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So I just talked to this girl who’s essentially omniscient. Can you evaluate our chat and explain to me what this ‘connection’ that she takes about is? I’ve never had a ‘connection’ with a book.

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>> No.10245095

>>10245080

>is it a samurai book lol

why do you subject yourself to this

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>> No.10245101

>>10245080
>girl
>omniscient
>writes like a retard

Yeah, no.

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>>10245095
What do you mean? The disrespect?

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>> No.10245106

>>10245080
fuck off back to memdit

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>>10245101
She’s Chinese, so she writes weird.

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>> No.10245113

This is a boring shit conversation

>> No.10245116

>>10245080
>durr western philosophy is about "why" and eastern philosophy is about "how
don't date someone who vastly oversimplifies
>>10245084
>approaching the greeks with her nonsensical theory in mind
>>10245090
some garbage story about musashi miyamoto
he was a criminal vagabond who began murdering as early as 13

OP you seem more intelligent than she is
she's namedropping garbage

don't let the pussy blind you
she's an inferior intellect and should be crushed

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>>10245113
As someone who’s shit at conversation: it’s my best and I know I should be ashamed of it :(

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>> No.10245120

>>10245112
>automatically makes me their equal
Lolololol

>> No.10245121

>>10245080
yeah not gonna read that holy shit

>> No.10245123

Stupid chink who thinks she's so enlightened. How can you stomach her?

>> No.10245125

>>10245109
>she's chinese
tell her to read about Nanking and Unit 731

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>>10245116
I’m the blue, senpai. Also, Musashi isn’t good because you like the guy, I don’t like him before his metamorphosis, but because of the philosophy and discipline.

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>> No.10245128

>>10245116
Game changer. OP is in blue.

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>>10245123
I don’t like that about her to be honest, she thinks she’s the smartest person to ever step foot on earth, while she’s somewhat superficial in person.

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>> No.10245134

chinks are brainlets and can't into actual philosophy

>> No.10245136

>>10245127
>you're in the blue
ABORT
ABORT
YOU'RE TELLING HER YOUR FAVOURITE BOOK IS JAPANESE
SHE'S A CHINK
THEY HATE THE NIPS

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>>10245128
Tbh I consider myself illiterate when it comes to literature. I’m trying to work with the little that I have.

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>> No.10245140

>>10245116
lol

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>>10245096
>when studying it by itself I fail to grasp its importance

Fuck-posturing pseud detected. You should be laying the groundwork for a piping, not listening to her prattle.

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>>10245136
Holy shit, I just realized that.... we’ll, she didn’t seem to mind it much, maybe she internally hates me after this though.

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>> No.10245146

>>10245131
I would drop her desu
Even if she had a golden pussy and could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch and I hadn't gotten laid in years.

>> No.10245152

>>10245127
>if he taught me something then I wouldn't go back to the book, because I already learned, so there's no point in going back.

Oh wow, have not seen shit this stupid in a while and I browse this board.

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>>10245146
She’s probably as smart as anyone gets where I live, or at least she gives off that impression.

14 and final.


So basically, she says she doesn’t learn from books, but she connects with the characters in a spiritual level. How can that be? Perhaps she learns from them, but then goes back for the spiritual connection and doesn’t realize that she learns?

>> No.10245158

>>10245145
I wouldn't bother with her
she has some kind of power complex and refuses to be in a receptive frame in the conversation, always mildly deflecting you and even refusing to encourage you to explain the way you feel about things
she doesn't wanna smash you senpai

>> No.10245159

>>10245156
>She’s probably as smart as anyone gets where I live
I would rather date a literal retard.

>> No.10245162

>>10245156
>giving her a smiley face
now she knows you want to fuck her
you've put yourself at an extreme disadvantage

>> No.10245165

>>10245156
Well, she seem to think that no learning can happen because she has everything in her head already,

>> No.10245167

>>10245152
O guess she kinda is pseudo intellectual, but oh well....

>>10245158
To be honest, I don’t think she was deflecting me out of malice but more out of ‘fear’ of accepting new input to her established values? Is that coherent? The way she looks at this is just so... uncommon?

Also, it’s not about smashing.

>> No.10245171

>>10245156
You need to read up on the emoji game. bad move.

>> No.10245180

>>10245162
My sides. But yeah, i guess that was weird, should’ve used an emoji

>>10245165
That’s what it seems to me as well.

>>10245171
:(

All in all, what do you guys think of her way of looking at literature? Going back for spiritual connections seems... odd? And when I called it entertainment she kind of took offense to it.

>> No.10245182

>>10245084
>im reading the greeks first to go to other philosophers

you know this is a meme, right, kid?

>> No.10245183

>>10245171
It's a one line book.
Don't ever use them.

>> No.10245184

>>10245171
>the emoji game
Any links, I have no idea about this shit.

>> No.10245188

>>10245182
I fell for it, but I’m very meticulous about reading stuff in chronological order to make connections between each of them and their origins.

>> No.10245189

>>10245184
The emoji game only works after you fuck a girl though. Especially the clown emoji

>> No.10245191

why the fuck is anybody responding to this teenage /adv/ bullshit thread

>> No.10245198

>>10245191
Because this, while superficially is just a text conversation, is essentially a discussion on why to read, And why philosophy.

