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Dead Authors Edition.
>Lucifer's Hammer co-author dies at 84
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/15/obituaries/jerry-pournelle-science-fiction-novelist-and-computer-guide-dies-at-84.html
>List some post 2000 dead authors
>Gene Wolfe will die in your lifetime

>/SFFG/ Recommendations:
FANTASY
Selected:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21329.jpg
General:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21328.jpg
Flowchart:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21327.jpg

SCIENCE FICTION
Selected:
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>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21331.jpg
General:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21332.jpg
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21330.jpg

NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21333.jpg

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Someone bought the Shoreline of Infinity 8.5 for me on a private tracker. Pic related is the Palmer story.

(The last time I read a story this Wikipedia it was the Doctor Who story - The Adventuress of Henrietta Street which was ENTIRELY written like this: https://i.imgur.com/Ux5vzCV.png )

>> No.10030935

>>10030930
>handball
is that the future name for handegg?

>> No.10030937

>>10030935
>tfw I just had to look up handegg
That is some seriously weird murrican terminology.

>> No.10030965

Just started Tolkien's lord of the rings, I'm surprised it isn't in lit's recommended charts. Anyways what is lit's opinion on the book?

>> No.10030973

>>10030965
My bad, just saw it

>> No.10030976

>>10030937
Handegg is Brit.

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>>10030976
Oh well it's not like I would know.

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>>10030980

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Absolute hero, if you've not read this you need to.

>> No.10030998

>>10030979
You strayan?

>> No.10031005

>>10030998
Yeah. We call handball handball here and there's Aussie Rules football but they're two different things.

>> No.10031015

>>10030976
Handegg is merican
In England it's called rugby

>> No.10031050

Does Redwall still hold up? Feeling kinda nostalgic and I'm thinking of reading them now in my early 30s.

>> No.10031222

>>10030930
>Maxi Aviator Diáz.
>Not Díaz.

>> No.10031243

>>10031050
It sure as hell does.

>> No.10031315

I've been reading the Horus Heresy books for the last 3 months and I'm at book 40 right now. It's been a nice wild ride and they're pretty enjoyable for the most part.

I was a bit skeptic as to wether I'd like em but I am pleasantly surprised. Can be plenty pulpy sometimes but its almost always entertaining.

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Read this, definitely enjoyable and would recommend. Good use of the first person, especially for a new writer. Looking forward to finding out war sucks with that kind of mobility; maybe the future automated luxury hedonists are about to rediscover borders.

I did get the feeling that the author is really fucking proud of herself for having written this. It's not off-putting, but the sense of Palmer patting herself on the back at some of the lines written is palpable.

As a debut novel about life in a futuristic society with a novel social structure on the brink of radical transformation through the eyes of a mysterious protagonist, I was reminded pretty strongly of The Golden Age. Mycroft is a better character than Phaethon, but other than that I preferred TGA by a wide margin. The latter had more focus on plot and less on archaeofuturist LARPing.

>> No.10031350

>>10031315
>book 40
What the fuck man

>> No.10031391

>>10031350
Different guy, but they started probably before I was in middle school. I'm almost done my uni undergrad degree now, and theyre still coming out. I think mild autism is necessary to read that many.

>> No.10031461

>>10031350
It's 45 books so far, yea. I'm almost done getting up to speed but they have released up to like 8 books a year of it, like they did in 2016, so there''ll always be a bit more to read.

I enjoy it though, usually when I like a book I'm done with it in like a week and wish there were more, in this case there was plenty more.

>> No.10031597

Is Kellhus modelled after someone Bakker knows? Like the guy who comes over to fuck his wife?

>> No.10031603

>>10031315
Why?

Horus Heresy quality drops to zero in the first few books.

Imperial guard books are way better.

>> No.10031647

>>10031603
I disagree desu, theres a few books I liked more than the first ones throughout the series.

Its all pretty pulpy if you're going by literary standards but most sci fi and fantasy is to some degree anyway.

>> No.10031667

>>10031647
>>>10031603 (You)
>I disagree desu, theres a few books I liked more than the first ones throughout the series.
Which ones? I dropped it around book 9 or 10. Traitor primarchs were so whiny I couldn't stand it.

Can you read them on their own?

>> No.10031675

Convincing your girlfriend she's crazy or paranoid is called gaslighting and it's a dick move.

But convincing her she's a robot with artificially implanted human memories and emotions is called bladerunning.
It's a Phillip K. Dick move.

>> No.10031676

henlo sexy girls ;)

>> No.10031696

>>10031667
The Unremembered Empire, A Thousand Sons, Angel Exterminatus, Vengeful Spirit, amongst others depending on your taste.

You know how the books go, you can probably read some on their own but you'll probably miss out on some continuity.

I understand dropping around where you did I suppose, given you had recently read the first Dark Angels book which feels a bit unconnected to the story and is kinda dull and Battle for the Abyss which is kinda so as well, followed by an anthology of short stories.

I just have mild autism towards series and I enjoy the lore so I dont mind sitting through a few meh books out of a series of 45 since that kind of writing you can just churn through and doesnt take too long.

I'd say read the synopsis of each book and see what you're interested in reading I suppose, no one is holding a gun to your head.

>> No.10031731

How does /sffg/ feel about Legend of the Galactic Heroes?

>> No.10031772

>>10031731
I watched the first episode and couldn't get into it

then again I'm not much of an anime watcher

>> No.10031791

>>10031731
Whenever the translators couldn't figure out what they were saying they made shit up.

>> No.10031864

>>10031791
CA translators or chinese bootleg translation.

>> No.10031896

>>10031731
I watched two episodes. It was dull as dishwater, the characters have the little variation from the same boringly stoic and formal personalities, and the spaceship fights are perfunctory. Maybe you could explain the appeal.

>> No.10031996

Who else /AlfredBester/ here?
I've read The Stars, My Destination and The Demolished Man and they're two of the most entertaining and invigorating sci-fi novels I've ever read. I also have Computer Connection but I've heard it's not very good so I'm kinda weary about reading it.

>> No.10032446

Just finished Hyperion. What do I fill my life with now.

>> No.10032481

>>10031597
Kellhus is modeled after meme magic. (Seriously)

>> No.10032673

How many fantasy novels read like a Slice of Life anime?

>> No.10032703

>>10032673
A Wise Man's Fear is pretty much a SoL novel, that's all I can think of tbqh

>> No.10032709

>>10032673
I mean, you could read the novel versions of animu.
I'd recommend Welcome to the N.H.K. while not fantasy, it's a decent read. and has the saddest afterword fucking ever.

>> No.10032713

Is there a critic or website that gives a good list of the best fantasy and science fiction? Somebody who is truly knowledgeable about them not a pleb

>> No.10032717

>>10032713
me, on this site

>> No.10032719

>The Red Knight
just started this, dropped in like 5 minutes after the main character "seduces" a nun

>> No.10032747

>>10032713
Nigga this shit is objective. You might find some everyone can agree on shaped the genre, one mans opinion on an evergreen top read is another mans pleb tier entry level shit.

>> No.10032751

>>10032719
haven't you been keeping up with the GRI memes, son? the Red Knight is GRI-UNAPPROVED.

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>>10032719
He doesn't even rape her. It's a shit book. Only interesting thing is the ending with the dragon and I'm sure the author is incompetent enough to fuck up his next book even with that part.

The fae and sun and God magic didn't help either. Because it's the Christian god they are talking about in the novels and he don't allow you mixing pagan shit with his miracles.

