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10203566 No.10203566 [Reply] [Original]

Books that will convince me there is no self

>> No.10203607

>>10203566
Think it through, dickbag, it's not particularly hard to process it.

>> No.10203632

>>10203566
Hume, Treatise on Human Nature

>> No.10203634

Read this article it should be available on Google Scholar:
>Humans as superorganisms: How microbes, viruses, imprinted genes, and other selfish entities shape our behavior
You can look for related papers too.

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>> No.10203645

Listened thru Homo Deus recently, had some good arguments/facts against the liberal/humanist foundations.

>> No.10203883

>>10203566
Convince who?

>> No.10203908

>>10203632
is the first book of it worth reading? seems like its just a bunch of bs on geography etc

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>>10203883

>> No.10203915

>>10203566
You don't need a book
First ask what is a self

Reply to me what your ansswer is and i will deconstruct it.

Spoiler: you own nothing. there is no intrinsic self. and thats a good thing

>> No.10203932

>>10203915
But there are no good things either

>> No.10203951

>>10203932
There are wholesome and unwholesome things

>> No.10203955

Isnt there a tradition in bhuddism that tries to do exactly that?

>> No.10203958
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Pic related

>> No.10203960

>>10203915
Well, self in the traditional meaning is the recipient of data found in the outside world, the active agent in charge of descision making.

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10204009

Eckhart Tolle: Through the Open Door. The ego is a thought form often mistaken for the self.

>> No.10204013

>>10203960
I guess this is the practical way of a self. But even then, is the intrinsic self found in these the receptors and sensors that allow the recipient to receive data? What about the energy that powers the sensors? Is that the self?

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>ctrl+f
>"metzinger"
>zero results
Embarrassing...

>>10203566
the introduction to pic related is enough to convince you

>> No.10204160

>>10203915
If there is no self, how is there good or bad?

>> No.10204243

>>10203566
Alan Watts on YouTube

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10204308

Wouldn't the juridical responsibility be enough to prove that You do exist in a meaningful, real-life way? You have responsibility, for the actions you take, in the eyes of others.

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>>10203566
BEST BOOK ON THE SUBJECT.

>> No.10204341

The Phenomenology of Spirit

>> No.10204353

>>10204160
It's a good thing because ultimately you wouldn't have all of these problems associated with the self

>> No.10205280

>>10203915
>Reply to me what your ansswer is and i will deconstruct it.
Petty word games. That you can deconstruct a particular definition of a concept does not mean that the concept has no validity, only that the definition given of it is not valid, which is to be expected when dealing with a concept as indefinable as the "self". The self is one of those concepts so fundamental to our very minds (examples: "true", "real", "knowledge", "being") that it's as impossible for us to give a proper definition of them as it is for us to not understand what they are.

>> No.10206581

>>10203915
My soul :^)

>> No.10206591

>>10203607
This

>> No.10206601

>>10203566
The Waves by Woolf if you're looking for something more /lit/ than philosophical.
God-tier book either way.

>> No.10206604

You mean ego. Atman exists

>> No.10206608

>>10203566
Just imagine if instead of saying "me" or "he" or "she" you referred to each of the emotions and thought loops you come across, either in yourself or in others, by their own name. Now you know what spirits are and why the "Self" is a construct, albeit an important one.

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>>10206601
Oh, but there is your face. I catch your eye. I, who had been thinking myself so vast, a temple, a church, a whole universe, unconfined and capable of being everywhere on the verge of things and here too, am now nothing but what you see—an elderly man, rather heavy, grey above the ears, who (I see myself in the glass) leans one elbow on the table, and holds in his left hand a glass of old brandy. That is the blow you have dealt me. I have walked bang into the pillar-box. I reel from side to side. I put my hands on my head. My hat is off—I have dropped my stick. I have made an awful ass of myself and am justly laughed at by any passer-by.

>> No.10206913

>>10206815
What TV series is that GIF from? This has bothered me since childhood. In the introduction this frog falls off a chair. It was on PBS.