>> No.10245199

>>10245165
read plato desu

>> No.10245201

Wow. Just wow, really. I mean is this how girls and guys actually talk in private? It's astonishing in how absolutely dull, vapid and inconsequential it is. Are you trying to penetrate this girl? Are you trying to date her? If not why are you sitting there posting emojis and admitting your stupidity and tacitly encouraging her to continue her superficial analysis of "Asian" philosophy. Who even calls it "Asian" philosophy? It's Eastern, for goodness sake. I can only imagine Schopenhauer finding a phone in his class after giving a lecture and reading through texts like this and rubbing his forehead in utter dismay. Personally as someone who has utterly transcended the need and pretty much even the desire to sniff pussy stink and jam my penis inside a girl a bunch of times I am embarrassed for you both and thankful that I simply don't care about girls enough to debase myself the way you're doing here. Trust me, I can just tell that this is the kind of girl that I could have crushing on me like some Klebold fangirl within several minutes of discussion, if this the kind of thing she's interested in. But this is really eye-opening stuff OP. Makes me want to kill myself immediately.

>> No.10245202

>>10245183
I see you've forgotten the second half written for girls.

>> No.10245203

>reading for feels
>being butthurt when called out for it and launching into pseudo-intellectual ramblings for justification

Cut all communication.

>> No.10245207

>>10245156
Dude she doesn't seem intelligent at all and is bullshitting out her ass with small sentences while you ramble on about things she obviously doesn't give a fuck about.

Women are usually this way, it's pathetic.

>> No.10245209

>>10245180
honestly anon, you seem like a nice fellow with good intentions but this girl is not even close to omniscient. This bitch is retarded. But go to the philosophy club, maybe her friend is hot, you haven't lost all hope.

>> No.10245219

>>10245156
nigga it's reading
it will stick to your memory regardless of spiritual connection
she is right in saying it's just thought and theories
she comes off full of shit when saying new ideas or concepts don't tell her anything she doesn't know, if she knew an idea, it wouldn't be new by definition
i sure hope she's smart enough for that ego

>> No.10245223

>>10245199
She seems to claim that the immortal soul cannot remember for it already remembers everything.

>> No.10245226

>>10245201
basically this OP

Also you """lost""" the minute you decided to post the convo here for advice. If you truly want to have a philosophical discussion with this girl then you must be devoid of any will to fuck her (which you obviously want to do, or at least gain her affection, which might be worse). You can, if you want, fuck her first, and then have philosophical discussion, but this is just ridiculous. To repeat what anon said, this makes me want to kill myself immediately.

>> No.10245231

>>10245223
I don't think she meant that.

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>>10245201
>Personally as someone who has utterly transcended the need and pretty much even the desire to sniff pussy stink and jam my penis inside a girl a bunch of times I am embarrassed for you both and thankful that I simply don't care about girls enough to debase myself the way you're doing here
Kek

>> No.10245242

>>10245201
Sorry but I actually had to look up if this was a copypasta. I'm DEFINITELY saving it.

And yeah, that's how people talk in private, big surprise.

What would you propose instead?

>>10245207
I think you might've opened this red capsule on my mouth with your two lines reply...

And what do you mean by that first line? We were talking about philosophy, I said "Anyway, have a good one" thinking she'd want to cut the convo short and not wanting to get shot down (they can't shoot you down if you shut them down first)-- well, ultimately she did shut me down, sooooo. Well anyway, she obviously had SOME interest considering she kept the conversation going even when she had the perfect opportunity to leave.

>>10245209
She really just thinks she's smarter than she is, in my opinion, and isn't open to outside input. It's what happens when you're raised by ultra authoritarian chinese politicians.


>>10245226
I posted here in hopes to have her point of view explained. Like how in the fuck can someone feel a spiritual connection with a book yet not learn from it?

Also, while I do seek affection of essentially everyone, it's not the reason I'm talking to her, just looking for someone to have a philosophy discussion with.

>> No.10245245

>>10245158
>she has some kind of power complex and refuses to be in a receptive frame in the conversation
You mean she doesn't want to read pages of inane drivel from some doofus?

>>10245152
Except that's not what she said. She contrasted top-down pedagogy with dialogic pedagogy. Conversation is a back and forth, so rereading makes sense; reading for lessons means moving on after mastery.

>>10245167
>kinda pseudo intellectual
>I did a bit of research on Chinese philosophy
>skimmed an atlantic article about a chinese philosophy class at harvard


Jesus Christ... No wonder idiots at Jezebel make up words like "mansplaining"

>> No.10245250

>>10245245
>reading once is mastery

>> No.10245254

>>10245231
What I meant was that if you interpreted her writings through Plato, you would arrive to the statement I wrote.

>> No.10245258

>reads philosophy once, becomes >>10245245

>> No.10245264

>>10245201
>>10245226
You're definitely doing it wrong, but don't listen to these morons
>solitary objection is "eastern" vs "asian"
>holy shit, oxford comma, you fucking pleb

> believe others are incapable of growth because they themselves are.

If you want to actually talk about something, you have to actually listen. So far you've just lectured about nothing at all.

You'd benefit from actually reading a fucking book. It'd be a lesson in humility. One that you desperately need.

