/lit/ - Literature

Haven't read any SFF in a while, but I'm starting Book of the Long Sun today. God-tier cover art, if nothing else.

Can anyone recommend something ultra-political/dramatic? Where tea ceremonies and formal dinners are more nerve wracking and intense than battles, and etiquette and aesthetic determine life and death. Real hardcore court intrigue.

>>10291733
The Long Price Quartet by Daniel Abraham

Would y'all read a book that started with a reborn main character paying a whore to let him breastfeed from her?

Asking for a friend.

How is The Black Company, /sffg/?
I've read some reviews and it sounds like something I'd enjoy but most of the reviews are pretty vague.
I don't mind edgy as long as it has cool characters and/or an interesting setting. Does it have either?

>>10291770
Is the ass fat?

>tfw no kind old man to give me a drink of water and talk about religion with
why live lads?

>>10291733
Under Heaven

>>10291778
Sorta, the ass is firm. I'm ignoring the common rules of recent pregnancy like the darkened nipples for sexist story telling purposes.

>tfw writing on your phone gives you a shithouse idea of page formatting.

pastebin.com/DJBJ3Fr9

>>10291614
>/sffg/ Discord
Where did this reddit cunt come from? 4chan doesn't use discord.

>>10291957
>cuck who wasn't breastfed as a baby is back to tout his fetish again

>>10291775
I enjoyed it. It's the foundation for dark fantasy.
GRI APPROVED. If you don't like dark fantasy, and unironically use the word edgy, then stay away feom black company, Malazan, and night angel trilogy.

>>10291775
>>10292009
How edgy are we talking here, I just dropped black prism during that fucking lazer boat scene and need something else to pick up.

>>10292003
You might be thinking of someone else,this is just edgy shock fan service I'm using as a hook to start the story.

The breastfeeding has a purpose beyond fetish fuel however.

>yfw reality was worse than your expectations

>>10291793
If there was one fictional character/god I could have a chat with about religion, I'd want to have a chat and a photo with PKD's Palmer Eldritch. If I couldn't have a chat with Eldritch, I'd opt for a chat and a photo with Bridger - the super cute little kid from TLtL.

Odium seems to be the kind of character who is fundamentally deceitful - he was pretty nice with Dalinar but you can tell that he's up to the neck in scheming with Taravangian and Taravangian is a terrible person to be around given how often he keeps draining people's blood to get his shitty propherices. And I'd rather be on a happier planet having a chat then someone's magical slave on a planet where hell is literally and figuratively real and gets constantly stomped by the apocalypse, retard tier wars where everyone dies for no reason, a personalised hell where the top tier magic users get tortured and tortured again and locals who are enslaved and then start turning into demons- Roshar seems like a terrible place to live.

Szeth is also boring as a fuck, you can't get a straight talk with Hoid, so I'd rather have a conversation with Nightblood or Vasher.

>>10292011
*Szeth
I mean Sazed.
And Honour sounds boring as a fuck as well. And Cultivation sounds not that great.

>>10292014
Leras was a bro though. I'd go on adventures through shadesmar with him.

>>10292025
Leras is great.

>>10292010
>I just dropped black prism during that fucking lazer boat scene and need something else to pick up.
Don't bother with Malazan, night angel trilogy, nor black company then.
Try shades of grey or the library at mount char and see if you want to drop those too.

>>10292010
Black Company is super edgy. Like the other anon said, try Shades of Grey.

>>10292032
>>10292037
I'm actually okay with edgy, it's just the lazer boat scene was way too goofy for me.
Of all the ways to create propulsion with light and magic, then to use it trying to impress a middle aged woman, jesus.

>>10292010
>You might be thinking of someone else
Some aspiring author has been dropping hints about opening his never-gon-be-published-book with a breastfeeding scene, and that "it serves a purpose. You aren't that same anon?

>>10291775
It's somewhat archaic when it comes to fantasy.

>>10292052
Oh no, that was me.

The meme did not start with me however.

>>10291616
That is a beautiful cover.

I've only read New Sun. Is Long and Short also worth reading? What, without spoilers, do they deal with?

>>10292011
You'd think that odium would want to go by an emotion name like the other gods to blend in and sound less ominous. Then again he gives no fucks

>>10292051
>you can't be propelled with light that has mass
>people don't show off in front of people they like
>a guy who carried a flame for a girl for years can't still want her when a chance opened up
>36 is middle age
I see as the anon said, your mom withholding the breast and giving you formula has seriously damaged you cognitive development. You are autisticly retarded anon. Why do you even read fantasy is a boat made out of light breaks immersion for you?
Go to outer lit and read about raping lolis/shotas / religion hidden with allegory. Fantasy isn't for you.

If that boat scene made you drop black prism, then I already see you dropping shades of grey.

>>10292074
>Why do you even read fantasy is a boat made out of light breaks immersion for you?

I didn't say it broke immersion, it's just goofy as fuck.
I would have rather just had pure hand-wavium at that point, the green lantern makes shit from light all the time without it just looking stupid.

I'm sorry I triggered your old ass so hard, anon.

>>10292086
>I'm a dinosaur because I don't see your stupidity

>didn't pick up Hobb's books because the names are so pants shittingly generic
>pick up the first assassin's book
>novel is comfy as fuck
And I say this as someone who posts the brainlet image in response to dumb comfy posters. It's a little predictable, but Im really enjoying it.

>>10292219
>tfw it's the next book on my list
That's neat.

>>10292228
>>10292219
If I remember that series correctly, get ready to be totally done with the MC by the second book. There's only one interesting character/plotline and it doesn't get nearly enough time. The God Emperor leading the skeleton monster army

>>10292243
>Spoiler
You're thinking of something else entirely.

>>10292062
Long Sun is meh, Short Sun is excellent (some say better than BotNS, I disagree). Long Sun is about (minor spoiler but a lot of people apparently didn't figure it out back in the day) the inhabitants of a generation ship launched from Urth in the time of Typhon from BotNS. Short Sun is about what happens when they finally reach their destination.

>>10292265
So for the full experience you should read Long before Short Sun?

