/lit/ - Literature

There is no refuting antinatalism. Here's a short summary:
>"HAHA THEN KILL YOURSEL-"
If you weren't born you wouldn't have to drive a knife onto your own throat just to escape this life, you wouldn't have to risk offending some deity that will throw you into hell if it exists for doing so, and you wouldn't need to hear clowns with no empathy telling you to kill yourself as if this somehow is mean to show how life is worth living, or how this makes for a good word to have children in. None of this refutes anti-natalism, and perhaps just strengthens it. Watch the absolute amount of scurrying, ad hominem and goal post moving to deflect this.
>Well but some people are happy.
Yes, some people live average lives. Perhaps a lot of people, even those who suffer, manage to gather enough coping mechanisms to balance it out before a reasonably merciful death (AKA dying swiftly, usually around your 50s to 60s).
But since you were put into this world without anyone asking you, and you don't know if you'll be one of those, making this bet with some other person without having a very good justification is immoral.
>Well I have a very good reason to have children.
Saving your marriage is not a good reason. Needing hands to work on your farm is not a good reason. None of these things should fall on the shoulders of your progeny. Wanting to perpetuate your family or your ego by keeping your last name alive is also not their responsibility. They might want to bear all of these things, but the fact is they are not mandated to bear them. You are making these choices for them. You know how much people rage about circumcision because it happens before the child can consent to it? That is nothing close to the amount of suffering a person goes through in a lifetime, yet this doesn't stop people from birthing others, even when they are wholly unprepared to raise a child.

I don't really need to look at the replies to this post to know the kind of dishonest shit that will ensue because I've seen this a million times. Just have your fucking kids, hope you pass away peacefully and etc like everyone else and try to rationalize your egoist needs to put more people in this planet despite being part of the only species smart enough to choose not to do so.

>suicide is an option breh

What good fiction is there with nihilistic/existentialist and pessimist themes?