/lit/ - Literature

first for dead general

>>10042802
Hmmmmmmmmmmm

>>10042913
We must go further.

I didn't know Jimmy B. had a magazine.

Could someone suggest me some heroic low fantasy (not that much magic and weird races, that sort of thing) books to get started with the genre. Thanks.

I'm writing a fantasy themed litRPG. What do you guys think about the genre?

>>10042998
humanity would be better off without it

>>10043012

Think of it like sports stories, but the sports kids play these days are video games.

>>10042802
I'm just out of bed and my eyes are hurting a little. I was scrolling reasonably fast through /lit/ and when I saw "Avon Fantasy" in that picture I thought it said "Anthony Fantano" in a really stylized font.

>>10042976
David Gemmell is the king of heroic fantasy. I suggest his Drenai series and Rigante series.

>>10042802
>What covers do you like?

>>10042998
I told you perverted freaks to stop touching my fucking daughter. If I catch you near my daughter again, God so help me, I will cut you.

>>10043798
What does this meme mean?

>>10043805
What does it look like?
Stop trying to steal intellectual property from us.

What constitutes "good" action scenes in your experience?
Which authors/books do it best and why?
Are there any literary equivalents to Kung fu movies?
Is there even such a thing as an "action book", like there are action movies? Or is it effectively impossible to extend that long in text without getting boring?

sexy young beardless dick

>>10043964
Reading action scenes blow by blow gets very tiring. Most women skip fighting scenes altogether and only want to know who survives.

>>10043964
>Which authors/books do it best and why?
For pure emotional impact REH is the best ever. Reading his action scenes really feels like he was right there watching it happen first hand and writing it all down as it transpired.

>>10043964
>look ma, i posted it again

Does fanfiction fit into /sff/?

>>10042802
Any of you ever read Richard Sharpe Shaver? He was a real weirdo, wrote these stories about rapey gremlin men called Deros living in secret underground. Only he thought it was all real - he got hired by Amazing Fantasy in the first place off the back of crank letters he wrote to them about his "experiences" in their territory. Kind of like Lovecraft, only less varied.

https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/the-shaver-mystery-the-most-sensational-true-story-ever-told

>>10044226
Watts published The Thing fanfiction, so sure.

>>10044226
Sometimes

>>10044227
So he was the abducted by lizard men instead of greys? And he lived to tell about it?

Thinking about reading Ancillary Justice, yes/no/maybe?

>>10044293
I dont know

>>10044293
first book is good, the rest is crap

>>10044314
Fuck. Does it work standalone?

Where should I start with Guy Gavriel Kay? As I understand it there's two major series, the Fionavar books which are like runoff from working on the Silmarillion, and the "historical" fictions like Lion of Al-Rassan, Last Light of the Sun etc. Is Fionavar worth reading at all? And is there any order in which I should read the "historical" ones?

Unrelatedly, has anyone read the Mythago Wood books? They were recommended to me by comparison to Diana Wynne Jones's Hexwood, which I liked as a teen but am not sure I would like now.

>>10043964
kassad's chapter in hyperion

>>10044314
>the rest is crap
Why is it crap?

>>10044293
Agree with the other anon. First book great, the rest is crap and too narrow in plot compared to the first (moreover the first is somewhat self contained)

>>10044343
>Where should I start with Guy Gavriel Kay?
Start with Tigana. It was the first book of his I read and I loved it.

>Unrelatedly, has anyone read the Mythago Wood books?
See >>10036934 It's a meme.

>>10043964
There's a lot of sword fights and choreography in Fritz Leiber's Fafhrd and Gray Mouser books. I heard the author was a keen fencer. These are mostly short stories - any longform fiction with exhaustively described fights would be boring. For the wider readership, emotions, reactions and motivations of characters is far more interesting than the angle of a sword thrust, or manner of parrying, or footwork. If this isn't true in your case then you may be genuinely autistic or have the wrong idea about reading.

>>10044428
It doesn't have to be exhaustively described or go into minutia, but I was wondering if anyone had just extended an action scene for a whole book, with there never being a static scene where people are just talking, or a narrative exposition scene, like a movie that's a solid 1.5 hours car chase. Like Crank in book form, there's a plot, and characters, but it never stops or slows down.

>>10044450
Something like that will exist but I think it would be terrible. A book can have a fast pace and lots of dramatic events, twists and diversions, however - isn't this the way of modern books? I wouldn't know because I barely read anything from the 21st century. But even those, I think, would need to have slower parts for to tie things together. It seems like a bad idea to be breakneck in any novel length work.

I think guns and tanks are cool. Is this sufficient reason to read military science fiction or would I need an interest in duty, patriotism and the chain of command to keep me hooked? I really don't know what to expect from this genre.

>>10044365
Seconding this, his story was one of the best of the pilgrims in my opinion.

Also I always thought Shadow Over Innsmouth had some great action scenes

>>10044627
Probably depends on the book. I imagine some will hook you with the characters and action, and others will require you to be interested in strategy and moved by patriotism and so on.

New purchase lads.

Anyone read it? Is it any good?

>>10045193
Yeah, I got a kick out of it.

>>10045193
Going by only the cover, I'd say anyone that's not a Warcraft fan should stay the fuck away from that.

>>10045207
>2017
>Judging Fantasy books on their cover

What is wrong with you?

>>10045193
How old is this? are there multiple books specifically about jaina? cause the one i read like a decade ago was pretty terrible.

Thoughts on the Stormlight archive?

I see it's in the selected section in the OP. Would you recommend any other series on that list instead?

>>10044343
The Lion of Al-Rassan is a kick-ass book, and A Song for Arbonne is great, too. An intriguing mix between fantasy and alternative-reality historical novel. Pretty unique stuff. The Last Light of the Sun was good too, but it has been a really long time since I read it. May need to put it on my reading list again, sigh ...

>>10045249
It's truly great epic fantasy. The 3rd novel drops later this year and I'm very excited. I'm currently reading Steven Erikson's Malazan series... pretty good too.

>>10044627
Try the "Starfist" series by Dan Cragg (he was a genuine high ranking non-com in the USMC) for down-and dirty infantry stuff and the "Honor Harrington" series by David Weber for epic space battles between giant spaceship fleets. And of course the classics like "Armor" by J. Steakley, "Forever War" by Haldeman and "Starship Troopers" by Heinlein. They are all a cut or two above the rest of what you will find in this genre.

>>10045214
There is no genre better for judging by its cover. The vast majority of fantasy is pure garbage, and the covers always let you know you can ignore it

How long will you live?