>> No.10032765

>>10031731
Oberstein did nothing wrong.
The ending kinda sucked because the Earthists didn't really have anything interesting going on, but other than that pretty good.
SEIG KAISER REINHART!
SEIG NEUE REICH!

>> No.10032769

>>10032761
I don't think it was rape either, it just made me drop the book because it was such a lazy attempt to make the main character look "morally ambiguous" and I could guess straight away what he was going to do with the character

>> No.10032773

>>10032747
I think you mean subjective. Not objective.

>> No.10032775

>>10032773
I forgot a "not" there, or yeah as you said subjective. My bad.

>> No.10032780

>>10032713
http://ansible.uk/sfx/top20fsf.html

>> No.10032794

>>10032769
It was shitty. Had to force myself to finish it. And the shill back then was waxing poetic about this pile of shit. I was so mad I took time out of my day and made an anti gri pic.

When I finished and confronted him about it, he admits it was "a little shitty" but it gegs better in book 2. Imagine having to read 2 books for something to get gud. He tried to start his shit when book 3 (or 4 can't remember) was released, but got shut down pretty quick.

>> No.10032796

>>10032713
You can try him. He only does dinosaurs though.
http://greatsfandf.com/authors-full-list.php

>> No.10032809

>>10032703
>>10032709
Thanks

>> No.10032835

>>10032769
>>10032794
it's good fuck all y'all

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Anyone here read Jack Vance? I don't know where I should start, I'm approaching him from the GW route if that helps you recc anything

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Are there any selections that deal with sex in zero-g?

>> No.10033070

>>10033017
The Dying Earth - short story collection, good enough place to start imo since it doesn't require you to have read anything else by him.

>> No.10033099

>>10033017
I've read three of the Dying Earth volumes, To Live Forever, Emphyrio, The Last Castle, and two of The Demon Princes novels. They're all at least good, and a couple are great. He can do science fiction, fantasy, revenge novels, planetary romances, dystopias, picaresque adventures. If you're coming from the Wolfe then the first Dying Earth book is the one you want.

>> No.10033122

>>10033022
I believe Stephen Baxter's Manifold Time had one.

>> No.10033173

>>10033017
http://forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic.php?f=1293&t=453075&hilit=jack+dying

an omnibus of his dying earth stories and novels

read through (or just skip) the first 4 or 5 stories until you reach cugel (at least that's how it was for me)

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>>10031315
What the fuck man

>> No.10033317

>>10033269
what's this?

>> No.10033334

>>10033317
I don't know mang. I hadn't heard of the series and 40 books of genre schlock sounds right up my alley.

So I checked wikipedia and got that. Does it show up for you if you go to the page?

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>>10033334
fugg

>> No.10033345

>>10033334
>>10033317
>>10033269
Some guy edited some floating template thats on a lot of pages to that. Apparently its been reverted but might still show up for a while.

JonBenet Ramsay is a pretty famous unsolved murder case, but this guy almost certainly didn't do it.

>> No.10033346

>>10033334
Now it's gone

>> No.10033550

>>10032713
http://www.castaliahouse.com/

>> No.10033588

>>10032713
http://www.conceptualfiction.com/

>> No.10033605

>>10033269
https://tools.wmflabs.org/templatecount/index.php?lang=en&name=Vanchor&namespace=10#bottom

it would have only showed up on the 744 pages where this template was used

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Vanchor&action=history

>> No.10033639

>>10031731
Very Lovecraftian

>> No.10033666

>>10032446
fall of hyperion

>> No.10033669

>>10033345
Yeah, I think right now the general theory is that either the parents killed her, or her brother accidentally killed her during horseplay and the parents covered it up.

>> No.10033671

What's the "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" of books?

>> No.10033683

Are there any fantasy/sword and sorcery books that arent either super dark, or about the world ending and a group of campions trying to save it? Im just lookong for some light, fun reading for entertainment

>> No.10033688

Once and Future King worth a read?

I'm kinda afraid that it will be a bit of a drag to read, mainly because I fear the story has been re-told a million times in books and shows and films, that the original story will do little to stay entertaining.

>> No.10033699

>>10033683
Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser

>> No.10033701

>>10033688

Skip the first part, the other three are much better.

>> No.10033788

>Old sci-fi book
>full of predictions that turned out wrong that kinda take you out of it
>modern sci-fi/fantasy book
>basically left wing propaganda.
I mean, I consider myself somewhat left leaning, but can I NOT read a fucking book without it going WYMYN CAN DO ANYTHING in a tone that makes me think: "nigga I didn't say they couldn't, and the way you overcompensate by making your girls super competent makes it seem like you secretly think women can't do shit".

Like the Trudi Canavan books, with her god damn fucking homosexual side-plot which is JUST there to say "gays are ok you dummies!". Literally it's about mages the whole fucking time and suddenly there's a b-plot about how a secretly gay mage is in danger of being found out and losing all his status and becoming an outcast, but this OTHER society of mages would welcome him! Ohhh they don't even care, be gay! it's fine! and it's so.. SO fucking obvious that she entered some pointless fucking social commentary mode.

Not to mention that in what amounts to medieval villages there was a legit reason to hate on homosex. There was a good chance you actually needed the fucking to procreate, by taking suitable partners out of "the pool" you would make the available genepool smaller, increase the change of incest... all that good stuff.

>> No.10033821

When is my next fix of Sanderson dropping? I'm jonesing hard here.

>> No.10033852

>>10033821
Oathbringer is released November 14

>> No.10033860

>>10033852
Also just because I love Sanderson's autism and I saw this when I looked it up:

>2017
June–August: Apocalypse Guard One (Fall 2018 Release)
Early September: Legion 3 (Sometime 2018 Release)
Late September–December: Apocalypse Guard Two (Mid 2019 Release)
Late December: Random Novella

>2018
January–March: Apocalypse Guard Three (Mid 2020 Release)
April–July: Wax and Wayne Four (Series finale, Fall 2019 Release)
August–December: Undecided (Rithmatist 2, maybe?)

>2019
All months: Stormlight Four (Fall 2020 Release)

>> No.10033868

>>10033821
Luckily he keeps to a schedule.

>> No.10034211

>>10033868
Yep. Say what you want about him, I like the fact he puts out books on a regular basis.

>> No.10034216

>>10031050
They are pretty simple books, but still sorta compelling.

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>you realise that PKD died at age 53
Goddamn it.

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Dick fans

Tonight Electric Dreams starts on the British Channel 4 (proxy it), a ten episode miniseries of a variety of adaptations of Dick's short stories

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8mLR1IlTeqs

Hopefully it won't beg off black mirror too much

>> No.10034337

is le morte de arthur worth a read?
this is sort of a prequel question to your>>10033688 question

>> No.10034340

>>10034298
Nice find anon.

>> No.10034348

>>10034298
>The uploader has not made this video available in your country.

>> No.10034350

I'm just going to hope that someone uploads it

>> No.10034367

>>10034348
https://www.proxfree.com/youtube-proxy.php

>> No.10034379

>>10031896
>I watched two of the weakest episodes in a 110-episode series, it's shit
Nice opinion man.
>>10031772
Try watching "My Conquest is the Sea of Stars" and "Overture to a New War". The former is the actual beginning of the series, that was released a couple of months before the series proper. The latter is a higher-budget retelling of the first two episodes which, among other improvements, gives Jean Robert Lapp more scenes, rather than just briefly showing his death as in the series.

