/lit/ - Literature

First for webnoveks are novels too

Second for any publisher I don't like is a vanity press.

>>10374612
>tfw warlock of the magus world will never be rewritten so that it doesn't go off on a tangent and forget to explore the seven layers of the magus world.

Just started black sun rising, it's some good shit.

Has anyone read Radix by Attanasio? I started it once and it seemed like an ok old sci-fi story but then I got distracted by another novel.

I found out that the story goes completely nuts. Is this in a good genre stretching way or does it turn into pothead weirdness?

>>10374589

I just finished reading Blindsight by Peter Watts. First contact novel, hard sci fi.
>late 21st century
>one day everyone looks up and sees thousands of meteorites falling to Earth, but they all burn up without a trace before they can touch down
>Satellite scans show that there were nearly 65,000 of them spaced perfectly evenly around the entire globe
>Nobody knows for sure what it was, but the prevalent scientific opinion is that some kind of extraterrestrial race just took a giant panoramic picture of Earth
>A few years later, a strange object is discovered flying around the Kuiper belt (giant asteroid belt that surrounds our solar system)
>Book is about the team of astronauts they send to investigate it, and what they find

I highly recommend the book, it really was terrific. I also read the sequel, Echopraxia, and was thoroughly disappointed. A total slog to get through and barely referenced the first book. It was more a spinoff.

I'm currently looking for 2 things. 1:
>More alien/first contact novels
>I love hard sci-fi, but I'm also a huge fan of the XCom series UFOs/flying saucers, greys, reptillians, area 51 slightly cheesy type stuff is awesome
>Bonus points for psionics (telepathy, mind control, spoon bending type stuff)

And the second thing I'm looking for is a series that was recommended to me a long time ago that I can't remember the name of. Here's what I remember from the description:

>Fantasy, I believe in a modern setting but it may have been medieval or Victorian
>Main character is a female magic practitioner, similar to what you see in Dresden files but maybe a bit darker?
>I remember he mentioned that it gets into certain kinky or weird subjects, like the main character doing sex magic or cutting herself for certain spells and whatnot

That's the best description I can offer but if somebody could help me out it'd be appreciated.

Container Anon. Any updates on your project?

>>10374669
I read ouroborous record. It's spooky and the mc is more visibly amoral than leylin. he literally lobotomizes his companions to brainwash them into submission. He also is chasing immortality, but he doesn't have any special powers like the ai chip. It's a pity the translation is so slow though.

>>10374689
Bv Larson and Neal Asher for your first thing.

>>10374689
The Uplift books by David Brin.

>>10374747
I lost interest in it pretty quickly, he picked up like 4 followers rapidly while sitting in the mountains and has done nothing with them.

>mfw skipped over the academy entirely

Also erasing number ones mind killed anlot of the interest I had in the series, her devotion was kawaii while it was genuine.

Fuck, I'm dealing with some serious writers block here. I basically created nothing in the previous two days and today I couldn't meet my minimal daily word goal. I think I've wasted more time rewriting this act than I have on literally any other act in the book since I started up again a few months ago

I'm reading Persepolis Rising. The latest Expanse. Any other fans of the series on here? Or is that one of those popular series we're all meant to hate like ASoIaF or something

You ever read a book with a bummer ending? How'd you handle it?

I'm writing a book (who isn't, right?) right now where the climax blows up in the MC's face. They achieve their goal, and a grand new door of opportunity opens itself to them. However the price they had to pay would be difficult for anyone to live with; it was much greater than they anticipated.

I worry the somber ending will turn off too many potential Book 2 readers.

>inb4 implying I'll have readers

>>10374985
"High stakes" are more believable, so to speak, when there's an actual risk something of value is lost, as opposed to stories where the author serves up loads of hypothetical "danger" to a protagonist who never actually stubs his toe. Look at how people come back to Game of Thrones.

>>10374804
also known as, the standard process of writing a book.

>>10375040
I'm not sure if I'm catching your meaning, but it could be sleep deprivation.

Up until the climax, the plot and character arcs follow the typical formula and beats. MC gets much more than a stubbed toe along the way. But the MC does get what they wanted as a result of their actions. Its just, getting there may have resulted in more detriment than benefit.

Think about the final act of Return of the Jedi. Remember how the Death Star II starts blowing up Rebellion ships, before Lando helps blow it up?
Imagine a version in which, for whatever reason, so much of the Rebellion is lost, that by the time you blow up the Death Star, you're left wondering if the price is worth what you bought. Something that would leave the readers thinking, "was there really no better way?"
I want the readers to feel distraught, but eager to know what happens next. (but they'll have to wait for Book 2, haha suckers)

I'm worried about fucking up that balance.

Anyone else in /sffg/ WRITING? Working on a story about a guy and his friend who try to live their lives after the equivalent of fifty years in a grimdark-dreampunk world. One of the survivors helps people and gradually accepts the decisions he had to make while the other becomes a junkie of all kinds trying to get the feeling back.

>>10371011
>Steerpike from Gormenghast did nothing wrong

>>10374954
I read Persepolis but it was really boring and the visual presentation was webcomic-tier, really disappointing. I had no idea it turned into SF.

Is this good? Gonna read it later this month. And I did like his broken empire trilogy. Haven't read the other one set in the same universe though.

>>10374985
Most stories where the mc loses his powers and doesn't continue adventuring bum me out.
Looking at you, david eddings.

>>10375185
Writer fag here, that sounds interesting. I'm working on a web novel that I can't quite find a way to start.

Anybody have any experience with those pre-written plots?

>>10375387
>pre-written plots
wut

>>10375414
this is what happens with guys who wen to writing school and stuff like that they have themes they want to horse shoe into a book and already have a basic plot regarding how to horse shoe said theme

to me true creativity is just flying by the seat of your pants

>>10375238
I wouldn't say that Corey's strong point has ever been visual presentation. I'm enjoying it well enough though, even if it's probably mid-tier in terms of the series.

>>10374804
No one cares.

>>10375414
It's like using someome elses plot map to develop a story.

>>10374804
However bad it is you arent worse than GRR Martin.

>>10374689
>A few years later, a strange object is discovered flying around the Kuiper belt (giant asteroid belt that surrounds our solar system)

The object was already discovered it was just considered a statistical artifact until that event made everyone go super paranoiac

Echopraxia is actually the better book...

Speaking of WoT, the only romance plot in fantasy that has happened to be bearable to me is the one between Mat and Tuon. What went so right? Was it the brown loli?

>>10375387
>>10375185
>>10374985
>>10374804
>>10375159
I thought we got rid of you fuckers ages ago. Scram.

>>10375523
>i don't even read evidenced by my continuing of wot yet i know about different romance plots

>>10375456
not exactly
WoT for example was "pre-written", jordan already knew what he was to write

>>10374589
>what sff novel you reading
Manifold: Time by Stephen Baxter
>what's it about
Preventing a soon-catastrophe from annihilating the human race, and keeping humanity's survival infinite, past entropy (from what I gather, I'm around 60%ish atm)
>recommend a book from what you read this year to the general
Luminous by Greg Egan

>>10374673
HOLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FUCKING SHIT I HAVE WAITED YEARS
YEARS
FUCKING YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAARS
FOR SOMEONE TO TALK ABOUT RADIX WITH
I actually don't remember much about Radix but the other three books in that tetrad are pretty fucking wild.
>thinking Attanasio was smoking mere pot when he wrote these

Is there any more watershed cyberpunk books besides Neuromancer and Snowcrash?

