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Is /lit/ becoming to mainstream?

Should we embrace a wider audience?

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>boipucci in /lit/ parlance

>> No.10263151
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>Rachael Allen...
Where does she belong?

>> No.10263152

boipucci is his anus not his backside, Rachael.

>> No.10263155

Making profit off of 4chan is a passing fad. It will always be niche because of its anonymity and reputation.

>> No.10263162

>young white man
jesus fucking christ.
i guess mukattoes such as myself who contribute on a regular basis are dog food to the liberal swine who seek to compartmentalize and report on the gentle rollickings of /lit/izens. what a fucking douchebag rachel allen must be.

>> No.10263168

I can't find this article on their website, nor is Rachael Allen listed in their contributors since 1979.
I remember her though, she released a small book of poems based on each board. I have a copy.

>> No.10263169

>>10263106
From doing some cursory googling I can tell you this article doesn't exist.

>> No.10263174

Wow we made it into the LRB? Link to full article please OP, or at least post the rest. That's pretty high-brow if I do say so myself.

>> No.10263180

>>10263106
>>boipucci, in /lit/ parlance

golden!

>> No.10263181

>>10263169
>not having a subscription giving you advance access
get real

check the date of the article you drongo

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>>10263168
post it please

>> No.10263189

>>10263184
I can't post a physical book, no matter how slim it is. This tumblr post has most of it in though
http://postinternetpoetry.tumblr.com/post/83420223108/irl-rachael-allens-4chan-poems

>> No.10263191

>>10263183
Those are the regular contributors Dumas. Do you realize how many pages / contributors are in each copy?

>> No.10263192

>>10263191
Post the whole thing then.

>> No.10263194

>>10263106

>young white man

She didnt bother to spend some time on /lit/ or search other boards. Its not like there arent asians and spics posting here

>> No.10263200

>>10263192
I'm not the guy with access, but it's a big-ass magazine.

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>of course
Their writing style is annoying. Of course? We're not you, faggot.

>>10263162
It's also stupid because the entire internet has more young white males. I'm not white either.

>> No.10263205

>>10263194
yeah. besides, i think she lumped /lit/ in with /pol/, not realizing that /lit/ typically remains resilient to the shifts of /pol/, and overall has a leftist slant.
fucking dumbass shits coming here without just asking us what's going on point blank.
>hey guys, this anonymous board is full of white people only, even though across the entire website there is an obvious international diversity!

>> No.10263209

>>10263106
Non males just hate to see males enjoying themselves.

>> No.10263212

>>10263151
Oh jesus christ.

Ar there ones for other magazines?

>> No.10263224
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10263224

>all these self-declared non-whites squatting on a white culture board and in white countries.

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>>10263212

>> No.10263232

>>10263224
hey, let's be honest. this is a greek culture board in particular. and you're a faggot.

>> No.10263233

>Give an insight into the mind of the literary young white man

Well that's fucking racist. There are chicks and non-whites all over 4chan. She should see pics from some of /pol/'s meetups.

>> No.10263234

>>10263224
I'm Hispanic but grew up in a 99% white town, I checked. So maybe I'm really white.

>> No.10263236

>>10263229
HOLY SHIT

How the hell do they get away with it?

>> No.10263240

>>10263233
goy, she can't be racist.

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>>10263106
fucking gold

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>>10263236
Antisemitism is a hate crime.

>> No.10263251

>>10263234
I knew it all along. You chicano fucks are the ones that keep recommending Mein Kampf.

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every time my eyes glide over "young white man" it chaps my ass.
god dammit i'm going to bed.

>> No.10263257

>>10263106
>...of the contemporary literary young man
Stopped reading there

>> No.10263259

>>10263253
Correction: your "boipucci" is what gets chapped.

>> No.10263261

>>10263234
Sure, white like all those "whites" on the FBI most wanted list.

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>>10263259

>> No.10263268

Anyone got paywall? 4chan as a whole (not us in particular, unfortunately) is mentioned
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2014/12/18/anonymous-todays-dead-end-kids/

>> No.10263272

>>10263168
>t. rachael trying to get /lit/ to shit on her poems so she can polish off the rancid turd she wrote with a personal flair

>> No.10263274

>>10263268
>December 18, 2014

>> No.10263276

>>10263274
I just did a search on the NYRB website, I don't think I ever implied it was recent. I just want to see what they have to say about us.

