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Hat man mich verstanden?

>CONSEQUENTLY the stoics did not understand nature
was he too harsh on stoicism?

habt ihr mich verstanden?

>>16399280
The only philosophy videos I've been watching on youtube lately are by Eric Dodson, and they are mostly pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4baePsCT_E&list=PUr8ziBzqZlGAvv4krfAAORQ&index=1

Is Walter Kauffman good for you?

Who is the best Nietszche translator and lecturer/scholar?

Nietzsche was far too optimistic. There is no Overman, just endless nihilism.

How is that some thinkers can be used to justify completely different views? Nietzsche is used by nazis, fascists and post-modernists, even some marxists for example.
Is it possible to do this with other writers? Let's say, a conservative or christian take on Deleuze or Focault?

You know how

>>15593997
Reminder that he suffered from insomnia, constant headaches and stomachaches and still studies for 10 hours a day.

How the FUCK was this man so scared and concerned with nihilism, in the 1870's.

Because it seems all the nihilistic happenings occurred after him.

hat man mich verstanden?

>>14934952

8/10, he told us the basis of ethics and philosophy of life. Apart from that, he is mainly remembered more for his questions than for his answers.

>Leisure and Idleness. There is an Indian savagery, a savagery peculiar to the Indian blood, in the manner in which the Americans strive after gold: and the breathless hurry of their work-the characteristic vice of the New World-already begins to infect old Europe, and makes it savage also, spreading over it a strange lack of intellectuality. One is now ashamed of repose: even long reflection almost causes remorse of conscience. Thinking is done with a stopwatch, as dining is done with the eyes fixed on the financial newspaper; we live like men who are continually "afraid of letting opportunities slip." "Better do anything whatever, than nothing"-this principle also is a noose with which all culture and all higher taste may be strangled. And just as all form obviously disappears in this hurry of workers, so the sense for form itself, the ear and the eye for the melody of movement, also disappear. The proof of this is the clumsy perspicuity which is now everywhere demanded in all positions where a person would like to be sincere with his fellows, in intercourse with friends, women, relatives, children, teachers, pupils, leaders and princes-one has no longer either time or energy for ceremonies, for roundabout courtesies, for any esprit in conversation, or for any odium whatever. For life in the hunt for gain continually compels a person to consume his intellect, even to exhaustion, in constant dissimulation, overreaching, or forestalling: the real virtue nowadays is to do something in a shorter time than another person. And so there are only rare hours of sincere intercourse permitted: in them, however, people are tired, and would not only like "to let themselves go," but to stretch their legs out wide in awkward style. The way people write their letters nowadays is quite in keeping with the age; their style and spirit will always be the true "sign of the times." If there be still enjoyment in society and in art, it is enjoyment such as over-worked slaves provide for themselves. Oh, this moderation in "joy" of our cultured and uncultured classes! Oh, this increasing suspiciousness of all enjoyment! Work is winning over more and more the good conscience to its side: the desire for enjoyment already calls itself "need of recreation," and even begins to be ashamed of itself. "One owes it to one's health," people say, when they are caught at a picnic. Indeed, it might soon go so far that one could not yield to the desire for the vita contemplative (that is to say, excursions with thoughts and friends), without self-contempt and a bad conscience. Well! Formerly it was the very reverse: it was "action" that suffered from a bad conscience. a man of good family I concealed his work when need compelled him to labor. The slave labored under the weight of the feeling that he did something contemptible-the "doing" itself was something contemptible. "Only in otium and bellum is there nobility and honor:" so rang the voice of ancient prejudice!

ALLES UMSONST

Favorite books from Nietzsche?

I just turned 18. How hard is it to understand Nietzche? How should you read it? Which book should i read first?

>>11298114
Embrace your destiny anon. Go shoot up a school.

>people who follow "arguments" against making children
The absolute state of the human race

Thus sang Zarathustra. But when the dance was over and the maidens had gone away, he became sad.
‘The sun has long since gone down,’ he said at last. ‘The meadow is damp, and a coolness comes from the forests.
‘Something unknown is about me and is looking thoughtfully. What! You are still living, Zarathustra?
‘Why? What for? Whereby? Where to? Where? How? Is it not folly to go on living?–
‘Ah, my friends, it is the evening that questions thus from within me. Forgive me my sadness!
‘Evening has come: forgive me that it has become evening!’
Thus spoke Zarathustra.

>forgive me that it has become evening!’

What did he mean by this?

>>10799777
>strawmans the Stoic's concept of nature
>causes decades of people not understanding or even attempting to understand what the Stoic's philosophy was about

well played Nietzsche, well played

Was he really that smart?

Why did he went insane?

>>10513457
It's basically guaranteed.