>>10375551
so he wrote the story then wrote it again?

>>10375543
How do you expect new books to read if no one is writing them?

>>10375589
>implying that fagolah reads

>>10375576
You write up a "plot map," it's essentially the whole novel in cliff notes.
Then you flesh out the scenes and characters.
Then you write the whole story.

It's a common practice for people who enjoy an ordered writing method.

>>10374589
>>what sff novel you reading
The Foundation Trillogy Omnibus
>>what's it about
Space Jews
>>recommend a book from what you read this year to the general
I read Malazan Book of the Fallen, but everyone here has read that.

So I'm going to suggest Swords and Deviltry

>>10375617
seems constrictive to any sort of epiphany that may come along during the writing experience

keep being held back i'm going to push the boundaries

>>10375622
>I barf on paper
So you need an editor.

>>10375561
Synners, Islands in the Net, Schismatrix, Mirrorshades, arguably The Stars My Destination.

>>10374589
>what sff novel you reading
The Book of the Long Sun. I took a break at halfway to read some Keats, picking it back up.

>recommend a book
>SF
Permutation City by Greg Egan. I had heard vaguely what it was about but synopses truly do not do it justice.

>Fantasy
The Green Knight's Squire by John C. Wright. If you've ever been interested in paladins at all then you should read this. Also, Wright successfully brings some increasingly-obscure medievalisms into modern language.

>>10375622
if you have a ephiphany you just rewrite the plot map

>>10375622
You'll find that plot maps typically produce far more creative works.

The thing with the map is that you can re:write the entire story in less than an hour at a moments notice.
Goodluck doing that writing as you go.

>>10375561
Fuck >>10375627 this guy, read True Names and Vurt. Actually Mirrorshades is right.

>>10375654
>>10375651
>>10375626
>i need muh plot maps or i'm lost guys help...

>>10375661
Post some lines.

>>10375657
>True Names
Yeah that's a good one. As for Vurt, I'm not sure I'd count it as cyberpunk.

None of those books I listed are great on their own, and they aren't as seminal to the subgenre as Neuromancer, but they are major works of cyberpunk in its original form (except The Stars My Destination, which is proto-cyberpunk).

>>10375668
you first

>>10375589
Does this look like the writer's general to you?

>>10375612
I read 91 books this year so far. How many you read?

>>10375682
92.

>>10375676
I'm not a writer, pal.

There are any good epic fantasy books like WoT?
I know WoT isnt perfect but its fuckin amazing

>>10374801
I think it's a good allegory for the lack of trust modern man operates in. The Medieval people are constantly surprised and appalled because he acts like a merchant, but all modern men are merchants. I find it interesting to read.

>>10375185
I'm slowly working on starting a fantasy comic

I have e-reader but everytime when i see a good cover on book i want to buy it instantly. How to deal with shit and should i at all?

>>10375865
> How to deal with shit and should i at all?
what did he mean by this?

>>10375818
Yeah it's definitely a great read, watching him mind break his slave just upped my standards for later chapters too much.

I miss it so much, /sffg/. Every day I google "winds of winter news" to no avail. I CAN'T COPE WITH THIS.

>>10375865
I just download the artwork since they're more hi-res than what you get on the physical book.

>>10375543
wordart I just want you to know you make whatever thread you're in very unpleasant.

>>10375892
I've stopped caring at this point

>>10375892
We're not in one of the good timelines, anon

>>10375896
Nope, doesn't help.

>>10375793
No.

>>10375865
>they reused gurms quote for the first book, but removed the part about being a new author
cheeky

>>10375933
Depends on your definition of "good."

>>10375933
Noooo, not the nuggies house!

>>10375523
It was the closest to it, but sanderson fucked it in the end by leaving it open if Tuon actually loved mat or not.

Just like sanderson fucked all of Mat up.

>>10376079
That might've been planned by Jordan. He intended to write a sequel about Mat and Tuon reclaiming Seanchan after all.

>>10376079
Sanderson said that all of the character's endings except Perrin saving Faile were written by Jordan before he died.

>>10376091
>No Mat spin off ever

Dont remind me of this feel.

>>10376097
Yea, that one still stings.

>>10375972
http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2010/03/cmap-6-why-did-you-pick-such-a.html
>The review quotes on the back cover/inside the front matter ... obviously, good reviews are gold dust. But you don't need good lemons to make lemonade. If Kirkus Reviews say of a hardback "this was an exercise in meretricious misogyny, stunning in the depths of it's depravity", do not be surprised if you subsequently see a back-cover quote like this: "Stunning — Kirkus". (In general, the longer the quote, the more likely it is to accurately reflect the review. But see above about the purpose of a book cover.)

Russia Today reviews on the back cover always make me laugh. Really you couldn't find somebody better than Pravda to talk up the book?

>They will pay, Lews Therin growled. I am the Lord of the Morning
I wish he had just assumed control of rand when this happened

>>10374589
Old dino anon here, I haven't posted in ages because the threads got overrun by retarded Sanderson posters and Bakker shills. It's just not interesting reading about contrived world building and juvenile edge.

>>10375552
I remember this book sparked an unhealthy obsession with this
http://www.anthropic-principle.com/?q=anthropic_principle/doomsday_argument
and I still don't know if it's complete nonsense or a valid
browsing the net you get both extremes
"Why am I alive now? Suppose we do go on to colonize the Galaxy. Then most of the humans who ever live will be vacuum-sucking cyborgs in some huge interstellar empire. And it's far more likely that I'd be one of them than what I am. In fact the only pop curve where it's reasonably likely that we'd find ourselves here, now, is..." "The crash," said Emma."
Full of mindfucks like these.this book

>>10376358
>tfw I read both dino and Sanderson

>>10376358
>I haven't posted in ages because the threads got overrun by retarded Sanderson posters
Don't be so dramatic. Oathbringer wasn't released that long ago. They'll go away eventually.

>>10376593
To be fair I'm not reading almost any fantasy these days, only did a reread of Lotr and New Sun this year.
And I don't think they'll go away, just maybe replaced by some other boring and video gamey author.

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'I stopped very gently and sat upon the Time Machine, looking round. The sky was no longer blue. North-eastward it was inky black, and out of the blackness shone brightly and steadily the pale white stars. Overhead it was a deep Indian red and starless, and south-eastward it grew brighter to a glowing scarlet where, cut by the horizon, lay the huge hull of the sun, red and motionless. The rocks about me were of a harsh reddish colour, and all the trace of life that I could see at first was the intensely green vegetation that covered every projecting point on their south-eastern face. It was the same rich green that one sees on forest moss or on the lichen in caves: plants which like these grow in a perpetual twilight.

'The machine was standing on a sloping beach. The sea stretched away to the south-west, to rise into a sharp bright horizon against the wan sky. There were no breakers and no waves, for not a breath of wind was stirring. Only a slight oily swell rose and fell like a gentle breathing, and showed that the eternal sea was still moving and living. And along the margin where the water sometimes broke was a thick incrustation of salt—pink under the lurid sky. There was a sense of oppression in my head, and I noticed that I was breathing very fast. The sensation reminded me of my only experience of mountaineering, and from that I judged the air to be more rarefied than it is now.

