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What should i read before Socrates? And which is the best book on the pre-Socratic thinkers?

I got the Iliad and Odyssey in a easy to read danish edition - (and has read them), Loeb's "Hesiod the homeric hymns and homerica" -
(reading) and H. W. Parke's "Greek Oracles" -(glanced at the front cover).

Should i buy Edith Hamilton's Greek Mythology or is it just as good as any other book on the topic and a meme? What about "The Pythagorean Sourcebook and Library" have anybody read it and are able to commentary? Please recommend a great book on the Pre-Socratics please.

>> No.10159887

"fuck jews"
-socrates

>> No.10159960

>>10159887
Great post anon.

>> No.10160010

>>10159884
-You don't read socrates
-You don't really need to read the presocratics to get his main dialogues

>> No.10160022

>>10159884

Socrates didn't write, you fuck. Do you mean Plato?

>> No.10160125

>>10160010
>>10160022
>You don't read socrates
You still read what Socrates says - you don't read Dalai Lama either, most of his books are written by other people writing down his teachings, still we say that you read a book by him - but even if it wasn't correct you would still understand what OP meant.

>> No.10160134

>>10160010
>You don't really need to read the presocratics to get his main dialogues
Yep, but i'm an Autist so i want to get them covered.

>> No.10160153

>>10160125

I was busting your balls. To be honest, you don't need to read the pre-Socratics.

>> No.10160155

>>10160134
Good, I hear good things about "the first philosophers", Bertrand Russel get's hate but I prefer him infinitely more than Anthony Kenny, also there are some compiled lecture notes from Nietzsche's lectures in pre-socratics, that is pretty interesting but not the best source. The most important are probably, Heraclitus, Parmenides and Anaximander

>> No.10160265

What about Edith Hamilton's Greek Mythology?

>> No.10160442

I think Kirk's book or Guthrie's book on the presocratics are the best there is, a friend told me Guthrie's is better though.

>> No.10160509

>>10159884
You mean Plato right? I'd just start there, as he was pretty much the first that actually has shit that came down to us.

>> No.10160811

>>10159884
De pre-Sokratiske værker er alle fragmenterede, så der er ikke meget at komme efter – en del af dem kommer faktisk fra Platon's værker selv.

Platon er rimelig indbydende for nybegyndere da han formår at artikulere tunger sager med et simpelt sprog. Han er desuden systematisk nok til at stå på egne ben, uden behov for læseren til at ty til nogle af hans forgængers værker.

Homer var et solidt valg, siden Platon ofte anser ham som en guddommelig autoritet.

>> No.10161663

>>10160811
Fedt, tak.

>> No.10162330

>>10160265
This

>> No.10162337

>>10159884
Parmenides yo

>> No.10162934

What do i need to know about the history of Greece itself?

>> No.10162956

So these two are what i should be going for with the Pre Socratics?

???
https://www.saxo.com/dk/the-presocratic-philosophers_gs-kirk_paperback_9780521274555

https://www.saxo.com/dk/the-pre-platonic-philosophers_friedrich-wilhelm-nietzsche_paperback_9780252074035