>> No.10034717

>>10033860
So after November I have to wait till 2019 and 2020 to read another one of his books? I will be dead by then. Either by an heroing or dying painfully from organ failure.

>> No.10034754

>>10034379
I'm on Ep 80 right now. Gonna make it to the end by Thanksgiving.

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>>10034717
Write to him (or Peter) and tell him you don't appreciate these non cosmere YA books he putting out recently. Tell him you're okay with rithmatist, but not money grab multiple worlds Reckoner electric boogaloo 2 &3, nor autistic schizophrenic detective 3.

It's supposed to be a cosmere book a year. Sanderson will never complete his masterpiece.

>> No.10034761

>>10031339
>I did get the feeling that the author is really fucking proud of herself for having written this.

Same, but I'm willing to forgive a lot given the amount of trash that's getting recognized nowadays.

>> No.10034770

>>10034761
>shill patting himself on the back in multiple samefaggings

>> No.10034850

>>10033671
Philip K Dick

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>>10034760
does sanderson swear in his non-fantasy books? I heard an anon say he'd swear if it was an english/earth setting. :joy:

>> No.10034917

What are the best novels that portray this feeling the best?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OSIgpW-XUc

>> No.10034919

>want to get into fantasy
>start with lord of the rings
>I saw the movies so it's a drag
I didn't expect things to be this painful.

>> No.10034961

>>10034917
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/comments/5xp9l4/any_fantasy_book_with_lgbt_characters/

>> No.10035039

>>10034754
>I'm on Ep 80 right now.
Shit is gonna get real within the next couple of episodes.

>> No.10035064

>>10034298
Nice. I'd heard of it but hadn't found the release date. Looking forward to some sci-fi.

>> No.10035200

>>10034379
If something starts out shit, 9/10 it's going to be shit. And for the other 1/10 it's only 'good' for superficial reasons.

>> No.10035215

>>10034919

Once you get past rivendell the first time you should be on track. Moria is where the shit really kicks off.

>> No.10035220

>>10035200
Not him but when LoGH gets a rerelease it will probably be more concentrated. I got into Gundam easily but not LoGH although I am slowly reading that more fujoshi manga version and found the keikaku intensely to my liking. Gundam just has the exact charismatic character type I enjoy in Char Aznable.

>> No.10035231

>>10034919
Really? I personally read the books before the movies came out. But I've heard from people who saw the movies before reading the books that they enjoyed the more detailed look into the Middle-Earth that the books offer.
And that has been the case for me too with some of the movie adaptations where I read the book after seeing the movie.
What is making it a drag for you? The fact that you know how the story goes? That seems silly to me, surely you re-read say, some of your favourite books once in a while, right?

>> No.10035244

>>10034919
I read the books when I was young and now I retrospectively hate how black and white it is

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>tfw finishing Perdido Street Station
Dammit Mieville
Lin deserved better ;--;

>> No.10035579

>>10035231
Not him, I've enjoyed it so far but I see where a lot of people would find it tedious. Most of the story so far, up until they get to Bree, essentially consists of the hobbits having dinner at various places and occasionally being hassled by black riders.

Maybe it's not as bad in book form, but on the audiobook I'm listening to, this is a solid 7 or 8 hours in. But I enjoy the songs and the worldbuilding, it's very comfy.

>> No.10035605

>>10035579
You have to keep in mind that Tolkien was writing this series over a fairly long period of time so some sections will have a slightly different taste than others. Like the concerning hobbits section and first few chapters kinda summarize a lot of the world building he was doing with the Simiril short stories and he didn't know that the "War of the Ring" would turn nto the single most popular fantasy series ever.

>> No.10035768

>>10034919
>want to get into fantasy
>start with lord of the rings
Why on Earth would you do this? Why do people continue to do this as if it's some kind of obligatory starting point? I could see starting with LotR if you had a huge boner for old fashioned writing and were used to that style, but if you aren't it's basically like tying a huge anchor around your waist while learning how to swim.

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A hair-raising book shopping experience in this excerpt from a Clark Ashton Smith story, Hunters From Beyond.

---
The little shop was empty of customers. Knowing my proclivities, the owner and his one assistant became tacitly non-attentive after a word of recognition, and left me to rummage at will among the curiously laden shelves. Wedged in between other but less alluring titles, I found a deluxe edition of Goya's 'Proverbes.' I began to turn the heavy pages, and was soon engrossed in the diabolic art of these nightmare-nurtured drawings.

It has always been incomprehensible to me that I did not shriek aloud with mindless, overmastering terror, when I happened to look up from the volume, and saw the thing that was crouching in a corner of the book-shelves before me. I could not have been more hideously startled if some hellish conception of Goya had suddenly come to life and emerged from one of the pictures in the folio.

What I saw was a forward-slouching, vermin-gray figure, wholly devoid of hair or down or bristles, but marked with faint, etiolated rings like those of a serpent that has lived in darkness. It possessed the head and brow of an anthropoid ape, a semi-canine mouth and jaw, and arms ending in twisted hands whose black hyena talons nearly scraped the floor. The thing was infinitely bestial, and, at the same time, macabre; for its parchment skin was shriveled, corpselike, mummified, in a manner impossible to convey; and from eye sockets well-nigh deep as those of a skull, there glimmered evil slits of yellowish phosphorescence, like burning sulphur. Fangs that were stained as if with poison or gangrene, issued from the slavering, half-open mouth; and the whole attitude of the creature was that of some maleficent monster in readiness to spring.

>> No.10035820

>>10035778
You again.

>> No.10035855

>>10035768
Which introductory books would you recommend then?

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Has anybody checked out Mixed Bathing in Another Dimension, Volume One: The Hero of the Unlimited Bath?

How is it?

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So I'm having some major Mandela effect right now - a few months later I had watched the movie in which the Goblet of Fire and the Triwizard Cup are different objects and I got a bit annoyed because I thought they were one and the same in the book, but now I checked and they're also separate items there.

But if you think about it, wouldn't it make more sense to make them the same item? Touching the Cup was one of the biggest events in the book and arguably the whole series and it would have made a nice bookend to use the same artifact at the beginning and by the end of the story. Instead the title just refers to some thingy that's technically important but uninteresting and rarely mentioned later.

>> No.10035895

>>10035882
Pretty good and pretty unique in a field of generic copies.

>> No.10035915

>>10030904
>tfw you live forever if people never stop reading your books

>> No.10035929

>>10035882
This was surprisingly enjoyable, largely because, while he leads an active (albeit tame) fantasy life, the protagonist is reluctant to do anything with girls who are not fully consenting. Talk about a welcome change in the genre!

>> No.10035995

>>10034337
I like classic literature, and I couldn't force myself to get through more than two chapters of Le Morte d'Arthur. It's an important work to the western canon, but I found it incredibly unenjoyable to read.

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>>10033788
>>modern sci-fi/fantasy book
>>basically left wing propaganda.
The only modern author I read who is kinda left wing is Peter Hamilton and it's not so bad that it fucks up everything, because while almost every woman is competent, they are all massive whores, and the males aren't shown to be inferior or anything.

I mean really, you adopt a 17 year old and you tell her to have fun sleeping around as much as possible? And she goes and does that? And that's fine for everyone except the beta asspie who falls in love with the girl but that doesn't end up being a problem anyway?

>> No.10036097

>>10035855
The Hobbit is better as a starting book. You can leave LotR for later. Other than that, maybe some sword & sorcery? Not as big a scope as in epic fantasy, more action, no higher purpose etc.

