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WHY AM I NOT SURPRISED? THIS IS THE UNITED STATES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT

>>1014153

Poor people only use libraries to borrow DVDs, look at porn and use as a free babysitter.

Why the fuck did they elect Chris Christie? I live near Philly and all I hear about on the news is what a shitty governor Christie is. Cutting funding for schools and libraries, what the fuck. Herp derp, can't raise taxes 1% on the rich to fix NJ's problems, let's just fuck over poor people.

>>1014173
Because the people in your country have been tricked into believing raising taxes is a bad thing, after all, you too might live the american dream, keep your hopes up and vote as if you're already a millionaire.

>>1014162
This.

Libraries "rent" out more DVDs than Netflix, Redbox, or Blockbuster.

>>1014173
Did those people you were talking to happen to be the New Jersey state employees who live in Pennsylvania to avoid the higher taxes? But that's besides the point. The state budget is out of control, and you have to cut funding somewhere. Everyone wants to keep the part of the budget they cherish untouched, but that kind of attitude would lead to a fiscal nightmare.

The state already has insanely high taxes, any more and you just lengthen the economic stagnation and flight of jobs out of state.

>>1014173

This is because the Philly Enquirer is a liberal rag that is peeved that Christie is the first effective gov NJ has had in decades, and he isn't a liberal.

BOO HOO.

>>1014181
Because it's impossible to have a disagreement in policy. Clearly, you have to be TRICKED in order to go off of the "right" path of socialist utopia.

>>1014185
>>1014185
>The state budget is out of control, and you have to cut funding somewhere. Everyone wants to keep the part of the budget they cherish untouched, but that kind of attitude would lead to a fiscal nightmare.

The state already has insanely high taxes, any more and you just lengthen the economic stagnation and flight of jobs out of state.

Typical neo-liberal rhetoric. Guess what? I live in europe, taxes are insanely higher here and yet the standard of living is so much better. Something about your argument is wrong.

>>1014181

NJ already has one of the highest rates of tax flight in the nation. It only does as well as it does because it is next to New York. You decide to kill off what's left of the tax base by increasing the already disproportionate burden and uh, guess what will happen?

NJ is full of waste, corruption and insane policy. Somehow, it seems like fixing those might be a better route to financial solvency than destroying the tax base. But good try, Eurofag.

>>1014194
There's disagreement based on well informed opinion and there's being tricked. In america people are being tricked.

Poor America.

>>1014204

>>1014199
What country do you live in? I know Americans in general refer to "Europe" as a collective with no attention paid to their individual parts, but I'm interested.

I also understand that policies between European countries differ.

If you live in France, for example, I can hold over your head the fact that the average poor person in the U.S lives in a larger house than the average non-poor Frenchman.

I lold at the people defending this. You really are a bunch of sad, indoctrinated patriots.

>>1014209
Those averages mean shit. Basically because they are averages, median would say a lot more. And even then, size of a house means shit when half your country can't afford healthcare.

Also I live in Belgium and pay among the highest taxes in the world.

>>1014209

Just because rats have eaten through your walls doesn't mean your apartment is any bigger

The United States are truly finished.

I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL WE ESTABLISH A BEAUTIFUL ASIA-PACIFIC UNION WHICH WILL RESULT IN AN EVEN LESS DEPENDENCE UPON THE UNITED STATES. NEXT TIME, YOUR FUCK UPS WON'T FUCK EVERYONE ELSE OVER!

WELL, DUE TO BEAUTIFUL GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION AND REGULATION, AUSTRALIA FAIRED OFF ARGUABLY THE BEST FROM YOUR SHITTY GFC.

>>1014215

But Belgium is a non-country

>>1014223
hurr durr

Listen, when you guys grow the dicks to defend yourselves again, or have a truly independent policy (read: just choosing on occasion not to be totally our bitches isn't an independent policy), then we can talk like men.