>> No.10245265

ffs guys, I posted this just wanting to know what she meant by "Spiritual and emotional connection" with a character/book. Like, how does that even work?

>> No.10245271

>>10245264
What, me? (I'm the OP)

>> No.10245277

>>10245250
Do you know how to read?
a) paraphrasing op's imaginary girlfriend who can't come to prom because she's in beijing
b) "if he taught me something then I wouldn't go back to the book because I already learned" - presumes the content was mastered. Obviously you reread a calc text as you work through it, but once you've figured it out and moved on to more advanced topics, you don't return to the calc i book.

>> No.10245283

>>10245254
I know, but I doubt she was talking about it in the Platonic sense.

>>10245265
You can most certainly have a spiritual and emotional connection with a character or book. How is that even in question? The retarded thing is she saying that she already knows everything, or that she doesn't learn new things from philosophy, but that isn't actually true, the most important thing she said was "I fail to grasp its importance" - she is either uninterested completely in philosophy by itself (as many very smart girls seem to be) or is a complete idiot. If you don't have a spark in your mind which makes you want to read philosophy then it will indeed only look like "mind food", interesting ideas to think about which don't exactly give you any new answers.

>> No.10245287

>>10245265
She likes reading because it gives her feelings. Feelings are usually not held in very high regard in more intellectual circles and are usually conflated with entertainment , so she comes up with all sorts of pseudo-intellectual justifications for them.

>> No.10245293

>>10245271
You, but thread (read: board) generally. You don't even need to read the texts to see what's happening. Just look at blue:gray ratio.

Just relax and actually engage instead of spewing out the 100 ideas you got reading samurai manga

>> No.10245295

>>10245226
Having a """discussion""" with a roastie of any calibre, especially over text (i.e. while she simultaneously talks about cocks with Sandra and Chayenne) is just fucking deplorable, truly. I am so blackpilled on women that it really amazes me how far I've come from being a "nice", smiling, docile little boy to a mysterious, seemingly-callous, independent, profound libidinal intellectual pseudo-sadist. The first thing to do with any woman you want to penetrate is assert a distance between you. Do not let her get close. Keep her at arm's length and only very rarely make it clear that you want and desire her. People in general, and women in particular, DO NOT want to worship a human being. They want an image, a reliable, powerful, consistent force of Will that they can attach themselves to, shade themselves under, and live vicariously through. By being a cutesy idiot posting lengthy texts explaining your pleb-tier opinion of "Asian" philosophy to some piece of stupid fuckmeat you are admitting that you (A) Don't have anybody informed on the subject to talk to, (B) Are begging for her validation and "feedback, (C) Are oblivious to the fact that this submissive, masochistic little cunt wants a sexual partner, or a boyfriend, at her age and not some entry-level philosophical sparring partner. If she wanted that she'd go choke on the cock of some PhD student studying fucking Kantian epistemology, not a dumb weeb who reads Samurai fanfiction to reinforce his self-image as a serious academic. Seriously OP sort your shit out immediately or throw yourself off a goddamn bridge already. It's painful. You need to learn as quickly as you can what women want, and what they do not want. Women enjoy tension, intimidation, the relief from repression, the utter debasement of themselves in service of a man who represents brute force and who apparently gets as much of a kick out of pissing on her, choking her, destroying her dignity and violently using her body and forcing her to admit her utter inferiority as she does in allowing a guy to do that to her. Very few women are looking for some dumb nerdy nice dude with tenuous philosophical positions, and those who do are usually boring as hell. You need to straighten up and become the Fascist you know you can be. Be as brutal with yourself as the potential woman in your life wants you to be with her. There is no second option.

>> No.10245296

>>10245287
>feelings are usually not held in very high regard in more intellectual circles

do you people ever read anything you write? have you ever seen an "intellectual circle?"

>> No.10245298

>>10245283
I don't think she was either, but I was responding to >>10245199's point about my initial observation.

>> No.10245299

>>10245265
U have gotta have the tism man. Emotional connection is what you experience when you read a book or watch an anime that makes you feel connected to the character and you feel good or bad depending on what happens to them. It's superfical but that explains why it appeals to much to womeme.

>> No.10245308

>>10245295

Having a """discussion""" with a roastie of any calibre, especially over text (i.e. while she simultaneously talks about cocks with Sandra and Chayenne) is just fucking deplorable, truly. I am so blackpilled on women that it really amazes me how far I've come from being a "nice", smiling, docile little boy to a mysterious, seemingly-callous, independent, profound libidinal intellectual pseudo-sadist. The first thing to do with any woman you want to penetrate is assert a distance between you. Do not let her get close. Keep her at arm's length and only very rarely make it clear that you want and desire her. People in general, and women in particular, DO NOT want to worship a human being. They want an image, a reliable, powerful, consistent force of Will that they can attach themselves to, shade themselves under, and live vicariously through. By being a cutesy idiot posting lengthy texts explaining your pleb-tier opinion of "Asian" philosophy to some piece of stupid fuckmeat you are admitting that you (A) Don't have anybody informed on the subject to talk to, (B) Are begging for her validation and "feedback, (C) Are oblivious to the fact that this submissive, masochistic little cunt wants a sexual partner, or a boyfriend, at her age and not some entry-level philosophical sparring partner. If she wanted that she'd go choke on the cock of some PhD student studying fucking Kantian epistemology, not a dumb weeb who reads Samurai fanfiction to reinforce his self-image as a serious academic. Seriously OP sort your shit out immediately or throw yourself off a goddamn bridge already. It's painful. You need to learn as quickly as you can what women want, and what they do not want. Women enjoy tension, intimidation, the relief from repression, the utter debasement of themselves in service of a man who represents brute force and who apparently gets as much of a kick out of pissing on her, choking her, destroying her dignity and violently using her body and forcing her to admit her utter inferiority as she does in allowing a guy to do that to her. Very few women are looking for some dumb nerdy nice dude with tenuous philosophical positions, and those who do are usually boring as hell. You need to straighten up and become the Fascist you know you can be. Be as brutal with yourself as the potential woman in your life wants you to be with her. There is no second option.