>> No.10036101
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I remember walking along an animated street on a gray spring afternoon somewhere near the Madeleine. A short slim girl passed me at a rapid, high-heeled, tripping step, we glanced back at the same moment, she stopped and I accosted her. She came hardly up to my chest hair and had the kind of dimpled round little face French girls so often have, and I liked her long lashes and tight-fitting tailored dress sheathing in pearl-gray her young body which still retained—and that was the nymphic echo, the chill of delight, the leap in my loins—a childish something mingling with the professional frétillement of her small agile rump. I asked her price, and she promptly replied with melodious silvery precision (a bird, a very bird!) “Cent.” I tried to haggle but she saw the awful lone longing in my lowered eyes, directed so far down at her round forehead and rudimentary hat (a band, a posy); and with one beat of her lashes: “Tant pis,” she said.

>> No.10036426

>>10035882
Is the hero a trap? otherwise not really interested in light novels

>> No.10036850

>>10035778
Just letting you know you memed me into picking up a CAS collection a while back but I haven't starting reading them.

>> No.10036853

>>10035891
>expecting dramatic coherence from Harry Potter
>expecting chekov's gun from the author of Just Kidding Rowling

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>>10036850
Ol' Clark will be there when you're ready. Like any short story collections they're best read between other things. There's no real reading order, but The Tale Of Satampra Zeiros and The Abominations of Yondo feel like good introductions. Harlan Ellison was nuts about The City Of The Singing Flame and that's a great SF story.

>> No.10036934

Post Memes that sffg got you to read.
Me:
>The Meme Knight by Miles Cameron
>The Golem and the Meme by Helene Wecker
>The Meme Itself by Adam Roberts
>The Buried Meme by Kazuo Ishiguro
>Dhalmeme by Samuel R Delany
>Geomemer by Ian Irvine
>Three Parts Meme by Max Gladstone
>Mythago Meme by Robert Holdstock
>The Last Meme by Peter S Beagle
>Meme in Black and Gold by Adrian Tchaikovsky
>Son of the Black Meme by Larry Correia
>Retribution Meme by Chris Wooding

>> No.10037022

>“Reen. He beat me over, and over, and over. He swore at me, he yelled at me, he told me he’d betray me. Every day, I thought about how much I hated him. “And I loved him. I still do. It hurts so much to think that he’s gone, even though he always told me he would leave.”

I thought you all said Sanderson couldn't right real women?

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>>10033688
>Once and Future King worth a read?
Overall yes I think it is, but as far as Arthurian books go I do prefer The Warlord Chronicles, The Merlin Trilogy and The Pendragon Cycle.

>> No.10037083

>>10036934
>The Meme that comes before by R. Scott Bakker
>The Powder Meme by Brian McClellan
>The Thousand Memes by Django Wexler

>> No.10037114

>>10036934
Those are some good memes desu. Except Irvine, fuck that guy.

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can you recommend a children's/young adult fantasy novel that is fun and comfy like harry potter and Artemis Fowl? Only, one that doesn't make me feel too ashamed for reading it at my age.

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>>10037144
Have I been summoned?

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>>10037144

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>>10037144
Deltora Quest
The Edge Chronicles
Keys to the Kingdom
In order of more more -> less kiddy. Edge Chronicles has pictures but it's more like one of them Japanese light novels than a picture book.

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>>10037144

>> No.10037195

What's some good alternative history shit?

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>>10037144

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>>10037195
What period of history do you find really interesting?

The Man in the High Castle is still a great read.
>Set in 1962, fifteen years after an alternative ending to World War II, the novel concerns intrigues between the victorious Axis Powers—primarily, Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany—as they rule over the former United States, as well as daily life under the resulting totalitarian rule.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_in_the_High_Castle

>> No.10037227

>>10037195
Harry Turtledove has a ton, but he's kind of hit or miss. Joe Steele was fun.

>> No.10037232 [DELETED] 

Reading the Conan stories and enjoying everything about them right now. You go from one place to next and are never stuck in a meandering plotline.

Why is modern fantasy so dense and yet you get the feeling that hardly anything happens?

>> No.10037249

>>10037144
Kids: The Keys to the Kingdom, His Dark Materials, Sabriel, The Immortals quartet by Tamora Pierce

It-passes-as-YA-children-if-you-squint: Shades of Grey (Fforde), The Chronicles of Amber, The Echo of What Was Once Lost, Lord of the Rings

YA for if you are a grill with a high tolerance for unexpected Gay, Rape, Incest in pseudovictorian London and are willing to wait until half of the first book has passed before happening occurs and are really out of books to read: Dark Gifts series by Vic James

>>10036934
Out of at least 100 the best were:
Too Like the Memes by Ada Palmer → Humanities scifi
The Three Memes of Palmer Eldritch by PKD → Soft scifi with psychological elements
Ubik memes by PKD → Soft scifi with psychological elements
Blindopraximeme by Watts → Hard scifi
The Hyperion memes by Dan Simmons → Medium scifi
Solarimemes by Stanislaw Lem → Soft Scifi
The Coldfire Memes by CS Friedman → Scifantasy
The Foundational Memes by Asimov → Soft scifi
Tiganameme by GGK → Fantasy
Cat's Meme by Vonnegut → Soft scifi
Hard To Be A Meme by Strugatskys → Soft scifi
The Forever Meme by Haldeman → Hard scifi
Twelve Memes in Sharakhai by Beaulieu → Fantasy
Flowers for Memes by Keyes → Scifi
Long Price Meme by Abraham → Fantasy

>> No.10037263

>>10037224
I haven't read it because I've been enjoying the show quite a bit.

>>10037227
How political does he get though?

>> No.10037276

>>10037263
I mean, you can't write about history without politics being involved, but his focus is more on things like military tactics, interplay of personality between leaders, stuff like that (like, what would WWII be like if Stalin was president of the US, or how would the Revolutionary War play out if it was on Atlantis instead of America). He's not using his books to make allegory about current events, if that's what you're worried about.

>> No.10037279

>>10036081
>jokes on you that thing has a penis
Also
>phoneposting ifag

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>>10037195
Tales of Alvin Maker
The Plot Against America
The Years of Rice and Salt
Operation Chaos

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>>10036101
Why does this sound like Vlad mirin No bed cough?

>> No.10037312

>>10037155
idk, is this an ironic recommendation?

>>10037162
>>10037190
>>10037196
thanks! Will write them down and check them out later.

>>10037169
>>10037249
>look up Deltora Quest
>it has a fucking anime
now that's a surprise. I'll read this one out of curiosity and Keys to the Kingdom, since two recommended.

>> No.10037333

>>10037312
>Deltora Quest aired on The Hub back when it was still new
>MLP was what faggots ate up

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>>10037312
These ya are absolute trash. Don't touch them ever.

>> No.10037345

>>10031339
Only about 30 minutes into it but I like it so far, wasn't expecting it to be Fantasy, but I binge both genre and I love that the kid instantly starts asking insanely complicated morality questions about the potions.

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>>10033269
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH -WRETCHED DEEDS-

>> No.10037363

>>10035215
Not if you've seen how excellent the extended cut does everything, then it will be shitty forever because you know all the great meat of the story but without the vast world building mean't to give Silmarillion raging hard ons, worked on me because I love that shit but it is legit terrible fucking pacing.

Masterful prototype.

>> No.10037449

What sci-fi or fantasy character do you identify with the most?

(And before someone jumps in with a comment about not having to identify with a character to enjoy a book, I never said that you did.)

