/lit/ - Literature

>>10480762
me. I'll give you a translation and summarization of his entire philosophy:

>Life doesn't matter so just do whatever crazy shit you want.

>>10480771
Wrong

Its about life mattering so much you only get to experience one life.

I've heard people praise Kaufmann. Basic Writings & The Portable Nietzsche (both collection of Nietzsche translated by Kaufmann) are "value buy".

>>10480762
Kaufmann is good but there's no doubt he sanitized Nietzsche a bit for American audiences to make him more palatable to the post-WW2 sensibility.

Of course to his credit he did actually understand Nietzsche, and that is a rarity in itself.

>>10480771
>2018
>there are people who still think this

>>10480771
>he thinks Frederich was a nihilistic hedonist
>nothing could be further from the truth
lmao at your life senpai

>>10480771
kys, pseud.

>>10480807

> Of course to his credit he did actually understand Nietzsche, and that is a rarity in itself.

Oh jesus, not it is not. It's philistines like you trying so hard to understand a text that whichever explanation given that isn't exactly like the one you fathomed results in someone not understanding him. Nietzsche is fairly straightforward, most definitelty in relation to most other thinkers of his time and before. For real, people like you make academia unnecessarily tedious.

I like the Oscar Levy series of translations. Buy the complete works from the "Barnes and Noble Library of Essential Reading," it has translations from Ludovici, and Haussmann. Pretty good.

Nietzsche was a romantic, far from nihilistic.

>>10481570
>t. didn't understand Nietzsche

>>10480762
You have to learn German in order to understand him in a complete manner.

>>10480771
oooh a subtle gripspill
/lit/ is too pleb to appreciate it

>>10481629
I've always wondered how much philosophy is lost in translation. Wouldn't pure ideas be easier to translate than literature? Also, doesn't the germanic roots of english help at all?

>>10481692
Depends of the philosopher I suppose.

>>10481692
>reading translations
>ever
the worst part is you don't even know how that you don't know

Hollingdale for Zarathustra, Menken maybe for Anti-Christ (if you know you're reading somewhat through his lens), and Kaufmann for anything else. Kaufmann does do a lot of sanitizing Nietzsche, but >>10480807 got it right though:
he does clearly have a thorough, scholarly understanding of Nietzsche. In my opinion he also just is a good writer.
German isn't the hardest language though, so at some point you should probably get around to learning it if you really want to dive deep into Nietzsche, and philosophy in general.

>>10483170
>Kaufmann
>scholarly understanding of Nietzsche
>good writer
I feel sorry for you.

Hollingdale, Clarke, Breazele, or Levy. Those are real scholars, OP.

>>10481570
>For real, people like you make academia unnecessarily tedious.
You mean rigorous