>>10291614
can /sffg/ recommend some well written fantasy?

I picked up GOTM as I've heard so much praise for the Malazan series and how nothing else compares in terms of grand scope, but I'm pretty disappointed so far. I'm getting the feeling it might end up being an incredibly large paddling pool, instead of actually having any depth.

I'm waiting for something interesting to crop up, but so far all I've encountered are plenty of cringeworthy names, and juvenile, generic fantasy wish fulfillment tropes, like the edgy assassin's guild, the weathered elite soldiers who've "seen shit, man" despite nothing horrific actually happening on paper so far, and the lord of darkness with long white hair and a two-handed sword on his back who is intelligent, nihilistic, and with a wicked sense of humour.

I basically feel like I'm reading novels for a pretty generic fantasy role-playing game. Of course I wouldn't mind that so much if the prose was good, but it's quite poor.

>>10292283
Try the Farseer trilogy. It's a lot more low key in its Fantasy elements that Malazan, and the scope is much smaller, taking place almost entirely in a very small rural kingdom.

>>10292283
Book of the New Sun, Lyonesse or Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell.

t. Malazan is shit

>>10292257
Potato potato. I swear there's fucking fifty of those books with almost the exact same titles and covers. A few of them even have the same plots!

>>10292209
You're a dinosaur because of how hard a thirty-six year old woman being called middle age hit you.
Also because you think accusations of stupidity are relevant when we're discussing the white lantern being crap at hard light crafting (read: the author just lacks creativity).

Russian version of Best Served Cold.

>>10292345
Amazing covers as always.

>>10292391
It's weird how much cheap high skilled digital artist labor is available in china and russia yet covers in modern fantasy are digital photo manipulation crap in the west.

SADEAS IS SCUM

>>10292406
I think it has mostly to do with Publishers. Look at localized Jap media like Spice and Wolf. They got these horrible westernized covers for the first few volumes. It took like 3 volumes for the complaints about them to finally convince the publisher to put their horrid shit on dustcovers and leave the original covers underneath.

>>10292265
>>10292282
Long sun is overpacked with Christianity parallels.

The Parshendi did nothing wrong

>>10292420
Sadeas did nothing wrong

>>10291733
Too Like the Lightning

>>10292421
>They got these horrible westernized covers for the first few volumes.

Just looked them up. What the fuck were they thinking?

>>10292283
It's obvious Malazan Isn't for you. You don't deserve to meme with us. If you call names juvenile, and an assassin guild edgy (the cia is an assasin's guild if you didn't know, those shit were used for centuries, but you being better than everyone else, we must take your refined tastes into consideration), it's plain you lack the fortitude and resolve to invest in an epic fantasy. Go read lotr or redwall.

>>10292406
>yet covers in modern fantasy are digital photo manipulation crap in the west.
They do it in the east too, only they try to imitate renaissance styled art, instead of hyper-realism.

>>10277460
Dear no-notr anon, I can't wait for you to reach book 9 when someone discusses cheating on her boyfriend to get some advantage.

>>10277460 →
Dear no-ntr anon, I can't wait for you to reach book 9 when someone discusses cheating on her boyfriend to get some advantage.

>>10292469
>M'Laseen

>>10292011
the Virgin Bridger
>doth steal the amenities of the Saneer-Weeksbooth Bash
>accompanies such dangerous lowlifes as Mycroft Canner
>lives only at the whim of the witch Thisbe
>hath destroyed himself to bring forth Achilles
>participates not in the grand game of gender

the Chad JEDD MASON
>His Name spelled in all caps, always
>JEDD MASON speaks eight languages fluently
>master of Enlightenment philosophy from the age of seven
>has attracted various plentiful worshipers who see Him as divine
>He thought to see the Unbound Man, and saw him not

>>10292406
>tfw no self-illustrating author

>>10292073
It is an emotional word, anon.

>>10291770
I would desu

>>10292519
I did not read the spoilers, but youre probably talking about egwene, she's a bitch and deserve to die.
rand should fucking kill her

>>10292743
I wish i had you people's strength of will to avoid spoilers.
I'm still on book 6 and i got spoiled on pretty much fucking everything.

Don't make the same mistakes i made anon.

>>10292758
it's hard anon, very hard.
but this series is one in a million and i dont want to spoil(badumtss) my experience.
Also i read the book 4 hours or more per day so i pretty much dont have time to be spoiled

>>10292534
>implying I'm fat
>or Americlap

>>10292855
>fat
>american
Redundant

Why haven't hollywood shat all over this yet?

Can someone explain why the fuck does egwene forgets rand so quickly when she sees galad?
i hope she'd have been sent to where the descendents of hawk live so that she would be damane forever
bitch

What's least accessible fantasy novel out there?

>>10293175
because she's awful
Min is best girl

>>10293211
oh boy
OH BOY
i agree completely

>>10293175
Galad is literally the most beautiful person in the world and while Egwene adapt fast and become more worldly Rand in many ways remain a peasant, in total contrast to Galad. There's also the constant pressure on Rand from The Dark One and his minions making him behave like a fucking nut job. Anyway, Gawyn is best Trakand.

>>10293231
Gawyn is one of the absolute worst people in all of fiction. The one thing he is perfect at is making sure that harpy Egwene doesn't ruin the life of someone worthwhile with her attention.

>>10292283
>Giving up halfway through gardens

Its like giving up in the first five pages of other books. Finish book two before you call it to give it a fair shake. Book one is waaaaaaay different than the rest of them. Started as a movie script, then a DND game framework, then a book.

Also shit hits the fan about 3/4 through gardens

>>10293249
>Its like giving up in the first five pages of other books
>implying this is not fully acceptable if the book is shit

>>10293251
Skip it and read book two then

Your puddle analogy almost works, but...

He traces a puddle the size of an ocean in book one, then you dive in in the rest of the series. It's truly one of, if not the (imo), best fantasy series published.

>>10293241
>Gawyn is one of the absolute worst people in all of fiction
Literally why? His flaws and doubts make him a quite relatable character and, by the series standards, well written character but he overcome his problems in realistic and satisfying ways ending in his bittersweet defeat against Demandred.

