/lit/ - Literature

Awwwwww fuck.

this is the worst thing to ever happen to this board

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

FUCK YES VICTORY

FUCK YOU.

fuck you man

i'm okay with this

Ahaha. Well, I'm glad that it wasn't spam.

>>1000000

CYBERPUNK IS GO.

But all we'd talk about is Neuromancer

Fuck you

>999999
i was close enough

fuck off

son of a fuck.

Even if you win the rat race, you're still a rat.

You have your GET, now go.

Fuck that.

fuck off

IMOKWITHTHIS.jpg

GODDAMN YES FUCK YEA

>>1000000

/lit/ wins, that's right. Fuck off /b/tards.

Damn, better read some more Gibson.

I rather hate you.

>captcha: dignify questions

And I tried to make GET Lolita...

you are all gay nerds

Sounds kind of exciting.

>>1000000
Moot must now provide everyone on lit with free kindle or other e-readers

eh could be worse. Fuck yeah PKD UP IN THIS

goddommot

>>1000042
wait wut

>>999999

out of curiosity

Absolutely not.

She chooses a better subject than she does a story. I barely gave a shit about osme of hte characetrs by the time the seventh book rollde around.

Harry was a mainstay, though. What he did always mattered and he was never unlikable.

2 mil GET

Fuck off.

What the fuck OP? Cyberpunk? Seriously?

Well done.

>>1000076
Instead, Henry David Thoreau is king of /lit/.

I approve of this great success, time to collect the royalties!

Muahahahaaa!!

/lit/ MEET YOUR NEW MASTER.

>>1000075
HOLY COCKSUCKING JESUS.

Crisis fucking averted.

>>1000088
Fuck no. Marcus Aurelius is Emperor of /lit/.

>fucking delicious captcha: at rome

>>1000061

Thank God you failed.

If yo uliked reading about the Spanish Civil War, Antony Beevor's "aBttle for Spain" is a comprehensive overview of the politisc from all sides.

Okay, now this is awesome.

Just hope moot actually does it...

>>1000001

For another taste of what might of been.

>>1000095

We can have a King and an Emperor, like the Habsburgs.

>>1000099
I hate you. I really do.

>>1000100
Goat fucking Muhammad we dodged a lot of bullets today.

RADICAL!

>>1000000

LOL I didn't know William Gibson was a MOD on 4chan.

Should have suspected.

mfw GET

Why did the worst tripfag in all of /lit/ have to get the get?

WHY?

Why not some other less annoying tripfag....or even the damn spambot!

>>1000100
*might have

KING OF /LIT/

one could be even more of a hipster faggot

>>1000095
Considering an empire contains many kingdoms, then it's possible for both to exist.

Henry David Thoreau for King of /lit/, any dissenters?

>>1000113
THERE'S ALWAYS THE 10 000 000 GET. JUST GOT TO WAIT A FEW YEARS

>>1000113
>worst tripfag got the get
Ahem...
>>999999
>>1000001

Hey guys, what cyberpunk should I read other than Gibson?

Jorge Luis Borges is the king of /lit/.

>>1000120
post really hard and fast and maybe it'll only take 1

>>1000118
I dissent. Thoreau would have never accepted the position of King.

>cyberpunk board
>cyber punk board
>cp board
>/cp/

I am okay with this?

>>1000000

I think this is an excellent idea.

>>1000115
He say you Brade Runner

Who is into cyberpunk????

What are you 13?

I'm sick of these damn nerds infesting /lit/ with their pathetic excuse for literature.

>>1000127

It would double as a trap

Oh for fuck's sake.

WELL ANYWAY, sup, /cyberpunk/?

>>1000129
tell em i'm eating

>>1000127
yes

I approve of this get and its implications.

my face when cyberpunk get

>>1000126
An anarchist as king, it's brilliant.

does anyone have that cyberpunk poem parody pic, the one about the shit

>Implying that cyberpunk is literature

Cybers are for greek boats men. This is now a bronzeage cyberpunk thread- agripunk go...the sky over Troy was grey, like the colour of a Hellene channelling a dead god.

