/lit/ - Literature

>>10376026
N-No all my precious work!

>>10376047
>yfw people don't know that Locke was the first to come up with the phenomenal/noumenal distinction

HA
NOT SO FAST FAGGOT

>>10376047
But Locke was before Kant.

>>10376026
excuse me fucker

>>10376053
Plato came out with the phenomenal/noumenal distinction

>>10376177
>all philosophy so far was useless
>only a God can save us
>lets just do poetry for the rest of time

gr8 conclusions

>>10376201
Everything you said there is true and played out though

>>10376177
Whenever I see Heidegger posted I can't help but imagine how tight Hannah Arendt's pussy was

The funny thing is that even if you disagree with everything Kant said, he's still one of the most important philosophers ever. And easily one of the smartest

>>10376219

test

>>10376201
Better than
>don't do to other people what you wouldn't like them to do to you, there, philosophy solved guize xd

>>10376227
she really was a qt

>>10376219
Its not a question of how tight Arendts pussy was or how thick Heideggers dick was, its a question of the imminent tension between them

*calls you a faggot*

>>10376231
It played out very well. Secular countries are far more morally just than religious ones today.

>>10376236
kek BTFO

>>10376238
>morally just
aka gay

>>10376236
>justifies fascism
>contributes nothing to civilization

>>10376245
>civilization
Stop watching porn.

>>10376235
>Heidegger Unconceals his monster cock
>Hannah starts to Care for the shaft, swerving her tongue like the path of a snake up his hot, thick Dasein
>Heidegger slams her back into the sheets in Thrownness
>flips her onto her stomach for The Turn
>Grasps his pulsing cock Ready-to-Hand
>pulls apart her cheeks, sees the Clearing
too lazy to continue

>>10376235
So what you're saying is they fucked incredibly hard, fast, and like animals? Because that's hot

>>10376245
You haven't read Nietzsche, Mussolini, or Hitler

>>10376026

*makes all the humanities look like a fucking joke*

>>10376258
Is he right with his assertion that science made philosophy obsolete?

I believe that the hard problem of consciousness justifies the existence of humanities.

>>10376242
Religious countries like Pakistan and Afghanistan are some of the gayest countries out there.

>>10376266
>Is he right with his assertion that science made philosophy obsolete?

No, he's just a moron that doesn't grasp the fundamental problem of induction.

>>10376236
hehehe

>>10376278
Everyone has a grasp on it, but we don’t have a better method than science.

His entire argument in favor of keeping tradition and religion hinged on the presupposition that the because the self has an identity and percieves the world in a particular way, that there is no way to say anything for certain about the independent objective reality [and you silly scientists should just shut up :^))))]

If he had withheld his scorn for the attacks on religion, he would find that rationalist ideals would justify the reasons for religion's existence from a functional viewpoint.
Cruel irony would turn the tables on Kant's core beliefs a century and a half later, and his ideas would justify their destruction and abandonment.

>>10376225
Well yeah, the entire German Counter Enlightenment followed his idea of Reason and it would grow into some of the core tenets of Postmodern Epistemology.

>>10376266

Yes, because science is the major contributing factor to the downfall of mankind into a techno-dystopian hell controlled by sentient A.I who torture people in test tubes for thousands of years in the stylings of I have No Mouth and I Must Scream.

>>10376291
>Yes, because science is the major contributing factor to the downfall of mankind into a techno-dystopian hell controlled by sentient A.I who torture people in test tubes for thousands of years in the stylings of I have No Mouth and I Must Scream.

Is this why I don't have a girlfriend?

>>10376282
That doesn't render philosophy useless.

>>10376291
Yeah, just look how worse life got because of modern medicine and industrial production.

>>10376286
>he would find that rationalist ideals would justify the reasons for religion's existence from a functional viewpoint.

>>10376310
Yeah, just look how worse Icarus got after getting the wings

>>10376194
Awfully different from Kant though b/c Plato thought you could figure out what the noumena were

>>10376238
>Secular countries are far more morally just than religious ones today
That's a ridiculously crude statement.

>>10376286
he would find that rationalist ideals would justify the reasons for religion's existence from a functional viewpoint.

?

>>10376252
>commence pussy destruktion

>>10376310
>Hooray everyone, we have to live even longer in this alienated ratscape

Medicine is the cruelest science

>>10376336
You’re free to end it at any moment, pal. It’s not like life was more meaningful during the Black Death or any other period of time.

>>10376346
>living a comfy peasant life in the country until God mercifully calls you to heaven at 20 with your 13 year old wife

Sounds great to me

>>10376323
It isn’t. Whether you take corruption or crime rates, highly religious countries are the worst offenders.

>>10376351
You can live in the countryside trying self-sustainance today.

>>10376369
Yeah but I can't marry a 13 year old girl

>>10376373
Not with that attitude.

>>10376286
>that there is no way to say anything for certain about the independent objective reality
Didnt so much mean this as: Scientests do not 100% know what an electron looks like and who knows if it is possible to. All comprehension of 'electron' is capturing of information by relation and proxy of the electrons interactions with material and light

>>10376362
Your in a philosophy thread and completely failing at the dialectical method, shame. A religious person wouldn't think of abortion as morally just and secular countries legalize and practice it on a mass scale, they would also consider it more unjust than corruption or theft.