>>10293264
I'm not the same anon, I have not read any Malazan so I won't criticize it but I really dislike the idea that you should read at least a couple of books before you dismiss an epic fantasy series.

>>10293273
Normally I'd agree with you, but Malazan is kind of the exception, because of how weird gardens is. Personally loved it, but it really is that much different. May as well have been a different author.

>Satisfying and realistic
>Train of people suiciding trying to kill demandred

I guess it makes sense for gawyn, but goddamn was it irritating to see it happen three times.

Speaking of, why is Esslemont so trash compared to Erikson?

>>10293282
It's a little cheesy but so is the whole series. But it would honestly have been enough with Gawyn and Lan, the Light simply had to many skilled swordsmen for Sanderson to handle, with each of them demanding a "cool" ending. The whole battle, at least at the Field of Merrilor was quite a shitfest that could and should have been better written. Egwenes ending was such a disappointment.

>>10293231
fuck you
i hate jordan for making us think egwene would be rand bitch and then just cuck us

>>10292009
>GRI APPROVED

>>10293372
No fuck you.

>>10293064
Three reasons come to mind:
1. Too many settings. Sets and CGI costs money, especially if the elements aren't reused.
2. Common plot. Revenge is a classic hook but combined with the uncertainties of an obscure author and the high costs of a proper scifi flick, that's a boat anchor looking for a neck.
3. Why not just do another capeshit movie? These normies just lap that pap up.

Should I read the Wheel of Time series in preparation for the show or should I read Mortal Engines before Peter Jackson's movie comes out?

>>10293231
i wish jordan made a what if where rand fuckin bolts galad out of existence
also
>hey this redhead i love since i was a child is amazing i love him and will marry him
>wew who is this dude, HE IS HOT AFF I HAVE TO FUCKING KEK THE GUY I SUPOSETELY LOVED HEHE I AM A FUCKING WHORE
her song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUMaiYQw_kg&list=PLFD79BF2D4A257CB0&index=3

>>10293414
>the show
no
it will be shit as always

>>10293414
If you like never ending epic fantasy series, sure. It's certainly not without problems (author swap, being to vast for its own best and spanking being one of Jordans major influences to mention a few) but among the epics I've read it's probably the best one.

>>10293373
GAY
RAPE
INCEST

>>10293420
>tfw Jordan will never write a 400 000 page book about how Berelain corrupt Galad in her sex dungeons

>>10293175
Galad's beauty is like a superpower anon.
Not even Nynaeve can ignore it, or even best girl Min. The only straight woman immune to it is Elayne.
He's like a male Lanfear, if not more.

>>10293583
the others find him handsome as fuck
but they dont go
>i shoudlnt do it but it feels so warm
Seriously, she is worst girl.

>>10293231
Half-mad Rand is best Rand though

>sci-fi books that pretend blacks or mestizo's are equally intelligent to whites

so disgusting

>>10293664

There's a reason why its science FICTION, anon. It's nothing more than a FANTASY.

/v/ here, how does this make you all feel?

>>10293720
>Black Mermaid-Squid loli thing
What

>>10293720
I don't understand.

>>10293758
splatoon has the deepest lore

>>10293720
it make me feel warm and fuzzy.

>>10293784
>>10293758

>>10291775
Its portrayal of romantic relationships is extremely anime. The Lady is a moeblob straight out of K-ON.

>>10293414
Wheel of Time is a trilogy with some good elements and some elements that make you want to claw your eyes out (almost every single woman in the books is the most obnoxious and despicable characters in all of fiction) stretched out to 12 books. I just merely the middle 6 or so, skipped entire chapters that focussed on insufferable cunts, didn't miss anything and was still annoyed by how much pointless padding and bullshit there was. It's not even world building, it's just inane bitching and walking in circles for 4000 pages.

Read Kingkiller instead. It's unfinished (and will remain so, but it's still very good.

>>10293664
Presumably they have genetic engineering in the future, so looks are really just aesthetics and everyone has the same engine under the hood.

>>10292219
Comfiness to 0 in the second book

>>10293893
How is a series of 14 books a trilogy?

>>10293954
It has three books worth of plot.

>>10293954
each book is divided into 4 parts
with a foreword and an epiloque

>>10292282
>So for the full experience you should read Long before Short Sun?

Yes. And it's excellent. That cover is a spoiler, though. Took me a few chapters to figure out they were in a ship. I thought that was really cool the way Wolfe never specifies that at first. He assumes his readers are intelligent.

>>10292283

Malazan is an obvious ripoff of Black Company. It has no plot and as far as "too many characters" it makes Ice and Fire look restrained. There are a number of sub-plots, but many of them go unresolved.

It's like a soap opera series. It ends when it ends.

>>10294002
Not who you're responding to, but holy shit. Thanks for sparing me from reading 10 000 pages. Malazan seemed interesting, but that's exactly the type of stuff I hate.

>>10292541
JEDD scares me.

>>10293720
I want to fuck that dark loli squid thing.

Also sci-fi > fantasy.

>>10293893
>Read Kingkiller instead
WEW

>>10293954
>Wheel of Time is a trilogy . . . stretched out to 12 books.
Anon put a bit too much aside between the subject and the key verb.

>come in general
>angry splerg from 2 threads back complaining about Sanderson is trying to force Wheel of shit discussion
>what he doesn't realize is that people here hate it
>he doesn't read and is trying to use the only fantasy book he read
>wheel of timeless filler

>>10294034
Check sadpanda or rule34apheal for splatoon

>>10294042
I don't understand why that series is so hated. It's better than 90% of the trash people celebrate. Sure, it's cring-y sometimes, but it's written decently and interesting.

>>10294111
>I don't understand why that series is so hated
Did you read book 2?

>>10294066
>>10294034

that one with Callie and Marie is hot af

>>10291614
why is he smoking the filter

>>10293064
For some reason I kept picturing the Star King as a Jamaican guy.