'Far away up the desolate slope I heard a harsh scream, and saw a thing like a huge white butterfly go slanting and fluttering up into the sky and, circling, disappear over some low hillocks beyond. The sound of its voice was so dismal that I shivered and seated myself more firmly upon the machine. Looking round me again, I saw that, quite near, what I had taken to be a reddish mass of rock was moving slowly towards me. Then I saw the thing was really a monstrous crab-like creature. Can you imagine a crab as large as yonder table, with its many legs moving slowly and uncertainly, its big claws swaying, its long antennae, like carters' whips, waving and feeling, and its stalked eyes gleaming at you on either side of its metallic front? Its back was corrugated and ornamented with ungainly bosses, and a greenish incrustation blotched it here and there. I could see the many palps of its complicated mouth flickering and feeling as it moved.

'As I stared at this sinister apparition crawling towards me, I felt a tickling on my cheek as though a fly had lighted there. I tried to brush it away with my hand, but in a moment it returned, and almost immediately came another by my ear. I struck at this, and caught something threadlike. It was drawn swiftly out of my hand. With a frightful qualm, I turned, and I saw that I had grasped the antenna of another monster crab that stood just behind me. Its evil eyes were wriggling on their stalks, its mouth was all alive with appetite, and its vast ungainly claws, smeared with an algal slime, were descending upon me.

>>10374985
>planning a sequence
Why do this? I hate authors who are conceited enough to expect us to read a trilogy before they even publish one good book. Your first story should be self contained. Even if you do want to write a sequel, make sure you know exactly when and where you will end, as if your series is just one story that you had to split up out of necessity. But then even then the presumption involved in trying to write a 2,000 page epic as your very first work is off-putting.

>>10375892

>>10376735
This. Mieville did it right, having the three Bas-Lag books as self contained stories with different MCs and only subtle connections between them. Can't stand the Sanderson Cinematic Universe approach.

>>10376776
>the Sanderson Cinematic Universe approach
That's an apt analogy.
It really does remind you of Marvel

Just finished The Quantum Thief, I was wondering if anyone who has read the sequels could say how they compare to the first book?

>while looking for recommendations, constantly see the dresden files books.
>resist them for the longest time because I have a hunch
>finally give in and read the first
>the whole plot gets resolved because he randomly decides to go into the apartment of a murder victim while feeling shitty about himself, lay down on the floor to sleep, wake up, find a roll of film under the bed because he slept on the floor and then minutes later the guy who took the picture actually also comes into the apartment to give him all the info he needs to put the case together.
Why is this allowed? Fucking Deus ex machina.
also:
>Detective
>finds a roll of film in the garden of a guy he's investigating
>doesn't check out what's on the film right the fuck away.
Do the other books get better, or can I expect them to keep going like this? It's was actually kinda alright until he decided the best way to wrap it up was to have a guy come in, explain what's going on and then fuck off again.

>>10376950
I read part of the second one, I didn't really enjoy it as all the new concepts that are never really explained just got exhausting. It was like reading something in a foreign language.
You might be okay with them if you still remember what they were in the first one.

>>10377006
It's never deep literary shit or anything but as far as adventure stories, they do get good. The first genuinely great one (in the already explained terms) is the one with the werewolves, which I wanna say is book 3 or 4, but it's worth muddling through the early stuff to get there.

>>10377045
Hm, I'll stick with it then. Like I said, I somewhat enjoyed the book, but the way he "solved" the mystery, the Author might as well have written: "And then a post it note fell from the sky, with the real killers name on it".

Any good urban fantasy shit?
Already read the Dresden Files and Monster Hunter International.

>>10377272
If you don't hate comic books, Hellblazer is fantastic. Stars an ex-punk who basically gets himself into and out of scrapes constantly. He's literally made a deal with the devil that the devil later regretted.

More than once.

And despite this, one of the most complicated, flawed, human characters I've ever encountered.

>>10377272
Wolfhound Century is pretty good though it's more of a police/espionage thing set in fantasy Russia circa the 1950s.

I've heard the Kate Daniels series is good, somebody here recced it as "Dresden Files but if Dresden wasn't a tool."

>>10377280
Seconding this, love a bit of ol' Constantine. Even if you do hate comics, there's two novels by pulp maestro John Shirley that are worth a look.

DUDE FIREMOSS LMAO

>>10375892
ive sort of stopped caring. i guess it's enough to know the show is going to finish at least. grrm has no one to blame but himself though.

>>10375521

Did you have a point, or are you just contradicting him to be petty because he said he didn't like the book you preferred?

>>10377796
My point is that I think it's pretty good. Of course, to each his own, but if you enjoyed the first book chances are really good you'll really like the second.

>>10377842

Fair enough then. Carry on, sir.

>>10375552
As far as I read in Radix, he runs around in a future-city doing normal stuff, just trying to get by in life. I'll start over and see it through this time.

>>10375561
I'm seconding Vurt, Mirrorshades, and Synners. Vurt is one of my favorite books.

>character blows a perfect disguise because he was horny
stainless steel rat is fun

>>10377280
>>10377272
Also the ML Carey Felix Castor novels are literally just hellblazer with the slightest tweaks to make it original and Carey was one of the best hellblazer writers

Also Rivers of London is decent enough but not really brilliant

>>10376950
The second one is on Earth and it's Arabian Nights, it's not as strong as the first one but I liked it a lot, and the third one is on Mars and Saturn and flashbacks and it was honestly pretty underwhelming. The zoku weren't mythic at all even though imo they were built up to be, the backstory wasn't that great, and the tone was all over the place.

There were some good scenes though, and the sobornost stays classy all the way through. You might as well read them I guess.

>>10378018
It's pretty good, yah.

>>10376358
The Bakker fags were BTFO by his last book being a shit sandwich. Unfortunately, yes, the Sanderson plebs have been out in full force clogging up the last several threads.

>>10378143
Murder aside it reads very similar to Parker but in space and with more wit which is fun

>>10378171
>Sanderson plebs
>not "Sandersonistas"

>Got to the end of my novel in early November going at a rate of an act a month
>now it's nearly mid-December and I'm still half way through rewriting the first act
>Everything's coming out awful and I'm going to need to re-write it again

I didn't realize how much editing sucks

>>10378455
Learn to enjoy it, admire the shit out of your finished product.

Also you should wait a bit before editing, the fresh take is a lot clearer that way.

>>10376776
Sanderson's first book was self contained thou...

just how strong would rand althor be if he wielded the crystal angreal and callandor at the same time?

>>10376413
Yeah, what would far-future humans even call themselves species-wise?

>>10378002
Radix itself does get kind of crazy eventually. I read it when I was way younger and remember labeling it like a sci-fi fanfic. I should reread it sometime.

>>10376413
That's creationist-tier logic.
>suppose we do go on to colonize America
>most of the humans who ever live will be consumer goods-sucking retards in some huge globalist empire
>the only pop curve where it's reasonably likely that we'd find ourselves ancient Hittites is...

>>10378982
He would probably die since the sword is flawed

Show your sffg shelves.

>>10379311

>>10379311

>>10374589
Who else dropped malazan after 100 pages it was just so boring and confusing I didn't get it

>>10380185
Pfft. I didn't even pick it up.