>> No.10037511

>>10037449
will from the ranger's apprentice(when i was a kid)

>> No.10037529

>>10037449
Akka desu

>> No.10037568

Why did GRRM suddenly decide to do chapters twice as long in AFFC? I could stand Brienne if her chapters weren't so long.

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>>10037449
ook

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>>10031597
>Like the guy who comes over to fuck his wife?

LMAO he is literally a fucking leaf so probably

>> No.10037734

>>10031675

honestly seriously underrated shitpost

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>characterization in a golden age scifi story

>> No.10037800

>>10035915
Is this why people keep memeing these old dinosaur books?

>> No.10037839

>>10037793
Nice try.

>> No.10037957

>>10037449
Liane the Wayfarer, we're birds of a feather.

>> No.10037960

>>10037728
>>>/pol/

>> No.10037970

>>10036934
90% of the people in this general doesn't actually read / hasn't read an entire book for over 2 years. How do you expect them to be memed into reading books when they don't remember.

>> No.10037984

>>10037970
>tfw you recommend and shit on books you've never read

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>>10037734
>>10031675
>that bit in Three Stigmata where Eldritch is wondering whether in circumventing his fate he is attracting divine punishment from a yet unintroduced God
>all those characters wondering what they did to deserve hallucinations/doubting their reality/getting schizophrenia/getting endlessly bullied/getting sent to their own personal hells/getting killed by their loved ones/unknowingly killing their loved ones/getting stuck in the tomb dimension where all they can see is the corpses of the people they know while maggots crawl out >getting completely JUSTED by gubble gubble gubble gubble
In some way, PKD scares me. What if religion is based on an actual truth and we're all fictional constructs created for the sole purpose of paying someone's rent?

>> No.10038056

>>10031675
I'm ashamed to say I smiled

>> No.10038057

Can someone remind me of the name of an author? He's fat and looks like the stereotypical "fedora atheist" but surprisingly is a Christian. I think he does sci-fi. Thanks in advance.

>> No.10038062

>>10038056
>becoming the /m/ you always dreamed of being

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Has anyone of you read the Tales of the Otori books? Thoughts? Would you recommend the series?

>> No.10038091

>>10038064
Generally I try to stay away from non-Japanese facsimiles of Japanese culture, because they always seem painfully unaware of anything but the dumbest, most inaccurate stereotypes, but this looks interesting for some reason. I'll check it out and give you my thoughts.

>> No.10038146

>>10038091
It's funny, because that was my exact thoughts when I heard of this book. That's why I came here to ask if anyone had read it.

>> No.10038189

>>10038064

I enjoyed them when I was younger. I'm not sure how they'd stack up now.

>> No.10038201

>>10035855
Depends on how old somebody is, how much reading they already do, and how much exposure to fantasy they have. Like, I'm not gonna recommend Chronicles of Narnia to a grown ass man looking for something compelling, but that'd make a good recommendation to a kid who wants to read fantasy.

I'd recommend the Hobbit to most people though, it's a much easier read than LotR and still captures a lot of what makes Tolkien good.

>> No.10038381

>tfw warlock of the magus world has gone to shit

Can anyone recommend some short, edgy pulp fantasy to me?

>> No.10038403

>>10038381
I might be stating the most obvious, and you might've read some of these already. But here's some works that I consider to be quintessential pulp fantasy:
Robert E. Howard's Conan
Robert E. Howard's Solomon Kane
Fritz Leiber's Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser
Jack Vance's Dying Earth
Michael Moorcock's Elric of Melnibone
Karl Edward Wagner's Kane

>> No.10038421

>>10038403
I had missed some of them.

>mfw just realized elric of melniboner is just a wenbovel by another name

>> No.10038452

Going to start Sofia Samatar's "The Winged Histories". Anybody read it yet?

>> No.10038502

>>10038403
>Karl Edward Wagner's Kane
Death Angel's Shadow and Night Winds specifically.

>Michael Moorcock's Elric of Melnibone
He's better off reading the comic adaptions The Ruby Throne and Stormbringer. Even Moorcock admits those comics are better at what he was trying to convey. Plus the art is gorgeous.

>> No.10038546

>>10036853
>>expecting chekov's gun from the author of Just Kidding Rowling

Well yeah.
Rowling gets criticized a lot for her plain prose, simplistic morals and heavy-handed political allegories, but the individual plots (in books 1-4 at least) make for great detective stories. Plenty of elements that first seem like just whimsical magical distractions later turn out to be Chekhov's guns, there's no way I could have seen that shit coming as a kid.

>> No.10038556

>>10036934
Memedation by Isaac Asimov. The setup in the beginning was great but the rest of the book was just pointless events that mostly played out by themselves.
I might give a chance to the second book since people say it's better, but I my hopes aren't as high as before.

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My friend "loves fantasy" but is obsessed with Harry Potter and pic related. He even refuses to read Tolkien. Is there any possible way to wean him off this garbage and help him broaden his horizons? It makes me sad to think about what he's missing out on.

>> No.10038758

>>10037144
Howl's Moving Castle. Amazingly comfy book with great characters.

>> No.10038866

>>10038452
i havent

>> No.10038905

Is anybody torrenting that huge scifi and fantasy collection over on /t/, with 550gb+ of books from the 1930's to the 2000's right now? I am desperately looking for seeders for the 1960's part and the first 60,3 gb 1990's part. Two guys were seeding at lightning speed for a time but they seem to have disappeared. Two more days guys, that is all I need. It sucks when your torrent reads Time remaining: 2years 10 weeks.

Link: >>>/t/680325

>> No.10039023

>>10038632
Have he read ASOIAF? It's closer to Tolkien and other more "serious" fantasy but still mainstream enough for anyone to try. From there you can have him read either Tolkien or some of GRRMs anthologies where he can find other authors he might like (There's a Rothfuss story, that is not that bad, in one of them, which might increase his willingness to read it). Another possible entrance is Neil Gaiman, his books are easy to enjoy and his /lit/ tastes are impeccable, recommend Wolfe to your friend and send him Gaimans guide to reading Wolfe.

>> No.10039124

>>10038057
John C Wright.

>> No.10039131

>>10038905
>550gb+ of books
Probably not

>> No.10039185

>>10038632
About to start pic related. Is it worth it, or should I not even bother?

>> No.10039243

>>10039023
Thanks. He refuses to read ASOIAF too because he thinks he's too intelligent for it. Might do the Gaiman route.

>>10039185
It's absolutely fucking shit and it will make you long for your time back. Don't bother.

>> No.10039258

>>10039185
Read some Gemmell instead, bitch.

>> No.10039278

>>10039185
good books desu

>> No.10039281
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Looking for something like this in that it's character-driven and sometimes gut-wrenching, but also has lots of adventure and excitement.

Bonus points for major character growth, and ideally roughly the same length (3-4 books).

>> No.10039341

>>10039131
That thread is years old and still up. I just don't want my download to take years.

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>>10039341
Those books are goddamn literal textfiles.

>> No.10039379

>>10039185
I haven't read it myself yet, but it's the next thing in my reading list.
From what I've heard people either love it or hate it. So I decided I'll have to take a look at it myself to form an opinion of myself.

>> No.10039387

>>10039346
Not him, but based on age I'd say that many of those books only exist as OCR scans. Do you know otherwise?
I copied the magnet links ages ago, but I don't have enough free space...

>> No.10039405

>>10032673

Tales of a Dying Earth by Jack Vance.