Neuromancer approves of this thread

>>1000152
you mean this?

>>1000000
i've seen GETS you..people..wouldn't believe

Psychic Heroine-Addicted Dolphins.

>>1000161
ya thanx

my captcha approves of this

Btw, one good film adaption doesn't justify an entire shit genre.

>>1000162

When we reach Page 15, all these posts will be lost like... tears in rain.

CYBERPUNK ALL DAY ERRYDAY

>>1000173
time to die

>>1000169
u mad steampunk faggpt?

someone archive this shit

>>1000123
is there cyberpunk other than gibson? lol

The Diamond age was supposedly good

>>1000169
Everything is shit man.
Pick any Genre and I will guarantee you that 90% of whats been published in it is garbage.

>>1000179
Steampunk doesn't even have a decent film adaption lol. In fact, steampunk doesn't even really exist. No one has yet made a single significant steampunk work.

>>1000181
phillip k. motherfukin dick.

Could this be the one time I actually care about a get?!
No. No it couldn't.

>>1000181
OHAITHAR

holy fuck.....it happened......

>>1000182
But most genres at least have their jewels. Cyberpunk is essentially a genre created by nerds that longed to be hipsters but were too clouded by their left brained mathematical thinking to actually come up with decent shit.

>>1000000

>>1000187
accoding to reliable internet resource Wikipedia the book Against the Day by Thomas Pynchon is a steampunk novel, literary mastery dense and steeped in allusion

>>1000187
>Steampunk doesn't even have a decent film adaption lol.

Howl's Moving Castle, herp derp

>In fact, steampunk doesn't even really exist.

DERP DERP

>No one has yet made a single significant steampunk work.

Derpasaurus.

>>1000187
OHAITHAR

>>1000169
Strange days was actually pretty good. The original Ghost in the shell OVA was pretty good.

and of course, Blade Runner is a classic. One of my favourite films of all time

>>1000200
Not What I'd Call Significant

>>1000199
those are not films, they are anime its like what lady gaga is to wagner

>>1000199
Animu. Doesn't. Count. lmfao.

>>1000188

Not really.

>>1000205
C'mon now, wake up, stay alert, this is /lit/ not /b/. It shouldn't have been that easy for me.

Baroque cycle is good

are we archiving this? I already emailed moot about changing /lit/ to /cp/

i thought pkd was paranoid fiction

>>1000211

>This film was produced in Japan

>4chan hates Japan, right?

>DIS FILM R BAD

0.5/10

Go back to /co/ please.

Nobody has made a good steampunk film because it's not possible. Steampunk is fan service from head to toe.

At least cyberpunk had something to say, though it shot it's load in just one stroke.

>>1000217

Uh lol I dunno what your rambling about but baroqoue is that one shitt ygenre of music.

I may or may not have just thrown up in my mouth.

>>1000215
Lol I enjoyed FMA. No trolling there.

>>1000234
Cyberpunk is just like, so deep, man!

>>1000222
triples

lets do this shit

>>1000237
Yeah so did I (but the new is complete crap)

Cancer.

favorite cyberpunk authors:
1.phillip k. dick
2. william s. burroughs
3. Gilles Deleuze
4. William Gibson

>>1000244
the new fma, it sucks

You know what's going to happen? This board will get flooded with Gibson trolling and discussion about him will get banned from /lit/. It'll be Ayn Rand all over again.

>Changing /lit/ to cp

You do realize that everyone who comes here is going to be looking for child porn, right?

>>1000223
What the hell, it's a grandfather genre to cyberpunk

therefore win

>>1000235

Have you heard my Passacaglia and Fugue in C Minor? Yeah, it's pretty much the greatest piece of music you've ever heard on your entire life.

>>1000246
never heard of the first and last ones, sorry

>>1000228
>On a lit board talking books
>People bring up steampunk
>I claim there is no decent steampunk literature
>Everyone screams "ANIMU"
>You get butthurt that I'm disregarding it b/c "we're all supposed to be weeaboos in 4chan"

Really now?