>yfw people ITT RIGHT now have read all fifteen Wheels of Time multiple times over

>>10294202
How many is too many? I'm at 6

>>10294139
Veigar don't give a shit

>>10294202
the series is good
jealous?
your shitty books will never be half as good
if they ever get published it is

>>10294231
Redshit please stop false flagging.
Everyone knows wot is shit. Even the people that like it admits it's shit. Go fuck yourself.

>>10293868
I usually don't mind a little bit of anime in my books desu
Did you find it too jarring?

>>10291614
I’m about 1/5 through the Way of Kings.

Is Shallan going to be this obnoxious and autistic throughout the entire book? Cause I think I’m going to start skipping her sections. Her attempts to be “clever” are just insufferable

>>10294329
Yes, Shallan is fucking insufferable for like 80% of the book, it's only after she gets her shit wrecked that she becomes a somewhat more likeable character. Still the worst protagonist though.

>>10294341
Why does she get her shit wrecked and how badly does she get beat? I am looking forward to it already.

>>10294329
Shallan is convinced she's like, Nancy Drew. It grates, yeah, but there's a reason she acts like that. You'll find out eventually.

>>10294357
>tries to sass off to crazy murderers
>crazy murderers "we are going to murder you now"
>Shallan "oh no"

That's more or less what happens

Should I read The Initiate Brother Duology by Sean Russell? Shit sounds cool.

>>10294247
oh no
the "amazing aspirant writer who will shake the fantasy books world" is mad
oh my
kyll yorself

>>10293414
Mortal engines is great but I would probably describe it as YA. Give it a shot and see if you like it.

>begin to read dragon reborn
>100 pages in
Why the fuck is the title dragon reborn if all that happens is relationed to egwene and mat?

>>10294412
Finish the prologue before you start complaining

>it's a /sffg/ reveals just how shit their taste is by talking about Brandon Sanderson for ten consecutive threads

>>10294424
>100 pages in
>prologue
dude wat
>>10294427
>stop liking what i dont like REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>10294432
It's a joke because the prologue in Knife of Dreams is actually like 120 pages long. But even if Egwene is shit Mat is the best protagonist of the three so who cares?

So chances of Skar and Drehy getting some small novella detailing their escape and explaining whether they're Windrunners by the time Kaladin meets them? Because goddamn Sanderson rushed the fuck out of that meeting and didn't explain shit

>>10294446
>mat
>best
I seriously prefer rand.

>>10294432
>dumb Redditor upset that his shit taste is being called into question

>>10294449
I dunno but SkarxLyn otp

>>10294329
Gets a lot better near the end, and especially in WoR. Third book she has issues tho.

>>10294427
Sanderson is definetly a weirdo but he’s honestly not the worst. he’s about a small step above average.

>>10294402
Pedo anime lover. I'm not an aspiring author your underage loving cuck. I'm a consumer of free media of books, not a maker of them.

>>10294329
Wait until you hit the "muh academic studies" section.

>>10294119
Yes. What's so terrible about it?

What do you look for most in your SciFi?
Tech? Philosophy?
Ayy Lmao's? Eldritch horrors?
Gratuitous sex scenes? Over controlling megacorps?
FTL shenanigans? Neat visions of the future?

>>10294274
It's odd because the setting is pretty gritty, but this girl is a blushing virgin who has a strong front but is vulnerable and lonely and cries at your shoulder and looks at you hopefully wanting a hug but feeling too shy to ask for it.

I mean come on.

>>10294492
>Third book she has issues tho.
schizophrenia issues. You think at the end all her personas will merge into ultimate shallan? Or maybe she would make illusions for each one of her personas and make them "real"?

>>10294531
cute robot girls

>>10294534
I think she becomes Odium's champion in a twist. The champion has nine shadows,
so maybe nine personas

>>10294329
Shallan is an exercise in patience. She's insufferable on purpose (for now), and she gets better. Doesn't mean her chapters aren't a fucking chore for the time being though.

>>10294531
waifus.

>>10294528
>hey Kvothe, time to lose your virginity to the magic elf queen who murders people
>oh wow, looks like you fucked her so good that she fell in love with you even though she's like a thousand years old and has fucked a million dudes and you're a 16 year old virgin
>don't worry though, it was in another dimension so it doesn't count as cheating on your ex-prostitute waifu
>time to go become the greatest swordsman in the history of the world in 6 months

>>10294528
Not gonna take your bait to discuss it ((anon)). I don't care if you see my side of things or not.

Why is WoT allegedly good?
Working through Book 1 right now, so far seems like a standard struggle between Absolute Evil and Pure Good, with a little Chosen One mixed in. That's not very inspiring.

>>10294544
>there are people who actually believe that Kvothe isn't 100% bullshitting Chronicler about basically everything that isn't independently verifiable.

Sucks to be a surface level reader.

>>10294557
not sure. I wasnt really a fan of wot myself.

>>10294541
Are you sure she’s annoying on purpose? She pretty much wins every “argument” she gets into and every man she talks with is some bumbling autist. Feels like she’s suppose to be very intelligent compared to most other characters.

Also, Jasnah is just as bad. “One plus one equals two, therefore god doesn’t exist”.

>>10294557
Things get a bit more complicated later on, but it's still Mostly Good But Had To Do A Few Morally Dubious Things and Evil But Philosophical About It.

I dunno, man, sometimes you just wanna read a book about how good guy beats bad guy.

>>10294568
Shallan gets called on how bad her humor is a lot in ob

>>10294568
Definitely on purpose, she's being humored because she's a lighteyes firecrotch.

>>10294568
It really is on purpose, she gets called out on it later on and realizes she's going too far and being a bitch and tones it down a lot. Jasnah herself becomes way more likeable after she thinks Shallan tried to commit suicide and she's actually really upset, and sections from Jasnah's perspective start showing that she has a lot more faults than she lets on.

>>10294561
>muh unreliable narrator
fuck off

>>10294537
plausible. She hates kaladin for brother killing. Hates pattern for parents killing.
She could be our anikin going to emperor odium's darkside.