Until then, this is just boo hoo, my country rides bitch.

>>1014225
I'm sorry but we hardly need to defend ourselves because we don't create our own enemies time and again, unlike america.

keep believing you need more and better military because the bad boys are out to get you, surely nobody is lying to you for profit, you're just all so patriotic.

>>1014173
>>1014181
>>1014199
"In view of what they hear from the experts, the people cannot be blamed for their ignorance and their helpless confusion. If an average housewife struggles with her incomprehensibly shrinking budget and sees a tycoon in a resplendent limousine, she might well think that just one of his diamond cuff links would solve all her problems. She has no way of knowing that if all the personal luxuries of all the tycoons were expropriated, it would not feed her family—and millions of other, similar families—for one week; and that the entire country would starve on the first morning of the week to follow . . . . How would she know it, if all the voices she hears are telling her that we must soak the rich?"

"No one tells her that higher taxes imposed on the rich (and the semi-rich) will not come out of their consumption expenditures, but out of their investment capital (i.e., their savings); that such taxes will mean less investment, i.e., less production, fewer jobs, higher prices for scarcer goods; and that by the time the rich have to lower their standard of living, hers will be gone, along with her savings and her husband’s job—and no power in the world (no economic power) will be able to revive the dead industries (there will be no such power left)."

>>1014225
DEFEND OURSELVES FROM WHAT, YOU STUPID FUCK?

>>1014239

LOL, you guys are like children who don't understand that your parents work to feed you.

>>1014236
>quoting rand

0/10

If anything, the world should arm itself against America, which happens to be the only country EVER to be found guilty of international terrorism by an independent international tribunal.

>>1014246
WAY TO FAIL IN ANSWERING MY VERY SIMPLE QUESTION.

lol New Jersey

Also, lol @ foreigners thinking the rest of America is anything like that shithole.

>>1014255

The Russia/Germany energy/manufacturing axis (Germany is hedging its bets on a post–EU and post–NATO Europe) would eat the rest of you fags for breakfast in the Post–Pax Americana world you guys have wet dreams about.

>>1014264
this is what fox viewers actually believe

>>1014264
NEARLY MADE ME LOL IN REAL LIFE. NEARLY...

>>1014275

I heard your country couldn't afford shift keys, so they just gave you caps lock.

>>1014278
NICE ONE.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR YOUR SUMMER ANON? SINCE YOU'RE PROBABLY IN THE US, WHICH IS THE WORLD'S SUPERPOWER, YOU MUST BE TRAVELLING AROUND THE WORLD. OH WAIT, YOU'RE ON 4CHAN.

>>1014278
I hear your country couldn't afford healthcare.

>>1014290

Yeah, shit you pay for for having the highest standards of surgical care in the world.

I'M FROM AUSTRALIA. YOU DO KNOW THAT, RIGHT?

WE DO HAVE PUBLIC HEALTHCARE. IT'S NOT THE BEST IN THE WORLD, BUT IT STILL BEATS AMERICA'S, LOL.

>>1014294
well if even Cuba does, I'm not that surprised that Australia does

>>1014294

Oh, OZ. So they just give you guys caps lock to cut down on the complexity. Don't strain yourself, k?

(Already been to France, Italy, Greece, Turkey and Syria this summer, thx.)

America is a shit hole, anyone who has been there knows this; the things you do to have 1 000 000 nukes.

Libraries in poor neighborhoods are basically free internet cafes for people who haven't read a fucking book in their lives. Nothing of value was lost, etc.

>>1014303

furreal furreal

>>1014300
IS THAT WHAT THE STANDARD OF EDUCATION IN THE US RESULTS IN? NICE!

WELL, I DON'T RECEIVE A CENT FROM MY PARENTS, AND I'VE GOT ENOUGH MONEY TO SPEND 2 MONTHS IN JAPAN, AND WILL PROBABLY VISIT SOUTH KOREA, TAIWAN, AND THEN BALI BEFORE I COME BACK HOME.