>>1000250
One of the reasons why it's fucking awesome

Oh, how I wish the Jogo guy was the get T_T

>>1000250
I came here for Lewis Carroll's photography.

>>1000254
Gonna have to back up this fellow here.

Then again, internet argument, so you know.

>>1000252
Congratz for naming two of the most well known pieces of Baroque music and flaunting them as unknown.

>>1000268
>flaunting them as unknown
Did you even read his post?

I can count every good cyberpunk novel on one finger.

>>1000268

Well this tripnigger obviously never heard them, or he wouldn't be ragging on my broski.

>>1000223
>implying you cant be both

>>1000252

Zeek's a bizarre troll from a while back, let him be.

>>1000275
I will say that Baroque is one of the greatest genres in music history. Vivaldi's the shit & so are Rameau and Purcell.

lolwat

I can live with this

>>1000279
>bizzare troll from a while back
>doesn't even appear on the post count list on green oval

>>1000275
>broski
You mean "Barosqui," right? Right?

>>1000278
have you read anything other than androids? most of pkd's work is not cyberpunk at all, just have a look at the man in the high castle, time out of joint, eye int he sky, the many who japed, etc

>>1000254
You didn't say there was no good Steampunk literature, you said there were no decent films, then you said there was not a single decent Steampunk work. And then you implied that to enjoy watching an anime makes one wapanese. If you disregarded it because you had some genuine complaints with some aspects of the film, or even if you pointed out that a book board isn't the place for discussing movies, that would be fine, but you defaulted to "JAPAN R BAD LOL WEEABOOS"

Also, you say "lol". And "lfmao". Try not to do that if you want to get taken seriously.

But I digress. In response to your claim that there is no decent Steampunk literature, I say, learn to Jules Verne.

And yes. Imad.

>>1000274
I can count every great cyberpunk novel on one fist.

>>1000292
>count list on green oval

Okay, I need some explanation here.

>>1000297
A Scanner Darkly is god-tier cyberpunk. Also William S Burroughs invented cyberpunk amirite?

>>1000292
trolling =/= number of posts

Quality over quantity bro.
Just spouting stupid nonsense like you do doesn't make you a troll it makes you a dumbass attention whore. Trolling is a subtle art.

>>1000217
>>1000246
the sky above the bay was pink like the colour of a soft machine tuned to the anal mucousa of tamil boys flying in on ultralights ejaculating as they were hung, laotian boys frigging themselves to the lyrics of neo-anarchist agendas, pirate norwegian lads the colour of transopiate sunsets in melbourne hypothesising new theses of religious transcendence across the bellies of junk sick modulated hypnagogic highs induced by white subsaharan political misceginators and the trilling beat of Slovenian philosophers hugging the dusty balls of sweaty mongol overlords while chewing khat.

>>1000297
So, since not all of his work was cyberpunk, it must follow that none of his work can possibly be cyberpunk?

FUCK YOU>>1000000
>>1000000

>>1000307
>captcha: Archived of
a sign from above

ITT - nerds who wouldn't know good lit if it bit them on their collective ass

>>1000308
no i just dont think his writing fits the cyberpunk genre as much as general science fiction.
>>1000304
a scanner darkly is not cuberpunk at all, its just fiction, god tier literature at that

>>1000322
what about A scanner darkly is not cyberpunk? what standards are you using? Does not compute.

>>1000322
Im sorry Im a little confused.
What definition of cyberpunk are we operating under?

>>1000301
Rather, I said there "isn't even a decent film adaption": film implying live action. But when I mentioned the steam punk "works", I was obviously referring to a literary work as we are in /lit/.

As for your final accusation, in order to not sound like a neck-beard starbucks sipping /lit/ hipster, I occasionally use colloquialisms like "lol" or "lmfao". We're on the internet and on a 4chan board so I'd definitely argue that it's acceptable.