>>10294557
Not really.
Yes, it is ultimately about the battle against the supreme evil, but there is no pure good even if some characters can be very idealistic.
The good guys squabble more than the bad guys.
Even the main characters who are childhood friends don't fucking trust each other most of the god damn time.

>>10294596
>she hates kaladin for brother killing.

Not really, she was still very much attracted to him and wanted to fuck him even after she found out he killed her brother. Didn't even bring it up.

>>10294604
didn't she acknowledge it was self defense and she couldn't reasonably hold that against Kal?

>>10294568
Shallan acts like that because her brothers had shit taste and she wanted to make them smile because her dad beat the shit out of them regularly. Jasnah is under a lot of stress trying to save the world alone, especially when Vorinism won't let her use one of her hands and pretends the apolcalypse she's trying to stop doesn't exist.

>>10294561
>haha, duuude Kvothe is just UNRELIABLE that means the story is good because the entire story is a lie hahahaha

>>10294449
I'd like to know what happened to Azure on the ship.

>>10294531
Future worlds. Interesting concepts. Taking the solar system and then the stars. Interesting ayyliens not too similar to us. Books by Alastair Reynolds.

>>10294604
It would probably be a factor when she snaps.

>>10294610
I wonder if the reason for the hand fetish will be revealed in later books. Dalinar's belt tying history just shows how something simple can be corrupted over decades of use.
Maybe the hand was covered so they can wipe their ass. It's gonna be something completely stupid. Believe it

>>10294617
I'm just wondering if azure is supposed to be vivenna or not. And if her "shardblade" is an awakened sword like nightblood. Minus the crazy.

>>10294636
Belt tying?

>>10294604
>>10294607
Reread the chapter when they talk on the boat. She's flipping constantly between Shallan and Veil, and literally performs her magic "shove it in the back of my mind" trick. Probably suppressed the thing with her brother, or who knows what else. She does acknowledge that there's not much reason to hate on Kaladin for it though, and at this point she only knows that her bro was doing some weird Skybreaker shit. At the end of the book it's also completely apparent that Amaram wasn't a chill guy.

>>10294531
All of the above.

>>10294533
kek
I wonder if that will make it to the TV series.

>>10294636
I'm pretty sure it was brought up in the first book that the stupid hand thing came from vorinism teaching that anything a women can do should be able to be done with just one hand or something. Their entire culture is about proving how much better they are then you.

>>10294669
>Belt tying?

When Dalinar talks about tradition and how all of his masters made him tie his belt in a certain way just because that was how their master taught them to do it and when he finally tracked down his master's master's master the guy explained that he tied it that way because he was so short he'd trip over his belt if he didn't.

>>10294669
top right

>>10294680
Oh yeah...

>>10294668
yes

>>10294636
>The idea of the safehand has to do with one-handed arts being feminine but two handed are masculine, and it all started after the Knights Radiant cast down their Shardblades. There was a huge power grab for these weapons and people quickly realized that the differences between men and women didn’t matter when they had power armor, so the idea of one-handed arts being feminine and the safehand arose from that over many years of cultural evolution.

t. Brandon

>>10294682
Got any of the high quality maps from oathbringer? Where could we find them ourselves?

>>10294682
what is top right supposed to be?

>>10294721
Everyone of his books that I’ve read go over this “gender prejudices are dum okay” shit. If he didn’t bring it up, no one would care.

When did /pol/ take over /lit/?

They already took over /g/, why aren't the mods doing shit to control this metastasis?

Best cover of best fantasy series
also
what's the name of this style of music?
it makes my s2 go doki doki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31afeiVj6aM

Just bought this. Already like it. I hope it lives up to the claims in its entirety because all the reviews compared it to The Grace of Kings and The Golem and The Jinni.

When your two favorites are the first that come to mind in spite of their [relative] obscurity you know you've got to buy it.

>>10294766
There was no takeover.

>>10294795
I was going to call you full of shit and (You) every single racial slur in this thread but I made it a quarter of the way thought the thread without seeing one.

I may have been extrapolating off of the one I did see. But frankly even one is too much

>>10294809
>racial slur
go back to /pol/

>>10294531
>Gratuitous sex scenes
not enough human on ayylium fiction.
id love some harem shit where some guy collects a harem of intergalactic waifus.

>>10294809
I’m straight from pol and I’m a hardcore white nationalist fascist. There really isn’t a takeover yet, this place is invested with degenerates still.

>>10294726
Veil drew a stick figure and wrote "Drawing is easy!", Shallan answered.

What's your personal #1 must-read fantasy series? I have about 30 hours of plane flights to sit through in the next week and I'd love to try something new, I haven't read fantasy in years.
I know I read Le Guin and Eddings a lot as a kid but honestly don't remember a single book. I do remember Wheel of Time and the Shannara books, which got worse as time went on, and I must have totally missed all the homo stuff in ASoIaF when I read it as a teenager. The last one I tried was Sanderson's, at the recommendation of a friend, but I found Kalladin's insufferable lie there and take it mindset to be insufferable and couldn't trudge through it.

>>10294809
Don't you know that /sffg/ is stronger than /lit/?

>>10294791
>The Grace of Kings and The Golem and The Jinni.
Is this bait?

>>10294897
All memes aside, Book of the New Sun.

>>10294809
>racial slur
just say nigger if you want to say nigger.

>>10294916
>/pol/ please go!!! s-stop invading our board!!!!!

>>10294920
>only /pol/ dislikes niggers

>>10294766
You just fucking had to start this shit didn't you?

>>10294903
Thanks, gonna give it a try!

>>10294766
Hit the fucking report button.

>the painting of the Champion that Kaladin sees is from Nalthis
fucking NEAT

>/pol/shits take over
>all that gets discussed is Sandershit
How predictable.

Is autistic trivia the fuel that makes people read Sanderson's horseshit?

>>10294976
You're discussing it too, fuckwad. Just by whining.
If you don't like it, be more interesting than Stormlight Archive.

Is Sanderson as magical realmy as RJ?

>>10294993
He's a Mormon, dude. His books are so clean you could read them to your grandma and not be embarrassed.