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>>10263272
She wouldn't have to dig too hard if that was what she wanted.
>>/lit/thread/S8660416

>> No.10263282

>>10263106
That is not how you use the term "ambivalently".

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>>10263106
LITERALLY laughed out loud at boipucci

>> No.10263288

>>10263279
oh, so the bitch has a vendetta. bet fifty bucks she comes weekly to see if she's been mentioned.

>> No.10263293

>>10263288
that seems fairly unlikely

>> No.10263298

>>10263293
>tfw she posted in that thread
>I find it funny that what I took from the time I have spent here (and keep doing so) is the mid twenties unaccomplished guys not knowing, as with most things, how to deal with the random approval of other writers, in my case I do understand it stems from probably feeling threatened. Fact is I'm no different from you. If most of you would actually care into putting the time and effort into doing something serious I have absolute conviction that you would be noticed.

>keep doing so

>> No.10263299

>>10263282
Probably depends on context of that thread.

>> No.10263310

>>10263299
have you ever expressed the opinion that someone reads a lot like Elliot Rodger with mixed feelings? seems like they were casually saying what the guy wrote like. it was a statement, not "oh, i don't know, maybe this guy writes like Elliot, or maybe he writes like the unabomber"

>> No.10263333

>>10263293
if it a was a smart person they'd just use the search function
but in this case it is a woman

>> No.10263338

>>10263333
>t. rachael calling for pitchforks against herself

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>>10263136

>boipucci in /lit/ parlance

It's really dishonest to characterize a community by its worst members. This woman is as much a hack as any of the idiots who write for these dumb publications.

>> No.10263373

>It's a 'someone who doesn't GET 4chan talks about 4chan'-episode

>> No.10263382

>>10263373
no, they get it, they're just purposefully misrepresenting it for money.

>> No.10263383

When will Louis Thereoux do a /lit/ episode? I feel like he's the only one who'd do us justice.

>> No.10263389

Guess the ethnicity of the London Review of Books' editor.

>> No.10263390

>>10263106
>"Analysis of a poem by Robert Frost is treated [...] seriously"
her biggest mistake was implying there is anything good about this board whatsoever

>> No.10263401

>>10263234
As white as new fallen snow.

t. /int/

>> No.10263406

>>10263298
I hadn't noticed that, that was very nice of her. I tried to get in touch with her at the time, I think I sent her a message on facebook perhaps but got no response. Not that I took it as an intentional snub.

>> No.10263407

>>10263389
I'm going to go with Jew who presents as White?

>> No.10263409

>>10263390
t. 6-12 month old plebbit rapefugee

>> No.10263419

>>10263234
> I racially identify as white

>> No.10263430

>>10263407
wtf how... did you know.. jews are less than 2% the population

>> No.10263452

>>10263229
>(((best))) writers
I've never even heard of any of them

>> No.10263470

>>10263169
Have to agree. No need to google - the poor writing is a dead give away. Plus one would have to lurk for years to see anything of even the remotest value, let alone "debates on Kantian ethics."

>> No.10263497

I think the author misrepresents a lot of things and should feel bad about that.

I just like to talk about literature, and there aren't that many places left where people read and discuss actual literature.

Heavily moderated forums smother actual discussion, getting rid of those opinions which are most interesting. Anonymity is best for straightforward non pretentious discussion. Nobody cares who you are.

>> No.10263499

>>10263497
I care who you are Anon! :3

>> No.10263505

>>10263499
Fuck off, fag.

>> No.10263514

It’s a pretty generous characterisation desu

>> No.10263525

>>10263514
i agree. mom's gonna be surprised when it turns out i was a white male all along!

>> No.10263541

>>10263106
Fake news. Sad :(

>> No.10263557

>>10263136
Hardly, it's core internet vocabulary these days.

>> No.10263594

>>10263229
>tfw taking a sabbatical from /pol/ to relax
>discover more Jews in the media
Thanks, really appreciate it! Don'r mind if I save?

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>>10263594
Latest version

>> No.10263687

>>10263191
Sorry, did you auto-correct from "Dumbass", or are you meaning to insult him by calling him "Dumas"? I can just never tell with this board.
t. Rachael Allen

>> No.10263694

>>10263151
Citation?

>> No.10263710

Most recent....


America: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/apr/26/granta-list-best-young-american-novelists

+

Britain: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/apr/15/granta-list-british-novelists

>> No.10263712

>>10263710
for
>>10263694

>> No.10263716

>>10263205
If you've been on here awhile it's easier to differentiate between casual racism, cultural racism, and racist racism. If your referent for the internet is Facebook-type shit, however, im sure this whole place looks like a white supremacist hugbox.

