/lit/ - Literature

>>23296902
Poor Nietzsche, he got close but the truth was too much for him, and the contradictions in his thought drove him insane. Pity, since he had a good mind as proven by The Birth of Tragedy.

>>23204390
Nietzsche is the black pot calling the white kettle black.

>>23175709
Nietzsche's entire philosophy is resentment and seething at his betters. His relationship with Wagner proves this.

>>23149272
It's funny how much Wagner made Nietzsche (and by extension, Nietzscheans) seethe.

lol lmao even
>imagine dying an insane invalid when your entire philosophy is about strength and power

>>23039748
Funny how Nietzche's entire "philosophy" is about being the exact opposite of how the man actually lived his life. Really makes you think.

>>22811820
Wagner of course. Regrettably, Nietzsche has had the greater influence on the educated classes, but that is more due to historical context than the inherent worth of his ideas.

>>22732685
>Mogged by Wagner and copes and seethes about it to his death

>>22697267
No, if anything it's the opposite. Nietzsche and his re-evaluation of values paved the way for subversive post-modern philosophies to spread themselves throughout society, attacking the very foundations of the structure that has allowed them to prosper and flourish, a spiteful rejection of that structure for not being good enough for them. Nietzsche suffered, and instead of reflecting on why he suffered he laid the blame on everyone and everything but himself, something he holds in common with all "woke" ideologues (though I hesitate to call them that, since woke is enormously reductive and overused).

Wagner represents everything that the West stood for; heroism, beauty, preservation of culture, the strength and life held within all Western art, something that Nietzsche could not, or perhaps, refused to understand, likely as a result of his own weaknesses and impotence. The telling difference between the two is that Nietzsche could do nothing but criticise, while Wagner both criticised the poverty of the cultural projects of his day while also appreciating the true greats, and creating his own works of art expressing the most powerful and beautiful sentiments possible, something that Nietzsche could never achieve.

>>22689546
He was a seething retard whose assessments were born from a deep seated resentment at the world and his own impotence. The only people who like him are themselves weak and powerless, the so-called "Ubermensch" would laugh at Nietzsche and his ideas.

>>22611536
>Was it a symptom of his daddy issues?
This is precisely it. Daddy Wagner thought that there was worth in the Christian spirit so Nietzsche sperged out and (literally) got mad.

>>22585495
Read Wagner instead. Nietzsche is just Wagner but schizophrenic, (this is only partially a joke) and Wagner's by far the better and clearer writer. Plus there's only been one very excellent translation, so you can jump right into him.

>>22564103
It's funny how much Nietzsche seethed at Wagner even after his death. Buckbroke him so hard he still couldn't escape his shadow even to the end, and you can still detect Wagner's influence in Nietzsche's later works. Too bad that Wagner was everything Nietzsche wished he could have been.

Wagner was the better man in ever respect. Also ironic that Nietzsche continued to seethe over him even after Wagner was dead. Not very ubermensch like is it?

Should have listened to Wagner.

>>22513903
But anon, I am. Just finished on German Art & Politics and currently reading through The Art-Work of the Future.

>>22506090
Based