agree
>>10499121
back to pol

>> No.10499266

Can someone please explain why finnegans wake is so high up when nobody has read it?

>> No.10499270

>>10499266
speak for yourself

>> No.10499502

>>10499121
no one cares

>> No.10499576

>>10499121
this faggot is literally having a mental breakdown in the other thread
just like he did every other time he tried to do a stupid poll
top kek

>> No.10499603
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>>10499576
But I’ll finish. And everything will be documented. So it doesn’t matter. At the end of this, there will be a 2017 chart which represents the state of /lit/, and not the state of some random /lit/cord.

To reiterate, I’ve never done this before. The way this is going I won’t attempt it next year either.

>> No.10499608

>>10499603
No one cares.

/lit/ doesn't need these charts. All they do is attract redditors.

You sound like a redditor.

>> No.10499614

>>10499603
How exactly do we know you're not another discordfag as well? You act just like them. Power tripping bitch ass.

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>>10499608
>spacing
>calls me the redditor
They seem to have had enough interest 2014-16.

>> No.10499620

>>10499614
All of these charts are being made by Discord groups. They're cancer.

>> No.10499639

>>10499266
HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


this TOTAL IDIOT hasnt read Finnegan's Wake

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>> No.10499644

>>10499619
>They seem to have had enough interest 2014-16.
from imgur users unfortunately. if /lit/ was a board seeking new posters that would be great, but /lit/ IS a board of new posters.

That said, years of shilling Llosa Cather Kawabata and Stendahl seems to finally be succeeding

>> No.10499648

>>10499048
>self-proclaimed power users attention whoring and acting as an authority on the tastes of an entire board

we are witnessing the death throes of /lit/

>> No.10499651

who cares, top 100 charts are reddit af. Go read instead baka

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>>10499644
As I said in the earlier threads, Redditors>/pol/fags, simply because they’re actually going to stay out of /clg/.

>> No.10499657

>>10499654
Stfu bitch Redditor.

>> No.10499658

>>10499648
while discord/goodreads lords are ridiculous, they are the ones who have kept a nugget of quality. 50% of this board is homework/beginning readers with no depth or integrity. I cant even find recommendations here anymore. Where oh where have sunhawk and sebastian gone, where are /tg/ tier autists of literature now?

>>10499654
I agree with you, and there are worse things then reddit immigrants reading Sebald, but the real result tends to be 10x ready player one threads and riveting discussion coming from new blood meridian readers

>> No.10499675

A lot of this is rubbish.
Firstly you have a lot of books, like the bible, the iliad, Shakespeare and Chaucer, that are there not because they are good but because they are influential.
Secondly The Gormenghast Trilogy. I like the trilogy but only the frist two books. The third is complete and utter shite.
James Joyce.

>> No.10499677

>>10499658
stfu you discord fucking cuck

this isn't about books and shit, this is about board fucking culture

I've been on this chan since 06, and this discord namefaggotry shit would make any true oldfag fucking disgusted

>they keep a nugget of quality

WOOOOOW. fucking WOOOOW. who the fuck cares. Again this isn't about who can be the most pretentious about books, this is about board culture and some pretentious arrogant namefag fucks trying to mess with the anonymous principles of fucking 4chan.

If you're not angry about this then get the fuck out.

>> No.10499680

>>10499677
if i were you I would self-immolate desu senpai

>> No.10499681

>>10499677
You OK buddy?

>> No.10499692

>>10499681
it's just the usual discord shitposter LARPing
they enjoy getting mentioned
when it stops they have to do it themselves

>> No.10499747

>>10499692
what this guy said
you wouldn't get this kind of faggotry back on the IRC
it's a shame the IRC died
far superior to the idiotic way discord works

>> No.10499754

>>10499677
>muh discords
Kill yourself bud

>> No.10499757

>>10499747
yep I agree too
IRC had the best people
discord is unfortunately ran by people with
no respect for the quality of IRC

>> No.10499871

>>10499266
a flat headed discord chink

>> No.10499896

>>10499048
So whens the top 10 chart of 2017?

Oh wait thats right this faggot board just circlejerks the same old books forever and ever never reading anything new.

>> No.10499947

>>10499896
>this faggot board just circlejerks the same old books forever and never reads anything

ftfy

>> No.10499952

>>10499896
reminder that there is an oldguard of goodreads fags that are constantly delving into experimental and obscure literature

>> No.10499956

>>10499952
wow another namefag community?

gtfo

>> No.10499962

>>10499952
Yes. I see them posting about obscure things all the time. Have faith, if everyone reads enough, no matter if the userbase goes down, good discussion will be had!

>> No.10499963
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10499963

>>10499956
gotta say, im happy that youve chosen to remain in this ivory tower of intellectual froth

>> No.10499979

>>10499066
>This is seriously better than what the current poll has so far, which is pathetic.
>Random small group picking is slightly more interesting than a large group poll.
Yeah no shit. It's not even better, it's the same shit.