>>10380185
Me. I was just getting my head around the flying castle magic artillery battle, the fat witch, and the possessed girl who apparently got all her development offscreen when we switched to some assassin getting owned in some city we'd never been to and it just felt like I was reading stream-of-consciousness but without the bragging rights.

>>10380195

>>10380214
Maybe Gardens of the Moon is actually just poorly written and/or wrongly sequenced and not some work of genius?

>>10380227
It's literally just a transcribed d&d campaign lol

If Erikson was a good author he'd have fucking shown it by now

>>10380254
but he has shown it, deadhouse gates was great

>>10380282
I am being completely sincere when I tell you I wish I could read that, but I can't skip the first book in a series and the first book in that series is a hot mess.

>>10380294
I was on the verge of giving up on the first book but once I got to darujhistan around page 120 or so it started making more sense, I think part of it is accepting that you aren't meant to understand everything and another part being paying close attention and not for example skipping the little poems or fragments at the start of chapters

>>10380306
>accepting that you aren't meant to understand everything
There are two major ways to write that. You could provide just enough information that it's intriguing, giving the reader a sense of adventure about figuring things out. Or you could write a bad novel and blame the reader for not being patient.

>>10380347
>>10380306
To add to that, the problem wasn't that I couldn't figure out what was going on. I could piece things together just fine. The problem was that I didn't care about any of it because it felt like the pages had fallen out of the novel and had been shoved back in at random. There was no time to get close to any of the characters.

>>10380347
Considering most people who read Malazan find it intriguing and end up loving it, I'd say it's more your problem than the book's.

>please finish your book series I like it
>ugh I as an author owe you nothing but the book you bought do you not understand that you are being entitled and whinny by asking a great author of scifi and fantasy such as myself to finish my book series is literally the same thing as torture and forced labor when you are more of a man and respect women as I do you will understand what it is like to have to write for gross nerds such a yourself also watch my new tv series

What do they mean by this

>>10380457
narcissism

>>10380450
Anon, you are delusional if you think the most common response to GotM is "this is intriguing and I love it." Even fans say "just push through, it gets better later."

mm, nu börjar vemodet göra sig känt igen

>>10380467
I'd say it is a common response because most people do not bother continuing a series they don't like after one book. I know I don't. I loved Gardens of the Moon and that's why I kept reading. And your complaint is apparently "There was no time to get close to any of the characters" which is just ridiculous considering you haven't even met 80% of the cast yet and basically nothing had happened yet in the story. It sounds more like you just failed to grasp the scale and scope of the story and wanted instant gratification. When you didn't get it, you just gave up and called the series bad.

>>10380457
>>10380457
>he cares if the books continue

shit taste confirmed especially if the plot is anything like the show, but yeah grrm is a faggot

>>10380467
yeah but it gets good after 200 pages and has a great climax

>>10380482
>It sounds more like you just failed to grasp the scale and scope of the story and wanted instant gratification.
I wanted some gratification. Any degree of gratification. I got to look through the window at somebody else's D&D campaign.

>When you didn't get it, you just gave up and called the series bad.
I got it, I just didn't care. And I didn't call the series bad. I know it gets good. I called GotM bad because it is.

>>10380526
Battle of pale and assassin duels on the rooftops was pretty gratifying desu

Why didn't Dalinar send Szeth after Amaram instead of Kaladin? We would have gotten to see Nightblood eat an Unmade

>>10380185
It's garbo.

Those of you faggots out there writing, what are you working on? And is anyone interested in getting a chapter or short read for feedback?

>>10380484
It wasn't aimed at gurm.

>>10380720
really sad stupid taste in women she’s had probably 50-100 sexual partners at least and you’ve probably had 3-5, i don’t think she’d ever touch you and i don’t think you could please her. she looks like her organs are in bad shape and the makeup is protecting her SMV. you have bad genes anon, i can tell already. bee careful

>>10380741
Who gives a shit? It's just a pretty picture. You're clearly obsessed about this.

>>10380720
Sent a piece out to Master Review for their fall contest. Just five days now until they announce finalists.

>>10380753
every sign you associate yourself with, every person, utterance, god, joke, friend, enemy, stranger, greeting, utterance affects you eternally and is an angle, a cut on the gem of your soul. You’re an unfeeling fool

>>10380741
>she’s had probably 50-100 sexual partners at least and you’ve probably had 3-5
reeeeeee i unironically fucking hate women because of my sexual shortcomings

>>10380775
Every god? Fucking lol. I should be very careful then.

>>10380484
>grrm is a faggot
It wasn't GURM. Don't you see all the fedoras that were worn while typing this? It was rothy.

>reading The Hobbit
>can't stop myself from picturing the characters as they looked in the movies

Does this make me a brainlet?
I'm enjoying it a lot other than that though.

>>10380925
nah thats natural

Does The First Lensmen hold up or was it just really influential? I'm reading Zamyatin's We now and it's just okay.

>>10380925
I see the old ass animated hobbit characters

>>10381052
Animated Hobbit a best.

You guys are the comfiest

Someone mentioned the Waldo Rabbit series and I'm liking it, it's making me want to write

>>10381052
>that Bilbo

Every time.

I was in a flea market last Saturday and I found pic related for a few cents. I remember reading it when I was a child and was one the most comfiest shit ever. Post comfy books, not necessarily good

>>10381158
The first Foundation book was maximum comfy for me.

>>10381158
Oh man. And the the fifth elephant and Jingo from discoworld

>>10380781
who is this cutie

>>10381158
You're really fucking up if you don't read the rest of the series. Death Gate Cycle is maximum comfortableness.

>>10381329
Yeah I did it but the confiest was dragon wing. Should reread them. The serpent mage creep me out because I have deep sea fear but the rest of the saga was a pleasant read

>there will not be another WMW chapter
>tfw find myself refreshing novelupdates anyway

Finished path of daggers.
The only redeeming part was I AM THE STORM
>elayne tears down the dragon banners in caemlyn
dude wat
why dont ppl understand that they have to follow the dragon
she's a bitch

>>10381975
*folds arms under breasts*

>>10374689
> More alien/first contact novels

Go read Forge of God by Greg Bear. I think it's still my favorite first contact novel. It also has a very different in style sequel Anvil of Stars which you'll either love or hate.

>>10375348
I thought it was very good but it's pretty slow going early on. Maybe 90% build up before it all really gets exciting but worth it.

any good books with a conman as protagonist?

>>10382496
The Stainless Steel Rat

hey gamers should I read Valis or The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch first

Decent general, how long has it been going? Don't think it was here last time I lurked.

Anyway where to go after The Blade Itself? Gene Wolfe? Is there anything better than TBI?

>>10382496
Nightmare Alley. Great book

any books about wacky adventures?
i just finished the second waldo rabbit book and it was kinda fun. are there similar books? maybe with a bit of romance but not the focus of the story. that bit with the ogre was fun.

>>10382537
God it's hard to recommend comedic scifi/fantasy because A) it's rare, almost nobody writes it any more now that Terry Pratchett is dead, and B) humor is so subjective one person might find a book hilarious while to another it's just lame nerd jokes.

Standard recs are Terry Prachett, the Stainless Steel Rat series and Eric Flint's Retief stories.

