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because intelligence.

we don't want barbarism. and as much as Ellen Chen will play up the virtues of the Tao and will prefer counting with knotted cords, i like washing machines, dentistry, and pharmacology (both medicinal and recreational). i also like the Internet, hot meals on airplanes, and the MAME emulator.

so it has to be a qualified rejection, but this of course is really the Wild Ride's music. how *much?* even in a Mad Max scenario, i would very much like to have, for example, a nice cluster of machine gun nests (if not a remote controlled laser-equipped satellite death ray) and other things. full-scale rejection of tech is not really an option for me, and even Stiegler - who is skeptical about many aspects of tech - makes a pretty convincing case for civilization in some sense as being commensurate with technological progress.

it's the *culture* that is stagnating, and with it, the people. we are becoming decadent moral hypochondriacs and losing our minds, and our politics are becoming more extreme, more polarized, and radical as a result, because we have been made *comfortable.* the Matrix is a meme film but the basic tenets of it are not. i don't want to reject tech all the way, i want to live in a cool and funky world with lots of it. it's just that the demands of tech to render itself ever more convenient tends to have pretty powerful warp effects on technology. and these have been diagnosed by Baudrillard and Land, each in their own ways, along with Marty Glass and all of the guys he references too.

we need a right relation with tech, not a rejection, imho. Landian acceleration basically just cuts out the brakes and hurtles towards the future at full throttle. this has its appeal, no doubt, but in the end it becomes the Wild Ride. we all get sucked in and the dialectic goes completely out of control (however you understand the dialectic to work, if at all).

>>11989026
you have to ask? we're coming up on the ninth installment of this thing. have you read Land? you can't ask for a more perfect representative of theory-as-Ultraviolence than Young Nick in '92. it's true that he's become a meme today, but still. read Baudrillard. read Nietzsche. read Deleuze. read them all. you will believe the hype. try Symbolic Exchange and Death and Fanged Noumena, if you just want to feel absolutely fucking horrified and seduced at the same time. hell, just read Spengler and watch him throwing lightning from the mountain top, you could do a whole thread just on Epic Spengler One-Liners.

Capitalism is some wild stuff anon. and the philosophers who write on it well will not disappoint you. i'm a fucking complete loser Scum-Ass in real life, i'm boring as hell. but the good writers are awesome.

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