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Is the Wife of Bath's Tale an accurate depiction of women?

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I want to become a more humorous writer. Post the funniest words/phrases/passages you have read.

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What are the odds that a literary agent will simply call the cops on you for submitting a transgressive novel?

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Has anyone ever considered the possibility of making a website to store all our original fiction and poetry?

Despite all the shitposting that goes on here, we are actually a fairly productive board. People on here write novels, short stories, poems, epics, elegies, essays, all sorts of things. Has there ever been thought of starting up a place to put it all?

Kind of like Fanfiction.net, except for shitty original /lit/ works instead of shitty fanfics.

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Why does everyone think the United States government is some invincible, omnipotent entity? That the big bad CIA or FBI or NSA have literal Godlike powers and could sniff out and shut down any threats to the State and to their general rule?

My overall impression of the federal government and the three-letter agencies is that they're vastly weaker than most conspiracy theorists think, and if there were ever any serious attack on them they'd either badly miss it or not be able to withstand it. They bungled 9/11, after all. They bungled the withdrawal from Afghanistan. They keep bungling, yet everyone is still as afraid of them as if it were the 60s and they were at the peak of their powers.

Does everyone just assume they're hiding their power level, DBZ-style?

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I've given some thought to how Zoomers and modern readers in general might be approached. One thing I've thought of, more than once, is that maybe the future is serialized fiction. Think about it. When Zoomers DO read, what do they read? They read manga, they read fanfiction, and they read light novels. All of these are serialized fiction. They are released a chapter/segment at a time, drawn out over the course of weeks and months. Each chapter gets some "space" between the one before it and the one after it, so Zoomers don't feel intimidated by having to read a huge amount of text at once. It's easier on their limited attention span. Additionally, they can leave comments on each individual chapter/section, which increases the interactive element of the story, which they like.

I think serialized fiction may be the way to reach modern readers. It's not even new or novel, either; Tolstoy, Dickens, and countless other great writers released their work in serialzed format. The Pickwick Papers first showed up in newspapers as a serial. So did War & Peace. They were huge hits, with audiences eagerly waiting on each new chapter. Maybe something similar can happen in the digital age.

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Eliot always said that if he'd been able to have sex, his life would have been more fulfilling. Do you think he would have felt the same about gay sex? If someone had tenderly fucked his ass, would he have been less depressed?

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Does anyone have experience publishing on Wattpad? I've been looking at it more and more lately.

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Someone posted this on another board but I think it's relevant to /lit/, too: are Zoomers responsible for all the low-effort posting due to their short attention spans? Has any Zoomer in here ever effortposted, like written a post that was several paragraphs long? And if not, why not?

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Is TikTok going to be 4chan's next nemesis? Right now our current nemesis is Twitter, but it feels like Twitter is on the verge of destroying itself. Which wouldn't be so surprising, 4chan's enemies have a tendency to self-destruct. I mean, that's what happened to SomethingAwful and Gaia and Tumblr and Reddit.

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Do any of these sources talk about limits of age when it comes to fetishes? That is to say, is there any discussion of how innate a certain fetish might be based on how long the person in question has had it? Some people have fetishes and preferences that have been around even since they were children, and have been aroused by them since their early teens.

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Does anyone have experience putting serialized fiction up on the bigger websites? Things like Royal Road, Wattpad, Archive Of Our Own? Even the new Vella thing from Amazon?

I have a big story I'm writing. The first book is done and I want to do something with it. I've been querying literary agents but I'm willing to accept the possibility that I get rejected by all of them. If I do, I'd like to put the book out in serialized format, releasing parts of it at a time over several months. I actually have written a lot of fanfiction so I've got experience releasing big stories in serialized form. But I've never done it with original fiction before, and so I'm curious about the various sites that are out there.

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I am more intrigued by the idea of Worm than by what its actual content is.

Basically: Worm is a work written in prose and released for free on the internet. It was thrown into the world in arguably the worst possible set of circumstances. It did not have traditional publishing behind it, it did not even have the veneer of legitimacy that self-publishing ostensibly provides. No, it was fully thrust out into the world online for free. It has more in common with fanfics than it does with "serious" literature.

Yet despite all that, it's garnered a major following. People know about it. People arguably know more about it than they know about some of the middle-tier works of great literature. It has, as >>18511080 notes, spawned a fan community, which generates fanart, fanfiction, speculation, forums, and discussion, and this is somewhat substantial. As the OP's image attests, some of the works of the fan community are of rather high quality.

So what I can't help but fixate on is: what lessons does Worm teach current writers? Current poets? Sure, maybe Worm isn't the greatest of all works. It's not Moby-Dick, it's not War & Peace, it's not the Iliad, it's not Paradise Lost. But despite all that, it was thrown into the online world and because it does, indeed, have some positive qualities, it garnered a following. Is this just how works of literature that matter are going to be released, from now on? If we on /lit/ keep bitching on how mainstream publishers don't publish great works of literature any more, does Worm offer a counter-example? If someone is as ambitious as great writers tend to be, would he release his major work online these days, instead of going through a publisher? If Joyce were writing in 2021, would he put Ulysses online, free for all to see?