>> No.10245311

>>10245295
no one who uses "color+pill" sincerely is capable of thinking beyond basic trope shunting. you should listen to such retards only if you mistake a shitty metaphor from a children's movie about robots for profundity

>> No.10245312

>>10245293
Those were my ideas. That philosophy should be reading if you are seeking answers.

>>10245299
O possibly have autism, but the thing is, how can you read it over and over again and still feel the anxiety and connection that you feel when first reading it.

>> No.10245313

>>10245311
tell me one thing >>10245295 is wrong about.

>> No.10245314

>>10245311

Having a """discussion""" with a roastie of any calibre, especially over text (i.e. while she simultaneously talks about cocks with Sandra and Chayenne) is just fucking deplorable, truly. I am so blackpilled on women that it really amazes me how far I've come from being a "nice", smiling, docile little boy to a mysterious, seemingly-callous, independent, profound libidinal intellectual pseudo-sadist. The first thing to do with any woman you want to penetrate is assert a distance between you. Do not let her get close. Keep her at arm's length and only very rarely make it clear that you want and desire her. People in general, and women in particular, DO NOT want to worship a human being. They want an image, a reliable, powerful, consistent force of Will that they can attach themselves to, shade themselves under, and live vicariously through. By being a cutesy idiot posting lengthy texts explaining your pleb-tier opinion of "Asian" philosophy to some piece of stupid fuckmeat you are admitting that you (A) Don't have anybody informed on the subject to talk to, (B) Are begging for her validation and "feedback, (C) Are oblivious to the fact that this submissive, masochistic little cunt wants a sexual partner, or a boyfriend, at her age and not some entry-level philosophical sparring partner. If she wanted that she'd go choke on the cock of some PhD student studying fucking Kantian epistemology, not a dumb weeb who reads Samurai fanfiction to reinforce his self-image as a serious academic. Seriously OP sort your shit out immediately or throw yourself off a goddamn bridge already. It's painful. You need to learn as quickly as you can what women want, and what they do not want. Women enjoy tension, intimidation, the relief from repression, the utter debasement of themselves in service of a man who represents brute force and who apparently gets as much of a kick out of pissing on her, choking her, destroying her dignity and violently using her body and forcing her to admit her utter inferiority as she does in allowing a guy to do that to her. Very few women are looking for some dumb nerdy nice dude with tenuous philosophical positions, and those who do are usually boring as hell. You need to straighten up and become the Fascist you know you can be. Be as brutal with yourself as the potential woman in your life wants you to be with her. There is no second option.

>> No.10245318

>>10245295
>>10245308
extreme cringe

>> No.10245319

>>10245313
Some women aren't into masochistic shit, but other than that he's pretty spot-on.

Also, I don't know how a woman can feel affection for you unless you give her a reason to. So keeping her at arm's length seems like a shit strategy unless she was into you just because of looks. If you don't want a relationship solely on looks, you should go for the intellectual or emotional connection to the woman.

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>>10245125
>Unit 731

>> No.10245321

>>10245313
What is worship, if not the thing he describes women wanting.

>> No.10245326

>talk to my friend
what an unexpected tragedy.

>> No.10245328

>>10245311
t. bluepilled roastie

>> No.10245329

>>10245326
What do you mean?

>> No.10245332

>>10245319
It means keep her at arms length so that the connection is still there, but you are still far enough for her to indulge in idealizing you.

>> No.10245339

>>10245318
*swiftly unsheathes katana*

*adopts defensive stance*

Wooow there buddy, are you sure you want to go there?

*drags tip of katana along the floor of the alleyway between us*

There's a line in the dust right there and I think you'd be *pre-tty* dumb to cross it. Am I right fellas?

*several oiled up jocks, shirtless, emerge from the shadows on all sides, surrounding you*

I don't take attacks against my character kindly kiddo, so you better back the hell off?!?!

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>>10245314
good theory but sexual intercourse is immoral you filthy pagan

>> No.10245341

>>10245321
What women want doesn't equal to what will make women want you.

>> No.10245343

>>10245332
That's assuming previous attraction though. If there's no previous attraction, she won't idealize you.

>> No.10245347

Th absolute state of /lit/.

>> No.10245354

>>10245295
Does this strategy work? I mean, obviously you don't want to be an attention-seeking lickspittle like OP, or a needy emotional lamprey, but is "fascism" really an effective method?

Kantian epistemology is pretty much the definition of entry level, by the way.