For newer stuff Patrick Weekes' Rogues of the Republic series was pretty good as I recall. And Joe Zieja's Mechanical Failure series has a very Spaceballs-esque style to it. I've heard the Hard Luck Hank series is also good.

>>10382628
well i read most of terry prachetts book and stainless steel rat.
im looking into the others though.
thanks for the recs.

>>10382496
Going Postal, of course.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKSfel7Bj_E

>>10382656
Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy?

>>10382852
obviously i read those.
i just finished downloading the hard luck hank books and im starting on on them.

>>10382863
Now that I think about it, The Eyre Affair and the rest of the Thursday Next books.
I've read five and it seems they qualify.

>>10382526
It was around for at least 2 years.

>>10382537
Jasper Fforde nursery crimes series was amusing.
Cabal the necromancer series was funny at time.
But they both British humour... So if you an unfunny Americlap it might not work out for you.

>>10382989
I'm surprised Americans like Hitchhikers Guide to be honest.

>>10383057
popularity in america only rose after the move was made from what i remember. when you ask people about the meaning of life theyll know how to answer and cite the movie instead of the book.
reading in general is on the decline in america. dont know how audiobooks are doing though. i imagine they dont sell as well as digital or hardcover but still generate enough revenue to warrant their making.

Is there any way I can justify alcoholic character drinks alcohol with gold flakes constantly and claims they need it, only to go batshit when forced to go cold turkey without changing it to silver and making her a werewolf?

>>10383068
everyone I know who knows the series read the books and hated the movie. (personally I liked the song though)

>>10382496
"Cugel the Clever" and "Cugel's Saga".

>>10383068
Audio books are very popular with truck drivers, since they're generally stuck on the road for 11 hours (the legal limit, but typically longer if they're falsifying records) with only a radio for company, there's enough money that companies can produce what are essentially radio-play adaptions of books.

>>10383153
I feel like most of those people would just listen to Spotify. Anytime I've been in a vehicle in the last few months people just listen to Spotify now.

>reading oathbringer
>haha this is anime but there’s some good characters and a well-built setting
>a fucking child is wacky and crazy and Dalinar is flabbergasted!!1!
>thank god that’s over
>another fucking Shallan “Veil xD” chapter

This shit fucking kills my momentum and it’s taking me so long to get through this book. I stop every night on a Shallan chapter and I don’t want to pick it up the next night.

Thanks for reading my blog

I'm fifty pages from finishing my Book Of The New Sun re-read. The closing volume, Citadel Of The Autarch, is twice as well written as the other book, and its wisdom here is profound e.g. the passages about Primitivity, the dead listening to us, and about the thorn in the rosebush where before Severian's asides had an obscure quality. The cliche about this book is true, it's a lot better the second time around. However, I will hold off reading Urth Of The New Sun until at least another month because I feel Wolfe'd out. This book is a tough act to follow, so it'll probably be something pulpy that doesn't even try to be meaningful. Perhaps this week will call for a couple more of Robert Howard's Solomon Kane short stories.

>>10383177
I've been enjoying following along your little readthrough, though I haven't responded up to this point.

>>10382496
Morningstar by David Gemmell

Any books that are low fantasy/scifi that are feel-good quests? I liked A Knight of The Seven Kingdoms because of how toned down it was. No wars or anything crazy.

>>10383220
Well I haven't gotten into much detail, but I will probably give a little potted summary of Wolfe's preoccupations after I polish off the last book and think for a moment tomorrow. But, as I see it now, book four is mostly about war, the role of leadership and the nature of mankind with reference to the other entities of the world, I notice how Severian calls the Ascians inhuman, while the man-apes and Jonas obtain humanity somehow, but also all of the stories Severian listens to. I'll be more than willing to discuss matters of the book with others, now and in the future, because I'm always lurking.

>reading winter's heart
Faile is a fuckin bitch and i want to murderfuck her
she manages to be worst than egwene

>>10383168
The kid wasn't nearly as bad as she was in the last book.
I REALLY hope she isn't featured because fuck quirky random xd but im actually super smart characters.

>>10383366
We warned you about Faile dawg

>>10383177
I think the best part is Severian's profound insights are based on a total lack of actual comprehension.

Enjoyable. I liked the full embrace of golden age pulp at the end with a rapier battle between two men over the right to "marry" an alien queen of a warrior planet.

any books with lamias?

What's the book that hooked you, anon? What high are you still chasing after all these years?

For me it's The Stars My Destination

>>10383617
A new book is out?

>>10383177
>that fucking cover art
holy shit they dont do book covers like they used to

Did anyone else find Malazan suprisiingly funny?

Tehol and Bugg were hilarious

>>10383307
bumping this question.

comfy western sff slice of life like spice and wolf and other nipponese works?

>>10383815
It's been out, son.

>>10383177
>tfw you haven't read gene wolf

>>10383843
They don't mass produce that kind of artist anymore either.

>>10375521

I think they are equally good.

There is a lot more going on in Echopraxia even without taking into account the chess match of competing superintelligences woven throughout the whole thing. But I don't think that makes it a better book though.

In fact, I can see why some consider it inferior to Blindsight. It is Peter's most challenging work so far. That coupled with his convoluted, brainfuck approach to prose makes it utterly inapproachable to many.

Yeah, you could easily say that people who can't follow his stuff are "stupid", but that would just make you a douche. I'm not talking about people who lack a certain degree of knowledge in whatever field Watts happens to be covering at a given point. And I don't mean to say these people are stupid, they are just very likely disqualified from ever understanding what Watts is going on about.

No, I'm talking about his prose and how I understand that some people just can't get past it. Especially when it gets in the way of piecing together a bigger picture. The way how he describes environments and things that take place in them: the problem is not in that it's hard to follow (which it is), but that often, you'll be convinced you understood what transpired, but it turns out you didn't. And you only find out several pages later. You can find yourself lost in the plot and not because you couldn't understand this-or-that concept, but because you misunderstood who punched who or who exactly said what.

On one hand, I love how he doesn't give a fuck and simply assumes you understand his setting and gadgetry within it from the get-go. Makes Echopraxia in particular feel like you're really there which is really important for that book. But on the other hand, sometimes it feels like he is watching a movie and explaining in detail what he is seeing which comes at the expense of communicating the essence of what happened.

>>10383378
>Lift's book comes along
>turns out she's actually legit retarded
>all the "wise" things she said were flukes
>her spren picked her because he's a moron

>>10383754
None with cute ones.

>>10383759
Anathem. The part at the beginning where the monk is quizzing the handyman about whether or not they burn witches or sacrifice virgins to volcanoes, and it turns out he's perfectly aware what cameras and cell phones are but he just doesn't care what the kids are calling them these days, I think about that a lot, how Stephenson set up a world with the same trappings as ours that was inherently medieval.

>>10374689
>More alien/first contact novels

Try out the Three-Body Problem series. I for one like them, but a fair warning: the books are a bit... Eccentric. Some of the things that happen are a bit hard to swallow due to their far-fetched nature.

Also, the tone is somewhat uneven in that it covers the range from humble realism to completely overblown theatrics that would not be out of place in an anime. May come across unintentionally comical.