Basically: if you have a certain amount of conviction in your story, is there a point at seeking traditional publishing any more? Worm's success, such as it is, suggests that there is an avenue to fame for totally-online publishing. Could a story that was superior to Worm, as a work of art, achieve even greater success? I think about this.

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Anybody heard of Kindle Vella? It's launching in a few months:

https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/help/topic/GR2L4AHPMQ44HNQ7

It basically seems like Amazon's going to let you release a story one chapter/section at a time, and promote each section as it appears. Like an old serial run in newspapers. Or, I guess, like fanfics are released, these days.

I'm really intrigued by it. I have some experience writing fanfics and I've developed a bit of intuitive skill at building hype for my stories by releasing the right chapter at the right time. This could be a way to get genuine readership, in a way that wouldn't be the case if I were just dumping my books on Amazon all at once.

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I've had several short stories and poems published, so I'm actually on my way. Now I'm working on a big work, a mixed work of prose and poetry that will span several volumes. I hope it will be a truly great work of art.

I'm a bit vexed on what to do with it, though. The first book in the story is done and I'm trying to get it out into the world. I've sent it to several literary agents, and haven't received a positive response so far. I know it's not bad, because I've shared it with multiple people and they have all thought it was very enjoyable. So I'm not sure how long I should stick at the agent-and-publisher track before I get off it and try something new.

I've always resisted self-publishing, because I think it's the equivalent of throwing a newborn baby into the ocean and telling it to learn to swim. Without promotion, without marketing, without the backing of a publishing house, I worry my work would be lost and forgotten about, and never get read. But maybe I should give self-publishing a shot? I'm not a nobody any more, reputation-wise. And I have a non-negligible social media presence. Not huge, but I've got more than a thousand followers across all my platforms. And I've built up a minor reputation as a writer and poet. So maybe, given the circumstances I have now versus what I have a few years ago, self-publishing might be fruitful for me, in a way it might not have been a few years ago.

I don't know, /lit/, what do you guys think?

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>>18088604
Dickens, Faulkner, and Hemingway were titans. In addition to all of them being legitimately great writers, great prose stylists, great storytellers, great character creators, and so on, all three of them were forceful, commanding personalities that dominated any room they were in.

You read similar things about guys like Melville, though of course he was more obscure in his own day. GREAT writers have a magnetism about them, an aura.

So who's like that today? I'm trying to think of any writer younger than 40 who has that kind of power, that natural charisma that shows up in one way or another. And if I can't think of any, if there are no current young authors who have that kind of vibe, then maybe THAT'S why there are no young authors who are famous, and who are being read by young people and people in general. Maybe they're just not around. Or they are around, but we haven't heard of them yet.

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For some strange reason I am hornier than ever. This despite the fact that I've gotten older. My desire to masturbate and have sex has INCREASED in the last year and a half. I'm over 30 but I feel hornier than I did in my 20s, at least in my late 20s.

I wonder why this is? Maybe it's my body telling me to hurry up and get married and have kids. Maybe it's like how most women feel the urge to have kids once they hit a certain age.

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Who has a more miserable, depressing inferiority complex: black people or the Irish?

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>>16796111
Does this remind anybody else of ANOTHER story an Anon told about dragons having sex?

This was a few years ago. There was supposedly an Anon who worked as a pencil pusher a major publisher, and a really well-written manuscript for a fantasy novel crossed his desk. However, one of its central conceits was that it featured a hero who has sex with a dragon. Anyway, supposedly his managing editor got hold of it after he'd passed it along and declared that the book would be "the next Game Of Thrones." The Anon said we'd know it when we saw it.

Has any book where the hero has sex with a dragon come out in the last couple of years?

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>>16667953
Honestly, once you leave college behind virginity stops being such a big issue.
That said, we definitely have to change our cultural attitudes towards sex. We are constantly bombarded with it in advertising and made to feel bad that we aren't getting it all the time.
We should stop making it such a prominent part of our lives, especially when the experience they want to market is so far removed from the reality of so many. Virgin-shaming should be a thing of the past.

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What kind of a philosopher would an orangutan be, anyway? What theories would he subscribe to?

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>>16055450
Are there any other books like this? Books that are meant, but the original author, to be entirely serious, but because of the nature of the author himself, they unwittingly can also be read as satires of the very subject the author intends to treat seriously?

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Does Kantbot write, like, real literature? I mostly just see him either tweeting or writing essays. And MOST of his essays are just published on his various websites, so that's a form of self-publishing. I think he may have gotten an essay published in Jacobite magazine, at least.

But has he ever actually gotten, like, a poem or a short story published?

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Would that be a "paradox"? I don't know, I'm kind of curious about this too, now that I think of it.

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