>> No.10245355

>>10245308
This might work for short flings, but it's impossible to maintain yourself as an "image" forever. You will prove yourself to be a mortal sooner or later.

>> No.10245358

>>10245343
The balance of close/away is there at the very beginning of interaction. But yes, it is a balance, and sometime you need to be close and sometimes more away.

>> No.10245362

>>10245296
What the guy said makes perfect sense, you're the one who's conflating feeling as in "emotion" with feeling as in "fee fees" (aka different opinions). From a intellectual standpoint, a reader who's in it for the cathartic nature of a book is a poor reader who'll probably gloss over narrative and structural qualities in the work just so he can move to the next thrill. This is pretty simple and you sound far dumber than you thought you were going to.

>> No.10245364

>>10245355
that's why you fucc, make her succ, and run away like a shmucc

>> No.10245365

The reason is because the fucking western apes wrote shit down.

>> No.10245368

>sending paragraphs of text to women

even if you're not wanting to fuck her don't ever do this it's annoying

>> No.10245372

>>10245312
"you should go to philosophy club and talk to my friend"

It's not that she didn't want to talk about it. She didn't want to be lectured. You just prattled on and on about learning from Herr Absolut Professor. Stop latching on to the words "spiritual" and "emotion." She's saying arguing for dialectical learning, not saying "I only read John Green"

Not >>10245314 be a sadist, but time and place, anon...

>> No.10245382

>>10245362
except that's not how "intellectual circles" discuss literature now, nor really ever. nor is it what op's girlfriend is saying. also, when was the last time you talked about narrative or the structural qualities of a work on /lit/ other than to pollparrot some tripe you read on bloom's wiki?

>> No.10245384

>>10245201
Yeah, this was ridiculously cringy. Like, save the musing for person-to-person conversations. From the looks of it, you're not gonna be cracking open that fortune cookie anytime soon. The only way you can save yourself now is if you grab her, slap her ass and tell her you wanna play Uni: you be Searle, and she's your grad student. Only way out.

>> No.10245385

>>10245329
blue-box is boring her to death. She is only responding because she previously was interested. This convo mostly killed interest, but she thinks he's still viable for a friend, her "nerdy" friend, a friend she is not willing to personally introduce, but should instead be met by joining a club. blue failed to listen, was abrasive, arrogant, pretentious, but not commanding or confident. She knows blue is a weeb, and asian girls don't like weebs. Looks like she never uses punctuation, so judging by terseness, was mostly responding out of etiquette for most of the conversation. Blue was obviously over-eager and oblivious to the whole thing.

>> No.10245392

>>10245385
this

>> No.10245393

>>10245382
What are you talking about? ppl talk about narrative all the time

>> No.10245401

>>10245382
I haven't read their text but I have much more deeper conversations about anything through text than in person, save maybe with my gf because I find her kinda dull in text and prefer to save those talks for real life.

>> No.10245404

>>10245343
Then there will be no attraction at all. There must be some initial spark, based on physical attractiveness or power-orientated competence, to provide the initial impulse in her to desire you. Did you ever have a girl fall in love with you "over time", or feel indifferent towards you at first only to suddenly become overwhelmed by desire after overhearing you tell your work colleague about the ultimate frisbee tournament you attended last weekend? The initial phase of inter-gender attraction is the most important, and the way you conduct yourself at that stage sets the tone for any relationship you may have. Be too distant and you risk her losing interest or judging you to be oblivious and / or capable of simply "ignoring" your own strong instincts. Be too forward and you are admitting that you are needy, non-repressive (i.e. nigger-tier) and indifferent to high-tension dating rituals that women love. You should assert your attraction by an exchange of glances alone. This tells her you notice her and feel strongly about her, but are too independent, weary (i.e. experienced, mature), aware of etiquette and appreciative of aesthetic ritual to simply ask her to watch Netflix at your place that evening. You must tempt her and maintain the intensity between you. Make her angry with you for not simply grabbing her and taking what you want from her. Make her ashamed of her intense desire for you and physical yearning for you. Make her touch herself at the thought of you, make her want to fuck her dog just to get rid of this burning urge that you have kindled. Make her view any woman you talk to as the potential ruiner of her entire life. And then, when she least expects it, be frank and entirely vulnerable to her; admit your feelings in a calm, analytical way as though you are yourself angry that the feelings she has incited aren't something you can be rid of. Declare your passion for her but remain as composed as possible. And then make sure to retain your composure throughout your relationship, always promising "more", always conducting yourself in a way that leaves her questioning as to whether she can every really comprehend you (even if you're just a goofy dude with excessive self-awareness as his only virtue) and envelop her in a world of romance, aesthetic appreciation and psychological intrigue that will make her groin itch even she sees your initials rubbed into the dirty rear window of an abandoned car.

>>10245354
"Every girl loves a Fascist" - Sylvia "piss on me daddy" Plath

>> No.10245406

>>10245393
oh, so that's what you mean by intellectual circle

>> No.10245408

make sure i'm in the screencap.

>> No.10245413

>>10245404
the worst part is knowing this dude probably fucked my current gf

>> No.10245421

>>10245372
She's talking about her friend because we talked about the philosophy club in person.

Also, how can we have a conversation without lecturing? When you're giving your opinion you're lecturing, she CLEARLY doesn't like to be lectured, so how should this conversation be conducted?

