/lit/ - Literature

Finished reading the Enneads. What religious tradition that is extant and applicable for a Westerner/whitoid to join contains the purest links from the Golden Chain, and bears most resemblance to Platonism?

With no pagan Platonic religion around anymore with no initiation, is existing as a peripheral crypto-pagan heretic in one of the Abrahamic big two the only hope?

Was Plato the only true monkehman intellectual?

>>15537854
>*the only point of view
simple as.

I'm writing a program that will analyze the texts of Plato's dialogues and attempt to predict which period they belong to. I understand that the early dialogues tend towards having more of a focus on ethics and later dialogues tend towards being more metaphysical.

What can be said about Plato's early middle and late period works that categorize them into their categories?
I'm trying to find distinguishing features to look for in my program.

Has he ever reached a plateau?

Going to enroll in a philosophy undergraduate course in about a week. What am i in for?

>i don't say "yes to life"? say yes to this you little syphilitic nerd *puts neechee in wrestling submission*

Is Niesztche the real slave here? Wouldn't Platonic idealism and its practise be the ultimate expression of the superhuman? The end result of attainment of virtue is godhood. Socrates, Pythagoras, Plotinus, Proclus and so on had divine powers. Living a Niesztchean life is just slavery to inarticulate, unknown sources of what your 'will' is. AKA your passions/appetites. You can just look at Neechee's shitty cuck life to see what a loser he was compared to the CHAD PLATONIC BVLL

>plagiarises christianity
how did he get away with it?

I read Phaedo and Gorgias in a high school philosophy class. Phaedo would've been the first piece of philosophy I ever read so I suppose I did start with the Greeks.

Need help with homework, what’s the central argument in Plato’s The Republic book 2?

>got everything wrong
Why even read him?

>dude forms lmao
How WRONG can you be?

>excessive emphasis on athletics produces an excessively uncivilized type, while a purely literary training leaves men indecently soft
You're not indecently soft right /lit/?

Are there dialogues other than the Symposium where Plato talks about sex?

Plato devoted his life to prove the reality of the realm of forms. And failed. Because the only way he could prove reality of the realm of forms was if they showed up in some material way. But the moment they showed up in some material way they’re no longer a part of the realm of forms. They’re part of the realm of this churning sea of empirical sensation we pretend to call reality, according to Plato.

They can’t be proven because proof is reason and evidence in the material realm. And since the forms are anti-rational and anti-empirical they can never be proven.

If you get the metaphysics wrong, the actual nature of reality - and he says there are two, the pathetic material realm and ideal realm of forms - your epistemology is also wrong.

Because now it is not about learning the material world of science, reason, and evidence - it’s now about exploring this ideal in your mind that can never be proven.

Creating a higher realm where non-existence equals existence.

Inventing a higher realm where falsehood equals truth.

Creating a higher realm where the complete absence of evidence and rationality is certain proof that something exists - you’re just taking philosophy and just creating a realm that is the exact opposite of philosophy and claiming you contributed something substantial to the discipline.

>believe in metaphysics, bro
"no"

Any of you Plato scholars, philologists, Straussian/esotericists have any idea to what extent Plato believed or agreed with what it says in the republic about mathematics and its related fields?

>hurr you can't hurt someone because hurting a dog doesn't help dogs

Read Euthyphro, i swear when I read philosophy, it is some of the most confusing shit ever. Why does plato write like that? Like he makes it confusing as fuck on purpose, but somehow at the end of the dialogue, it all makes sense and I feel like an idiot. Why is he like this?

Is there a more evil philosopher than Plato?

Let's have a discussion about my favourite philosopher.

How did you discover Plato?
How did his philosophy influence you?
In your opinion, what are the most convincing arguments for platonism?
Is platonism still important today?

>>12859942

Should I get the complete works of Plato (edited by John M. Cooper) or a smaller selection?

>>12732781
Plato