/lit/ - Literature

do they exist? how does one find and join them? also share your bookclub experiences

the only truly nice book-related "club" i was in was a private tiny chat that didnt actually read books together

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i prefer sartre over camus
read Stranger, Plague and Myth (dropped about 60% in, very interesting thoughts but writing was bad, maybe it's the translation) none impressed me

What are the reasons why fantasy and sci/fi people say are devoid of literary merit?

It's there any online course or math book that teaches math like they taught in ancient greece and was formally taught until the modern era?

I think my issue with math education is mostly a methodological one, and I don't like the modern style of math education.

I wonder if wildberger follows the ancient methods of teaching.

How do u define the value of a work of art in economic terms?

It contradict both the marxist theory of labour and both the austrian denition of supply and demand.

A piece of art takes more effort to a begginer than the same time when he's a master.
It took me 2 days to make crappy drawing when today I can make a much better drawing in 5 minutes.

So over time, the effort I put into a drawing should less, since is easier to me now.
So by this logic the price of my drawings should be lower, since they take less time and effort to make.
But in reality the older I become, the higher I could charge for them.

Also, the austrian supply and demand doesn't work either.
That would imply that pop radio trash has higher value than a more avant garde piece of jazz, because the demand is higher, then their value should be higher.
But this would mean that shades of gray has an infinite value compared to more skilled writers that are only known in academia, like Lord byron or chaucer.

It's absurd to pretend the demand of a product determines it's economic price.
What value has demand of the product over it's aesthetical value.

It's absurd to think that demand determines the aesthetical value of a product, even if my crappy drawings I made when I was a begginer has less value under the marxist theory than modern drawings of mine, and they have less value under the supply and demand argument, they still have infinite personal value to me and I would never sell them, at any price, while I could easily sell a better drawing I can make today by a lot more price, but the newer drawing has less personal value to me than the older one, even if It has less demand from customers and I see it as a worse drawing than the modern ones.

Which is a contradiction of both definitions.

I see a fatal issue on every political ideology.

Not a single ideology can solve the issue of having a slave caste.
Like any ideology, any, even the most retarded ones can easily work if you have a slave caste.

Machines are just an artificial form of a slave caste, which means they also have some form of food needs (combustible, energy) and they have also some form of reproduction (being made in a factory).

I think is impossible to have a society free of explotation (AKA not having a slave caste).
Any attempt to remove this from marxists and other ideologies like ancap fails because you need a slave caste, and if you give everyone the freedom to not be a slave, who wants to be by their own choice in this slave caste, and then society stops because it lacks a slave caste that will maintain society.

Capitalism seems to have sort of solved this in the sense is voluntary, like every citizen becomes part of this slave caste because of the profit motive, like capitalism try to reward being a slave, so it uses human greed of the most productives males to channel them into being a voluntary slave caste.

At least capitalism gives the slaves the illusion of social mobility and freedom to choose their slave ocupation and the slaves get a reward, at least in monetary terms.

The alternative is to remove the profit motive and just become another system with a non voluntary slave caste (like pretty much any non capitalist society).

Why the learning of the craft of any art is viewed as negative by artists and even by professional artists?

I keep telling anyone who wants to learn writing, drawing, 2D animation, music composition to learn the most of their craft theory.

And always there's a disdain to learn the fucking craft of those art.
It's something that really confuses me.

Where did this antintelectualism comes from?

And most of the compositions, and writing and drawings from the guys that tell me to not learn the craft are really filled with begginer mistakes, and their idols who they claim didn't needed to learn the theory are so basic I don't see as impressive and they're also filled with begginer mistakes.

What does it take to get into a top-ranked English PhD program?

Ok, here's my game plot.
I'm making a sort of basic JRPG.

Basically the story is inspired by chrono trigger, where a guy wakes up in a farm and has to go to the priestess temple where someone should know what he could do.
There's a big monster big boss in the final temple, which if you defeat you win the game.
You eventually meet some farmer girl twins who help you in the levels, and another party members.

The story has elements from chrono trigger, which is time travel, and you travel to diferent time periods, which change the towns visuals and you can change some stuff to see how it grows in the other time periods (like planting a tree, or when a dog sacrifices to help you, he becomes a hero in the later time periods).

The story is the party goes to diferent towns, every town has a diferent minor arc in the story where you help to solve some issue in the town and help the people there, which will reward you with some item you need to defeat the final boss.

But at some points in the story, you go to sleep and wake up in a nightmare, like a horro game, inspired by silent hills where you die to the final boss or you kill a member of your party.
You wake up scared neverless in a diferent time period.
Ironically there's some characters in every time period which are basically clones of each other, but they have diferent traits and personalities.

There's also an anti hero villain who mocks you but you don't know why he tries to make the MC stronger or help him overcome obstacles, but you know he's evil for some reason.
In the end you defeat him next to the big boss, but as his final attack, his memories now enter the mind of the MC, and he wakes up again at the beggining of the game, but he's now the villain he defeated previously.
The MC eventually goes insane and becomes the villain in the story, because he realizes he's inside some game or story that loops.

It's capitalism moral?

Why do marxists hate the free market yet support the free sexual market?

Is a claseless society even possible?

How can arrive without the need for a state?
Asking this for commies and anarchists.

How does this society even organize their resources in some way without some kind of organization, let's say artisans coops and have them cooperate nationally, much less globally without the formation of basically big powerful lobbies (corporations) that will basically make the formation of a proto state or feudal system?

How can u avoid the formation of wealthy families or dinasties or groups or bourgueoise or whatever you call it, because of the simple fact of labour specialization combined with supply and demand (and making some skills more in demand and more valuable than others).

>inb4 the state can demand more workers in some area
No, that's not how it works, you can't simply put more brown people into math and engineering, because IQ is biological.

I'm sure there are guys here who have read some anarchists or commies literature.
These are my major questions to them.

It's getting a publishing deal something so dificult and hard that less than 0.1% of people will succeed or is because 99.9% of retards who submit to agents are literal dogshit?

Why there's so many females in literature?

https://news.gallup.com/poll/184631/latin-americans-lead-world-emotions.aspx

Is latinoamerican literature the most emotional literature of all?

What's the average IQ of genius writers in the cannon?

like shakespeare, dante, voltaire, etc.

How much IQ do u need to be a genius writer of literature?

How many people dictate what goes and doesn't go in the cannon?

How do I write in the style of post modern academical garbage?

How old were diferent lit genius writers when they started to write?

Explain to me what's wrong with romance novels.

Would girls love a romance novel that is basically nine diferent romance novels mixed togheter where some stereotipical young rebel school brown tanned guy related to nine diferent girls but the chapters are told from every girl POV and is baiscally how all the girls fall in love with him?

I want to write the best harem anime story ever made.

It's basically a sci fi fantasy story where the only survivors of a settler coloner ship accident find themselves in a new unknown place, where there's hostile little green gnomes and the MC is some tanned version of Guts from berserk and every loli comes from a diferent part of IRL world, where every one is a stererotype of a IRL civilization, and everyone speaks a diferent language.

In the end they grow over the story and form a relationship with the guy.

/g/ has several guides on self teaching yourself a CS degree
Why lit hasnt made similars self teaching guides for an entire philosophy and literature phd?

At least a shitty wiki on this.