Characterization is very strong though. The fact that I was so invested in the characters is what kept me from throwing the book through a window at multiple junctures. That and the fact that I was reading from an e-reader. Obviously, it would be kind of stupid it to throw it away because of a single book series. Also, sometimes there was no window nearby. Or if there was, it was difficult to aim at. Or the window was simply closed. I mean, by the time I'd open it, the moment would pass, I mean, there's enough time to start considering all these things - like, even if you're willing to throw away your e-reader, what if you hit somebody down below? What kind of douche throws things out of a window. You could crack somebody's windshield or poke a small child's eye out. These things are not particularly heavy, but given sufficient velocity, they could really injure a person. Even if you have a sociopathic streak, the e-reader can be traced back to you and then you're facing charges.

>>10384113
Witches of Karres sort of.

>>10384279
>that third paragraph
this is your brain on soy

>>10380551
>pretty anime desu
ftfy

>>10382863
Matt Ruff's Sewer Gas and Electric isn't a comedy but it had a lot of humor

>>10372627
Wheel of Time

>>10376358
I only skim the threads to read WoT-kun's reactions.

>>10380781
Listen here little baby. You're gonna get a lot of hurtful and degrading comments, but that ain't what I'm about. Let me just say, you are perfect the way you are. You hear me sugar? PERFECT. Don't ever change. You deserve anything and everything you want. Stay safe for me, baby girl. >mfw thinking of you hurting
Listen here little baby. You're gonna get a lot of hurtful and degrading comments, but that ain't what I'm about. Let me just say, you are perfect the way you are. You hear me sugar? PERFECT. Don't ever change. You deserve anything and everything you want. Stay safe for me, baby girl.

>mfw thinking of you hurting

>>10380781
Listen here little baby. You're gonna get a lot of hurtful and degrading comments, but that ain't what I'm about. Let me just say, you are perfect the way you are. You hear me sugar? PERFECT. Don't ever change. You deserve anything and everything you want. Stay safe for me, baby girl.

>mfw thinking of you hurting

>>10381975
She a strong independent quinn who don't need no dragon to fight them shadows.

>>10384340
You know, TNotW is the worst book I've ever read hands down, and Rothfuss is a cringefest altogether, yet I can't get myself to hate him... He seems more goofy and autistic. Not a true cunt like Bakker and Erikson that flaunt it on their sleeves.

>>10384347
>worst book he's ever read

you haven't read much, what's wrong couldn't handle someone who failed as much as he succeeded with a big ego?

>>10384353
I don't tend to read shitty books. Unless I have a reason to believe it's worth my time or has a strong beginning, I won't. As it happens I was stuck for the holidays with Rothfuss a few years ago, I think around the time it came out.
And, if you mean what I have against Kvothe, nothing. He wasn't my main problem with it.

>>10384347
>I can't get myself to hate him... He seems more goofy and autistic. Not a true cunt like Bakker and Erikson

Hello.

Your vehement admiration is by no doubt unique. I thoroughly enjoy you going through the effort of reaching out to me, albeit I am completely clueless as what you ever hoped to achieve with that.
Did you imagine me thanking you for your support? Did you imagine me giving you some half-assed words of encouragement?
I am in the process of writing the next book in the series, did you think you would encourage me in some way? The only thing you have accomplished is wasting my time by responding to you when I could be writing the book. Are you happy with that? Does your ego feel fulfilled now that an author has finally replied to you, no doubt you've reached out to many authors, we know your kind. You have delayed my book, but I have no doubt you feel very good with yourself indeed, because you have received a response.

With the upmost love and respect -

Gonna re-write the first chapter of book of the new sun as a litrpg, would anyone read it?

>>10384265
Literally zero chance of a woman in sandersons books not being a perfect strong independent woman who can make no mistakes \
>Shallan oops I infiltrated an elite criminal organization and accidentally do everything right teehee
>But im flawed because Im sad and quirky XD

>>10382943
>I'm red it because I don't come to this particular board much
k

>>10384485
yeah, looking back and trying to find a female character in Sanderson that's just dumb/incompetent and I'm having a hard time. Autistic waifu and her sister in cowboy Mistborn are sort of flawed I guess.

Any good alternate history books?
I've read one about this one historian from 1938 I think that gets transported to 500 AD and modernizes Rome, beats the ERE and unites the Goths.
Any other books like that?

>>10384479
no

>>10383383
>oh no perrin isnt goin to rescue me how will i escape
>moments later
>SPANK ME ROLEN

>>10384221
So. The blindshills whine about Malazan being confusing when it actually explains what is happening? And blindshyte doesn't?

>>10384606
>Autistic waifu
I would kill for her though. Once you get to know her you understand what stress she had keeping her family and their livelihood together. She's cute and you see she actually feels for Wax, and would go the extra mile for him, as he would for her. You can't ask more from an arranged marriage.

>>10383754
A bunch. I can't remember if the were the main feature, nor the name of the books they appeared.

>>10384284
>this is your brain on soy
>What the hell did I just read? out now

>>10384863
It's a new /pol/ meme, you can easily identify these retards based on their words

It comes from some YouTube weirdo who found out that there's a little bit of phytoestrogen in soy (as in many other kinds of food) and they all jumped on the bandwagon thinking that's estrogen and that's why they are a bunch of wimps. I'm not making this up. It's leaking all over /lit/ right now.

>>10384312
That is a large part of the juvenile edge and contrived world building .

>>10384863
>>10384868
Hi soyboys.

Russian cover of "Gloriana: Or The Unfulfilled Queen"

>>10384617
Wolfhound Century by Peter Higgins

>>10384890
City of Stairs

>>10384897
Children of Earth and Sky

>>10384868
>>10384888
But soy was from the David Wong books... And is lit related..

>>10384890
>Gloriana: Or The Unfulfilled Queen"
>Looks interesting
>blurb
>it's from Moorcock
Yea. No thanks.

>>10384897
When did he fight chutulu monsters in city of stairs?

High-Resolution Abercrombie BSC

>>10384902
'Soyboy' has nothing really to do with the actual contents of soy itself, but everything to do with the correlation that soy is popular among effeminate liberal men.

>>10376094
then what had jordan intended to do with faile
let her liv forever with rolan while perrin is desperate?

>>10375521
>akshully
I think, if I remember correctly, the small statistical spike discovered before Firefall was the brown-drawfish thing itself, and the Ship wasn't discovered until after the probes got fugged by the decoy. Unless by "object" you meant the big, dark Jupiter thing. In that case; disregard

>>10384221
Blinsight gave me a good primer on Watts, so Echopraxia was easier, but I guess the "point" went over my head. Somewhere I missed the commentary on God that I was supposed to catch. I believe there was some insinuating that religion might be an even more refined version of the "bug" in intelligence that is conscious thought, but like I said, I missed it

>>10385249
There's a lot of "points" in these books. A big theme in Echopraxia is indeed religion and the mechanisms behind it, from the evolutionary rationale behind pareidolia to how anything with a nervous system must ultimately take everything on "faith".

Any books about some ambitious man that started from nothing achieving the creation of an empire or other such grand things?

>>10385355

>>10385369
Wow actually good covers for once.

Shame I got stuck with shit ones

>>10385369
nice covers, thumbnail looked like some kind of amerimutt series

Doesn't it scare you guys that Neuromancer, Snow Crash, and Deus Ex truly predicted our futures?