>> No.10245424

>>10245404
So, when Foucault said Deleuze and Guattari sought to expose "the fascism of the everyday," he was just calling them beta cucks?

But in seriousness that horribly formatted text-block has convinced me on the basis that I too have found eye contact and psychological trickery are the most powerful tools in any man's arsenal.

Of course, for the amount of sex I've had, I may as well be a virgin. What does that say about you?

>> No.10245427

>>10245421
example:
"Oh hahaha well Asian philosophy is not just that but you can still read more about it"

instead of telling her that you already know what she should read, maybe you could ask her what you should read?

>> No.10245434

>>10245128
>omniscient
Dawg, that was fucking obvious the whole time.

>> No.10245446

>>10245421
You literally told her why she reads philosophy...

>> No.10245457

>>10245318
t. roastie

>> No.10245463

>>10245413
In fact I'm still a virgin, which is probably the cruel twist of fate that allows me to have gained such a keenly profound and insightful perspective on inter-sex relationships. I have had many girls crush on me (and I mean, these were high-quality, middle-to-upper class, sensitive, shy, just top-tier girls) and I imagine at least one of them has had a wet dream in which I simply have my way with them. Once you have passed a certain point in life, been worn down to a point where your will-to-live is ebbing and close to resignation, there is sometimes an internal transformation so intense, so overwhelming that your entire previous Self is stripped away and trained in such a way that you become a sort of higher entity, viewing humanity not from the warm, coddled environment of superficial care and feigned intrigue of those living in the lowlands, but from a sort of brutal, cold, unforgiving crag upon the mountains looming over the cheery little town. Should I ever grant any woman the pleasure of being penetrated by me, they will have to be of a type (a type I will be able to identify immediately by a momentary meeting of eyes alone) who is obviously yearning for that distinct creature she has always hoped exists, the Hessian Wolf of the steppes, the intellectual fascist, the stern but wise father figure, the libidinal man of high culture, the monster whose appreciation of virtue and beauty exists simultaneously and in parallel to his dark and often violent desires. The man who sees through the artifice erected by society, who acknowledges at all times the merciless of the natural world, the pure man struggling not to corrupt himself entirely if only to spite those who treat corruption as a necessary evil and an object of casual and humorous self-indictment. In short it is not I who has "fucked" your current girlfriend but my dear sir should she and I ever be in close proximity I cannot promise you that upon the meeting of our eyes I will not have stirred something deep within her nature that will cause her to abandon you immediately and kneel instead at the alter that suffering has made of my existence.

>> No.10245464

Don't overly explain things to women.
She's literally saying she only likes seasonings of philosophy on more tangible subjects of life and you're having a purely philosophical talk.

Actually hang out with her and do things, seasoning your point of view on that. You're not getting anywhere right now. And women aren't smart.

>> No.10245472

>>10245463
>In fact I'm still a virgin
Almost burst out laughing.
Stop posting when you clearly haven't even fucked a woman and been in a relationship before.

>> No.10245474
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10245474

>Blocks of texts

>> No.10245488

>>10245201
This is gold. Thank you

>> No.10245493

>>10245463
Wow, so, my extrapolation of your near or actual virginity was actually correct? That's pretty vindicating.

Maybe you should do more drugs. The only time I was able to have sex with a woman, I had to get so fucked up that I can barely remember it.

>> No.10245495

>>10245385
Sounds plausible, but she NEVER uses punctuation (just on lists; First time I texted her was for some extracurricular stuff and she still didn't use commas), so maybe that's it.

Also, I'm not a weeaboo, yet she is, from the stuff she likes in Instagram. And if you talk to her irl you'll see that if you're attacking an opinion she has, she will be brusque, so terseness seems not to be indicating it necessarily.

>>10245404
That's some transcendence level stuff. I'll keep that in mind for the rest of my life, really, thank you.

>>10245446
In hindsight... shiiiiit

>> No.10245496

>>10245434
Not the guy that post was a response to

>> No.10245507
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10245507

OP, she sounds like an arrogant simp. You're better if only because of your humility and your approach to philosophy.

At least I can conceive of you someday feeling shame. That's a foregone impossibility for this blockhead you're chatting with.

Just don't gulp down too many of the blackpills in this thread, and don't feel bad about yourself.

You'll get to where you're going, just don't give up, ok?

>> No.10245514

>>10245463
This is Kino Cringecore. Simply fantastic. Better than "Only one enemy remained..." better than "In this moment, I am euphoric...", better than all the shitty copypastas which roam around this sorry world.

This is the good shit, anon. Keep it up

>> No.10245525

>>10245128
Jesus christ. Here I thought the gray box was a guy playing along.

I had similar conversations with my Korean ex for years except the ideas I talked about were typically horrifying and elitist. She never seemed to mind. I could even make racist jokes to her and she would laugh. Still regret dumping her

>> No.10245531

>>10245463
Saving this for a /lit/ humor thread. Thanks anon. And get some help.

>> No.10245541

>>10245139
She's fucking stupid M8
>>10245145
>simply raising concepts that already exist
>not telling me anything I don't know
>directly saying she knows everything in existence
>YOU SHOULD GO TO PHILOSOPHY CLUB
>TALK TO MY FRIEND
>SHE
She clearly has no interest in you in addition to all that shit, a sad reflection on you for having any in her
>>10245159
At least someone that isn't so self-obsessed and knows that they know nothing

>> No.10245555

>>10245525
>still regret dumping her

She left you and we know it.