>>10295022
>no mating
>Your mother wanted you to be a soldier so badly she invited half the army to be with her while she was pregnant with you
>Kaladin tried, and failed, to picture the image of Syl shouting encouragement as he lay with a woman

Oathbringer got pretty lewd.

>>10294557
Book 1 is weirdly disconnected from the rest of the series. It has a ton of foreshadowing that comes into play later, but the actual events that makeup the plot of book 1 are basically irrelevant to the rest of the series. I mean, the same basic stuff you pointed out is true throughout the whole series, but the end of book 1 is basically this huge reveal that completely changes the narrative of the entire series and every book after that is basically dealing with that revelation.

>>10294897
If you already have WoK you should finish it. Sanderson's plots tend to pick up only in the last act, and that book is particularly guilty of that.

>>10294993
Robert Jordan was hardly magical realm. He likes girls with braids, tsundere, and lesbians.
That's gotta be the tamest shit in fantasy.

>>10294601
>The good guys squabble more than the bad guys.
I'd say they squabble evenly. The Foresaken literally plot murder against one another and regularly follow through with it, after all.

>>10295043
liked*
RIP

>>10295043
Did you just mentally block out all the spanking?

>>10294902
I'm sorry you don't share my patrician tastes, but please, don't let me stop you from enjoying your Sanderson and Stephanie Meyer

>>10295043
>all those spankings
>literally everything involved with Graendal and her bisexual harem

>>10295049
I guess I didn't see the fat, old mistress of novices punishing the aes sedai schoolgirls as erotic. Shame on me.

>>10295064
What about Matt spanking Aes Sedai? Or Aeil Wise Ones? There were so many spankings, man.

>>10295043
>lesbians

Where were the lesbians?

>>10294791
Let us know if it's good.

>>10295044
Well by "good guys" here i include everyone who honestly thinks they're doing what's best from whitecloaks to the red ajah.

>>10295069
Honestly don't remember Mat involved in any spankings. Although there was some BDSM with the queen of Ebou Dar, that was mostly described as him running away (and then a bad end with a grey man).
Again the wise ones were shriveled old ladies, it didn't seem sexy to me. But damn, I guess you're right. Nynaeve did beat the hell out of Moghedien's ass to tame her too. Jordan really was a horndog.

>>10295071
"Pillow-friends". Elaida was a raging dyke, Moiraine and Siuan definitely had something going in the prequel novel, etc.

>>10295087
>pillow-friends were lesbians

what

>>10295071
>>10295100
Also there was that Red witch who ended up turning into a Shaido Wise One's sex/torture slave via oath rod, forgot about that. Pretty brutal.

When is Sanderson going to go full anime?
Kaladin can rub wind together and make lightening or fire storms.
The possibilities of wind is endless.

>>10295210
Does Kaladin stop being a cuck in the second book? Honestly did not enjoy his chapters at all in the first one

>>10295054
>The shill of kings
>The golem and the meme

>>10294937
Just sage, hide and report when they start up. Mod takes care of them real quick.

>It was not until Marie had returned and packed up all of Isabelle’s paints that Isabelle’s mind spun down from the vertiginous heights of nonharmonic, countercyclical perturbations to the ordinary world of rude flesh and social morass.
I like this author t឴bq឴h fampais

Is it wrong if I feel like I'm pulling shit out my ass while reading Book of the New Sun? Especially when it comes to meanings and need some of this explained to me? I think my issue is that I'm not particularly fond of interpreting the work myself, for fear of taking it the wrong way or just looking for evidence where there is none, but I also feel like a brainlet some of the time.

>>10295269
Who cares about the meanings? Just enjoy the work for what it is and leave the ass pulling to the ivy league future burger flippers.

>>10295269
Hard to say without knowing any of your interpretations.

>>10295285
It actually kind of took me a little while to start seeing more comparisons between Christ and Severian, I'd say it really hit me during Sword of the Lictor, where I am now.

But I have trouble realizing/visualizing something like the end of Claw of the Conciliator and the witch, or what Jonas was talking about when he left through the portal.

Though it may be it's because some of this is meant to be revealed later on. That said, I did get the Trinity reference quite quickly, but didn't quite realize the symbolism of Terminus Est without help.

How is LotR considered a good book? It's literally just descriptions of scenery and people walking. No one gains mastery of cosmic powers or becomed a real badass. Even the strongest heroes like aragorn or eomer are just kind of present at the few actual action scenes. They don't cleave their enemies or do cool shit. And how exactly is Gandalf a wizard? He never once casts a spell. No enchantments or teleportations or even a fucking fireball

>>10295100
"Pillow friends are not just good friends. Oh, they are that, too, but they also get hot and sweaty together and muss up the sheets something fierce." -Robert Jordan

>>10295328
LoTR was a deconstruction of the fantasy genre before there even was a fantasy genre to deconstruct.

>>10295332
>muss up the sheets
This is the least erotic phrase

>>10295108

I kind of skimmed Faile's chapters toward the end because they were so terrible, but weren't a bunch of the women kidnapped by Shaido being raped? I vaguely remember she was considering banging some dude for protection.

>>10295299
Jesus. I didn't catch half of that during my read-through. Just figuring out the plot was hard enough for me.

Incredible book though.

>>10295332
>Galina, when she was training young acolytes, mentioned that she would beat them badly
>many of them became her 'pillow friends' hoping to end the beatings and have an easier time in training
>when she tried to resume the relationship with them afterwards, she was confused that they rejected her.

Holy shit she was a fucking lesbian rapist the whole time

Do people fuck parshmen?
They have vaginas right?

I hate to be that guy and I know it's a meme, but IS there a book/series that is somewhat similar to Berserk?
Not necessarily about someone wielding a giant sword, just something in a medieval setting, bleak and with demons or monsters as a constant danger to people everywhere.

Pls no bully

>>10295353
First Law is basically Berserk 1:1 even though I wasn't too fond of Abercrombie.

>>10295349
Yeah, she deserved what she got big time.

>>10295345
Well, figuring out the basics of the plot aren't hard for me, it's more the finer points. However, the Trinity comparison was obvious from the first time I read it and I went in knowing about Terminus Est, so I may have had an unfair advantage.