>>10385430
except without the chance of gaining power by experimenting with yourself and combining your body with bionic technology, becoming some cool cyborg or having your mind shattered by the internet through some mind-net connection, fusing yourself with the internet and becoming a new kind of digital transcendent being

just the bad depressing parts

>>10385290
Were the vampires able to cooperate, rise-up, hack baselines, and generally fuck shit up because they had developed the ability to cooperate without being conscious of it, like the creatures in Blindsight?

like, I caught that vampires were far enough ahead the curve that they'd abandon conscious cooperation before humans ever could, if they ever could and that the bicamerals were headed away from that end

I dunno, suppose it deserves a reread or three

>>10385442
I wouldn't be so sure.

As far as computer/mind interface we have palsy sufferers being cured with experimental chips in the skull. Which can be augmented with all sorts of shit in the future.

This could become a problem, say a crazy dude with enough money to truly agument his body as a super weapon goes on a mass killing spree? What if a rocket arm becomes as cheap as an AR rifle?

Pic related, truly bionic legs using nerve endings. They look like a fucking movie dude.

Encrypted and Unencrypted cyberspace.

Powerfull mega-corporations.

>>10385453
Rocket launchers are as cheap as Ar-15s

It's the Rockets themselves that are expensive.

>>10385494
Yeah, but rocket launchers aren't small enough to sneak on an airplane. What if the security arm-race lags far enough to where a guy could sneak some kinda payload in an amputated leg.

>>10385445
It's heavily implied that vampires have issues with each other because of an artificial safeguard put in place by the guys that worked on the resurrection project.
At the start of Echopraxia they escape the facility by each predicting how the other would act if they had actually planned an escape attempt.
As for their general ability it's touched on in the end notes of Blindsight, and throughout the books - seeing both sides of the nekker cube at once, omnisavantism, etc. There's also a flash presentation on Watts' website.

>>10383106
Visit from the goon squad already did it.

>>10383153
truck drivers, and people stuck with llong commutes. I once got through several volumes of the Casca books by Barry Sadler even though I dislike audio books, but it has proved to be impossible to find more than the first few books of the series as ebooks so the audiobooks were all I had.

>>10380185
I don’t understand why people thought GotM was boring. A girl being possessed by a god, a horrific and large scale mage battle with a flying fortress, a massacre by giant hounds, idk i thought all that was pretty interesting

>>10380347
In my opinion there was enough information for me to be intrigued. Really wasn’t all that difficult to understand what was going on, just some of the details were obscured

>>10380467
Fans say that because most fantasy readers don’t have the patience to read a book that doesn’t spoonfeed everything to you

>>10380551
This. I don’t get why people call GotM boring

>>10375661
Using a plot map/skeleton/flowchart let him keep track of plot points in a 15 book series, over the entire series the majority of it has flowed well and had few, if any gaping contradictions so far. If you aren't organizing your shit into some cohesive draft that you can edit and reference easily then you're retarded.

What to read first?

>>10385923
First book on the left or Hyperion.

>>10384868
What is amusing is that all those "InfoWars super mega caveman vitality" pills they take have soy in them.

>>10385991
>unironically taking infowars supplements
nobody does this, people just take them ironically, to take the piss

Just finished this series up. It was good. A fun swashbuckling trip through a early modern setting. Also the author accurately captured how annoying it is to have siblings.

>>10385923
politics and process at the UN

So there are 41 fucking Discworld novels. Are they stand alone enough that I can just read the good ones, and if so what are they?

>>10386718
>Also the author accurately captured how annoying it is to have siblings.
>implying

Is there anything along the lines of Shannara and Wheel of Time and ASOIAF, don't hate me please, I'm sorry for being a norman, only not utter shit? Already read and reread Tolkien too much to ever want to return to it.
I tried The Blade Itself, it was good, haven't tried the extended universe stuff yet.
Don't know where to go now, too much shit to sift through in this genre.

>>10386776
The resident answer is Book of the New Sun

>>10386782
Shit how did I know someone would say that. I've already started it and it's slow moving right now, and a bit denser than what I'm used to.
A couple more recommendations please if you don't mind? I usually have about 4 or 5 books going at the same time anyway.

>>10386776
Is Wheel of Time that good?
I keep seeing it get shilled for here and almost everywhere else.

>>10386808
Malazan
Baker
Earthsea

>>10386815
>only not utter shit
It's garbage, but if I was to say there is anything redeeming about it, it's comfy garbage, in the same way Game of Thrones/ASOIAF is. They both have a lot in common, I'm guessing that's why they're adapting WoT for TV now.

>>10386826
>Malazan
>Baker
I think you meant Bakker, but noted
>Earthsea
Is this good? I'm wary of reading anything written by a woman after I tried and dropped Pern. It felt too contrived and artificial.

>>10384868
Anon its from this.
A group of numale vegetarian and soy only journalists got their testosterone checked and they were lower than fucking 80 year old men.

>>10386844
>Is this good? I'm wary of reading anything written by a woman after I tried and dropped Pern. It felt too contrived and artificial.
Yes. One bad book written by a women shouldn't stop you from reading good books written by a women.

>>10386815
Its fine, its popular so its easy to hate in the thread. Also feminists throw a fit over it because RJ made all women in the series turbocunts who do nothing but fuck everything up.

Thats not to say it doesn't have its flaws, but its not nearly as the vocal shitposters would have you believe

Re-reading echo

What’s the meme about Valeria infecting Brüks with her own version of Portia? Moore mentions his returning cancer earlier and so her injecting him with antineoplastics seems fairly normal

Is it merely his accelerated post-humanist decent after injection (assuming no slight time jump before the final chapter- and could this acceleration merely be due to her death?)

Is her letting him kill her only because she’s passed on her altered form of Portia and thus can die happy?

Peter watts, Blindsight, etc

>>10386852
>turbocunts who do nothing but fuck everything up.
Haha, this. It's not a total write-off but I wouldn't rate it any higher than mediocre.

>>10386815
It definitely flawed but I don't think I've had as much pure fun reading a series. Sanderson did a pretty fine job closing the series too.

>>10385290
>>10385249
This is pulled right out of my arse but the main theme or at least the idea of Echopraxia in my opinion is Watts trying to redeem his beloved, deeply religious now dead father (even if Pete doesn't realise it himself). He desperately strains his referencing and hard scifi abilities to try and synthesise a realistic model of God and faith, and uses it to create a sequel to his most-loved book yet.
See his father's eulogy here: http://www.rifters.com/crawl/?p=3917
Like I said this is pure fiction at this point, and sorry if you're reading this Pete. I also think Blindsight is essentially a response to Watt's general hate/love relationship with humanity and it's institutions as a whole, as they tear away his precious ecosystems and climates. The man's a hippy biologist, with opinions you'd expect.

Also in defence of Echo, it's very different to Blindsight and Watt's did do a tremendous job letting it stand on a different podium, with wildly different themes and ideas. Also there's some nice thematic differences, Siri's posthumanism and Bruk's baseline-ness. Thesius heading out to the cold, The Crown going into the hot (thank you reddit AMA). Also, Blindsight seems to occupy itself fully with INSIDE, with perception, consciousness, the brain. Echopraxia focuses on the OUT, the universe, it's limits, its purpose.

Also when's the animation coming out?