>>10045214
>not judging books by their covers
I've got a 100% success rate for picking books SOLELY by their covers! I also have a 100% failure rate of reading books I was recommended despite their appearance.
Size, proportions, paper weight, font style and size, the author's name, the relative placements of the title, binding style, and material all contribute to a book's quality. Sight, smell, sound, texture, and even taste determine the merit of a book far more accurately than any purely textual analysis.

For the record, my favourite book is a recent paperback edition of Dune, with a glossy black cover, thin translucent paper with a smooth creamy texture, a solid and loud response to impact, good flexibility and slackness when opened, an earthy yet caustic musk, fine sharp edges and corners, and a bold black serifed font.

Is this a good cover?

>>10045398
>glossy black cover, thin translucent paper with a smooth creamy texture, a solid and loud response to impact, good flexibility and slackness when opened, an earthy yet caustic musk, fine sharp edges and corners, and a bold black serifed font.
I hope the trees for the wood pulp were grown on a SOUTH facing slope, it would be quite shocking otherwise. Faggot.

>>10042802
Are the John Carter books worth a read?

Would any of you be interested to read fanfiction that I wrote? It's practically /sff/ (Avatar fanfiction)
Not having any expectations but I've seen worse things being written and it's a fun exercise.

>>10045511
>Avatar fanfiction)
What type of Avatar? Abatap from tv or airbender from co?

>>10045511
Lay it on me, let he who has not written fanfiction cast the first stone. Believe me, whatever it is, I've read worse and enjoyed it.

>>10045472
I started the first one a couple of years back, but I couldn't make it past the first few pages. Just give them a try, they are in the public domain on gutenberg.org and manybooks.net.

The Name of the Wind or Prince of Thorns?

>>10045521
I never have, but rather than looking down on it I always feel like I'm missing out.

>>10045542
name of the wind

>>10045542
Prince of Thorns is the worst thing I've ever read. Worse than fucked up fanfiction written by filipenos who'd never seen the source material. Worse than Hollywood adaptations of anime. It's the most hackneyed, cliched, pointlessly edgy, mary sue bullshit ever devised by man!

>>10045249
I really like it. Currently reading the chapters being released online on tor.com ahead of the launch of book 3.

>>10045193
I read the first chapter involving Kalecgos. Second chapter starts with Baine. It's not like I wanted to read a story about the character whose name is in the title or anything.

Apparently Jaina is only in about a third of it, according to reviews. Great.

>>10045527
Thanks man

>>10045559
Does /lit/ really hate prince of thornes that much? maybe i should check it out.
what i learned is, that you should do exactly the opposite of what the anons here say
/lit/ said the blade itself is shit too, but it was pretty good

>>10045590
>/lit/ is one person

>>10045602
No, but they all shit on the same authors...

>>10045590
Have fun, we'll talk after you meet the MC's mentors, Fu Manchu and the magical negro slave he freed. Or maybe you'll balk at scaring a ghost to death with pure willpower. Or maybe, just maybe, you'll make it to the totally tactical and genius temper tantrum strategy to prove you're not immature by smashing a sculpture during a meeting to embarrass your father. No, you won't even make it past the first page.

>>10045590
name of the wind is a great book don't cheat yourself anon

>>10045623
name of the wind is ok, but i fuckin want to murder kvothe

>>10045632
if he didn't pine over that uninteresting skank it would be a 9/10 instead 8/10

>>10045632
I like kvothe

>>10045665
it's a shame patrick rothfuss is turning into a massive faggot and won't finish the 3rd book

>>10045675
Gotta save them kids with stupid charities

>>10042802
Flowers for Algernon, y/n?

>>10045613
>but they all shit on the same authors...
No we don't. It's the vocal minority that shit on books. The majority just doesn't care enough to correct them. If you are stupid enough to listen to one or two anons on a thread that has at least 70, instead of doing your own research then you deserve what you got.

>>10045551
>>10045623
I finished Name of the Wind yesterday. Overall I think I liked it, but boy did I have some. The whole thing could have been trimmed by at least 20% and nothing of value would be lost. Far too long for how much Nothing happens over the course of Kvothe's life story. Some characters I found interesting (like Devi), but the majority were either bland, shallow, or both. I could never tell Simmon and Wilem apart, despite them supposedly being Kvothe's best friends. The two are completely interchangeable in any scene they're in. I won't even start with Denna.

It starts off well enough, but the parts that aren't a fun rapid-fire series of Nothings are a real slog. Give it a shot and drop it when you can't be bothered anymore.

>>10045728
Tbh I found the bothing parts super comfy

>don't burn pewter too much or your body will come to rely on it!
>if you use stormlight too much you will become incredibly tired
Why does branderson sanderbun write these side effects if they never come into play?

Books where the hero has a big pebis but his gf has a bigger pebis?

>>10045249
It's average. The world is interesting enough but few of the characters are really good and the whole thing, story and prose, is kinda boring. If you have a couple of days, want to read a long ass series and have nothing better to do go for it I guess.

>>10045398
>taste
>For the record, my favourite book is a recent paperback edition of Dune, with a glossy black cover, thin translucent paper with a smooth creamy texture, a solid and loud response to impact, good flexibility and slackness when opened, an earthy yet caustic musk, fine sharp edges and corners, and a bold black serifed font.
Serious or not, I enjoyed reading this.

>>10045768
It serves as an explanation as to why they aren't used even more. If there was no downside, a lot of plotholes would arise.

>>10045806
But at one point in the first mistborn novel they straight up burn pewder for 17 hpurs straight. Also used semi-constantly for much of the books.
It's also implied that while stormight makes you tired, the vitality improvement far outweighs that, making it a complete non-issue. Kaladin uses stormlight in his most tired moments

>>10045511
sure, why not. as long as it's not the blue people Avatar.

Today I bought Fifth Head of Cerberus and The Knight, very excited.

>>10044227
Don't forget that he's credited with inventing the idea of "mind control rays".

>>10045706
Makes me cry
Captcha: Water Saltillo

>>10045640
>>10045728
if Rothfuss really wanted to shake things up, he would have made Kvothe and Denna explicitly just friends. or maybe they have a really awkward ONS in the second book and Kvothe grows out of it.

they actually have a fairly complex relationship when looked at from another angle, but Kvothe's constant fawning and Denna doing her thing ruins it. plus it frees him up to date literally anyone else, because pretty much the majority of the female cast is a more interesting prospect than Denna.

I want a book series that's the closest thing you can get to Power Rangers/Super Sentai for adults.

Recommendations?

>>10045472
I think Conan is superior in most ways if you want to read something from that era. For ERB I'd actually suggest Tarzan instead, because even though Tarzan was more popular back in the day John Carter ultimately ended up being more influential, to the point that anything interesting about the stories has since been picked clean and become completely cliche. The adventure stories more influenced by Tarzan have kinda died out though, so you're probably not as inured to what makes it great.

