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In Hinduism, it would be called being an “avadhut siddha” or “avadhuta.”

>Avadhūta (IAST avadhūta) — अवधूत in Sanskrit — is a Sanskrit term from the root 'to shake' (see V. S. Apte and Monier-Williams) that, among its many uses, in some Indian religions indicates a type of mystic or saint who is beyond egoic-consciousness, duality and common worldly concerns and acts without consideration for standard social etiquette. Avadhūta is a Jīvanmukta who gives his insight to others and teach them about his realisation of the true nature of the ultimate reality (Brahman) and self (Ātman) and takes the role of a guru to show the path of moksha to others. Some Avadhūta also achieve the title of Paramahamsa.

Gurdjieff’s way, strangely enough, is meant to be lived in ordinary life, not in a monastery, using the events, struggles, sorrows, suffering, and joys of ordinary life all as a means of reaching enlightenment privately, secretly, not setting oneself up as a guru or cult leader. It therefore has an even closer parallel to the idea of the “kulavadhuta.”

> Kulāvadhūta : These people are supposed to have taken initiation from the Kaula sampradaya or people who awakened their Kundalini and capable of merging it at Sahasrāra Chakra or people who are capable of raising their awareness to Turiya and Turiyatita states. They are adepts in Kundalini Tantra. It is very difficult to recognize these people as they do not wear any signs outside which can identify them from others. The speciality of these people is that they remain and live like usual people do. They can show themselves in the form of Kings, a warrior, a family man or a beggar. That is, a Kulavadhuta shows no outside signs of their spiritual status.

Nisargadatta Maharaj (1897-1981) was a cigarette-smoking shop-owner in Mumbay, a very ordinary seeming man who nevertheless reached enlightenment under his guru, Siddheramshwar Maharaj (1888-1936), and wrote the famous book “I Am That” about his own questions and answers with seekers in much more plain, modern English, as opposed to the poetic phraseology of texts like the Bhagavad Gita. Enlightenment can be had even in the modern day, even in a Western body. If it was only limited to the Buddhists and Hindus, would it really be “enlightenment” or would it just be deforming your mind to fit into a limited tradition?

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Fuck you, asshole. Your loss, not mine. That’s just one more poster who’s stupid questions I don’t have to respond to. Enjoy the afterlife! Some Zen masters used to straight up beat the shit out of people, and I see why. And don’t even say, “Ha, pretty arrogant and violent for a so-called ‘enlightened’ person!” Or do, who gives a fuck?

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Emptiness is not a concept to be reified. The Zen lads are about everything and nothing. Clinging to the concept of emptiness is clinging to concepts, not enlightenment.

When I speak of the “something inside you,” I’m making an imperfect approximation of real truth or experience. By the way, in Buddhist traditions, you can find an approximation to what I’m talking about in the phrase “bodhichitta,” and also concepts like Buddha-nature and Buddha-mind. If anyone has read Ouspensky, they should also recognize this as the “magnetic center.”

Another book recommendation is “I Am That” by Nisargadatta Maharaj in pic related. Nice guy! Of course, this is 4chan, so cue people making fun of the actual Lord of the Universe with their “poo in the loo” jokes. How sad!