>> No.10500151

>>10499048
I’m a newfag to /lit/. I just want a list of good shit to read, instead I find a bunch of retards arguing over what is the best list.

Is there an archive somewhere of all the previous lists? I really want to start reading again

>> No.10500156

>>10500151
There's some charts and shit on the wiki.

http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki//lit/_Wiki

>> No.10500166

>>10500151
You could do worse than follow OP's list, fake or not (like taking a clue from the previous polls which have Murakami and Vonnegut in them).

>> No.10500191

>>10500151
just read canonical works, can't go wrong with them

look up Bloom's Canon or most other great book lists

The Odyssey and the Iliad by Homer (~12th - ~8th century BCE)
Major Plays of Aeschylus (456 BCE)
Major Plays of Sophocles (406 BCE)
The Holy Bible (~8th century BCE - 1st century CE):
Genesis
Exodus
Daniel
Ecclesiastes
Job
Psalms
Romans
Gospels (Matthew, Mark, John, Luke)
Revelation
Proverbs
Apocrypha
The Aeneid by Virgil (19 BCE)
The Divine Comedy by Dante (1307)
Don Quixiote by Miguel de Cervantes (1605)
The Complete Works of William Shakespeare (1616)
Paradise Lost by John Milton (1667)
Faust (Part I and II) by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1808, 1832)
Eugene Onegin by Alexander Pushkin (1833)
The Major Tales of Nikolai Gogol (1840s)
Moby Dick by Herman Melville (1851)
Madame Bovary by Gustave Flaubert (1856)
Crime and Punishment by Fyodr Dostoevsky (1866)
Major Plays of Henrik Ibsen (1870s)
Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy (1877)
Dubliners, Ulysses, and Finnegans Wake by James Joyce (1914, 1922, 1939)
The Magic Mountain by Thomas Mann (1926)
The Sound and the Fury by William Faulkner (1929)
The Aleph and Other Stories by Jorge Luis Borges (1949)
The Recognitions by William Gaddis (1955)
Pale Fire by Vladimir Nabokov (1962)
Gravity’s Rainbow by Thomas Pynchon (1973)

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>>10499048
>>10499066
>>10499144
>>10499502
>>10499576
>>10499608
>>10499614
>>10499620
>>10499644
>>10499657
>>10499658
>>10499677
Autism

>> No.10500334

fuck your chart and fuck your discord.

>> No.10500345

>>10500334
nice try discord fag

>> No.10500479

>>10499677
>Mom, I'm fitting in on 4chan!

>> No.10500500

>>10500156
Thank you anon, this is exactly what I was looking for.
>>10500166
I don’t know who either of those authors are. I take it you recommend steering clear?
>>10500191
Thanks anon, I actually forgot about the odyssey. Gonna have to read that. I’ve read about 1/3 of the Bible, guess I should finish it up, it’s just so boring... the rest of those books have promising names instead of modern shit like “the fall” “the rest” “the maker” etc just sound retarded from the lack of thought out into names.

>> No.10500508

Fake chart, accepting it is akin to being cucked.

>> No.10500532

>>10500508
>cucked
just go back to pol

>> No.10500627

>the aeneid at 86
You should all be ashamed of yourselves

>> No.10500847

>>10499048
For real what the fucks the point of charts? They're pretty much invalid for anything beyond a top 20, and the top 20 are just the same meme shit year after year. It provides nothing but an influx of outsiders.

>> No.10501092

>>10499757
Faggot detected.

>> No.10501323

>>10500627
no we shouldn't

>> No.10501564

>>10499675
>the Bible, chaucer and Shakespeare aren't good
Get a load of this absolutely pleb

>> No.10501566

>>10500847
It is for fun, anon.

>> No.10501571

>>10500847
>>10501566
it's for "powerusers" like surveyautist to try to attention whore

>> No.10501574

>>10500500
People who suggest to avoid Vonnegut or Murukami are pseuds. Check them out, but they may be a little below you in the end.

>> No.10501587

>>10501571
Just like the poweruser anons who made the past three years' top 100? They've garnered many (You)s and infamy from those classic posts and threads they created.

(The joke is, no one knows who those people are, and no one will know who this guy is. The chart lasts, and everyone forgets the rest.)

>> No.10501605

>>10501574
you read V and M in middle/high school naturally. if you havent read them by then there's no poinmt to go back to read them , you're not missing anything

>> No.10501633

>>10501587
they're all shit and /lit/ is worse off for them
you're probably one of those chart making fags
kys

>> No.10501655

>>10501633
your brain is GONE my dude

>> No.10501660

>>10501605
Nah, I think you can check them out on your own and come to whatever conclusion. Maybe that anon would enjoy their whimsy.

>> No.10502730

>>10500191
The absolute plebbery.

>> No.10502755

>>10499603
It's common to not see images on /lit/ because we're not 18 years old anymore. We're not even 20.

