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>That's a fair point, and I'd love to live without pleasure if possible, but I'm not confident that can be done.
I don't think a life without all pleasure is desirable, or the point.

If food feels good, it feels good. If being hurt feels bad, it feels bad. Why take extreme measures against them? Are you going to change the color of the sky as well? Accepting them as they is not the same as giving up on them, it's simply seeing them for what they are, not acquiring more superstitious taboos.

>It's true that with a modern, consumerist approach to the world, it's very difficult to live without pleasure, but there's another perspective where it may be feasible.
This is why I'm finding Confucianism to be useful nowadays. If you want to change the world for the better, you first have to be able to first not mess with the rites all the time, and change only what needs to be changed.

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