>>10046060
Denna isn't really supposed to be interesting though. More like an archetype that embodies the ideals of the lover.

Is it true that there are conservative themes in Gene Wolfe's work?
Also are there any conservative/somewhat right wing fantasy authors that you know of ?

>>10046060
>>10046071
My problem with Denna has very little to do with Denna herself. It's more that so much time of the book is devoted to Kvothe pining after her; going into Imre every day for weeks straight hoping to just catch a glimpse of her, and the eye-rolling dialogue the two exchange each time they happen to meet. I found it beyond tedious and prayed for it to be over.

>>10046092
GW is very Catholic

>>10045249
Literal, unironic communist propaganda. Shitty humor, bad analogies to modern society, and forced complexity.
How anyone likes him is beyond me.

>>10046101
How is it Communist propaganda? Please explain.

>>10046092
Here you go.

>>10046178
Interesting how roght arosside of pic has consistently better authors

>>10046200
*the right side
Sorry.

>>10046145
>a society where super-human wizard warriors are looked down upon and serve as serfs to peasants.
>a society where people had long eschewed war and warfare.
>women read, play music, do math and write plays while men are war mongering brutes.
>light-eyed people (i.e. white people) dominating dark-eyed people (i.e. people of color) and enslaving another race (i.e. aboriginals) whose women fight side by side with their men to defend their homeland against a colonial war of expansion in a display of the bravery and egalitarianism of the noble savage in the face of the technological hubris of the white man.

Yeah it's communist garbage.

>>10045520
>>10045521
>>10045548
>>10045994
/co/ Avatar with the elemental magicks.

Synopsis:
Sages have long debated that it is the uncanny quality of time to conserve fact, and it certainly does so by rendering humanity's past falsehoods true. The day the Avatar died, the World remembered in saying that it wished the Avatar be dead. Then, the World found those lies become truths, and now it weeps in blood.
No Avatar has been reborn since, the elements and spirits remained silent. Fire, air, water, earth. The cycle has been broken.

And here's the link to the first chapter:
https://vulcanoid.deviantart.com/art/Avatar-Warlords-Chapter-1-fanfiction-703077969
There's also a link to my Wattpad on my profile in case people find it more accessible.
Enjoy

>>10045520
>>10045521
>>10045548
>>10045994
/co/ Avatar with the elemental magicks.

Synopsis:
Sages have long debated that it is the uncanny quality of time to conserve fact, and it certainly does so by rendering humanity's past falsehoods true. The day the Avatar died, the World remembered in saying that it wished the Avatar be dead. Then, the World found those lies become truths, and now it weeps in blood.
No Avatar has been reborn since, the elements and spirits remained silent. Fire, air, water, earth. The cycle has been broken.

And here's the link to the first chapter:
https://vulcanoid.deviantart.com/art/Avatar-Warlords-Chapter-1-fanfiction-703077969
There's also a link to my Wattpad on my profile in case people find it more accessible.
Enjoy

>>10046203
You don't know what communism is, nor do you really seem to understand the setting.

>>10046216
Well yeah it's not communism per se but you can see the analogies.
Even the whole dark eyed people turning light eyed by touching the magic sword thingies is a play on the theme of the dynamics of domination as social constructs spawned from exploitative access to the means of power.

It is a hardcore left wing novel anon, you can't deny that.

>>10046178
Wow didn't know jack Vance was pro war.
Where's that from?

>>10046246
>>10046216
Sanderson is pretty left.

Decent writer and great guide to aspiring writers, but undeniably an ideologically invested fella.

>>10046246
>Even the whole dark eyed people turning light eyed by touching the magic sword thingies is a play on the theme of the dynamics of domination as social constructs spawned from exploitative access to the means of power.
I thought it was based on how Mormonism teaches that black people are cursed because their ancestors didn't fight on God's side when Lucifer rebelled, but they can slowly turn white if they join the LDS Church.

I'm not making this shit up.

>>10046246
So call it sjw. Stop conflating it. And yeah, it has classist themes, but they're not really in your face, caste systemss ARE bad. Besides, kaladin climbs the ranks through personal merit that he is uniquely gifted wirh, that's communism. Also brandersondon just can't write another plot. Literally every book he's written is about the dynamics of a privileged and an underprivileged class. It's not political, he's just not very creative

>>10046281
is it all non-white people that are cursed or specifically Africans?

>>10046297
youtube.com/watch?v=Vnaa5MQIH94
Required preliminary viewing before reading sanderson.

>>10046297
Probably specifically Africans.

We get a bad wrap from the Abrahamic faiths.

>>10046318
Then why is 99ish % of africajs catholics or muslims?

>>10046297
>is it all non-white people that are cursed or specifically Africans?

I think it's just Africans. You'll have to keep in mind that only whites we're allowed to join the LDS church until the 1950s came rolling around, and that's because of pressure from the government.

>>10046333
I'm no expert, but from what I've read most African Abrahamism is just a monotheistified version of their local beliefs. I remember hearing there are something like over a 1000 different sects of Christianity in the capital of Ghana alone.

>>10045472
I largely echo >>10046069 about ERB and John Carter. They must have been great for the time, but the problem is John Carter is such a Mary Sue figure, a superhuman, and this removes any sense of peril or conflict, so the story is just a running tally of how great John Carter is and look at all the cool stuff he can do on Mars. Burroughs' dialogue is also completely perfunctory and cliched and the plotting is to a formula. To its credit, the descriptive and exotic detail of the Martian landscape, animals, and its different alien races is still very imaginative, and it's written in a breakneck pace.

The likes of C.L. Moore and Leigh Brackett and Robert Howard would grow up reading Burroughs and write Martian and fantasy stories in the 30s/40s that hold up much better.

Saying all this, Burroughs still interests me enough to want to read his hollow earth series eventually - his imagination, like Hodgson's, goes a long way towards his redemption, only Burroughs can be read without a furrowed brow.

>>10046318
>>10046336
that wouldn't make any sense though. are the other non-white races okay then? do they slowly turn white too if they convert to Mormonism? are they just fucked? what about a Mormon Arab or a Mormon Indian, or etc?

I mean, I guess Mormonism doesn't make that much sense by itself, but that alone just raises so many fucking questions.

>>10046372
The overall point we can gather is that early America was retardedly racist.

>>10046379
>retardedly racist
more sensible I would argue

>>10046210
Get yourself an AO3 account, deviantart is not the place to put fanfiction and most people would rather download an epub than read all the sentences and paragraphs packaged together. My immediate first thought is that you shouldn't begin with four words because it makes you look amateur. Read more (good) fanfiction or download and read more short story anthologies similar to what you are writing.