>> No.10039411

Is there a detailed guide to Moorcock out there? Where to start, what order to read shit in, differences between editions, what to skip, that sort of stuff? There must be at least one obsessive Moorcock fansite out there. Also, what kind of name is Moorcock?

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>>10038758

Yes, this is what I thought of too, plus her earlier book Dogsbody.

>> No.10039450

What's some fantasy that features a lot of magical sword fights and action scenes in general besides Sanderson? Science fantasy is fine too, Red Rising was really good for that.

>> No.10039512

>>10039243
>He refuses to read ASOIAF too because he thinks he's too intelligent for it
lol
Tell him about tax policies and send him here. If you're lucky he'll start reading classic sci-fi, Wolfe and cat fantasies. Or he'll start obsessing over Bakker and Malazan.

>> No.10039540

>>10038502
>He's better off reading the comic adaptions The Ruby Throne and Stormbringer.
>tfw frog legs fag has been trying to get everyone to read the "i surrender"'s comic book version of Moorecock's books

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>>10039243
>He refuses to read ASOIAF too because he thinks he's too intelligent for it.
So he is a pseudo intellectual? Send him here to this general. We will cut him down to size.

>> No.10039574

>>10037144
From that pic you want traps. There are no YA books with traps unless you read Japanese stuff.
Just go to sadpanda and use this in the search bar:
language:english male:tomgirl

>> No.10039576

>>10039281
>gut-wrenching
you mean gut-wrenchingly boring?

>> No.10039586

>>10039512
>>10039557
>reads Rothfuss religiously
>isn't a pseudo-intellectual
Of course he is. I think I might do that. You guys can deal with my pleb-ass friend.

>> No.10039592

>>10037144
His Dark Materials. Probably the best there is in kid fantasy and I promise you, nobody will make fun of you for reading it as an adult. Just say you read it as a kid already and are re-reading for the biblical themes.

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>>10039586
I have my charts and dinosaurs ready for him.

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>>10039615
>that Rothfuss image
Is there anything more odious, more disgraceful?

>> No.10039652

>>10039450
Check out White Wolf by Gemmell. Protagonist uses two cursed (magical) swords and it has plenty of action.

>> No.10039666

>>10039185
You're just going to have to jump in and read it yourself. That series in particular is extremely polarizing, you won't get any helpful responses because they'll either be like >>10038632's friend where they think it's great and the savior of fantasy, or like >>10039243 where it literally made their eyes bleed and gave then cancer.

I'm over-exaggerating, but you only have to tone it down by one notch to get an accurate summary of the answers you'll get.

>> No.10039780

>>10039620
Why did a decades old Bug Bunny cartoon become a meme in 2017? If I recall correctly this was a hibernation episode?

>> No.10039788

>>10039780
It's some absurdist /s4s/-tier shit.

>> No.10039873

>>10039666
why is it more polarizing than other fantasy epics?

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Can anyone recommend me some comfy fantasy?

By my definition of comfy I mean:
-no teenagers
-no edgy stuff
-very low on the magic
-no epic battles or high stakes
-no comedy

>> No.10039907

>>10039873
the short answer is because of Kvothe, the main character, and whether he's a Mary-sue self-insert of the author or a brilliant deconstruction of the typical heroic fantasy protagonist. I'm sure that someone from one of the aforementioned camps will explain it soon.

>> No.10039932

>>10039873
The second book is incredibly terrible. It retroactively ruined the pretty decent first.
And it's obvious that the fatass author will never ever finish the series, so any commitment to it it's just going to be fruitless.
So discouraging people from starting it is the only decent thing to do.

>> No.10039934

>>10039907
>brilliant deconstruction of the typical heroic fantasy protagonist
I literally cannot comprehend how someone can be dumb enough to say this. Then again I suppose a turd in a museum is a brilliant deconstruction of the typical classical masterpiece.

>> No.10039980

what're the best sff stories in the public domain? I'm reading H. G. Wells stuff and loving it, anyone got any similar recs?

>> No.10039986

>>10039980
short stories* Reading this stuff in between larger series

>> No.10040073

Tigana is going great so far really nice prose and shit right up my alley

i picked up sabriel recently. what're people's thoughts on it?

>> No.10040186

>>10039980
Check out archive.org, they have got dozens and dozens of scans of the old Galaxy scifi magazine for free. Btw your choice widens considerably if you are willing to consider torrents "public domain" too...

>> No.10040223

>>10039387
>I don't have enough free space.
Dude a 1TB external HDD is under $50 nowadays. That is more than enough for all the books in the collection and probably for a backup of all the data on your computer to boot. You can even buy used ones on ebay. I have done so and am quite happy. People are throwing out all their USB 2.0 stuff and buying 3.0 stuff instead right now, the opportunity has never been better. I can't understand people who don't back up their data in the year of the Lord 2017. My most important stuff (my ebook collection) is quadruple backed up - on my laptop and on three external HDDs.

>> No.10040238

>>10039980
Star Maker + Last and First Men by Olaf Stapledon, two of the best sf novels ever written, public domain in Australia (and Britain?)

>> No.10040246

>>10040073
Sabriel is will liked here but I haven't read it. I liked Keys to the Kingdom which is also by Nix, and Sabriel is supposedly even better.

>> No.10040257

>>10040223
PS if you don't need to carry your data with you you can buy a docking station that takes both cheaper internal HDDs without case and also cheap as dirt used old IDE plug HDDs.

>> No.10040331

>>10040073
pretty rad, best one of the trilogy which is all awesome. 2 spinoffs are meh, Clariel didn't really capture me and Goldenhand needed to be Lirael sized for the last chunk to not be absurdly rushed.

>> No.10040367

Any good heroic fantasy series that are 3-4 books in length and fall somewhere on the darker side of regular fantasy or the lighter side of grimdark?

I don't want authors to pull punches at all but I also don't want grim for the sake of it. Something about on the level of ASOIAF in that respect, only, again, a short-ish heroic fantasy series.

>> No.10040417

>>10040223
>>10040257
Price isn't the issue, I'm afflicted by late-stage terminal laziness.
That and a rural internet connection that varies between 2Mbs and 640Kbps.

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>>10030904
Was Legends the best Dragonlance series?

>> No.10040850

>>10037568
The sunrise found her squatting in the grass....

>> No.10040880

what sci fi author or series has your favorite mythology lore?

>> No.10040907

>>10039281
Try watching cuck porn.

>> No.10040931

>>10040880
Don't lynch me, but 40k, I guess. It's so over the top it's good.

>> No.10040960
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>Playing SWTOR on a RP server
>See a scantily clad Twi'lek
>Pidgin "Basic"
>Childlike mannerisms
>No understanding of personal space
>Nearly zero personal agency
>Find out the character is a thoroughbred slavegirl in training
>Boner inducing RP continues with rampant regularity

The player of that character stopped playing a while ago but the story they created, and how they portrayed their character made my dick more diamonds than it's ever been.

Judge me all you like, but you guys must know of books with characters similar to that? Space Lolitas, almost.

>> No.10041005

>>10040907
How the fuck would that be similar? Because the main character cheats on his girlfriend in the first book?

>> No.10041031

>>10041005
Because the main character is a whiny bitch

>> No.10041044

>>10041031
His growing from a whiny bitch to an adult who accepts that he can't control everything but is willing to work hard for what's important to him is the main arc of the trilogy.

>> No.10041051

>>10040417
>that varies between 2Mbs and 640Kbps
I would sing and dance with joy if I ever got 2MBs. 640-680 is the best I can hope for.
> I'm afflicted by late-stage terminal laziness
So am I, no excuse since amazon will ship shit right to your door.