>> No.10245562

>>10245555
Quads don't lie

>> No.10245567

>>10245541
Plato didn't mean it as you mean it. "I know nothing" means "I am able to recognize a lack of sense." It hasn't to do with being humble about one's lack of knowledge. That's addressed in other passages ("I do not fancy I know what I do not know").

>> No.10245572

>>10245354
only if you are attractive, muscular, shaved, clean, calm man with a good job in stellar financial situation. If you are not, you could be non-caring

>> No.10245580

>>10245572
*pua fascist as long as you want she stll wont fuck you

>> No.10245649

>>10245463
This is sad.

>> No.10245673

>>10245555
>>10245562
Quads are lying this time. She fucking hated me for a long time after I cut her off. Something wasn't clicking anymore and I got bored of our conversations.

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>>10245463
Well said my spooky friend.
Wink wink.

>> No.10245713

Then how the fuck is OP supposed to fix that? I'm in a similar situation.

>> No.10245738

>>10245713
Supposed to fix what? Cowardly obeisance to potential sexual partners co-mingled with insecure, narcissistic grandiosity? Therapy and interaction with real human beings (not screens) is my recommendation.

>> No.10245839

>>10245738
Ok, my convo is similar to OP's, what should I have done differently then?

>> No.10245849

>>10245839
see >>10245385

>> No.10245865

>>10245080
>her text:your text ratio is 1:10
when will they learn

>> No.10245914

>>10245865
Bruh, I have like, 2 big texts, she has a ton of smaller ones. After the first 2 pictures she pretty much dominates the chat.

>> No.10245982

>>10245295
Unironically this

I quit being a nice guy a long time ago

>> No.10245994

>>10245982
>he didn't read the rest of the thread

It's ironic shitposting my man

>> No.10246062

>>10245865
this

barring the forced "Would you like to exit the game?" question at the end of the OP pic, all of his lines are written to be followed by more of himself, like a book. The content isn't even bad, but it just doesn't look like a conversation.

>>10245201
holy shit, I was pissed off by the fact that you ended a question with a period but the Schopenhauer line fucking got me and it was smooth sailing from there on out

>> No.10246077

>>10245080
I bet you skimmed through that one thread about Chinese philosophy and think you know what you're talking about

>> No.10246885

>>10245567
sorry I didn't use the word fancy you fucking nancy

>> No.10246893

>>10245125
>Unit 731
Is that rapey or mind control? Or some other heinous shit?

>> No.10246907

i'm just thinking what if she finds her way reading this bread

oh no wait she's balls deep into LAO TZU

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10247019

>>10245201
>>10245295
>>10245463
this thread

>> No.10247025
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10247025

>>10245080
Sorry, Your Assigned Slut Must Have Missed Her Interpretation Class.

She Was Supposed to Fuck. Not 'connection between book'. You Argue Over Grow, Not Measure Everything.

How Can Man Measure Ruler, That Man Measure's, To Rule With!

You Are Banned Until You Are Of Age{N=13/M}

>> No.10247038

>>10245201
>Klebold fangirl
fucking kek

>> No.10247048

>>10245295
Lots of unironic thinking this made me think

>> No.10247054

>>10245112
>>10245119
Jesus Christ she's a fucking retard

>> No.10247055

>>10245994
>It's ironic shitposting my man

This. We should all drop the alleged "redpill" /r9k/ worldview and become more like urban left wing male chapo ironyposters by cutting to the chase and raping women.

Taking what you want ghengis style > pua "game"

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>>10245463
Legendary, and poignant; a skillfull synthesis of meaning, irony and wit. Worthy of a screencap

>> No.10247063

>>10245112
Wow this girl is painfully stupid, OP I admire your reserve. It's probably cause she's never been checked in her life, is she hot?

>> No.10247080

>>10245463

10/10 showing all-round.

You just baited circles around these sorry newfags
>>10245472
>>10245493
>>10245514
>>10245531
>>10245649
>>10247019

Every linked anon here deserves a three month ban for being so shit at posting. It won't happen of course but I want you to know that you all deserve it.

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>>10247080
How new are you?
lurk more

>> No.10247121

>>10247112
Not him but what a shit response, I wonder if it's high level irony

>> No.10247127

>>10247121
He's clearly only been here a couple years (or less probably) but accuses others of being "sorry newfags" he's lucky he got a (You) at all

>> No.10247130

>>10245314
gonna use this as a copypasta

>> No.10247144

>>10247127

>He's clearly only been here a couple years (or less probably)
Because I'm laughing at you for being that gullible?
>but accuses others of being "sorry newfags"
Yes. Because you're gullible.

He was being purposefully over the top with it and still it worked on you dumb fucks.

>> No.10247153

>>10247144
if you're the one who made this post>>10247080 you're a spastic
>He was purposefully over the top with it
You quoted at least two posts that were aware of this. You've probably only been here a couple years, you notice irony in a post but you're too new to realise that not everyone who doesn't respond explicitly addressing this irony hasn't realised it.
Lurk more.