Try to ease back on the stuttering and put a bit more meat on your sentences.

>>10043877
>stop soliciting opinions about literature

>>10042998
LitRPG as in dungeon crawl or litRPG as in levelups and SAO interfaces?

>>10044450
I'd look into thrillers for that sort of thing, I think Dean Koontz has done it.

>>10043964
>What constitutes "good" action scenes in your experience?

R.E. Howard. His action scenes only last two paragraphs at most but thats all you need.

So satisfying.

>>10046448
not person you replied to but if I decided to pick up some of his books which would you recommend?

>>10046318
>WE

>>10046448
>>10046479
I was just about to ask more or less the same thing. I'm on the Conan wiki page and there are dozens of editions and collections for everything. Where is the best place to start?

>>10046498
>trying to mask your jealousy of my superior ancestry with regurgitated satire.

Be gone, white devil.

about to start the wheel of time. Is it true i can skip some books because theyre full of retarded filler and court bullshit? also, is it good?

>>10046505
>WUZ

>>10046509
It starts off very satisfying, then gets very dull, then ends very satisfying. One book is 800+ pages and takes place over 3 days.

>>10046505
yes massa

I'm realizing over a year too late I have no idea how to write a character going on a science binge.

>>10046379
>early

>>10046537
A science binge? I guess they'd probably spend hours sitting watching the output of a mass spectrometer or something. I'm not sure what a science binge means.

>>10046479
>>10046501

Look at the charts in the OP. They're actually pretty useful for REH. Pick up the anthology in the general fantasy chart and read everything in it. There are surprisingly few bad Conan stories.

>>10046210
never thought I'd review Avatar fanfiction again, but what the hell?

my initial thoughts on the first chapter:
>awkward, stilted dialogue
>too many dialogue tags, just about every time someone speaks there's a dialogue tag. learn how to use beats to vary it up.
>concept is boring, come up with something better than "Avatar but with no Avatar and edgier"
>use pronouns more and recognize when to add pronouns to avoid confusion
>stop using "blood-bending empowered". it's not only awkward phrased, but lazy and a gross instance of telling us what happened instead of showing.
>adverbs sucking the life out of your sentences (you should almost never use 'suddenly' or anything close to it)

the writing needs work in general. especially in the fight scene, there are sentences that are very cumbersome and could be better phrased. it's also very short. for the kind of first chapter you're going for, I'd want to write enough to get a good impression of the general situation, and to get a pretty good outline of the characters. the chapter wraps up too quickly to give me an impression of anything, or to give me a reason to continue reading, and the tacked on cliffhanger doesn't help either.

>>10046567
also, do like the other anon said, and post it on a site that's actually meant for fanfiction.

>>10046547
Basically, science-realated manic or hypomanic states. The mad scientist equivalent of breaking out the yarn, thumb tacks and unsolicited polaroid photographs.

The general symptoms of a science binge are:
>extremely energetic despite being severely sleep deprived
>either can't stop very talking about something completely that sounds insane or confusing, or completely oblivious to the people around them unless they're capable of being servants
>extremely poor personal hygiene relative to their usual state
>all of following must be the result of trying to solve or understand something STEMS related

Agatha up there is a classic example, but I'm not doing well at replicating her "madness place", possibly because the scene structure doesn't lend itself to the same scenario

>>10046567
>never thought I'd review Avatar fanfiction again

Out of curiosity, how many have you reviewed?

>>10044310
Can you repeat the question

>>10046594
So what exactly are you having trouble with? You seem to get it, or at least recognize the signs. Are you having trouble "getting into it", or is it that you're having trouble fitting it into the story? If it's the latter, you're probably going to have to rework that section and break some room free.
Or is it something else?

Okay, I finally ran out of Mieville. Who's similar? Vandermeer?

>>10046178
wtf I love Robert Heinlein now!?

>>10046611
you're not the boss of me now
you're not the boss of me now
you're not the boss of me now

>>10046585
Why would you post this? It's not even the clean image.

>>10046610
i don't remember, I haven't been on ff.net in a few years now. i don't think it was giant amount, but I would definitely write one every once in a while.

>>10046092
Gene is one of those rare artists who is both conservative and avant garde at the same time.

>>10046627
I guess the issue is just fitting it in. I know at least two places that looks like a perfect opportunity, but it's not easy to fit them in organically

is Sanderson considered a heretic by the LDS for writing about fantasy and magic?

>>10046717
They've condemned him to the fate of only receiving a small moon upon his death instead of a full sized planet.

>>10046479
>>10046501

There is no order to the Conan stories. The stories jump from one part of his life to another. They're stories where he is King of Aquilonia or others set in his wandering days where he could be anythng as disparate as a thief, a pirate or a mercenary.

These stories would be good introductions to the world of Conan:

Scarlet Citadel, People of the Black Circle and Red Nails.

The best place to read Conan is the Del Rey editions since they contain Howards unaltered original text. If you live in the UK, the Gollancz Masterworks or Complete Conan is good (censored and other textual problems).

I would also recommend the stories 'Red Shadows' and 'Worms of the Earth'.

Give me your top five Asimov short stories NOW.

>>10046065
Night Angel Trilogy. Although the black ranger kills people with his power suit from space, instead of saving them.

i read latro in the mist and solder of sidon, and i'm looking for more fantasy set in ancient greece or rome or egypt. anything i should check out?

>>10046753
Kickass. Thanks!

>>10046727
shit they get a whole planet when they die?

>>10046753
>black ranger kills people
sounds realistic

>>10046780
I get that you're going for a racism thing but in over half the Power Rangers series, the black ranger isn't even a black person.

>>10046479
>>10046729

Collecting Howard books can be expensive. Thats why its best to read some of his work and see if you are interested. His work is public domain in many areas and you can read them online.

>>10046729
Thanks a bunch m8.

>>10046717
Farthest from, he teaches Sunday School and has a class at BYU.

>>10042802
I thought these books were bretty gud. Am I a plebeian now?

>>10046840
We're all plebs here. Just don't step out of line or you'll get exiled to outer /lit/.

>>10046840

>>10046879
Lighteyed scum.
book 3 when

>>10046884
November 14 friend

>>10046178
Only one that really surprised me was Marion Zimmer Bradley.

>>10046643
Vandermeer is probably the closest, yeah. I've maintained that John C. Wright is the right-wing counterpart to Mieville, but it really depends on what you liked about Mieville's writing.

I got this in the mail a couple days ago but haven't had time to start it. Any other anons follow this series?
>inb4 YA
Johnathan Stroud is totally worth it. Fun characters and nice worldbuilding. Check out Bartimaeus if you haven't yet.

Can anyone recommend books where the main character fucks other species? The less human like they are the better. I want weird shit like dudes fucking dragons.

