/lit/ - Literature

>>8108903
That's why I did not use the world causation, dummy. Also, atheists could be non-conformists, especially those you will meet on /lit, please keep that in mind. As for the conformity, we are currently moving back to faith, believe it or not. Kids are more conservative these days, because their parents were an extreme product of 70s secularity. Their kids will be fedora again, this will probably happen a bunch of times. There is nevertheless a constant rise of atheism for the last 200 years, and that can not be described as vogue, it's based on the underlying scientific revolution we entered with the Renaissance and the decay of Metaphysics. The result is that people who are aware of these developments tend to go for atheism, maybe with exception of Platonist Mathematicians.

>>7506902
1) Not inside of this universe. We are talking outside of our little space-time box here. All bets are on. Plato sure thought that. Lots of mathematicians think it as well.
2) Hard atheists are a religion, I accept that.
3) Creation is still unnecessary, see 1)
4) Pantheists don't make more sense than Christians.
5) Mathematics did not find truth in the classical sense. Most of the frameworks lead to paradoxes, unless you choose simple frameworks like Group theory. I'm not a mathematician though.

>people who don't believe in Mathematical Platonism

Are these people mentally ill?

can someone explain what exactly mathematics has to do with platonism?