>>10385445
>>10385445
>Were the vampires able to cooperate, rise-up, hack baselines, and generally fuck shit
Should have answered this in my last comment, but Valeria seems to hint in the final death throws of Echopraxia that human society, complete with ConSensus, Heaven, etc etc, seems to possess and emergent intelligence and may be greater than even the vamps

>Valerie and her kind were perfectly capable of shrugging off Human oppression without breaking their chains; they needed their arms free to pic on things their own kind.
>"You are not so small as you think," she said, reading him. "You might be bigger than all of us."
>Bruks shook his head. "We're not. If I've learned anything these-"
>Emergent complexity, he realised. That's what she means.

>Who knew what metaprocesses might emerge when Heaven and ConSensus wired enough brains together, dropped internode latency to zero?

>>10385923
Hyperion.
Always Hyperion.

>>10384897
Is there somewhere I can see all these russian covers?

>>10386937
Not sure about the father thing. For sure his own experience (Sunday school, etc.) has rubbed off on him, but the books aren't a personal thing. Religious behaviour, the mechanisms behind it, and their implications for the human condition are quite interesting.

The thematic differences between the two books are indeed a super cool thing.

I consider Echopraxia to be better because some of the consciousness stuff in Blindsight is nonsensical, i.e sentences that use unclearly defined terms and so are practically meaningless. I don't think that's down to Siri being crazy either, Watts just messed up, probably didn't have some stuff fully internalized, and it slipped by in the edit. It's a minor thing, and completely excusable considering how much the book gets right, and I haven't caught any such nonsense in Echopraxia at all.

Oh, and I read his blog too, it's pretty good.

>>10385423
Nice projection, mongrel.

>>10386755
They're all pretty stand alone.
There's different arcs which probably should be read together.
The best ones imo are the watch novels and the death novels.

>>10387655
small gods is the best one

>>10387655
>>10387712
Reaper man was the best one

>>10374589

Can anyone tell me if The Glorious Path is any good?

All the reviews seem to be super biased one way or the other - either by fashy types writing rave reviews or buttmad leftists getting triggered over it.

>tfw finishing a good book but then you have to wait for the next one and nothing else will feel the void and just as you find some series that scratches the same itch its also not done and you have to wait yet again for the next book.

>>10387988

Well, if you're a fashy type then you'll probably enjoy it. If you're a liberal, not so much.

>>10388033
>tfw finished a good book and got plenty more lined up

>>10388033
Here's a completed story.

>>10388118
a shit.

>>10387988
If leftshits hate it then chances are it's good.

>>10387988
it's a gift to get those alt-right bucks dude and thus isn't very good. Hell look at the post above mine to see this in action

If you're desperate for right wing fantasy goodkind is better and goodkind still fucking sucks

>>10388183
Thank you for proving my point here: >>10388160

>>10388186
Yeah I recommended an alternative RW fantasy because I'm so mad at a lame novel for not agreeing with my politics

>>10388183
IIRC John Ringo wrote some series a while back about how a futuristic apocalypse turns the world into fantasyland so dragons are actually republican furries who had used futuretech to turn themselves into dragons.

>>10388205
lol you clearly are mad.

>>10388206
Tell me more.

Anybody read Kay Kenyon's Bright of the Sky/Entire & Rose series? Sounds interesting and the blurb says "high-concept SF on the scale of Philip Jose Farmer’s Riverworld, Roger Zelazny’s Amber Chronicles, and Dan Simmons’s Hyperion."

>>10388219
Well, the cover isn't terrible. Why doncha give it a go?

>>10388219
>female writer
I'd skip this one, anon.

>tfw gonna corner the market on alt-right litrpg
>defends maiden from rape gang of peace
>+15 to nationalism
>spot refugess welcome shirt
>beheads harlot
>+15 to nationalism

>>10388266
You're better off pandering to the alt-left since that will at least net you a Hugo award.

>>10388266
>alt-right litrpg

>Everyone says Sanderson is anime
>His women are still all pig disgusting western
I should corner the market and write a fantasy series where the women are all moeblobs and tsun.

>>10388398
>we call it, the quantum turd

>>10388266
i suddenly have some morbid curiosity to see this happen
>as mc is on on his 200th killstreak of killing of hordes of merchans the the 201th jew explodes in a explosion of flesh and money. all the while a huge sign above the scene appears that states MENGELED in the mortal combat announcer voice.

>>10386937
>See his father's eulogy here: http://www.rifters.com/crawl/?p=3917
He acts so astonished that religious people can be decent.

quick question:

How bullshit is it to kill a werewolf by crop-dusting it with cocoa powder?

>>10388406
We're also in desperate need of SoL.

>>10388428
Why not napalm?
Or powdered wolfsbane?

>>10388500
do you have that shit in your kitchen? I sure as hell don't.

Given their canine physiology and physical invulnerability it seems like an ideal solution

>>10388508
I dunno. Do you keep multiple kegs of powdered cocoa in the pantry, sicko? What kinda ppm you gonna need to bother a werewolf, eh?

>>10388435
>>10388420
>>10388398
>>10388369
>"Richard spencer -kun , baka
>hmm, Vice-chan sure is *kawaii~ when she's mad
>*TN: Kawaii means cute

>>10388500
>>10388508
What is he fighting counr chocula or some shot?

>>10388266
only if nyanners reads the audiobook.
nyanners used ot have fun a long time ago. regularly doing vocaroos for /pol/ and not giving a fuck. until it became socially unacceptable and her friends threatened to remove her from the friendcircle which incendantly also had influence over her viewership.

>>10388582
Elle Reeve is the horrible truth about moe in 3D.

>>10388540
>>10388582

how much cocoa powder do you think you need? half a bag of betty crocker mix would suffice

>>10388639
Maybe if you dumped the bag directly on his head, but we're talking about spreading it from an aerial vehicle.

Is Malazan considered patrician around here? I tried it after >>10386826 and I'm amazed at the quality of the writing, or maybe I've just been reading lowbrow shit too long. Its not perfect but it's an order of magnitude better than what I've been used to recently.
Thanks for the rec, anon.

>>10388647
you know what anon? This was my mistake. I mixed up my urban dictionary definitions. I thought crop dusting was throwing cocaine in someone's face. Turns out it's farting in a room and then walking out

>>10388591
Sjws suck so fucking hard.

I will say this for Prince of Nothing; the antagonists truly do feel horrifically evil. Unfortunately the "protagonists" are little better and I'm beyond tired of super edgy fantasy like that.

>>10388746
I have no idea what you're talking about.

Anyone familiar with Corruption of Champions? Can you recommend a fantasy novel with that level of degeneracy? Or at least something that comes somewhat close? I just want something really perverted in a fantasy setting but most romance novels are vanilla as hell plus they never get gay.

>>10388508
Make the napalm. It's easy.

Donkey, cosmerefag, reviewanon. Can hou start a new tnread please? Fibhting sleep.

>>10388819
>calling on tripfags to save us

>>10388845
>>10388845
>>10388845

>>10381975
>why dont ppl understand that they have to follow the dragon
Not blindly, as he could and almost did go completely mad. Which is why there's a Borderlander prophecy literally bringing their combined armed forces to Far Madding to poke the Dragon with a sword in the middle of the second war against the Shadow.