>>10045615
>No, you won't even make it past the first page.

not him, but I read a full five pages of the amazon preview because I was amazed that such a thing was actually published and it was filled with delightfully cringy lines. Almost tempted to read it as a comedy desu

>>10046957
I looked her up, apparently both she and her husband were serial child molesters.

>>10046986
>John C. Wright is the right-wing counterpart to Mieville

This piques my interest, but sweet merciful Jesus this is literally his wikipedia portrait

>>10047085
Can't think of any books off the top of my head, but try the Prophet comics from Image, it comes up a couple times. They're scifi though.

>>10047152

oh, he's a former atheist, that explains where he picked up the habit

>>10046769

I haven't read them (or anything by the author) so I can't speak to quality, but Lion of Macedon and Dark Prince by David Gemmell are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head. The premise at least looks promising, and they're on my to-read list.

>>10047123
That's what I thought, but it takes itself too seriously. I couldn't handle it and had to bail when we got to lobsterman fortress.

>>10047085
In Book of the New Sun, Severian fucks a horrific shape shifting bug monster/angel.

>>10047194
>lobsterman fortress
Everything in this series sounds lame, everything but this.

>>10047152
He's a blowhard and obnoxiously Catholic but he's probably the only fantasy writer that's anywhere near big-time that actually engages with fantasy and pulp classics. Can't compare him with Mieville, all I've read from him was Embassytown and it was more Hamilton/Banks-style SF, but I enjoy Wright a lot, fedora notwithstanding.

His best work in my opinion is his Night Lands collection, and maybe the Star Wars short story he wrote for his RPG character.
http://www.scifiwright.com/2014/04/do-i-role-play-ask-rather-do-ever-i-stop-part-three-edge-of-the-empire/

>>10047274
>He's a blowhard and obnoxiously Catholic

He's less forceful with his beliefs than the people who complain about him. Though it's funny how much a man in a fedora can trigger fedora fags.

>>10047310
I'm religious myself but all of his later work has to drop in references to how great Catholicism is where it isn't really needed. Religion gets such a bad treatment in most SF it was shocking to feel myself alienated by it.

How would you rate garret's book "The Burgeoning of Sinful Grimm"?

I find Gene Wolfe gimmicky and overrated. Am I a pleb?

>>10047085
look for some old Philip Jose Farmer

>>10047315
I honestly don't begrudge him for that, considering how villified Catholicism is in general. I wish more religious authors would punch back.

>>10047334
Not at all. I'm curious though, what do you not like about his writing?

did that jezebel guy finally wack off? why isn't he triggered by that cover?

>>10046741
>Give me your top five Asimov short stories NOW.
Nightfall is pretty good. But take your pick:

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:A1F26C960BCA76585F4BC4039EF127A2DE0A0065&dn=Asimov%2c%20Isaac&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.opentrackr.org%3a1337%2fannounce

>>10047361
He seems more concerned with crafting a puzzle than telling a story. He's clever, I'll give him that, but sometimes he's clever to the point of his characters and stories suffering for it.

I don't know if you can really compare them, but I consider Wolfe a lesser version of R.A. Lafferty.

>>10047344
Oh yeah, I don't mind that he does, and I'm sure Catholics really like it. It's just distracting to be reading a story where a time traveler visits the Nativity and the author steps out to describe how old Joseph is.

>>10046741
C-Chute
It's Such A Beautiful Day
In A Good Cause
Strikebreaker
Franchise

>>10047380
>It's just distracting to be reading a story where a time traveler visits the Nativity and the author steps out to describe how old Joseph is.

Wouldn't that be something a time traveller would notice? If you went back in time to see some signifigant event, you'd take note of everything.

>>10047398
That doesn't make it less distracting. If I were a Hindu I probably wouldn't notice, but as a Christian who is not hung up on Mary's later sex life it moved me from a time travel to the Nativity to a time travel to a Catholic Nativity.

Nobody's going to get mad if I reinterpret the story of the temple of apollo right? Like, there's no issue if I swap out apollo with Helios (same guy at least some of the time) or make the Pythia his demi-daughter

>>10047403

>If I were a Hindu I probably wouldn't notice,

You would if you just went back in time.

>>10047431
If I personally were a Hindu, me, the reader. It works in story terms.

>>10047424
Read Creatures of Light and Darkness. Typhon inserted into gonzo Egyptian mythology. Great stuff. Yeah nobody cares.

>>10042802
>no tolkien on the flowchart
why?

>>10047152
Mieville and Wright both:
>Have extremist social/political beliefs which influence their work in a mostly-interesting but occasionally obnoxious way.
>Have a fascination with the grotesque and seem to enjoy writing stories where some objectively weird shit is considered normal by the characters
>Write pretty good characters and dialogue compared to other working SFF authors
>Sometimes imagination outpaces talent
>Tabletop RPG players and use that as a source of inspiration for their writing
>Clearly inspired by pulps and have strong historical knowledge of SFF.

Mieville is a little more polished (he has better editors). Wright has a better sense of humor. Mieville is way more swole, but Wright has successfully reproduced.

>>10047274
His best work is The Golden Age (debut novel, pre-Christianity but you can tell he's going that way), Awake in the Night Land, and his ongoing Eschaton Sequence which I would loosely describe as an incredibly American take on Three Body Problem.

>>10047315
The analogy of superhuman intellects to orders of angels in the Eschaton books is genius though. And YA book about a Catholic paladin would've never worked if he wasn't a believer.

>>10047433
Typhon was in egyptian mythology though, wasn't he? I'm pretty sure there was at least one telling where Isis escaped to egypt with horus during Typhon's reign and he later returned as an adult to do join the battle aided by hermes

>>10047446
1. because it was made by a redditor
2. because who the fuck needs a flowchart to "discover" Tolkien?

Asking for a little help here anons: Has anybody got this 550gb scifi collection

>>>/t/680325

and is torrenting it? I have all the parts except the first 1990 part. I am still missing 40 gb there and have been crawling along at 10-20 kbps for weeks. I am seeding all the other parts and have seen some people leeching at 1 Mbps, 2Mbps and one guy even at almost 8 Mbps, but the first 1990 part seems to be utterly devoid of any high powered seeders.

>>10047499
flowcharts aren't about discovering, they are about providing the basics and letting you move from there

>>10046251
Vance tried to serve in WWII but his eyesight was too poor so he ended up in the merchant marines. I think he was in Pearl Harbor shortly before the attack working in a shipyard and learning Japanese--I remember something about him writing kanji inside naval hulls for practice.

The surprise for me is that he would bother to express an opinion within this context.

I see Frank Herbert is missing, of those I know to have been friends of Vance. Poul Anderson is present as is Robert Silverberg.