>>1000322
CUBERPUNK YOU SAY?

Dante's Inferno is my favorite cyberpunk.

I don't bother myself with what is and is not cyberpunk because I'm less concerned with categorization that I am with reading good literature.

Just a thought.

>>1000304
>Implying there can be a god tier for a genre that's pure shit to begin with

>>1000328
>>1000327
cuberpunk = high tech + low life

a scanner darkly is not a book about technology it is a book about DRUGS, as someone put it pkd is literature for drug nerds

>>1000337
>implying that he has read any cyberpunk

>>1000234
>At least cyberpunk had something to say, though it shot it's load in just one stroke.

Yeeeep, that sounds about right.

>>1000344
ugh. it features technology so heavily it is not even funny. the scramble suit? also, drugs are technology, sweety. especially Death. that isn't even around yet..although i theorized it was a addictive synthesis of opiates and DXM...nevertheless..

>>1000331

>Rather, I said there "isn't even a decent film adaption": film implying live action.

Last I checked, "film" meant "film", not "live-action film".

>But when I mentioned the steam punk "works", I was obviously referring to a literary work as we are in /lit/.

Or you know, you can completely ignore the part of my last post that cited Jules Verne as good Steampunk literature, that's fine too.

>>1000349
technology is not the focus of the book, addiction and paranoia is

>>1000357
Actually, I completely looked over it. But I didn't even think to address it considering Jules Verne wrote no steampunk literature.

Just want to point out that cyberpunk has been essentially dead since like 1989 or 1990 and that anything published after that is either a parody, a conscious imitation, or simply an intellectual heir of cyberpunk as such. Similarly, nothing published before roughly 1980 or 1981 (when Gibson's early stories were published in Omni) is actually cyberpunk - more of an ancestor or influence.

Also, read Bruce Sterling + Wm Gibson + John Shirley + Pat Cadigan errday

>>1000360
the paranoia is highly derived from the presence of technology, technology and surveillance society are major features in the book. the drugs are the low life part, of course.

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>>1000335
The sky over the mid part of my life was dark, like being lost in a forest persued ever onwards by beasts.

>>1000368
i agree with that statement, however the same can be said of brave new world and 1984 (minus the drugs), however noone is claiming that garbage to be cyberpunk

>>1000375
well, i don't think BNW has enough of the ''low life'' aspect.

This is probably the longest thread in /lit/ history.

Just want to point out that if you claim that Phillip K Dick is fucking cyberpunk you literally know nothing about science fiction and need to get the fuck out, thanks

captcha: William beatnik

>mfw william s. burroughs Nova Express is the first steampunk novel

>>1000385
nope. threads about postmodernism or marxism are always longer.

>>1000391
What we need is more Zizek threads because he's both a postmodernist and a "marxist".

>>1000381
Did it even HAVE a low life aspect? That indian colony does not count

>>1000385
C-C-CYBERPUNK

>>1000381
you best be trolling, hightech lowlife was painfully obvious in BNW. the two main characters were binary opposites, john savage wtf

ahem
>mfy when William S. Burroughs Nova Express is the first Cyberpunk novel and noone seems to notice

>>1000363
Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea?
Journey to the Centre of the Earth?
From the Earth to the Moon?

All Juels Verne.

And there's also The Time Machine, by H.G. Wells.

And the literature written in modern times. Airborn (Kenneth Oppel) is a good example.

>>1000396
it's lowlife, not savage life. there is a difference

>>1000388
Lets continue to argue about arbitrary classifications of literature. Im sure we will all gain great wisdom and insight from this conversation.

>>1000397
Please see >>1000307

Also, I wish to decapitate you for my Feminist Womb Queen Overlords, prepare your anus, the binoculars of the people will do nothing for your Tibet.

>>1000403
See >>1000336

>>1000404
i'm into whatever you're into, baby

>>1000393
The sky over Ljubljiana was black, white, and red like the colour of Neue Slowenische Kunst tuned to a dead socialist modernist aesthetic. Zizek watched the lights of Paris and Harvard glittering in the distance like so many dead Bosnian children resurrected by hard voiced BBC journalists and made to dance like the puppets of failed liberal democracy.