>>10295334
This was a much better shit post than I deserved

>>10295353

>>10295357
Thanks m8, I'll look into it.
Never read Abercrombie before, is there a particular reason you are not fond of his work?

>>10295370
Awesome. If this is your first read, I'd reccomend not looking too hard at the symbolism, as there are references hidden in the references. And no, nothing is explained at the end. Wolfe scholars are still puzzling over the ending to Claw, so you're good.

>>10295401
Who is that elf qt with the cute eyebrows?

>>10295403
Grimdark isn't usually my genre.

>>10294018
uh, you're right that it's a dumb part of the book, but Kvothe and Denna aren't together. he can fuck whoever he wants.

>>10294916
sheeeeeeeit

>>10295437
meant for >>10294544

>Brandon: You guys are voting for Knights Radiant. It seems too on the nose for me, is the thing. Like naming Pat’s (Rothfuss) new book “Kvothe has sex” or something like that, you know? Yes, it’s what the book’s about, but it’s very on the nose – it’s exactly what the book’s about. Does that make sense? That’s why it bothers me, but that’s why all the marketing people are like “Yeah, that’s what it’s about! Let’s make it!”

What did he mean by this?

>>10295351
yeah actually. That's where the Unkalaki red hair and Herdazian stone fingernails came from, way back when.

>>10292265
Long Sun is almost as good as New Sun. And in some ways better. Just read any given sentence out loud. Just brilliant.

How do you pronounce "Kvothe"?

>realizing Roshar now has artificial Feruchemy
shieeeeeeet

What's a good fantasy series with different races that are significantly different from humans?

>>10291614
What are some books about magic
but no Sword and Magic. Less Sword more magic
like Harry Potter but not shit. by that I just mean magic no added guns/swords
>no urban NY fantasy crap either

How would you use stormlight to fuel allomancy? It seems like it would be hard to do properly but potentially really overpowered

>>10295573
>My name is Kvothe, pronounced nearly the same
as “Quothe.”
It's not that hard, anon.

>>10295620
not really actually. Surgebinding is powered by raw Honor in the Highstorms. In Allomancy, different metals are keyed to different functions of Preservation's power. Metals basically hook your soul up to Preservation while being burned (This is what a Seeker senses). You have to Snap (Allomantically, this means choosing to Preserve yourself; Spren bond to cracks in the soul) to be allowed to draw power from whichever Shard. The power sources (Dor, Mists, Preservation's power, Highstorms, Breath) are relatively similar Investiture; it's the expressions that vary.

>It's a Dalinar flashback chapter

This is may be even worse than Shallan chapters in the earlier books.

>>10295658
That one chapter where he just wants to eat his steak dinner is great though

>>10295660
Yeah that one was good but the rest, holy shit.

>>10295665
I thought him burning his wife alive was also pretty good. The rest, eh.

this was really good. wtf, i love economics and female protagonists now?

>The Alchemy of Masques and Mirrors
I was about to say how well adjusted the antagonist was before he turned into a completely psychotic example of a rare male yandere who wanted to breed with the image of his waifu to create a super magic being out of the love for his waifu and was going to lobotomise and possess the guy if he decided not to breed her out of love for his waifu who he mutilated himself over the centuries for in order to fulfill his promise to her.
BRAVO CRADDOCK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16x-Wq78f-M

>>10294111
It's a juvenile masturbatory fantasy and the main character is a cringe worthy self insert.

>>10295043
So who WOULD be a magical realm author in your opinion?
I'm asking just for reference of course.

>that feelio dealio when you get to wait another 3-4 years for a new Stormlight book
>you probably won't get your Warbreaker and Elantris sequels in the meantime either
Can't wait to trigger nerds on the forums tomorrow :-)

>>10295353
the dark lord by ed greenwood is basically as dark as berserk.
the basic premise is MC is an author of fantasy novels.
suddenly a character from his book comes and gets him to go to their world and save it. but contrary to his book everything is really really fucked up. slavery, torture, rape, you name it.

>>10295793
What is he going to be writing in between then?

>>10295811
His new YA trilogy that nobody asked for. Plus Era 2 Mistborn finale but that won't even be till like fall next year.

>>10291614
I just finished Bloodborne and I am craving more. What books would satisfy this? Gothic fantasy mixed with a little bit of "weird" fiction.

>>10295830
Frankenstein; or, The Modern Prometheus

>>10295580
Whut. I'm retarded, spell it out for me

>>10294971
>treeline up against the wall
>not cutting that shit down
What type of hippie ass city is that?

>>10295872
I think their major exports are colour pigments, so those are probably flower fields. It's the most hippie city in all of fiction.

>>10295803
Sounds interesting. Thanks for the suggestion bruv

>>10295891
gotta add it starts off slow and tame. towards the middle to end though its basically this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5Fliy0kEQ8

>>10295816
>More YA
>More autismborn

Fucks sake cunt, everyone wants more stormlight archive just give us that.

>>10295022
>Hey Grandma, want to hear about the time dalinar killed his wife, then burned a city of tens of thousands to death, men, women, and children? And then afterwards goes to drink himself to death to get the sound of screaming children burning to death out of his head?

>>10294617
Check out Altered Carbon. Broken Angels hits this a bit more with the ayyyliens part, anyway

>>10294449
Tl;dr Drehy sucks every dick in the palace and they let them out

>>10294449
Probably not. Tentative name of the upcoming Stormlight novella is Wandersail so we'll get an entire book of Rysn being cute.

>>10296069
Are parshendi cocks marbled?

>>10296182
You know what would be absolutely hilarious? /sffg/ finding a way to visit fictional universes.

>>10296237
*
So many questions. So many opportunities to get completely screwed over by every other character. So many chances to meme.

>>10296237
We'd be going around sniffing safehands while the apocalpyse is happening.

>>10295217
He's almost there at the end of the 3rd book I'd say. Very good progression in the 2nd book.

>>10295472
He meant that he doesn't want boring names for his books. He also took a jab at Rothfuss' turd of a second book.

