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> modern western morality is cruel and sadistic (even Kant somehow)
> the aristocrats were cruel too but we can't blame them since it's only in their nature. By the way, cruelty in this sense is life affirming and only natural!
Consider this minions' meme and the quote "The slaves' revolt in morals begins with this, that ressentiment itself becomes creative and gives birth to values: the ressentiment of those who are denied the real action, that of the deed, and who compensate with an imaginary revenge. Whereas all noble morality grows out of a triumphant affirmation of oneself, slave morality immediately says No to what comes from outside, to what is different, to what is not oneself: and this No is its creative deed. [...] The reverse is true of the noble way of evaluating: it acts and grows spontaneously, it seeks out its opposite only in order to say Yes to itself still more gratefully, still more jubilantly; and its negative concept, "base", "mean", "bad", in only an after-born, pale, contrasting image in relation to the positive basic concept, which is nourished through and through with life and passion: "we are noble, good, beautiful, happy!"

Slave morality is escapist, promotes and protects meekness. Master morality is not about imagining a world were the meek become strong and vice-versa, but about actually being strong in this real world by overcoming those things that call for strengh to be overcome - not a life without suffering, mind you, a life where suffering is embraced along with the pleasure as something that affirms your will to live.

>Couldn't you apply this same critique to Nietzche himself? He had poor social interactions so instead of having the strength to overcome it, he simply placed value on power instead of social compassion. He himself inverted the values of the dominant structures (Christianity in the case of Europe at the time) to try and regain domination in his life.
Close, you just missed it. Nietzsche was never "powerful" in a way that was opposed to compassion. He was tormented with horrible physical pain and needed to cope with it; he didn't want to lie to himself about how everything was going to turn out OK (by hoping for a painless afterlife for instance), so chose to accept and glad that he got something to try and overcome.

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/nietzsche/1886/beyond-good-evil/ch09.htm
>In the foreground there is the feeling of plenitude, of power, which seeks to overflow, the happiness of high tension, the consciousness of a wealth which would fain give and bestow:--the noble man also helps the unfortunate, but not--or scarcely--out of pity, but rather from an impulse generated by the super-abundance of power.
He seems keen on largesse and magnanimity.

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