We read fucking thick non-fiction books, and when we do read fiction it is fucking intense shit like Thomas Pynchon.

Let me tell you, /lit/ usually does not see image posts for this very reason. WE READ HERE, AND WE DON'T LIKE TO PAY ATTENTION TO SHITTY TRIPFAGS POSTING ANIME BERNIE SANDERS IN A DAMN THREAD

RAWWWRRRRRRRRRR

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>>10502755
It’s an imageboard. If you’ve outgrown posting images, leave.

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>>10502772
i got sum of what u want

>> No.10503524

>>10502755
Not even sure if you're pretending to be autistic or if you actually are a massive sperg.

>> No.10503532

>>10502772
When's the list gonna be finished. Don't keep me waiting pls

>> No.10503534

>>10499048
Why fuse OT and NT? The old is of much higher literary worth than the new

>> No.10503555

>>10500191
>skipped Euripides
Based.
>skipped Aristophanes
No.

>> No.10503569

>>10500191
What are the major works of Aeschylus?

>> No.10503764

>>10503569
Oresteia and Prometheus Bound (so, basically, half of his extant works).

>>10500151
The 2016 list was pretty good (if you ignore Jerusalem and Bottom's Dream, which are meme books nobody has read at that point).
Overall, however, you shouldn't trust /lit/ too much. Try to find a book on the history of literature, a good one will function like a massive to-read list that will give you knowledge and context far better than /lit/'s patchwork of memes and surface-level classics.

>>10499952
Really? I have been on GR for quite a while and in these new threads I don't see anyone from the old guard posting.

>> No.10505134

what exactly is taking so long for the new chart? are the tiebreaker votes in?

>> No.10505221

>>10503555
What are the major works of Aristophanes?

>> No.10505253

>>10499619
The lists from 2015 and 2016 got 1 million plus views on imgur and were posted all over reddit. The amount of genre-fiction trash posted in the subsequent months made it pretty obvious how much reddit influence those charts had on the board.

>> No.10505290

>>10505221
Naw fuck that guy

>> No.10505409

>>10499048
based chart

>> No.10505543

No Les Mis or Houellebecq? Trash chart.

>> No.10505565

Wait there was a vote? I totally missed it what the hell.

or is this discord shananigans again?

>> No.10505730

>>10501587
That’s the goal. Since the other thread reached the catalog I’ll be posting the chart in a few hours.

>> No.10505734

>>10505565
It was up for a week, because someone posted to ask about it on the 30th and I didn’t want to do it too far into 2018.

>> No.10505970

>>10505730
Post now pls I don't want to have to wade through the archive for it when I wake up.

>> No.10506110

>>10505734
alright, how many votes?

>> No.10506141

>>10506110
around 400 were considered valid.

>> No.10506332

>>10505734
>>10505730
>>10505565
>>10505970
>>10506110
>>10506141
stop samefagging
no one else cares about your stupid rigged vote
stop pretending "other anons" care

sage and report all poll threads, sage and report all chart threads

>> No.10506347

>>10500191
>>10503555
Euripides was the greatest greek dramatist, only plebs will disagreee.

>> No.10506353

>>10506332
evaporate, fool

>> No.10506372

>>10505730
Looking forward to it anon, I appreciate it.
>>10506332
The doc is freely available in the catalog, you can go and verify. Just as the doc of the fake 2017 poll was available which is, along with the screenshots, what exposed them.

>> No.10506385

>>10506353
>>10506372
stop samefagging.

>> No.10506400

>>10506385
EVAPORATE!
be gone!

>> No.10506413

lmao this chart was made by 15 /lit/scord faggots who by no means represent the general opinions of this board

>> No.10506447

>>10506413
Also their taste is complete shit because everything they added was just boring novels exclusively from the 20th century. No poetry, no philosophy, and they had the fucking gall to act like they're arbiters of taste just cause IJ isn't in the top fucking 10.

>> No.10506456

>>10506447
>philosophy
go back to /his/ brainlet

>> No.10507243

bump for real chart

>> No.10507699

why isn't there a /lit/ discord? i want one

>> No.10508479

>>10507699
anon...

>> No.10508792

>>10503555
I am sure you will call me pleb but I did not like Aristophanes at all. Of all the works from Antiquity I read, his might be the only ones that I actively disliked. A lot of it is just the equivalent of an SNL skit with strawmen of various political figures.
The Frogs is pretty good though, so it's not all bad.

>> No.10509833

>>10508792
this anon is correct

>> No.10510289

>>10499048
>no Lolita
It's shit

>> No.10510292

>>10499048
Nope that's the fake chart

>> No.10510298

>>10499048
This top 100 is as bad as the other.

>> No.10510310

>>10510289
you need to go back

>> No.10510349

>>10499048
The real top 10 should be about the same but take out GR and add ISOLT. It's criminally underrated on this list, although since it's a consensus ranking and I doubt most people actually finished ISOLT, I get it.