/lit/ - Literature

Overrated trash for contrarians. It's literally a stream of unfunny, ironic nonsense. I can't believe I fell for Joyce meme.

we'll try a serious thread now; ignore the semicolons; how do i allow myself to live knowing that others have died and suffered? how am i allowed to live with the knowledge that others before me had worse lives and had horrific ends? how am i able to live, to breathe, to type, to function knowing that others before me have been tortured, murdered, slaughtered, killed? how am i allowed to smile, to love, to feel inklings of love, to feel hints of romance and love, to feel romantic attraction and comfort when others before me only suffered, felt suffering, died? how is this reconciled? what philosophy can i read, can i look at, can i study to reconcile this? how do i reconcile my privileged and prim life with the horrors that have occurred before me, are occurring now, and that will occur in the future?

prithee; ho hum!

hi; was just wondering what you thought of ulysses; of molly's hair, her fluttering hair, in the air; of her prose, her polygonal prose; i want to know how you felt about this monument; and i want to know how you felt about molly, in the morning, under the sheets, waking for poldy for breakfast in her morning gown with her hair all bedraggled and her bubs softly spilling out of her slip; i want to know how you felt about poldy defecating in the outhouse; i want to know about paddy dignam and the funeral; about beaufoy purefoy's accouchement and the recapitulation of the english language; i want to know about soft, soft molly in her morning slip calling for poldy in her husky, scented voice; lingering him on, leaving him up; calling for him, her siren call; i want to know about her bubs yes the bubs that bucked and bobbed and bounced all flowing and milky and ambrosial like the greeks that will be met-him-pike-hoses for you that's for metempsychosis poldy was always talking to me about that and slyly if i may so using indirect and subtle means to get me to learn that silly word why i remember the night out back at the mirus bazaar on eccles with that gentleman he rubbed my back and showed me the stars all high up in the milky way and i'll tell you the sights were serene and he put his hips next to mine and sort of moved toward my flank as the stars coalesced and i felt his whisper it was a whisper of longing of desire of hotness of longing and he whispered will you marry me under the moonlight he said it and i was all gasping and a bit caught off and i paused and there was a shrieking pause for a second before my yes my lovely yes i will i will i will Yes;

>LMAO what if a jewish cuckold were the hero oh and arent nationalists stupid???

shouldnt this book be considered postmodern?

Was this the greatest shitpost of the 20th century?

Do people that write well do so naturally or do they consciously try to like vary their vocabulary and structure their sentences so their stuff reads nicely?

I feel like I have to force myself to use synonyms and shit to write anything remotely readable... do others write nice prose purposely or does it come naturally to them?

>>10596218
>it turns out I was Ulysses all along
Fucking seriously? Great book of the 20th century my ass.

Is this a good book to get back into reading with?

Some of the greatest modern works have come from a particular shithole

Is it necessary to read Ulysses first if you want a full appreciation of postmodern literature?

Hey guys, I'm trying to get more into literature lately. Is Ulysses a good starting point?

Name 3 books better than this
>pro tip: you can't

>needing to put """""artwork"""""" on your cover

Might as well title your book "Complete Shit" while you're at it

I'm about halfway done with pic related, and I have to say I'm pretty underwhelmed.

Some parts are brilliant (e.g. Stephen's Shakespeare argument, just the pure fun he's having with the language there, the opening scenes for both Stephen and Bloom, some of the funeral stuff), but I'm not really sold on the "muh greatest of all time" label.

Is it timeless?
No way. I doubt it'll survive this generation of readers honestly. Sure, it's still widely read, but not based on its own merits so much as it is just a meme in the canon. At best, Joyce occasionally hits on that Shakespeare effect where the language itself carries a musicality and intentionality that registers subconsciously (even if I don't know word-for-word wtf he's talking about). But mostly I'm left feeling like I've read a bunch of clever wordplay that gets old once you generalize the effect.

Does it readily communicate something to the reader?
Maybe for a hyper particular audience, it once did. But I'm even skeptical of that from the rumors that he basically handed out the chapter titles/associated bodily functions and colors to a few friends who then disseminated it throughout the readership. It took me till Scylla and Charybdis to figure one of the techniques without referencing secondary material. So sure you can make the case that I'm a brainlet (like most modern readers), but then againI'm not convinced anybody can just pick up on this shit w/o him having laid it out all those years ago. The clever intension does not justify the execution.

I know it's p lame to just say, "Oh Joyce is an obscurantist." I really doubt that he wrote the entire book to be one big puzzle game (at least, I hope the poet Stephen has something in common with Joyce in that they ultimately want to convey something of beauty to the reader). But what are your thoughts? How did you approach it your first reading? What made you want to carry on?

>>10414965
This is now an optimism thread.

what versions of these should i get? which are the best? if you could add amazon links, that would be great.

>At last I have become Ulysses
Are you serious?

>I am much smarter than you and have a divinely acute sense of consciousness and experience, but hey I'm actually just a normal guy: the book

Spanish speaker here

Should i read this or will i miss something important if i read a translation?

I don't get it.

Did you like it?

>>10352525
>Nobody has posted the ultimate meme yet.
I'm disappointed with you all.

What books have a similar playfulness and humour?

Haven't even read it but this