>>10376397
>dialectic bait
Fuck you rationalist fool

No, Kant was a useless tool who made joke philosophy.
>>10376225
Far from it. Man was a retard.
>>10376238
>morally just
>according to muh secular standards
So this is the power of atheist philosophy...
>>10376282
All methods are bad. That's a better method: nonmethod. Try reading Against Method.

>>10376441
>he doesn't understand that morality is an emergent quality of the unfolding absolute

>>10376320
>figure out what the noumena were
Nope — not so much that you could ever give an account. The most you could ever do as a human was "get a glimpse" of the Forms/Gods, but never understand/know them.

Of course, there's the whole business of anamnesis, but who knows what he meant by that.

>>10376441
shitposters like this are just ruining the board. They aren't even funny in a creative or banter sort of way, they just drag down the whole level of discussion

>>10376551
>waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah why arent you plaaaaaaaaaaaaaying by muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh ruleeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

>>10376551
A bloo bloo boo

>>10376026
What about me?

>>10376238
>today
I am so glad Whig history is alive and well; what of China Anon or Israel? Or maybe we will look at yesterday, the USSR comes to mind.
Atheist morals can not be natural, what makes secularism just?

>>10376026
tfw schopenhauer took his philosophy to height and took it to height kant wouldnt even be able to dream of because of his intellectual rigidity

>>10376245
don't make posts like these again

>>10376026
>tfw schopenhauer took his philosophy to heights his intellectual rigidity wouldnt have ever allowed it to reach

>>10376738
lows*

>>10376746
explain this post

>>10376694
Sartre's ontology is an abomination.

>>10376757
schopenhauer was retarded

fun fact: hegel didnt hate him back, he just felt really bad for him and went out of his way to convince his colleagues that schopenhauer wasnt really that bad

>>10376177
Heidegger doesn't even provide arguments.

>>10376026
*knock knock*

>>10376766
hegel was a cunt though

>>10376798
Why do you say that?

>>10376801
He though he was god on earth,he was also an authoritarian

>>10376818
So what, I think of myself the same way, whats your problem?

>>10376824
nice bait

>>10376828
Whatever you soycialist faggot

>>10376840
socialist,where does that come from?

>>10376824
if you're god, why are there still niggers around

>>10376843
I wanted any talk back from you I'd ask for it you fucking bitch

>>10376845
To keep you on your feet, git gud fagit

>>10376848
tell that to my fucking face motherfucker acting all tough n shit on an anonymous board fuck outta here nigga see me in ferentari when ill shank you on your way to the store your mom sent you to buy bread fuck you motherfucker

>>10376865
fucking soy-god, afraid of killing em

>>10376869
Just try it lad just try it lad we'll see ya so big man then little faggot fuck

>>10376888
im 6'2 and i armbar at least two men each time i go to bars

>>10376893
Literally give me an address and I'll see you there

>>10376238
>secular countries are more morally righteous according to my secular ethics
>measuring the standard with the standard
Makes you think.

>>10376906
see me around the metro station "eroii revolutiei" in bucharest

>>10376917
Fuckin you're on I'll be coming for you

>>10376193
This.
Anyone who is legitimately well read recognizes Hegel as the essential end all be all. Philosophers after him made interesting contributions, but after hegel it is literally impossible to go further.

>>10376926
yea,interesting contributions,like communism and fascism

>>10376917
>>10376920
wow, two /lit/ fights in two days
also pic as related as it ever will be

>>10376766
Do you have a source for that? I know what Schopenhauer though of Hegel but I've never seen anything about Hegel’s opinion on Schopenhauer

>>10376993
hold up I'm gonna look it up

It's from an interview with one of Hegel's biographers

>>10376938
that would be an honirable way to die for me,taking my argument with me beyond death

>>10377036
>defeated lying on the ground, coughing blood, you beckon the victor towards you
>"Not an argument"
>*die*

>>10377046
fucking bolynu

>>10377046

>>10377029
It was Pinkard, search warosu it was posted a couplw days ago

>>10377081
>>10376993
>>10377029
>>10376766
https://clyp.it/mbjukpye

>>10377029
>>10377081
He isn't wrong but take everything Pinkard says with a pinch of salt, he HEAVILY sugar coats Hegel.

>>10376026
>teleports behind you
>"heh nothing personell"

>>10376231
This is a really bad post and you know it.

this far in and not even a mention of wittgenstein? for shame

>>10378805
>ends philosophy
>then ends his own philosophy
very much causes one to contemplate

>>10376201
where's the lie

>>10377184
this is hilarious

>>10376026
The more I read Kant, the more I realize the rigor is just a cover for the complete destruction of cosmological order, which he so desperately wanted to preserve.

>>10378805
Because Witty is just the mirror image of Heidegger, all autism, no poetry.

>>10376818
>,he was also an authoritarian

American illiterates leave the board pls

>>10376026
Keep telling yourself this buster.

>>10376278
He's not a moron, you hyperbolic fool. How little does that word mean to you, that you can plaster it on this man?

>>10377046
lol

>>10376201
Sounds about right desu what's there to be wrong about?

>>10376026
*awake you from your dogmatic slumber*
nothin personnel, Immanuel

>>10376232
She's buried at my college desu I'm shitting meters away from her corpse as we speak.

>>10376245
Go embarrass yourself somewhere else.

>>10377046
E B I N

>>10376026
Try again

>>10376026
Too everyone take their dick out only for Marxs.

>>10376926
>end all be all
this bothers my autism

>>10383302

on this shoal and bank of time
we'd life the time to jump