>>10046178
This was a very interesting post; thank you.

>>10046178
Who are the best authors on the pro war side?

>>10045249
Just started reading it, I dislike how he describes events (especially magic/stormlight related) directly to the reader, it feels like I'm reading a kid telling me about a video game he made up

>>10047810
Poul, Vance, Heinlein, Niven, Saberhagen, Brackett. I hear good things about Hal Clement and Ed Hamilton too. For some reason, despite their influence on the field, they're not the authors modern academics reference. Weird, huh?

>>10047085
I don't know, but I'm writing a fantasy novel in which a sentient, sapient dragon fucks the MC because she (the dragon) has a xeno fetish. I feel like it'll appeal to the waifufag and furfag markets.

Are there any novels with no female characters?
Ideally about manly men beating the shit out of each other.
I can think of at least three manga with either none at all, or they only have very minor roles.

>>10047826
Alright I'm thinking about picking up The Mote in God's Eye and Tau Zero. Are they any good?

>>10047855
Mote is really fun, shows off Niven's creativity better than his Known Space stuff IMO. Haven't read Tau Zero but I've been consistently impressed with everything else of his I've read. I'm honestly very confused at how little attention Poul gets today.

>>10047854
What manga?

>>10047861
Ty phambuddy.

>>10047863
Baki has only has less than 10 female characters in the almost 1000 chapters or more it's been going on for. The picture is from it.
Crows and Worst have zero.

I pictured Dorcas as Elle Fanning :3

>tfw no stormlight lewds out
Why live lads?

>>10047729
No problemo, matey.

To the Clark Ashton Smith shill, have you read any Algernon Blackwood? The Willows and The Wendigo are excellent short stories, and both HPL and CAS were inspired by them.

>>10047366
He doesn't come into sffg. That is an outer lit problem. The GRI appreciation would scare him off even if we don't use scantily clad females.

>>10047403
>who is not hung up on Mary's later sex life
Did she turn a whore? Is there sff books where Jesus's mom gets her pregnant virgin vagina reamed out?

>>10047863
Every yaoi manga has no female characters.

>>10047729
And Vance only got into the Merchant Navy by memorising the eye test, which is exactly something Cugel or Kirth Gersen would have done. I'm also surprised he would stick his neck out on this, when his fiction is full of protags who value discretion and inscrutability. This suggests it was a very well thought out and heartfelt opinion.

Apropos of nothing, was Joe Haldeman's critical ascent down to his service in Viet Nam and some kind of collective guilt by peers and Hugo Judges?

>>10048049
No but he has been on my radar for a long time. I chose to get reasonably upto speed on Arthur Machen when I might have chosen Blackwood in another instance.

>>10047558
No one wants to use Tolkien as a starting point to move to anywhere. Fuck off.

>>10047729
>after more than a year mule boy finally shows his face
Were you in prison? Did you molest some 20 something year old? I missed shit posting on you donkey.

>>10047846
>I'm writing a fantasy novel in which a sentient, sapient dragon fucks the MC
Are you the Dragon sex anon from outer lit that has been promising this novel for at least 5 years?

>>10047846
So you're writing Drakengard?

>>10047947
But elle fanning is ugly as fuck. I would rather Dakota fanning. You cunny fags don't care what they look like huh? Once they have cunnies.

What about your old 2011 favorite? R.

>>10047810
Lafferty is the best author in both sides, and by far, followed by Jack Vance.

>>10047846
>sapient dragon fucks the MC because she (the dragon) has a xeno fetish
sounds hot

Someone buy the ebook off Amazon for Thune's Vision then send it to me.

>>10048363
>buy shit for me
>i usually get my way
>btw I'm a girl

>>10048388
>btw I am a fucking cancerous slut replying to an even more cancerous fucking sult

>>10046389
>>10046567
All valid criticism, especially on the dialogue tags and descriptive beats. Thank you very much.
The concept is or isn't unique depending on how much you wish to invest in this story. For example you said "Avatar but with no Avatar and edgier" but in the upcoming chapter (chapter 4) we're going to have the Avatar revealed and the plot picks up tremendously once every actor is in place, so to speak.

All in all, I appreciate every bit of criticism and I'll truly put your advice to good use in the following chapters.

>>10048388
I-I'm a boy! And I would buy it for myself, but I've never ordered an ebook and have no idea how. I just did the free example option on Amazon and it said it sent it to my device but I don't even have a damn device.

>>10048470
>boys reading books
Has anyone read the original unedited version of Asimov's short story "Liar"? In the collection I have he comments that it was rewritten to remove embarrassingly juvenile ideas about females. I've always thought "Liar" was the odd one out of his Robot stories in terms of characterization and wonder if the original as written was any better. Pretty sure it's in pic related. Guess I'll have to reread both versions.

>>10048470
>I-I'm a boy!
Are you tan?

>>10048470
dicks or gtfo

>>10048516
>>10048558
Silly boys. I'm a boy but I don't have boy parts. Here is a pic of me.

>>10046178
>Compton Crook
>Jay Kay
>CC MacApp
What the fuck.

>>10048228
Nah, I only decided to make the dragon a dragon a few months ago. Before that she was just a woman.

>>10046358

After book 3 or 4 though they stop being about John Carter and focus on one of his sons or a guard in his army or something. I personally enjoyed the stories about Carter himself but there was one where the main character got body-switched and had to find the scientist who stole his original body that was pretty fun.

Anyone else read Morgaine? Finished it earlier this week and I have mixed feelings. Loved the worldbuilding (especially the drowning land of the second novel), the ol' fantasy world with ancient technology trope, and the limited POV of the sidekick. On the other hand, I had to force myself to get through a few chapters. How many times is Cherryh gonna write about horses getting tired out?

>>10048049
Blackwood is GOAT

>>10048575
>Silly boys.
implying

>>10048973
I saw this on the shelf at the library. Might check it out, the only thing I've read by Cherryh is Cyteen.

>>10048205
pretty ironic considering there's a conan discussion at this very moment

Anyone here ever read DM Cornish's Monster Blood Tattoo series? It has one of the most original worlds ever built in fantasy that I've come across.

>>10049088
That's the fourth in the series. Haven't read it yet, but apparently there's a different villain than in the original trilogy, so my guess is that it could stand on its own.

>>10049207
Oops my bad anon. The cover is from the fourth book (at least my paperback edition). Shoulda clicked on the pic first

The Fitz and the Fool is the best her Realm of the Elderlings trilogies. Well done Hobb.

>>10048973
I've got it in my pile. Sounds like a recommendation.

What are some of the better sci-fi and fantasy magazines to subscribe to these days if I want to check out up-and-comers and whatever's exciting and different in those genres?