>> No.10263722

>>10263106
Your prose sucks. Kill yourself, Rachel.

>> No.10263727

>>10263712
Ah, I was under the impression the numbers were a ranking. Are there listings which prove the ethnicity of these people? Most of them listed as Jewish don’t have Jewish names besides Cohen and Hallberg.

>> No.10263730

>>10263234
>le epic false flag post. let me post my ameri-mutt meme now1 epic for teh win

>> No.10263742

>>10263727
>Ah, I was under the impression the numbers were a ranking.

Dumb goy.

Also, if you find it so hard to believe some brief google searches will prove they're Jewish. Evidence isnt hard to find.

>> No.10263745

>>10263106
Where's the rest of the fucking article you tease?

>> No.10263746

>>10263716
>casual racism, cultural racism, and racist racism

That's still all racism and I don't think coming to 4chan makes you any better (or worse) at differentiating between these concepts.
Figuring out who are the ironyfags, the newfag tryhards and the actual stormfront posters, maybe.

>> No.10263762

>>10263742
Right off the bat, Adam Thirlwell is Protestant. I’ll continue searching, though.

>> No.10263765

Lol, I fucked her once

>> No.10263771

>>10263762
You goddamned idiot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1NirWXpVOk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_Jewish_writers

>> No.10263772

>>10263229
Really makes you think

>> No.10263782

>>10263771
I’ve seen 7, Lauren Groff, Sana Krasikov, and Mark Doten have no information on being Jewish. Anything on them?

>> No.10263805

>>10263782
dude googling "sana krasikov jewish" brings this up as the first result...

http://forward.com/culture/qa/106174/sana-krasikov-inspiration-all-her-own/

>> No.10263856

>>10263746
Yeah, but you can see why someone would assume everyone here is white.

>> No.10263922

>>10263151
Do you believe every ms paint infographic?

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>>10263136
Gave me a chuckle, too

>> No.10263937

>>10263922
>hurr durr he used mspaint he stoopid

Facts are facts, Schlomo

>> No.10263959

>Parlance

Ooh I like that word.

>> No.10263961

come on man, you know we'd all pretend to be dykes if some chick from the LRB showed up

>> No.10263967

>>10263229
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!!!

>> No.10263976

I know there's at least one black poster here who reads HP Lovecraft. checkmate "Rachael"

>> No.10263982

Yeah, it's fake.

https://www.lrb.co.uk/v39/n22/alice-spawls/if-it-werent-for-charlotte

* list pages are the same, as is the word count
* the "More by this contributor" section on the left side has some overlap -- which shouldn't be the case (since they're by Spawls instead of Allen)

>> No.10264026

>>10263982
All one has to do is read it to know its fake. The writing is awful

>> No.10264061

>>10263106
Imagine being in your 20s and comprehending the world the same way a myopic septuagenarian does.

>> No.10264157

ain't it funny how, despite the very nature of 4chan providing an occlusion of its users' identities, all these media talking heads assume it to be a strictly straight/white/male phenomenon? says a bit more about their preconceived notions on race/whatnot, doncha think?

>> No.10264190

>>10263982
I can't find anything similar to the text in the actual image elsewhere online and given Allen's sort-of-links-that-everyone-here-but-her-and-I-forgot to this place I wouldn't be surprised if it was her posting a mock-up of an article intended for next month.
Just a theory.

>> No.10264194

>>10263162
because saying its only white males is supposed to be a negative signal, like if something is white it is inherently bad

>> No.10264231

>>10264194
Due to this being a jewish rag and since straight white males are the only threat to jewish power. In a sane world without jewish slander and lies, straight white males would be endlessly lauded for being the originators of literally every comfort and luxury these non-straight white males enjoy. They're going to feel the full wrath this time though.

>> No.10264258

>>10263106
>young white men
She thinks /lit/ is white!

>> No.10264360

>here you will find everything from debates on Kantian ethics to discussions about which male poet possesses the most attractive backside (or "boipucci", in /lit/ parlance)

What's her point here? All this proves is that this truly is THE MOST patrician place on the internet.

>> No.10264368

>>10264360
If we pretend for a moment that the article is real, that is just a description. It’s not healthy to look for derision in everything you read, it will wear you down.

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>>10263162
>WASP complaining about young white men
>on my /lit/

>> No.10264415

>>10263155
You dumb faggot, 4chan is normie now.