>>1000393
zizek is also cyberpunk. or am i thinking of badrillard?

>>1000412

Brüderfaust

One bump before going to sleep.

Do me a favour and e-mail mootles, /lit/ could really benefit from having a special event like this. It's stuff like this that makes 4chan a fun and unpredictable place to be

>>1000446
the thing is, moot doesn't give a fuck about /lit/ because no one actually posts here

captcha: the louvers

>>1000446
>Stupid "gets" are unpredictable

Rest assured, good anon, these will always be around.

>>1000465
The sky over /lit/ was #FFFFEE like a board tuned to a dead chan.

>>1000000

gg tripfag

cyberpunk this shit up

YOU CAN'T HACK THE GIBSON.

The sky over the Gibson was grey, like the colour of a newfag tuned to a dead meme.

>>1000617
What do you mean? I got the garbage file

>>1000650
William Gibson so badly wishes to fuck the girl with kaleidoscope eyes, ""Lighten up. You want to buy some good free base?" She pulled up a chair and quickly sat before either of them could stop her. She was barely inside my fixed field of vision, a thin girl with mirrored glasses, her dark hair cut in a rough shag. She wore black leather, open over a T-shirt slashed diagonally with stripes of red and black. "Eight thou a gram weight.""

Taylor and I don't get along. Funny how you usually don't, if the guy's psychosexual profile is too much like your own.

Heaven was built after a dead Frenchman returned with a twelve-centimeter ring of magnetically coded steel locked in his cold hand, black parody of the lucky kid who wins the free ride on the merry-go-round. We may never find out where or how he got it, but that ring was the Rosetta stone for cancer. So now it's cargo cult time for the human race. We can pick things up out there that we might not stumble across in research in a thousand years. Charmian says we're like those poor suckers on thier island, who spend all thier time building landing strips to make the big silver birds come back. Charmian says that contact with "superior" civilizations is something you don't wish on your worst enemy.

wut the fuck

>>1000617
HACK THE PLANET! HACK THE PLANET!

>>1000000
Johnny Mnemonic: What the fuck is going on? WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON? You know, all my life, I've been careful to stay in my own corner. Looking out for Number One... no complications. Now, suddenly, I'm responsible for the *entire fucking world*, and everybody and his mother is trying to kill me, IF... IF... my head doesn't blow up first.
Jane: Maybe it's not just about you any more.
Johnny Mnemonic: Listen. You listen to me. You see that city over there? THAT'S where I'm supposed to be. Not down here with the dogs, and the garbage, and the fucking last month's newspapers blowing *back* and *forth*. I've had it with them, I've had it with you, I've had it with ALL THIS - *I want ROOM SERVICE*! I want the club sandwich, I want the cold Mexican beer, I want a $10,000-a-night hooker! I want my shirts laundered... like they do... at the Imperial Hotel... in Tokyo.

>>1001382

I need to get online! I NEEED! A compuuUter!

>>1001382
One film where Keanu was suited perfectly to act as lead

Just look at that face. One cold corporate motherfucker

Constantine and Johnny Mnemonic are basically the exact same film, only one has cyberspace and the other has Hell.

Johnny Mnemonic was better than The Matrix.

>>1001404
why not have both?

>mfw /lit/ is cyberpunk

However.

>mfw /lit/ is quoting Johnny Mnemonic the MOVIE.

We need to talk, /cyberpunk/.

>>1001426
>implying ghost in the shell is even cyberpunk
I never got that, it certainly had CYBER, but part of the appeal was it had no PUNK. Still pretty goo film series

>>1001437

Well let's start by examining what makes cyberpunk "cyberpunk."