Any good weird fiction magazines at present?

Is there any fantasy novel that portrays this song really well?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfXBNQMj2SE

>>10049226
Ever since I read the Assassin's Apprentice series by her I get a screming fit whenver I read the word "coterie". Plus, the series probably had the shittiest, most hamfistedly rushed and most unsatisfactory ending I have ever encountered.

>>10048973
>>10049088
>>10049227
The Morgaine Saga is some very early Cherryh work that lacks her later polish. Generally anything she wrote in the 70's I'd say. Did you know she collaborated with an artist on a graphic novel version of Gate of Ivrel? Only a portion of the story was completed, but you can still buy signed copies of old stock directly from her (I did :3).

>>10049481
Looks interesting, I'll have to check it out. Shame it didn't continue, there are a lot of scenes from Shiuan & Azeroth that'd be quite interesting to see visually

>>10046383
Not an argument.
>>>/r/thedonald

>>10046509
>Is it true i can skip some books
Why even bother starting a 14 book series? No, it's not true.

The series would benefit from a better editor, but it has some cool concepts and ideas, a lot of SoL chapters, good lore/world building and maximum comfy. You'll hate some characters and like others (they vary from reader to reader). If you don't like filler, slow chapters and prefer a tightly focused story, don't bother starting. The other anon mentioned the dull middle, I'd argue it's overblown because: until book 6, the books were episodic in a way (you know that the end game is the Final Battle, and each book ended with a milestone, or a finished quest or something of the sort, even after some of the main characters had separated), but after book 6 some of the separate storylines/quests didn't end with the end of the book, and kept up in the next one; this, plus the delay between releases had the fanbase grow frustrated as they weren't getting progress as fast as before. Now that you have access to the whole series, the wait isn't there; there are more filler or slower chapters than in the first 3 books, but as I said I think that the middle being a chore to read is overblown. I guess it depends on the reader. If you make the investment and start the series, I'd suggest to read something else (like a stand-alone, or something shorter/more focused) instead of skipping an entire book. 14 books with 570-1100 pages each can burn you out, but it's autistic to skip them. Either take a break, or drop it altogether if it's not your thing. No need to force yourself, and no need to start a 12000 page series if you want to read the wiki and get done with it.

>>10049545
Please take your spam elsewhere.

>>10049674
Please neck yourself.

>>10042802
>What are your favorite SFF magazines?
Taking a break right now from working my way through the current Clarkesworld (pic related). I'm really enjoying it, and I appreciate the willingness of the editors to publish more experimental work.

Can anybody recommend anything that's similar (legitimately cutting-edge and interesting) but focused on fantasy, horror, and "weird" fiction?

I'd like to read the fantasy book that most closely resembles this gif. No YA allowed

>>10050227
>no YA
fuck you

Something about this series strikes me as off...I've loved the Farseer trilogy as well as the Tawny Man, and found Liveship to be thoroughly okay, but I'm hesitant to jump into the Rain Wilds.

Would /sffg/ reccomend this series by Robin Hobb?

>>10050302
Denied

>>10050227
Orphan Star.

>>10050305
>would I recommend robin hobb
'No'

>>10050333
>I'm a faggot who has shit taste.

>>10050359
I'm >>10050305. Have you read all of her books? Should I skip the Rain Wilds?

Stormlight archive would be orders of magnitude better if it was just the kaladin chapters with no flashbacks. Even if they insisted on the epic size and had to put in dull lulls, it would be better

>>10050383
Reading the Oathbreaker chapters and this is the first time Sanderson's writing has been painful. Maybe I've been reading finer stuff since then but what he's going for absolutely demands elevated, epic language, which he just doesn't have.

>>10050359
>I'm a faggot who likes books with a horribly tied together plot with shit pacing

Are there any Oathbreaker ARC anons in here?

>>10050412
We all are
https://www.tor.com/series/oathbringer/

>>10050412
Someone upload the fucking ARC please

>>10050408
>this faggot cuck taste

>>10050383
>>10050395
>>10050412
>Sunday Times Bestselling Author
Who is Sunday Times?

>Asian on the cover
What?
>Expected publication: November 14th 2017 by Gollancz
>2 more months then 3 years till next Sanderson book that actually matters

>>10050435
That face isn't even that asian looking. But that's probably szeth son son's wife.

>>10050435
>>10050435
>then 3 years till next Sanderson book that actually matters
But this is coming out next year

>>10050383
>>10050395
He's a man of the times. Writers no longer go through the short story mill like they used to do when starting out, where they would have learned to tell a story in a less bloated way. So books became bigger, encouraged even further by the readership equating length with satisfaction; thinking about books as if they were big juicy cocks.

>>10050435
Everybody on Roshar who's not Shin has epicanthic folds.

>>10050449
i guess he's embracing the anime fully now

>>10050452
Well I like big juicy cocks and big juicy books. I just don't like the add of shofting perspectives. Let me immerse myself in a character story

>>10050452
It's worse than that; writers don't have the connection with classics of their craft that they used to. Can you imagine Sanderson reading Dunsany? Eddison?

>“Azimir, capital of Azir,” Dalinar said, stepping from Urithiru to the center of Azir to the west, “is home to an Oathgate. We need to open it and gain the trust of the Azish. They will be important to our cause.”

>He stepped farther to the west. “There’s an Oathgate hidden in Shinovar. Another in the capital of Babatharnam, and a fourth in far-off Rall Elorim, City of Shadows.”

>“Another in Rira,” Navani said, joining him. “Jasnah thought it was in Kurth. A sixth was lost in Aimia, the island that was destroyed.”

>Dalinar grunted, then turned toward the map’s eastern section. “Jah Keved makes seven,” he said, stepping into Shallan’s homeland. “Thaylen City is eight. Then the Shattered Plains, which we hold.”

>“And the last one is in Kholinar,” Adolin said softly. “Our home.”

You should have gotten goosebumps when Dalinar said "Rall Elorim, city of shadow." You didn't because Sanderson's language has nothing to do with far-off cities of shadow or sunken islands or chivalric orders. It's the language of petty middle-class Americans, the language of banter and Joss Whedon and professionals doing their job but they're funny. He's crippled.

>>10046281
>Mormonism teaches that black people are cursed because their ancestors didn't fight on God's side when Lucifer rebelled, but they can slowly turn white if they join the LDS Church.
>be Black
>shill Sanderson on 4chen and to rl people
>they like it
>this going on for years
>basically a sandersonfag now
>year of the meme 2008+9
>find out sanderson probably hates me because I'm black and had LDS missionaries come to my house when I was a kid but never converted
This sucks. It's like finding out your favourite author thinks your trash... wait a minute...

