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I'm starting to think that the cause of all my woes is post-industrial society

> 124. The usual response to such concerns is to talk about “medical ethics.” But a code of ethics would not serve to protect freedom in the face of medical progress; it would only make matters worse. A code of ethics applicable to genetic engineering would be in effect a means of regulating the genetic constitution of human beings. Somebody (probably the upper-middle class, mostly) would decide that such and such applications of genetic engineering were “ethical” and others were not, so that in effect they would be imposing their own values on the genetic constitution of the population at large. Even if a code of ethics were chosen on a completely democratic basis, the majority would be imposing their own values on any minorities who might have a different idea of what constituted an “ethical” use of genetic engineering. The only code of ethics that would truly protect freedom would be one that prohibited ANY genetic engineering of human beings, and you can be sure that no such code will ever be applied in a technological society. No code that reduced genetic engineering to a minor role could stand up for long, because the temptation presented by the immense power of biotechnology would be irresistible, especially since to the majority of people many of its applications will seem obviously and unequivocally good (eliminating physical and mental diseases, giving people the abilities they need to get along in today’s world). Inevitably, genetic engineering will be used extensively, but only in ways consistent with the needs of the industrial- technological system. [20]

We can all make it bros

https://youtube.com/watch?v=BBX5qh09OIE

Also, recommend me some (guide)books on survival in the wilderness

>>17045034
Was Uncle Ted right?

>>16870278
I want to move away from society too, but I want to keep my books and my musical instruments. I will just save money until I can buy some land and move to the countryside.

>>16382780
> 202. It would be hopeless for revolutionaries to try to attack the system without using SOME modern technology. If nothing else they must use the communications media to spread their message. But they should use modern technology for only ONE purpose: to attack the technological system.

>>15233213
The techies may answer that even if almost all biological species are eliminated eventually, many species survive for thousands or millions of years, so maybe techies too can survive for thousands or millions of years. But when large, rapid changes occur in the environment of biological species, both the rate of appearance of new species and the rate of extinction of existing species are greatly increased. Technological progress constantly accelerates, and techies like Ray Kurzweil insist that it will soon become virtually explosive; consequently, changes come more and more rapidly, everything happens faster and faster, competition among self-prop systems becomes more and more intense, and as the process gathers speed the losers in the struggle for survival will be eliminated ever more quickly. So, on the basis of the techies' own beliefs about the exponential acceleration of technological development, it's safe to say that the life-expectancies of human-derived entities, such as man-machine hybrids and human minds uploaded into machines, will actually be quite short. The seven-hundred year or thousand-year life-span to which some techies aspire is nothing but a pipe-dream.

>>14972896
Based

>>14952446
>>14954843
It's important to understand that in order to make people superfluous, machines will not have to surpass them in general intelligence but only in certain specialized kinds of intelligence. For example, the machines will not have to create or understand art, music, or literature, they will not need the ability to carry on an intelligent, non-technical conversation (the "Turing test"), they will not have to exercise tact or understand human nature, because these skills will have no application if humans are to be eliminated anyway. To make humans superfluous, the machines will only need to outperform them in making the technical decisions that have to be made for the purpose of promoting the short-term survival and propagation of the dominant self-prop systems. So, even without going as far as the techies themselves do in assuming intelligence on the part of future machines, we still have to conclude that humans will become obsolete. Immortality in the form (i)-the indefinite preservation of the human body as it exits today-is highly improbable.

The techies of course will argue that even if the human body and brain as we know them become obsolete, immortality in the form (ii) can still be achieved: Man-machine hybrids will permanently retain their usefulness, because by linking themselves with ever-more-powerful machines human beings (or what is left of them) will be able to remain competitive with pure machines.

Is it a good idea to write poetry with a metronome to keep musicality and rythm?

THE INDUSTRIAL SYSTEM IS ABOUT TO FUCKING COLLAPSE

AHHHHHHH HE WAS RIGHT ALONG

>>14645343 here, just wanted to say >>14646649 to >>14645505 and >>14646648

regards, anon

Technological Slavery

>>14530529
based Ted poster

Industrial Society And Its Future

>>14416368
"people" don't make jobs in capitalism, capitalists do that and they won't choose a worker who is relatively dearer in terms of the cost of keeping him functional than a robot/machine.
>interior decorators
easily disposable and replaceable
>marketing consultants
same
>buzzfeed writers
that's literally the only chance for capitalism - a society of artists where everyone just produces art which is deemed to be somehow exceptional. problem is this system would not sustain many lives as most people are incapable of serious acts of creativity and artistic genius and contrary to what midwit leftists who believe that they showed promise and are exceptional but were unfavorably treated by the educational system actual creativity is a very rare trait

We should break him out so he enjoys his last years out in the wilderness

>>14092057
Honestly so many assholes talked about "muh wisdom" and how it is the best a man can aquire but the longer I live the more I just crave to feel loved. I am a loner and it hurts so much. I would trade in my fucking philosophy knowledge if I could connect more deeply with humanity. Just today I was reading the theaitetos while my only close friend (and rival) is making out with a hot chick. I am mad jealous but HEY I now know some useless crap about ePISStemology!
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I am so fucking lonely :(

>>14060900
that Ted quote makes me sad. there are plenty of ways to rebel without blowing shit up.

>inb4 bootlicker

Why didn't we listen?

>>13853086
like the million of ted threads that have been posted on here since 2015, quite accurate diagnosis but his solutions are laughable.

If you've read any Mark Fisher or Žižek it's almost impossible to dismantle tech/kapital complex in modern society. The best you can do is riot for yangbux and hope some massive disaster shoop da whoops china.

>>13651587
The university intellectuals also play an important role in carrying out the System's trick. Though they like to fancy themselves independent thinkers, the intellectuals are (allowing for individual exceptions) the most oversocialized, the most conformist, the tamest and most domesticated, the most pampered, dependent, and spineless group in America today. As a result, their impulse to rebel is particularly strong. But, because they are incapable of independent thought, real rebellion is impossible for them. Consequently they are suckers for the System's trick, which allows them to irritate people and enjoy the illusion of rebelling without ever having to challenge the System's basic values.

Because they are the teachers of young people, the university intellectuals are in a position to help the System play its trick on the young, which they do by steering young people's rebellious impulses toward the standard, stereotyped targets: racism, colonialism, women's issues, etc. Young people who are not college students learn through the media, or through personal contact, of the "social justice" issues for which students rebel, and they imitate the students. Thus a youth culture develops in which there is a stereotyped mode of rebellion that spreads through imitation of peers—just as hairstyles, clothing styles, and other fads spread through imitation.

>>13630821
What are we waiting for anons? We all read Kaczynski's manifesto and agree with his predictions and state of human psyche nowadays... Collapse will be inevitable, sooner or later, we only need to find proper time, when system will be utterly destabilized and then WE CAN ATTACK! Join anti-technological revolution NOW!

>>13558714
I unironically got into Ted Kaczynski after reading the Lord of the Rings. I loved The Scouring of the Shire.