/lit/ - Literature

>>22775722
Simply this:
>God is dead.
>We killed God.
>God knew we would do this.
>God sacrifices God's self anyhow.
>Being eternal, every moment in time coincides with God, God is forever, eternally suffering and dying for man.
>God did this for us.
>"God became man that man might become God," that we might freely partake of divine union despite our propensity for sin.
>God is love (I John). God identifies Itself in us, who are in Its image.
>This shows that God wants what is best for us. This includes freedom, the freedom to sin and to kill God.
>Yet God still lives, the negation of a negation, Absolute Spirit returning to itself.
>Through the Logos, all being progresses towards the Absolute, the union with the Divine Nature in love.

>>22760336
>(P) Nothing can be within itself. Nothing can be the cause of itself
From this it can be seen that the universe could not have caused itself. Thus, this premise establishes the need for a Prime Mover.

Who could this Prime Mover be? Just consider Anselm's ontological proof of God, the being of whom nothing greater can be conceived.

Therefore, God created the world.

If God created the world, then God can make people as free as God wants and give them moral responsibility.

God did indeed do this.

Thus people have a right to be punished.

Glory be to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, as it was in the beginning, is, and ever shall be, world without end, amen.

Christ overcomes all pains, all sorrows. For he suffered as we suffered, but it no seated in glory at the right hand of the Father. And we are no longer slaves to sin but born anew. Praise the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, glory to them for ever and ever.

>>22491658
The person who is tricked into accepting things like this at face vale needs Christ badly. Most of this is not even poorly sourced and explained empirical fact, it is bitter incel philosophical positions making a mountain of a molehill.

We were created for one purpose, to love God. God has placed love in our heart, but we have loved all the wrong things. The things of this world we can always love. The things of God can never be taken from us. The wise man seeks what he can never lose.

Too late have I loved you, O Beauty so ancient, O Beauty so new.
Too late have I loved you! You were within me but I was outside myself, and there I sought you!
In my weakness, I ran after the beauty of the things you have made.
You were with me, and I was not with you.
The things you have made kept me from you – the things which would have no being unless they existed in you!
You have called, you have cried, and you have pierced my deafness.
You have radiated forth, you have shined out brightly, and you have dispelled my blindness.
You have sent forth your fragrance, and I have breathed it in, and I long for you.
I have tasted you, and I hunger and thirst for you.
You have touched me, and I ardently desire your peace.

You have made us for yourself, O Lord, and our heart is restless until it rests in you

>Thus the blessed Bartholomew asserts that the divine science is both vast and minute, and that the Gospel is great and broad, yet concise and short; signifying by this, that the beneficent Cause of all is most eloquent, yet utters few words, or rather is altogether silent, as having neither (human) speech nor (human) understanding, because it is super-essentially exalted above created things, and reveals itself in Its naked Truth to those alone who pass beyond all that is pure or impure, and ascend above the topmost altitudes of holy things, and who, leaving behind them all divine light and sound and heavenly utterances, plunge into the Darkness where truly dwells, as the Oracles declare, that ONE who is beyond all.

>>22449119
You are bound by the chains of causality, cause and effect, what comes before dictates what comes after. All progress according to the precepts of the Logos.

You do not know the Logos, the Word that gives shape to the Ground, the Father. You must come to know the Word through his incarnation in the Flesh.

Freedom comes from the submission to the Logos, to live in accordance with reason and that love by which the Father sent his only begotten Son to die on a cross for man and by which both pour out their Spirit on mankind.

14 We know that the law is spiritual; but I am carnal, sold under sin. 15 I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. 16 Now if I do what I do not want, I agree that the law is good. 17 So then it is no longer I that do it, but sin which dwells within me. 18 For I know that nothing good dwells within me, that is, in my flesh. I can will what is right, but I cannot do it. 19 For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I do. 20 Now if I do what I do not want, it is no longer I that do it, but sin which dwells within me.

21 So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at hand. 22 For I delight in the law of God, in my inmost self, 23 but I see in my members another law at war with the law of my mind and making me captive to the law of sin which dwells in my members. 24 Wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? 25 Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I of myself serve the law of God with my mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.

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One dies a death of personal autonomy when one lives by the desires of the members of one's body. Only the Logos, Christ can cast out the Legion Within. He offers resurrection of personhood in this life.

>>22374567
None, because it is a false doctrine. You will end up a stunted loser unable to embrace true love and friendship because you fear that if you have either you will start to care and be hurt.

Only a many who can set his heart on the eternal things what is without beginning or end, cannot lose what he has. These are the things of God. One must strive for our two purposes, to love God with all your mind, heart, and soul, and to love your neighbor as yourself. This is all.

Read the Gospel of John, Romans, and Eckhart, the Book of Divine Consolation. Also Light from Light.

Glory to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, both now and forever and on to ages and ages to come, amen.

>>22352662
The Holy Spirit is also God, as is the Logos/Son. The Son isn't created of a mortal woman like Zeus's sons but is without beginning or end.

>>22340658
Those who hate wisdom hate the Logos. The Logos has no begining and no end. The Father eternally speaks being into being through the Word, Christ. The Spirit eternally reflects upon the Word that embodies the Father. From the Waters of the Deep, the Unground, eternally Being unfolds in its dialectical majesty as the interplay of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Seek Sophia, and know the Wisdom is the fear of the Lord.

Seek love. For love is what underlies all. The Father, Firstness, is that Lover of the Song of Songs. The Son, Secondness, is that which is Beloved and whom returns the love, as in the Canticle of Canticles. And the Holy Spirit is the love between them, Thirdness, Hypostatic Abstraction.

But those who are puffed up with pride and willful blind, who see but remain blind, who hear but do not understand, only wish to know the truths that are the makings of their own hands. They commit to harlotry, adultery, laying down before the idols of what they have crafted. They reject the higher mysteries for the majesty of what they cannot grasp but only love. To know something entirely is to have power over it, and so they hate God because they cannot have that power. But for us, the slightest sip of knowledge of the infinite fills our cup. We only hope to grasp a glimpse of the darkness above the light, the Godhead which is within all things but contained in nothing, the Unconditioned, the Absolute.

All glory to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, now and forever, and on to ages and ages, amen

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