>>10050457
Isn't it the other way around? Shins are big eyed with azn features, just like platic koreans or japanese

>>10050449
Looks like unapologetic YA

>>10050491
If it makes you feel better none of that is actually true.

>>10050491
The LDS doesn't explicitly preach that kind of stuff anymore, if that helps at all.

>>10050449
WARBREAKER 2 AND RITHAMIST 2 GOT PUSHED BACK FOR THIS TRASH
RRREEEE

>>10050488
I'm familiar with Sanderson's online lectures where his knowledge of 80s-90s SF+Fantasy shines though. I suspect he has a large reading gap of anything pre 1970 outside of Lord Of The Rings and Lankhmar. What I did find interesting is his avowed admiration of Jane Austen.

Since you mention Dunsany - he loved the language of The King James Bible and he obviously drew on its tone and grammar a lot to evoke wonder.

>>10050542
Exactly, 80s-90s fantasy doesn't evoke that much wonder.

I think knowing Austen is a Mormon thing. She's very wholesome.

>>10050449
>>10050537
What is with this guy and not finishing a series before moving on to something else?

>>10050557
Rekconers had a big fandom and made him a lot of money (plus it's YA so parent buy it faster). It's no surprise that he writes rekconers 2 to get his cash grab on. He got a wife, 2 kids, excessive traveling and a sweet tooth habit to fund.

>>10050554
Arthur Conan Doyle is pretty wholesome fare as well, but I think Mormons could be disinclined towards him what with the first Sherlock Holmes novel taking a drastic gear change halfway through to illustrate, in exacting detail, the atrocities of their ancestors.

I think Mormons would absolutely love Sherlock Holmes otherwise.

>>10048205
I tried reading Dhalgren and it felt like I was reading someone with down syndrome speak nadsat.

>>10050594
He apologized for that though.

>>10050435
Will Shallan get DARKEYED?

>>10050605
She's gonna develop a deep and abiding love for Adolin and stick with him even after he gets exiled for a murder spree. Jasnah, though, she's gonna /ss/ herself a bridgeman.

>>10050542
>avowed admiration of Jane Austen
I can kind of see this.

>>10050604
Post-publishing authorial intent is irrelevant, after the book has been in print for 150+ years.

>>10050613
>he gets exiled for a murder spree
So is oathbringer out? Why do people seem to know so much? I don't know how to feel about Adolin being a baddie

>>10050625
But the Mormon response to it is mostly "oh cool, we're in this, he got it all wrong but at least he tried, how sweet."

>>10050630
Twelve chapters are up at Tor right now, new ones every week.
I didn't say he was guilty

>>10050634
What the heck is the point of organised religion if you don't harbor extremely vindictive grudges against naysayers?

>>10050654
Having friends, helping people, and finding meaning in life?

>>10050654
It's all about the subtle stuff, you know, making people who are spiritual but not religious feel left out, they love that. Also there's oppressing atheists.

>>10050654
community, safety net, local institutions

>>10046741
Any ai greentext in /ss13general/

someone spoonfeed me the szeth short story from arcanum since i cant find an illegal download of it anywhere

Exactly how big should an expositionary fairy tale in the middle of a story be? Asking for a friend

>>10048192
>when his fiction is full of protags who value discretion and inscrutability
Good point. They're usually level-headed as well and would question the value of having foreign policy decisions vetted by paperback authors who happened to write in a given genre because it paid better than bad poetry. One might as well appoint Navarth Connatic.

I assume that this was in the early Sixties though so Vance may not have reconciled himself (as he later appeared to) to being a fringe player in the genre. His attitude in the Seventies would seem a fair bit more reticent, even dismissive.

>>10050654
>>10050655
>>10050661

None of these necessitate creating Mormonism - but here I now bow out, my question was facetious at best, juvenile at worst. As for myself, gnosticism is very interesting - the bible itself even more so, as an eons and kingdoms spanning collaborative document of humankind trying to grapple with how best to live.

>>10050383
Honestly it should have just been Dalinar's POV.

>>10050594
>listening to Study in Scarlet for the first time
>enjoying it so far, pretty comfy
>Jefferson Hope busts through Sherlock's door, then scene change
>wait what the fuck is going on
>why the fuck are we in Utah all of a sudden the fuck is this

>>10050678
exactly 12,160 words long, you're welcome

>>10050488
>It's the language of petty middle-class Americans, the language of banter and Joss Whedon and professionals doing their job but they're funny.

Tbh it sounds worse than that, at least in this passage (haven't read Memederson myself)

>>10050733
No cause adolin has nore things going on and is likely the most central character of the overarching plot. I can see your point though

>>10050827
>Adolin
I meant kaladin. I should post on sffg at times were I'm not so tired

>>10050637
>I didn't say he was guilty
Misunderstanding is like the single worst way to move a plot. It doesn't intrigue or cause tension, it's just annoying

>>10050788
So many subordinate clauses breaking sentence flow. It's so unaesthetic, but God help me the worldbuilding's so good

>>10050852
Misunderstanding or being framed probably by the Ghostbloods, oh Sandman why oh why do you always have an ultra-powerful ultra-secret conspiracy that's already horned in on the cool discoveries so your characters can't see them first, it wasn't fun the first time and it's not fun in every single other novel

>>10050859
Sanderson really likes his comfort zone. Has he ever written a book that didn't share 90% of everything every other book he wrote had?

I'd ask the old magic of stormlight archive to make me pretty uwu

>>10050557
I believe he said--either some interview or during one of his lectures--that the reason why he jumps between different projects is that by the time he's finished with a book he's absolutely sick of that setting and wants to work on something different. So, he writes other stuff to cleanse his palette, more or less, before diving back into that series again.

has anyone here met sanderson?

>>10051045
Yes

>>10050503
lmao get out mdf

>>10050663
yeeeeee my booooyyy

>>10050491

they also think American indians were originally white but were turned red to punish them for their sins, if it makes you feel any better blanon

Someone make a new thread.

>>10049138

i have not but will check it out, judging by the cover it looks cool

Just finished the second stormlight book, what now? I loved the series, any recs?

>>10051539
Third stormlight book is coming out in 2 months.

>>10051577
Nigga I'm not waiting two months to read again

>publisher puts out open call for un-agented manuscripts
>says to include links to your social media in cover letter

Is this some kind of test? Should I make social media accounts and fill them with shit, or just admit to not having any? Will they throw away the application?

>>10051809
Just send them screencaps of your 4chan posting history.
Even better if it's from /sffg/.

>>10051809
Tell them you're a strong and independent black lesbian cripple and you don't need no social media accounts.

New thread:
>>10051958
>>10051958
>>10051958

>>10051809
They won't even bother to look at you if you don't have a solid social media following.