>> No.10041054

>>10040960
>holdingcellbait
>not carbonitebait

meh

>> No.10041055
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>>10040960
>but you guys must know of books with characters similar to that? Space Lolitas, almost.
Sounds like you need more John Norman in your life ... especially his infamous "slave" books, apparently he couldn't indulge his fetish enough in his normal Gor novels.

>> No.10041100

>>10041051
>I would sing and dance with joy if I ever got 2MBs.
Believe me I still do.
>So am I, no excuse since amazon will ship shit right to your door.
I don't think you understand. My main drive is a 250GB SSD, but I'm only using a 32GB partition because of plans I made for the rest of it. Plans I did not execute but I haven't reclaimed the space in 2 years.

>> No.10041111

>>10041100
>So am I, no excuse since amazon will ship shit right to your door.

>Plans I did not execute but I haven't reclaimed the space in 2 years.

Seems like you have me beat.

>> No.10041115

>>10041087
>Adult woman

Well, I suppose sometimes it's better to drink milk semi-skimmed.

>> No.10041235

>>10041044
His character arc is being a bitch that gets cucked by everything until he learns to accept it and builds an interdimensional cuckshed.

>> No.10041361
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Any of you read this? Had it recommended to me but i'm sceptic about it, looks pretty generic.

>> No.10041394

>>10030904
Anyone here know any good fantasy novels based in a school setting that is not focused towards kids?

>> No.10041403

>>10039896
Infinite Jest
Gravity's Rainbow

>> No.10041408

>>10041394
Name of the Wind

>> No.10041417

>>10040960

I started the Wind Up Girl and it seemed to be going in that direction. For some odd reason I never finished the book.

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>>10041235
Alice was a slut.
And fox trot vagina hole is so used up, and he still whiteknighted and sacrificed himself for her, even after she friendzoned him and fucked dozens (maybe hundreds) of dicks. When she finally offered him some pussy was after she couldn't feel anything because fox god sama made sure her cunt took the shape of his dick.

>> No.10041444

>>10041361
yes, >>10030986 was me, and it's great, worth the read.

>> No.10041456

>>10041361
Prepare for advertisements and product placement.

>> No.10041466

>>10041361
It won the Hugo, Nebula, Locus, and John W. Campbell award for best novel, back when SF was good. Few would share your skepticism. It combines a first person narrative about recovering from guilt, alien treasure hunting, and some memorable minor characters. It's level of psychological observation surpasses Philip K Dick in its focus and intensity.

>> No.10041575

>>10040367
Lyonesse, although it's not really that dark.

>> No.10041600

Did the city at the end of time (Greg bear) shill get me to read a furry novel?

>> No.10041605

>>10039387
>many of those only exist as OCR scans
And also as proofread epubs on the IRC.

>> No.10041606

>>10035891
>it would have made a nice bookend to use the same artifact at the beginning and by the end of the story
>at the beginning
The Goblet of Fire doesn't even get mentioned until around halfway through the book.

>> No.10041657

>>10030930
>referencing Henrietta Street

Hmm...I wonder who this is.

Also, thanks for this, random nobody.

>> No.10041717

So, do you all prefer (particularly in fantasy, but sci-fi too to an extent) when authors built a whole world and then tell a story in it, throwing in lots of asides that add flavor but may not be strictly relevant to the plot, or when authors create enough of the world for the plot to make sense, and gain a bit of focus, possibly at the expense of the "whoa this is like a whole other world" factor?

>> No.10041722

>>10041600
Is it weird furry or is it like Redwall and BoJack Horseman where you have talking animals but it isn't really yiffer bait?

>> No.10041795

>>10041403
I would have suggested Winnie the Pooh, but yours are better.

>> No.10041849

>>10041717
Both are good.

>> No.10041852

What book or series does the best job mixing fantasy (ideally in a secondary world, not our own) and horror?

Especially if it keeps that balance of "oh shit that's horrifying" and "oh shit that was badass" you find in the best sword-and-sorcery.

>> No.10041927

An idea for a science fiction comedy:

Follows the post-colonial goofs and gaffs of three men in a low-income hab-zone of post-colonial Mars/Venus/Luna; 1) a clumsy, gregarious, impulsive and chubby man with a petty temper, lives in his flying car, always in and out of prison for petty theft and drugs, but essentially good-natured and loyal to his friends, family, and shrewish wife, a compulsive masturbator with a garish sense of fashion 2) his childhood friend, slightly older, a man's man, muscular, likes action movies, dresses in black, a cunning schemer driven by money, always coming up with enterprises and deals which fall come apart in execution, with an underlying masculine insecurity/homosexuality complex 3) their slightly younger childhood friend, the conscience of the group, but easily swayed by peer pressure against his better judgement, loves animals, very defensive about his lack of success with the ladies

Put these characters ('the boys') in a PKD-esque milieu of aliens, incompetent cops, alcoholism, telepathy, time travel, predatory homosexuals, local skanks, shabby domiciles and seedy locales and simmer.

>> No.10041930

>>10039980
all of lovecraft is online

>> No.10042027

Is there anywhere online I can get pdfs or epubs of the issues of New Worlds that really pushed forward the new wave of sci-fi?

>> No.10042034

What constitutes "good" action scenes in your experience?
Which authors/books do it best and why?
Are there any literary equivalents to Kung fu movies?
Is there even such a thing as an "action book", like there are action movies? Or is it effectively impossible to extend that long in text without getting boring?

>> No.10042044

>have the Books of the South omnibus
>just finished dreams of steel
>just found out Lady's baby was taken away
>HAVE to keep reading
>turn to the silver spike
>start reading
>wtf is this shit?
>google it
>it's a fucking standalone
>have to wait 2 days for amazon to ship the next book
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT

>> No.10042057

>>10042044
Pranked

>> No.10042059

>>10041466
>back when SF was good

It was published 7 years after Eye of Argon, and in the same year as Star Wars was released.

>> No.10042081

>>10042006

answer please?

>> No.10042090

>>10041722
I don't know. This book is on the level of Malazan book one in the way of not knowing wtf is going on. I'm sure by the end and as more information is released I will get the whole picture.

But to answer your question. From what I read so far one of the dimensions / alternate worlds / pocket reality has a humanoid thing called "the breed". When described they sound like those fursuit wearing faggots, and one of these world hoppers found a female very attractive so he is probably a furry.

>> No.10042092

>>10042081
I thought it was amazing, but I haven't read as much as others on here, so it might not stand up to other post-apocalypse books you've read.

>> No.10042100

>>10041657
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>> No.10042107

>>10042081
Also, stay away from outer /lit/.

>> No.10042111

>>10042090
One character finding a funny animal attractive makes it a furry book?
That kind of fuzzy reasoning makes this a furry general.

>> No.10042119

>>10042111
Also a murderer general and a wizard general. And an alien general.

Not to mention that if furry characters actually existed they would have human intellect and shit, and loving one would be a whole different issue than shoving your fetish in people's faces in a world where they don't actually exist.

>> No.10042121

>>10041795
But Winnie the pooh is filled with the magic of friendship, high stakes battle foe honey, a whiny pree teenager, a tiger high up on so much cocaine that he can't read and is living on the edge, don't forget the donkey that keeps a fake tail attached by means of a buttplug is a born comedian.

>> No.10042122

>>10042107
what do you mean

>> No.10042126

>>10041852
Anything by Clive Barker (stay away from imajica)

>> No.10042134

>>10042119
Most furries seem to fail to realize that animal people were real, the women still wouldn't want to sleep with them because humans don't have weird spiked dicks.