>>10295665
>>10295666
The one where he drinks with the beggar king of heralds was interesting, if only because of the deeper lore there. They were all pretty informative chapters about his past, and I could definitely see him as more and more of a monster after reading each one.

>>10296050
Thanx, added to to-read list.


Currently 80% through Deadhouse Gates. Fun ride so far, stuff getting into gear with the second river crossing currently.
Next I'm hoping to get through Unholy Consult.

>>10296363
Finish it asap before it gets spoiled

what does he do with his life?

>>10295476
>Unkalaki red hair
HOLY SHIT rock is part parshman that is why he could see sprens, that means he could be possessed by voidspren / parshman souls sometime in the future

>>10293488
>tfw the passage where Aran'gar uses her Aes Sedai as a sex slave lasts for a whole one sentence instead of five pages

>>10293488
>tfw the passage where Aran'gar uses her Aes Sedai as a sex slave lasts for a whole one sentence instead of five pages

I miss Iain M. Banks.

>>10294226
This is Vivi you goddamned millenial.

>>10296384
uploads daenerys cum tributes to porn sites

>>10296076
>Wandersail
It's going to be about those new boats.

>>10296415
They probably based veigar on him then.
I don't know how i am a millennial when I was born in the 1980s. Not my fault I'm wasn't autistic enough to follow the shit you did as a kid

>>10292345
Isn't she supposed to be have graying hair already by the beginning of the book?

>>10294552
>Did you read x?
>Yes.
>Well I'm not discussing it haha nice bait though better luck next time my man

>>10296443
Millennials start in 1980.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennials

>>10296428
What's the deal with that one city in the... Third? Interlude? With the sailors and the soulcaster going to investigate but the cook poisons them all. Had a... palisade of titanic stone spears jutting out of the water. Any other references to it I missed? Seemed really odd to me.

>>10296489
There's two relevant epigraphs. One is the Aimians telling Hoid to go fuck himself and that if he wants help to get through these barriers and come ask in person. The other is some radiant that said everyone in the tower was retarded and that he was going to go explore the underwater caverns around Aimia.

>>10294766
I don't know that there's been a take over, but there sure is some annoying shit sometimes.

On a completely unrelated note, why do women keep trying to write fantasy?

>>10296487
>>10296443
>>10296415
No they don't.

Generation Y and millenials are often grouped together, despite there being a huge difference between the two.

>>10295803
>we rec isekai now
Thanks Sanderson.

>>10296489
Well, that 'cook' seems to be the Unmade that Lift encountered in Edgedancer.
I wonder where exactly the place they were at... was at. Somewhere in/near Aimia?
Also I wonder what was up with that one early lighthouse interlude, talking about it being a bad thing that people would show up coming from the Origin but that people would show up regardless.

>>10295299
I did not catch half, or even a third of that. Terminus Est being a cross (if that is what you mean) I did realize but I thought of it more as a phallus symbol, what with the canal and the liquid inside. I've never been close to Christianity culturally so I don't feel like to much of a brainlet.

>>10296384
Write novella length blog posts the about not writing books.

>>10296593
That's not an unmade, just a Hordeling. Basically every time you hear about a cremling nearby it's a piece of them listening. According to Sanderson they'll become relevant in scifi Mistborn.

>>10296659
Oh right. It's an Aimian, not an Unmade. Why did I think that? I wonder HOW they'll be relevant come endgame.

I'd like to get back into the think of things regarding Brandon answers but the forum evidently has a hard-on for making it as humanly difficult as possible to keep track of recent Q&As and the like.

>>10296668
>cosmerefag has return and his autism is 100% unlocked
God help us. Keep us informed of new developments.

>>10296688
Whaaaaaa. I don't think I have the interest to sift through all their shit. I'm behind on question reveals for at least six months, very likely more. That's a trove of material. I'm sure I'll run across some reveals when I read through the forum theories and whatnot but don't expect anything amazing.

Sure wish we could get The Lost Metal sometime fucking ever. I want to see the continuation of Odium's advances upon Scadrial.

>>10296710
That's Autonomy anon.

>>10296716
>red and gold
Try again.

>>10296710
I honestly can't wait. Odium has been a busy boy, and clearly wants to destroy Harmony alot more then he does others. Whatever happens on Roshar, the final struggle with Odium will probably happen on Scadrial.

>download oathbringer
>50+ hours long
>could finish 3 or more books during that time
>want to meme with everyone but also need to fill my subpar goodreads quota
>literally weeks remaining for the year
It's hard to keep up with you guys

>>10296771
I wonder how Odium will get free: will it be brute force or willing release?

>>10294897
Book of the new sun, not even a thought about it. I probably read it all 6 or more times.

>>10296724
You seriously didn't notice all the Trell references on Taldain? And the whole "you are all his puppets" thing in Wax's books?

Give me some GOOD sci-fi horror hybrids, FUCK!

>>10296850
Probably be defeated and forced to leave the system by the new Honor.

>>10294897
wheel of time of course

>>10296862
True, I wonder if Autonomy is in league with Odium.

>>10296911
But keeping him trapped there is what they want, unless they actually Splinter Odium somehow.

>>10294455
Are on the Dragon Reborn? Mat only really picks up speed in that book before he really comes into his own in the 4th.

>>10297068
in truth i like the three tavaren
it's only egwene i hate with passion
and i usually dont hate characters

>>10297083
Egwene turns into a bitch at the same rate Nynaeve stops being one.
There must always be a bitch.

>>10296893
Lovecraft obviously. Try the Walls of Eryx.
The Illustrated Man and The October Country by Ray Bradbury.

>>10296406
yeah, no shit. How much have we missed by losing him so soon? Also fuck GRR Martin, he made a long ass blog post when that guy who played the mafia boss in The Sopranos died but didnt have a word to say about Banks. Im a GoT fan but that still rankles me.

>oathbringer has another autistic digression to explain illogical world building

It's like Brandon was reading forums and writing explanations in response questions and criticism into the narrative. True autism.

>>10297165
Didn't Niven do the same thing with The Ringworld Engineers?

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