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is he still relevant?

>>11329875

Zizek would dominate.

>>10621248
>>10621973
>i am just naturally apolitical
>i have no ideology
>ads don't work on me

>>10256156
>>10256183
>>10256200

>>10156477

I've posted this before.

>had class on WWI
>Professor was insecure woman, refused to acknowledge anyone unless they addressed her as professor
>one day she claims that people in the past thought differently than we did, that they seen everything through their respective ideologies, and that we no longer had any ideologies
>I raise my hand, and ask if the notion of us having no ideology is not itself a type of ideology
>she ignores my question and goes off on an unrelated tangent
>I approach her after class, and ask her what sources I should read to understand where, when and how ideology came to an end, as this was surely one of the most important developments in human history
>she starts to stammer about election results (what that had to do with anything I couldn't see) and was visibly uncomfortable
>I interrupted her by thanking her for her time and then left

I met her in our department a few days later. I was about to say hello when she said "I don't have time to talk!" and hurried away in the opposite direction.

>>10147812
>What books can I read about this retarded mental condition otherwise known as "Left vs Right", "Liberal vs Conservative" and "Socialist vs Capitalist"?
Big Ideology man

>>9845585
>it's why i gotta disappear from /lit/ for a while

Books that got better as you got older?

>>9236059
Victory for the Left! Marxism prevails again

>>9183242
>>9183288

Finally, an intelligent response. Thank you.

> The big universal We has perhaps become too big and universal for anyone to feel properly at home in.
> So maybe we do need a kind of deep psychic reboot, but as individuals, not as revolutionaries

I feel this is going to be the main philosophical project of today's Left: How do be universal yet also account for the individual? Past revolutions (French Revolution, Bolsheviks, etc.) have been done under this idea of universal "sameness" and yet we haven't gotten anywhere; their universalist revolutions made big grand claims and ideals but forgot to account that not every single person could fit into their definition of what it is to be universal.

I think back to Levinas's quote: "The principal task … consists in thinking of the Other-in-the-Same (l’Autre dans le Même) without thinking of the Other (l’Autre) as another Same (Même).” Maybe we need to start seeing each other as equals because we are different, not because we are "equal".

I just wonder what (if I could call it that way) a Levinasian notion of society would look like.

but what solutions does he offer?

I recently watched his interview with the BBC. He advocated a more welfare orientated state governed society without ties to Communism.

But is that all he has to offer? I like him a lot but he doesn't seem to offer any practical solutions for the future. He does a brilliant job of explaining desires, dreams and ideology but he doesn't seem to provide a well formulated plan for the future.

Anyone disagree?

>>8960252
>Take me for example, all happy and so on and so on

>>8847467
>I'm just a shitposter

He's doing it again

>>8234723
zizekism

Can you point me to any critics of current affairs/politics similar to Zizek? Especially a European focus, but not necessarily.

>have female lecturer for history course on Europe 1867-1918
>she begins talking about ideology at the time by giving a definition
>'ideology: a package of opinions on issues based on common values"
>at this point I begin to become agitated, and start rubbing my nose
>she then goes on to claim that "things were different back then, most people nowadays don't have any ideology"
>At this point I lose control and begin sweating profusely, alternating between rubbing my nose, tugging my shirt and raising my hand
>She stops talking and I ask her " Is the idea that we can just step out of ideology not ideology itself?"
>she starts talking about the various popular ideologies in vogue at the time and doesn't answer my question
>Not wanting to embarrass her I wait until after class when everyone has left to approach her
I say that if we as historians accept the claim that people have left ideology behind, then we as historians must ask when this change occurred, how it occurred and why it occurred, as it would be one of the most important changes in the history of humanity
>"Surely there are many papers and studies you could recommend me to learn more about this momentous social, political and philosophical change?"
>uh.. We have election results and polls to show how ideologies have changed
>"that's not what I asked professor"
>"Surely you know that Ideology is not just how we respond to problems and so on, but is also in the very way we perceive the problems. The idea that we are so much smarter than our predecessors that only we see the world as it really is, unfiltered by ideology, is ludicrous"
>she tries to bluff her way out by repeating what she already said in the lecture but loses her nerve, refusing to meet my eyes and stuttering incessantly before trailing off
>I thank her for her time and leave, snorting "My God, ideology at its purest!" as I go

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>>6684410
Welcome to the Desert of the Real is pretty solid I enjoyed reading it quite a bit and liked how Zizek didn't digress or drone too much in it and how clear the point was

>>6684469
Why do you think its useless? I go back and forth on whether I actually buy it myself even though I find it intetesting

Copy Pasta but

>It is in the schniff fable of Anon that we see perhaps the most damnibg of postmodern apathy schniff. Of course that is the apathetic feelings one has when faced with the schniff overwhelming uh uh forces of multinationals, the sort of contradictions inherent in a liberal-democratic society and so on. In this tale of Anon in the last two or three hours the classic Western liberal response goes something like "he schniff is a victim of corporate takeover the u-uh fundamental Rightists funded by fat cats are taking advantage of his desire for a waifu and disdain for real life women and schniff a-and so on" But is it not the Anon himself who schniff knows how ridiculous his NEET lifestyle is and is, in fact, its mist viscious critic? The greateat thing about the so called Smug Pepe meme is that it is a criticique made by the very ones being critiqued! It is in Anons rabid self criticism and loathing that we truly understand this sector of schniff modern Western capitalist societies; not the taping of these eternal children by some spooky fat cat boogeymen but their own conscious we vision to remain man children schniff to capitalize on its advantages. In this way schniff the true capitalist IS the victim of capitalism himself!

ITT: the ways in which people on /lit/ misunderstand their own idols which makes you kek

I'll start with two classics
>Stinerists who don't realize certain spooks are necessary
>Zizekists who think ideology is always a bad thing

>>6615984
It is in the schniff fable of Anon that we see perhaps the most damnibg of postmodern apathy schniff. Of course that is the apathetic feelings one has when faced with the schniff overwhelming uh uh forces of multinationals, the sort of contradictions inherent in a liberal-democratic society and so on. In this tale of Anon in the last two or three hours the classic Western liberal response goes something like "he schniff is a victim of corporate takeover the u-uh fundamental Rightists funded by fat cats are taking advantage of his desire for a waifu and disdain for real life women and schniff a-and so on" But is it not the Anon himself who schniff knows how ridiculous his NEET lifestyle is and is, in fact, its mist viscious critic? The greateat thing about the so called Smug Pepe meme is that it is a criticique made by the very ones being critiqued! It is in Anons rabid self criticism and loathing that we truly understand this sector of schniff modern Western capitalist societies; not the taping of these eternal children by some spooky fat cat boogeymen but their own conscious we vision to remain man children schniff to capitalize on its advantages. In this way schniff the true capitalist IS the victim of capitalism himself!