/lit/ - Literature

>>17965231
nevermind

>just amor fati bro
So if Muhammad rapes my wife and beheads her in front of me I'm supposed to """amor fati""" and be happy this happened? How is this anything but Cope?

>>16969320
I am also primarily Indo-European but apparently Nietzsche believes I am simultaneously Semitic.

These philosophical discussions aren't impossible, I just haven't ever read Nietzsche. If what's been presented in this thread is the brunt of his ideas, his is a flimsy philosophy. And of course, it is possible that some of Nietzsche's criticisms of the Christianity he knew are still applicable to Orthodoxy, but most are obviously not, robbing his argument of worth.

It's all a feeble attempt to make your opponent believe he is something he is not, "philosophical/psychological contemplations" be damned. The failures of this reductionism is where we have to concede that "actually, the beliefs we are criticizing are double-thinks."

And to top it all off- replace Heaven with Ubermensch.

I see threads about Nietzsche A LOT on /lit/, which inspired me to try reading his work. However, starting with 'On the Genealogy of Morals', I've already found myself struggling to grasp many of his concepts, given my inexperience in philosophy. So I ask, how should I effectively approach this undertaking without consulting stacks of supplementary material--for time is of the essence--by previous thinkers (i.e. "the Greeks")?

the best and worst cant be lost in translation

>>7299027
dont misquote pls. it's only one-sided exploitation.

>Woman wants to be taken and accepted as a possession, she wishes to be merged in the conceptions of "possession" and "possessed"; consequently she wants one who takes, who does not offer and give himself away, but who reversely is rather to be made richer in "himself" by the increase of power, happiness and faith which the woman herself gives to him. Woman gives herself, man takes her. I do not think one will get over this natural contrast by any social contract, or with the very best will to do justice, however desirable it may be to avoid bringing the severe, frightful, enigmatical, and unmoral elements of this antagonism constantly before our eyes. For love, regarded as complete, great, and full, is nature, and as nature, is to all eternity something "unmoral”.
http://www.lexido.com/EBOOK_TEXTS/THE_GAY_SCIENCE_FIFTH_BOOK_.aspx?S=363

The best author will be the one who is ashamed to become a writer.

http://www.lexido.com/EBOOK_TEXTS/HUMAN_ALL_TOO_HUMAN_BOOK_ONE_.aspx?S=192