Frequent themes in the genre include:

- Transhumanism
- Cybercriminals
- Overpowered corporations
- Gritty or crime-ridden society
- Disaffected hero or anti-hero

Like: Neuromancer. Meets all of the above.
Ghost in the Shell hits all the points but the anti-hero. Ghost in the Shell is a cyberpunk story told from the perspective of the government employee rather than the rogue or the hacker. IIRC, Do Androids Dream...? was also about a government employee..

Goodmorning /cp/ I have a question: Is cyberpunk a different genre for fiction, because our real lives have come to resemble it too closely?

>>1001453
meant to make a new thread...i'll just go and do that now

>>1001453

I think the point of cyberpunk is that it's a genre of science fiction that isn't too far a throw from our current situation. It's still a "what if?" scenario, of course, so it's still sci-fi.

>>1000000
bump

>>1001444
But was it really? I recall reading a book on science fiction by a university prof one time, and what he basically said was that Cyberpunk was a tiny movement that grew by claiming just about every science fiction work ever made fit into the genre. Even blade runner, when you think about it has very little to do with the urban criminal atmosphere of Gibson-style cyberpunk.

But what the hell, I like GITS, I like Blade Runner. They’re /cyberpunk/ enough for me

>>1001453
Eh. If anything technology has advanced past the cyberpunk level, but our society isn't exactly as corrupt as what is portrayed

>>1001503
>technology has advanced past the cyberpunk level
>no flying cars
>no Matrix

Congrats this board is OFFICIALLY dead.

>>1001513
ohshi-

yeah, you have me there. I'm thinking of all the 80's domestic technology they have, but indeed you are correct

I thought cyberpunk was basically a world where we've overpopulated, overpoluted and over-advanced ourselves to the point where psychologically we can barely adapt to the sights and sounds around us or even form a moral paradigm that isn't so antiquated it can't apply or so open and liberal that we can't see dangers ahead of us.

Cyberpunk is basically really depressing reactionary sci-fi.

>>1001531
this man has a point. Probably the reason why it was so popular

bampf

Cyberpunk is to literature as nickleback is to quality music

>>1002016
keep bein' middlebrow alla time and thinkin it makes you mature, my friend

>>1002016
Both are the best.

>>1002016
cyberpunk is a genre, nickleback is a group

try again

>Cyberpunk get
TAKE THE RED PILL FUCK THIS SHIT

>>999999

Just out of curiosity...

>>1001503
Except the entire genre was constructed by advertisers and publishers, not authors. I can't recall one "cyberpunk" author that actually acknowledged the genre. Most of them hated it when people called their work cyberpunk. They almost all considered themselves to be science fiction authors, and some didn't even accept that.

Kind of like how when the Grunge genre of music came around, none of the bands in it considered themselves or their music to be Grunge. They all just considered themselves to be musicians.

so....what's the appeal for this stuff? guns when you got lasers is retarded.

>>1002644

lazers that can actually hurt people take a lot of energy

>>1001415
Lain must be around eighty five, and you can tell from his eyes that he's raped and murdered.

Lain gives me the fucking creeps, especially the way he set up his quasi-autonomous unit in a thirteen year old girl in order to achieve gnosis.

You will never fly a microlight, screaming through the Tomsk night, with a primitive Deck and ICE strapped to the S/SGT Specialist behind you in order to take down a Soviet data complex, only to be wiped out by lasers, and eventually fly a high-jacked assault helicopter to Finland, being shredded at 10m off the ground by an archaic anti-aircraft gun, before being slowly reconstructed as a persona in a French mental hospital by an Artificial Intelligence that just wants to fuck its brother.

;_;

>>1003026
>an Artificial Intelligence that just wants to fuck its brother.
wat

Can't believe I'm the first to mention this...


Also steampunk does not deserve to be mentioned in the same thread as cyberpunk.

>>1002636
Wait, wait, wait. Did you just seriously claim that Bruce Sterling wouldn't call himself "cyberpunk"? I mean, yes, most of the legitimate cyberpunk authors would make the point that they were writing cyberpunk, but it was clearly a distinct, real, separate movement within science fiction. But it was a very small, very short movement.

/thread