>> No.10042135

>>10042126
>stay away from imajica
It's interesting you say that. My friend who absolutely loves Clive Barker said the same thing, but she also mentioned that it's his most popular.

By the way, should I watch Hellraiser, and if so, should I just watch the first one or how far in the series can you go before it gets shitty?

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>>10041927
Get out.

>> No.10042146

>>10042059
>1977/78
>The New Wave gang Silverberg, PKD, Le Guin et al in their prime
>Golden age stalwarts Heinlein, Clark, Asimov still active
>Even pulp era sensibility remains via Fritz Leiber and Lovecraft/Robert Howard acolytes
>cheap Lin Carter and Terry Carr edited anthologies everywhere
>Frank Frazetta and Michael Whelan book art on them
>Heavy Metal Magazine, 2000AD comics

tell me more about how seventies SFF was bad

>> No.10042151

>>10042122
Outer /lit/ is getting a lot of spillover from /pol/, so it's common nowadays for a thread to devolve into political debates.

/sffg/ is not immune to this unfortunately, but it doesn't happen as often. /pol/lacks seem to avoid us.

>> No.10042153

>>10042059
>Eye of Argon
>2.7/5 Stars on goodreads
That book must be utter shit seeing as you put it in the esteemed company that is that steaming pile: Star wars.

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>>10042151
>/pol/lacks seem to avoid us
I wonder why?

>>10042081
Yea the stand is alright. Read it in December. Gets pretty gri near the end. Hot.

>> No.10042175

>>10042134
I would think that human dick would be better, seeing as we don't have dozens of pins on our dicks to rip up her vag.

>> No.10042176

>>10042081
The first third or so is an incredibly good apocalypse story. The following two thirds are an interesting slightly magical post-apocalypse. The ending is a terrible, literal, deus ex machina.

>> No.10042185

>>10042162
why read it in december?
>Gets pretty gri near the end. Hot.
not sure what any of this means...

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>>10042027
Every old magazine should be searched on archive.org and rutracker and thepiratebay first. Then you check myanonamouse and bibliotik and all the usual places for books I have described multiple times.

If you find a magazine on archive.org (https://archive.org/details/pulpmagazinearchive?and[]=new%20worlds) or some random issue uploaded somewhere you should search for the filename so you can torrent the whole collection instead of one url. So you just found the new worlds magazine on archive.org, you check up the filename (example New Worlds #004v02 (1949)) and google that. if you had done that you would now know that this URL existed: http://archive.is/ppCtB now that you know that that URL existed of the defunct kat.cr YOU NOW KNOW THAT THERE IS AN EXISTING TORRENT (whether seeded or not). Torrents tend to share DHT and peers which means that just because kat.cr is down it doesn't mean that the torrent is no longer seeded, someone may have uploaded the torrent file somewhere else meaning that there are still seeders and peers around and who can find the torrent on other torrent sites. Now you can search via a DHT searchengine or check the big torrent sites first (so we check TPB) for the name of the BIG torrent (because there is no torrent of just new worlds on TPB - you've already checked that!) bam wam, there is the big defunct kat.cr torrent on TPB named the same thing as the kat torrent! https://thepiratebay.org/search/sF%20Fantasy%20Magazines%20Megatorrent/0/99/0

Now you just pray for seeders. How do you know if someone is seeding all parts of the torrent? If the availability is >=1.0. If there's not enough seeders or all of them partial you will need to get it off archive.org, but in general getting stuff off a torrent is easier and you get everything at once (unless the DL speed is shit)

If there is no magazine torrent at all try finding the good individual short stories published in collections and where they are (and then you go through that book finding diagram that I've posted multiple times).

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>>10042175
Oh, the females find spiny bits quite stimulating.

>> No.10042201

>>10042135
I'm a full lit fag. I haven't visited /tv/ since 2010, that is also the year I stop watching tv and shows regularly. I never even saw an ep of GURRM of thrones.

>> No.10042207

>>10042185
GRI = Gay Rape and Incest, the /sffg/ seal of quality.

>> No.10042210

>>10042185
GRI stands for Gay, Rape, and Incest. If an sff book has at least one of these it gets /sffg/'s seal of approval.

Don't have the image with me, but I'm sure an anon can supply it.

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>>10042185
>English isn't my first language
Are you sure you should be tackling a big book like the stand? If you are ESL it might be hard for you.
Btw read = past tense and present tense.

>not sure what any of this means...
Pic related.

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>>10037449
I think I might sound like a bit of a sperg, but Croaker from The Black Company. I share his deep love of history and I'm an absolute sucker for romance subplots. The idea of the big evil bad girl hooking up with some schmuck asshole is pretty much what got me to read the series to start with. It's not something you see often and I love the idea. And while I'm certainly not old like Croaker is, I feel tired too.

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>>10042027
>>10042191
archive.org is pretty cool, but the unorganized layout triggers my autism (since anyone can upload whatever naming style etc.). I found this site a while back that lists every issue with downloads and usually has cover scans of issues that are missing: http://www.luminist.org/archives/SF/
Was saving it for an OP of pulps but got lazy.

>> No.10042319

>>10042263
I wonder now many virgin cunnies he despoiled back in the day.

>> No.10042324

>>10042191
>>10042299
Legends.

>> No.10042325

>>10042263
>The idea of the big evil bad girl hooking up with some schmuck asshole is pretty much what got me to read the series to start with.

Soulcatcher was so fucking hot holy fucking shit

>> No.10042329

>>10042299
What is it about white women that everything in the galaxy wants to kidnap them?

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>>10042299
If all the links are mega links you should be able to download every issue at once with jdownloader 2.

>> No.10042362

>>10042329
Art from life.

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>>10042329
The octopodal lizardman is a tiny bit upset that this pair of iron age throwbacks crashed their stupid rocket into his house.

>> No.10042391

>>10042379
>tfw it's an allegory for miscegenation

>> No.10042394

>>10042329
>Broke: White damsels in distress in genre literature indicate racism of pre-Current Year civilization
>Woke: Fixation of otherworldly creatures on white women follows logically from experience of multiculturalism
>Bespoke: aliens are underprivileged minorities acting out against socially constructed anthropocentric aesthetic standards.

aka WE WUZ AYYYYLIENZ N SHIT

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>>10042151
It's more that /sffg/ is implicitly uncucked because it isn't popular enough to have been weaponized against huwhite people yet. We're still here, there's just nothing Jewish enough to warrant being upset about.
Well, almost nothing.

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>>10039185
It's not terrible, it's more like strictly mediocre. Parts of it can be entertaining and parts of it (the entire love-interest plotline) are infuriating.

One thing I thought was pretty funny is that the protagonist literally gives a purple rendition of the "you might be the one pounding my wife's pussy but at the end of the night when she's cuddling with me, which one of us is the loser?" pasta, except it's done totally unironically and without a hint of self-awareness.

Kvothe is a cuck. A cuck!

>> No.10042677

I just read the short story The Star Virus and it's turned me on to Barrington J. Bailey.

Do you all know/like him?

>> No.10042726

>>10037285
>The Plot Against America
He said good not neocon circlejerking.

>> No.10042747

>>10042299
Make the next thread then and do your memeing.

>> No.10042805

>>10042747
I knew I shouldn't have opened my mouth.
Anyways, fresh thread:
>>10042802
>>10042802
>>10042802
>>10042802