/lit/ - Literature

>>10135000
Who's Pynchon? Never heard of him.

>>10135000
I don't understand why /lit/ gets so triggered by Pynch

>>10135021
/lit/ has no sense of humour, and thus doesn't appreciate all of his goofs and gags

>>10135021
I just made this thread because I love reading arguments about Pynchon.

But I'd imagine it's because he's difficult to read and most people only pretend to understand what he's going for, when in reality they're unable, 100% of the time, to articulate what they like about him other than "good prose bro"

>>10135000
I'm always on this board BEGGING for one logical, coherent point made in favor of taking Pynchon seriously.

Proud posting pooty proosty doodilydoo
-Cuntboy 6000

>>10135038
Great character, some of the best dialogues you will find, plots are just as good and detailed as the prose which carries it, legit and noticeble love for research, knowledge and connecting the knots between all aspects of reality, reuniting the humanities and the hard science which have broke apart because the level of development in both, playful narrative structure
At least thats what I like about him, and yes, his prose is great, bro

>>10135000
Pynchon is just a representation of something unattainable for me, not status and recognition, those are irrelevant, but a broad view, a perspective, not necessarily fresh, but a perspective nevertheless. I recently finished GR, and I didn't come away with enough to say I enjoy Pynchon overall. I did come away fairly entertained, with new thoughts that come daily in retrospect upon his references, though nothing permanent besides a general appreciation for paranoia and its positive aspects.
In the end, his lack of apparent cohesiveness really restricts me, of course, I associate that with limitations of my own comprehension. I am glad he does not spend too much time catering to my type of person, and that there are those that can truly reap the reward of delving into his work again and again. I look forward to reading more work by him. Definitely Son & Xon.

>>10135038
He conveys the beauty of calculus better than any textbook ever will.

>>10135173
Yeah fucking right

at least he's not as awful as DFW I will say that for him at least.

>>10135372
At least DFW tried to say something

>>10135384
lmao

>>10135401
>Facebook comment tier acronymns

Off you go

>>10135408
>he says while defending facebook, the author
after you my good sir

>>10135418
Doesn't make sense. Sounds funny though. Feel free to provide a single valid justification for calling him "Facebook the author."

Don't get me wrong, I don't like him either. It just annoys me that youre speaking without having any clue whatsoever.

>>10135430
ou got so caught up in your semi ironic dick measuring that you completely missed the point of the moment we almost just had together.

And if you ask me there is something terribly sad and banal about that...

>>10135490
And but so I think your problem is you Capital L Lack the capital B Brains to continue this discourse.

>>10135000
The irony of this post with a Twin Peaks image. Really sublime, well memed

>>10135615
Except that Twin Peaks is a towering work of genius, and Pynchon is a wannabe-beat epic written by a guy who simply owned an encyclopedia.

>>10135659
GR* not pynchon, tho basically synonymous.

>>10135615
Not irony

>>10135095
This reads like a Rick & Morty review.

>>10136532
THe Rick and Morty crowd and the Pynchon crowd are one in the same. Deep down, we know this

>>10135000
CAN'T LYNCH THE PYNCH

posting a Twin Peaks image is an even bigger pseud test and you failed meaning you are a pseud

>>10138097
Its alright if you failed to comprehend the genius of twin peaks. Try again when you're older.

>>10138101
3/10

You aren't fooling anyone

>>10135659
>>10138101
The true essence of the baitthread finally emerges.

>>10138110
O rly? Why didn't you like it?

>>10138094
Kek

>>10138117
I can respect Easerhead but Lynch hasn't done anything creative since. The new twin peaks was a disaster of dumb meaningless symbolism and more filler than an 8ball you buy from the pecan skinned man on the corner of fifth and main. The things he is trying to achieve have been done already much better

>>10138125
I didn't bother with a new season, but I thought one and two were brilliant. The characters were well-written, Cooper especially. The story was solid, all points tying up cleanly and concisely. The acting was phenomenal mostly, except for James and Maddie.

Damn fine show.

>>10138101
>genius of twin peaks
>literally a show about people eating pastry

>>10138131
>pastries are mentioned in four episodes

Real close watchin' there Anon

>>10135015
Diane, it's 7:50 a.m. I had a dream in which an anon tried to be funny. I did not answer him for fear I would burst into flames. When I awoke, it occurred to me that the air conditioner unit had fallen out of the window.

>>10138130
I like twin peaks but the acting is hot fucking garbage.