IMAGINE TRYING TO SAVE UP THIS MONEY AS A STUDENT WITHOUT A CENT FROM YOUR PARENTS, NOR ANY SCHOLARSHIPS. WOULDN'T HAPPEN, WOULD IT? ;)

>>1014323
BUT HERE, IT'S EASY ENOUGH.

>>1014303

America is a shithole?

And what has your shitty little irrelevant country done for mankind lately?

Get off our fucking message board, faggot.

I LOVE THESE DEBATES /LIT/ :d
AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ARE ALL FRIENDS, UNIFIED BY OUR PASSION FOR READING.

They're fucking over the kids, they still have an interest in learning.

Not like they would keep it though.

>>1014329
>> I LIVE IN THE SHADOW OF MY OWN >>COUNTRY'S PAST, AND USE THAT FOR >>FUFILLIMENT FOR MY OWN PATHETIC LIFE

>>1014337

???

>>1014337
LOL I DID IT WRONG.

FULFILLMENT*

LOL CAMDEN!

Camden is where Philadelphia sends its bums once it gets tired of them. There is nothing of value there. They have no tax base to speak of.

>>1014329

Please, take your idiotic sensibilities to /new/.

>>1014316
When I see people at every street corner covered in scabs begging on their knees for somebody to help them and citizens are too fucking cruel to take 0.0000000000000000000001% of their income to afford them some relief I call that place a shithole, deal with it.

LOOK, ALL THAT MATTERS IS, AS TIME GOES ON, RELIANCE UPON THE US LESSENS. THIS SHALL RESULT IN GROWTH FOR THE VARIOUS INTERNATIONAL MARKETS. ONLY THING I'M WORRIED ABOUT, IS IF THE ASIA-PACIFIC HAS A EU STYLED GETUP, WE'D HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE BILLIONS OF CHINESE WHO COULD TRAVEL AND RESIDE WITH EASE THROUGHOUT THE REGION.

>>1014323

Unless it is what you want to do. My parents never gave me a dime since I was eighteen, and I don't even see them that often anymore. I travel three months out of the year because it's how I choose to spend my life and my money. I work as an independent contractor, so I can choose to do that because my country doesn't fuck me over too bad on taxes compared to most. I mean, I suppose I could be French and get that much vacation time, but I'd also have to spend it like the French do. (Eh, I don't really hate the French. Love Normandy.)

I've had my kicks with this. You remind me of every asshole in a bar abroad who thinks he knows America from one vacation where he went to some tiny part of my huge ass, fucking awesome country, or hasn't even been there at all, just watches our TV, and thinks he actually knows anything about this place. Except, less coherent.

Normally, I wouldn't bother on 4chan, but I sprained my thigh yesterday and am spending the weekend in resting it.

>>1014379
Well we'd leave you americans alone if you'd stick to your own country, but when you fuck up half the world then yeah, we do think we have something to say.

>>1014379

Ladies & Gentleman, our own Whit Stillman character.

>>1014379

You sound like a genuine douche.

Europe and America are both shit, fucking cancer on humanity

>>1014453

And Africa, Asia and South America are...?

>>1014460

fucking AIDS on humanity

>>1014209
Yeah a bigger house that he had to take out a massive loan with the bank to afford that he will probably never be able to pay back. Infact I believe the recession was caused by people doing that.

>>1014460
Not oppressing other people? White people have fucked over everyone else on the planet just because they had some power.

Read that article this morning. Welcome to New Jersey.

Man, fuck this shit. I live twenty minutes from Camden. Shit, I've been to those libraries. But seriously, the people in Camden aren't gonna be using them anyway. It's just sad to know that now any smart kids born in Camden will be indoctrinated into gangs instead of being able to hide away in the libraries.

(inb4 whatever you were thinking)

>>1014544

meet, >>1014162