>> No.10247155

>>10245865
http://www.beliefnet.com/love-family/relationships/9-signs-shes-just-not-that-into-you.aspx
Sign 10: your text ratio is 1:10

>> No.10247167

>>10247153

>You quoted at least two posts that were aware of this.

Now we're hitting semantics as neither of us can say for sure, but that still leaves two thirds of these retards that took
>I cannot promise you that upon the meeting of our eyes I will not have stirred something deep within her nature that will cause her to abandon you immediately and kneel instead at the alter that suffering has made of my existence
at literal face value and responded to it seriously.

>> No.10247172

>>10245354
>Kant
He only believed democracy would be the proper way to run a society. Why do spergs keep "kantposting" if they love fascism?

>> No.10247223

>>10247172
I don't know why they wouldn't embrace Heidegger Kant was a complete faggot

>> No.10247241

Toasting in epic bread

>> No.10247246

>>10245180
> Going back for spiritual connections seems... odd? And when I called it entertainment she kind of took offense to it.
She is simply more perceptive, sensitive than you are. You have this really cold, positive, typical of teenage approach (and it can be seen even from your fav book etc.) while she is more natural in her approach to literature and philosophy. Her approach is less about Spirituality (I see you are on the wrong direction because she used that word) and more about Modern Dialectics.

>> No.10247256

>>10245080
Dude there's too many blue and not enough grey on this conversation. I don't even need to read the texts, this is a language-game you've lost. I don't think you'll have sex with her. However if you manage to, don't hesitate to post the story here, I'm curious

>> No.10247346
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At least OP talks to girls

>> No.10247435

>>10247172
You all really can't read. Original post said girl would be DPing with grad students studying Kant if she wanted lectures on philosophy. Reply said "grad students don't read Kant."

If you can't parse basic 4chan, how can do you make heads or tails of Kant?
you can't because you're a retard

>> No.10247446

>>10246893
Pretty much anything you can come up with.

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>>10245109
I stopped reading here. Kill yourself and take her with you, burn both of your diaries first and delete this thread

>> No.10247488

I wonder who the biggest cretin is: that girl, OP for making this thread, or me for bumping it.
Or perhaps it is you who are reading this, mon semblable, mon frère.

>> No.10247561

>>10247435
Or, mayhaps, I responded to the wrong person, m'fellow!

>> No.10247564

>>10247435
Also, read "An Answer to the Question: What is Enlightenment?" if you think I was lying about the democracy thing.

>> No.10247590

>>10247488
Les doubles de la vérité

>> No.10247599

>>10247564
No one thinks your lying. But if you think having read "What is Enlightenment" makes you know shit from shinola, re: Kant, you're an idiot. Please refrain from posting about Kant until you've at least finished your freshman year General Studies requirement.

>> No.10247656

send her a dick pic and post her replies

>> No.10247681

>>10245131
>>10245139
>>10245145
You're literally arguing over semantics, lmao.

>> No.10247691

>>10245090
>I am Asian xD

REEE stop fucking my women, gweilo!

>> No.10247694

>>10245201
>a brief section of a passing conversation between two elitist /lit/ spergs conflicting because they mean different things by certain words and continue to push their original positions instead of clarifying and reapproaching
>this is how girls and guys actually talk in private
You're a fucking retard.

>> No.10247701

>>10245090
>I'm Asian
Have some standars, lad

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>>10247701

OP here.

I have standards: she is actually quite cute and hot.

Pic related is from her social media: it’s her and one of her professors or something (some guy from her University).

>> No.10248045

>>10248022
>tfw no piano player chinese mommy gf

>> No.10248060

>>10248022
YOU JUST KNOW

>> No.10248073

>>10248022
Oh my no she isn't. I imagined a vapid undergrad who must be hot to pseud so hard. That is not worth it

>> No.10248077

>>10248022
http://www.scpr.org/programs/the-frame/2017/05/26/57052/piano-virtuoso-yuja-wang-does-more-than-tickle-the/

>> No.10248078

>>10248022
>cute and hot
>a FUCKING FrIDGE

>> No.10248081

MODS DELETE THIS THREAD ALREADY

>> No.10248083

>>10248077
Fucking knew that was her. OP you could have picked a better pic of her

>> No.10248087

>>10248022
that's more than "some guy", dude.
See >>10248060

>> No.10248097

>>10248022
She isn't hot man, but it also means you will be able to tap that ass easily.

>> No.10248256

>>10248060
>>10248087
>that's more than "some guy", dude.

No way she would fuck that old and ugly professor (who, by the way, is married). You guys just want to make me give up on her. I considered as a good point in character when a girl finds her studies so important that she is proud even to post pictures of her teachers online – instead of pictures with boy bands or TV personalities or party pictures, etc - as a badge of honor and achievement.

>> No.10248278

>>10248256

But OP, I thought you said it "wasn't about smashing".

>> No.10248319

>>10245295
Enjoy the endless fucksock bimbos you'll attract with this mindset.

There is a second option: being who you want to be, not what you need to be in order to please women.

>> No.10248343

>>10245080
You remind me of this autist I saw embarrassing himself on (2^3)chan once.

>> No.10248502
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Are we really going to make /lit/ threads out of text screenshots, people?

>> No.10248511

>>10248077
OP is a lying sack of shit that posted screenshots of him texting his mom.