>>10138094
nice

>>10138097
Posting a post calling someone a pseud is an even bigger pseud test and you failed meaning you are a pseud, pseud

>>10138151
It was the early 90s so I let it slide, man

>>10138151
Every Lynch movie has crappy acting

>>10138157
I am at least genuine in being a pseud

>>10138133
>being a humorless dullard

>>10135000
Pynchon is a mischievous God

>>10138125
retard

>>10138214
>not being funny

sorry, non-American here, I completely adore Pynchon, I have rarely read American literature, because of stupid ignorant Yankee stereotype, and Pynchon was a breakthrough for me, but I have the question: what/who is a pseud?

>>10139113
Why do you adore pynchon? As this post demonstrates, nobody is able to explain why they like him beyond "prose" or vague statements about hurr durr military-industrial complex.

Maybe a nonamerican will be able to climb this apparently insurmountable mountain.

>>10139185
Dude plenty of people can explain why they love Pynch. Google a fucking essay about it, the mans a brilliant writer. Denying these obvious facts makes you seem like a close minded pseud.

>>10138144
10/10

>>10139191
>obvious facts
If that were that obvious....

>>10139212
>I don't get it so everyone else must be lying

>>10139216
Get what? Therein lies my criticism. There's nothing substantial or concrete one can point to, nothing to "get," it's all arbitrary, though his prose is fine

>>10139224
I don't even know what an answer to you would look like. I mean, just read the books.

>>10139224
http://tcl.dukejournals.org/content/62/1/1.full.pdf
http://maxweberstudies.org/kcfinder/upload/files/MWSJournal/1.2pdfs/1.2%20161-177.pdf
http://www.amerlit.com/novels/ANALYSIS%20Pynchon,%20Thomas%20The%20Crying%20of%20Lot%2049%20(1966)%20analysis%20by%20chapter.pdf
https://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:904582/FULLTEXT01.pdf
http://dalspace.library.dal.ca:8080/bitstream/handle/10222/61674/dalrev_vol87_iss2_pp167_188.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

>>10139326
Yukyukyuk

>>10139224
I know you’re just the OP baiting but either way you look like a retard saying this, straight up. Go back to /v/ bud.

>>10139369
Yet another acolyte without a shred of support for the Grand Master Pynch.

>>10135000
Pynchon readers
>Hooray I read big book I smart now hooray

>>10135384
Are you joking? Pynchon has a lot to say about shifts in American culture from the sixties onward.

>>10139518
"I can't understand it / all I see is a big thick book, therefore everyone must be full of shit" syndrome.

>>10139523
>triggered this hard

>>10139326
The po-mo whiz boy, the absolute trickster, there he goes again, cackling...

>>10139523
>all I see is a big thick book
I read that as
>all I see is thick black cock
I need a doctor

>>10135000
I remember being a younger and having this opinion too. Boy was I misguided.

>>10138144
well memed

>>10135000
Bump

>All the negative comments are by pseuds who couldn’t finish the book

Pynched again! XD

>>10139813
>>I finished a big book! Is good because is big! I smart!

>>10139621
Tank

>>10135173
no

did that Pynch?

>>10139908
>I have the right to talk shit about something I didn't even finish! I tried and failed, that's good enough!

>>10135000
Bill Murray here. To clarify . . . my buddy Ruggles's (I had a Damn Fine Cup of Black Coffee with him this morning, believe you me) work is most certainly read by "pseuds," but not written for them. He writes for none but himself, he's always saying "writing is synthesis," etc.

Furthermore–no hard feelings, boys–Ruggles scholars more often than not obfuscate rather obvious points (all but Slade, I like Slade, he perfected M&MIV).

He doesn't read about his own work, except when he does, because sometimes he gets bored and is, after all, Human.

>>10140075
i don't get it

>>10140075
holy fuck.

>>10140110
It can't be

>>10140075

this is NotPynchon aha

>>10140075
DFW FREAKED because of u fag
just die already

>>10140075

Pynchon sounds like he was heavily influenced by Frank Zappa or is just his long lost brother.

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>>10140204
this image is true horror, because he has financial success, clearly, since he can support himself and his habits comfortably and on-brand—but his life is still miserable

>>10140231
it's worth mentioning that he also never did the Kenosha Kid

>>10140264
(You) never did the Kenosha Kid

>>10140075
hi daddy when's the next book out? you mad you duidn't win the Nobel?

>>10140274
I did never did the Kenosha Kid

>>10140287
You? Never did! The Kenosha Kid

>>10140075
>He doesn't read about his own work

He shouldn't, because most critics missed the fucking boat on Against the Day

>>10140311
You — never. Did the Kenosha Kid?

>>10140075
If you write for yourself, than why did you publish your writing? For the money?

>>10140075
Father? Is that you??

>>10140231
it's not true horror once you realize it's not all about financial success, but it's also not true bliss. It's alright.