>> No.10266706

>>10264415
>4chan is normie now
we could still save /lit/

>> No.10266717

>>10263162

get out of here nigger

>> No.10266864

>>10266717
Nah.

>> No.10266906

>>10266717
Iceberg Slim can stay, it’s these roastwhores that have to go

>> No.10266929

>>10264415
No faggot. The bottom of the barrel is contrarian culture. If you take the opposite position of whatever is popular then by definition you will always remain deviant no matter what happens. The trade off is that no one here knows who's being ironic anymore and whose actually an idiot.

>> No.10266930

>>10263106
>contemporary literary young white man
There's more than white people here, Rachael.
t. Spic

>> No.10266943

>>10266930
what gets me is the hypocrisy. i usually don't mind racism whatsoever. it's when a person who holds themselves under the guise of social justice, is racist themselves. they would happily burn at the cross anyone guilty of racism, and they can't even see how fucking mired in it they are themselves.
especially considering these peoplemare taken as champions, guardians of the cause, that they are held as such and are able and willing to commit to such mental foibles, it saps me of hope for the future of mankind. I don't wish for this fool or anyone to speak for me. The fact that they think they need to is enough to show their delusions of superiority.

>> No.10266961

>>10266943
yeah, i get you, it's pretty much objectification, and, according to their own framework, and exercise of their white, first-world power lmao

I kinda feel bad for them in a way, though; some of them are really not that bad irl. A friend of mine is pretty much like that, and I don't think she's bad per se, just misguided and really sheltered.

>> No.10266986

>>10266961
I mean, relatively, the people with these views have good intentions, yes, I just don't like being spoken for.
I mean, I'm fairly racist against blacks, though the negro blood flows through my veins, I get pissed every time I see a moronic nig strut around without a single damn book jangling around in his nappy head. But beyond that, comes the self hating white, Defending that very same nig when he inevitably robs a store and murders someone without the slightest bit of remorse. As though they forgive and defend them merely for being black, for the color of the skin, and not the content of their character. I will admit that my prejudices are foolish and ignorant, and widely based on culture rather than race, but these hypocrits are on my last damn nerve.

>> No.10266992

>>10266986
>I'm fairly racist against blacks, though the negro blood flows through my veins
dominican?

>> No.10266993

>>10266986
*hypocrites. i knew that looked fucked up.

>> No.10266995

>>10266992
Mulatto. Mother white, father black. Typical patriarchal negro abandonment syndrome, really.

>> No.10266998

>>10266986
And the self-hating white's stupidity only ends up being bad for the people who share a culture with the nig who robbed the store. They don't share a nieghborhood or country with them, so of course they pat themselves on the back and call it a day, lumping every person together based exclusively on how they look.

But again, I think that's a result of really sheltered lives. It annoys the fuck out of me, but not to the extent that autistic-screeching ideologues do. Those are the corrosive ones, along with media outlets that do the same thing as the misguided, self-hating white.

>> No.10267005

>>10266998
Yes, I definitely see the value in keeping my own moronic thoughts to myself except in harmless formats such as this one. In public and via the media, the poison of ignorance seeps pungent into the minds of men better served by literature.

>> No.10267250

>>10266995
If you still have a close relationship with your mother you really are a worthless individual.

>> No.10267477

>>10263267
God is love, anon.

>> No.10267514

>>10263162
Well duh. 4chan is a bad place so it must be white.

I've certainly noticed there's a lot of hispanics and southern europeans on /lit/.

>> No.10267516

>>10263189
>For the generation who grew up with the internet, born around 1990, 4chan forms part of adolescence in the 00s, alongside MySpace pages and instant messaging. After the rise of web 2.0’s “real-name culture”, 4chan is an archaic (and anarchic) hold-out of an earlier form of online community, offering a ludic escape from identity as liberation from the intersections of real world power relationships. In a space of completely un(self)censored speech, the only things left unsaid are the unsayable. Freeing users from any repercussions in their social lives, from the policing tactics of stigma or shame, anonymity on 4chan solicits total confession (and absolute obscenity) whilst making its veracity irrelevant. As in confessional poetry, disclosure becomes a dramatic quality, a performed challenge to the limits of fiction; unlike confessional poetry, anonymous disclosure can only be dramatic, and identity can only be an implication of the text.

That's actually not a bad analysis. 4chan sucks when it crosses into the real world, which is why /pol/ is terrible and spawned terrible stuff like that Trump subreddit.