>>10140342
Comfiest tome of all time

>>10140466
Part of the ego trip of writing for yourself is getting to see your books published

>>10140190
Yes it is buckaroo. I guarantee it!

>>10140075
Screencapped this. Gonna sell it for a lot of money one day.

If this really is you, thanks for all the wonderful rides. Love your work. You books changed my life. Not Vineland, though.

>>10140075
have u studied husserl, perchance?

The goofs and gags are pretty good

>>10140075
daddy please get your teeth fixed its embarrassing to like your writing

>>10135000
Goofs and gags aren't for every one my man

>>10139403
>projecting this hard

good lord... it's not like they're forcing you to watch them read it.

It's always a gag and nearly a nautical goof, sheen in salt by surf from here in my island-bound vessel, Wi-Fi within, to sit bellow while Jack guffaws in blue light over your stupid fucking bullshit, /lit/.

You see, I've always respected the internet--this beautiful being in networks all across the globe, in invisible streams of hertz crossing aloft in ceaseless vectors, giving birth to knew symbols and meanings as it spreads--but pity those who are lured into these dens. Shame. They got you where they want you. I was fooled too. The first of the real sefirot--no bullshit, actual construction--is being made right before your eyes. This is everything and nothing, the vast empty of Keter.

If that old one is still making the head hurt, then the coming age is gonna make your head fry.

>>10141149
William's not here for edits, Pa-Thai. You're slipping some.

>>10140075
This isn't even a good attempt. Ellipses can't mask your shit diction.

>>10141152
Buzz off, New World Kid. Aren't you supposed to be Buzzfeeding honey to YellowBlueBuzzBird The Bee?

Mom sez her Caesarean scar's acting some fuss. Go rub cream on it. 80%Yours/20%Mine.

>>10141158
Fault lies in fault lines, dad.

Ride the wave.

>>10138130
>I didn't bother with a new season
u wot m8? It was outstanding.

>>10141153
this
new kids weak

>>10135384
it's just words to me

>>10139224
kill yourself you fucking retard. do your own research, mong

>>10141153
How's his diction shit?

I want to believe.

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>>10141030
samefag

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>>10139595
boy you sure showed him

>>10140075
It's a good attempt.

>>10135000
>The girl on the sidewalk twitched. "It doesn't have any beat." It was a song of the Great Depression. They were singing it in the year 1932, the year Profane was born. He didn't know where he'd heard it. If it had a beat it was the beat of beans thumping into an old bucket, someplace down in Jersey. Some WPA pick against the pavement, some bum-laden freight car on a downgrade hitting the gaps between the rails every thirty-nine feet. She'd been born in 1942. Wars don't have any beat. They're all noise.

>>10141668
GReat point

>>10141968
all me btw.

>>10139113
>I completely adore Pynchon
>what/who is a pseud?
You are a prime example of a pseud.

>>10139185
yeah because his prose is fucking godly

>>10139191
>Dude plenty of people can explain why they love Pynch.
>Google a fucking essay about it
lmao SO plenty of people can explain why thy love him, but you can't and are just parroting the opinions of others?

Pynchon readers, ladies and gentlemen

>>10142434
This

>>10142434
Shut up you lazy faggot I’m not going to spoonfeed you. Your criticisms are shallow and not worth legitimate response from anyone, that’s why you’re getting memed.

>>10138192
I always thought the acting was really great for an even more unnerving tone than the setting or music could accomplish...

>>10135000
t. intimidated by both sincerity and absurdity

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>>10138192
naomi watts was excellent in Mulholland Dr

>>10135000
Bump, for history

>>10144274
does this guy have recorded lectures online or something?

>>10142149
Sucks but also doesn't at the same time.

>>10140407
You never... did the Kenosha Kid?

>>10140075
i hope to god that this and the replies were perpetuated by some /x/ fag LARPer and aren't genuine people falling for this

>>10139326
>http://maxweberstudies.org/kcfinder/upload/files/MWSJournal/1.2pdfs/1.2%20161-177.pdf

I read the abstract, and I was skeptical, but then I read the first sentence and dropped it like a hot medium-soft turd.

>>10145446
Pynchon shitposting is the litmus test for pseuds

>>10140075
God bless you sir
write Gravity's Rainbow 2 in which Slothrop's distillated consciousness remanifests in the 80s as Donald Vibe, and follow Vibe's jourey to become president in 2015. Then climax the book when /ourrocketman/ goes up against NK's rocket man

>>10145864
What are party animal ol' Tommy was, back in the 50's!

>>10135000
I'm a pseud for enjoying Pynchon? Sheeit. I guess I'll stop reading books now so I can be a real.